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Online YukonC

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Pattern Testing advice
« on: January 12, 2021, 11:07:36 PM »
Alright gobblestoppers, I want to do a full out pattern/ammo test with my 835. I want advice on really if I should be doing a bore snake between each round or if there is something else I should be doing to ensure I have a solid test.

Ranges: 20, 40, 60

Testing 3 1/2” Long Beard 6s, Long Beard 5s, Long Beard 4s, Federal TSS 9s, and Apex 9s.

Of course I will report results here as well.

Thanks for anything you can offer!


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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 12:09:20 AM »
Well first I would just deep clean it.
Bore snake between shots is not a bad idea. Either is scrubbing some followed by denatured alcohol.
Your gun will show what it likes from testing with cleaning.                               Clean the choke too.
I would pattern at 40 yards mostly. If all loads meet your criteria at 40, then go close in to see if not to tight for you and also point of impact so close shots won't be missed.

Something else that I would  consider is already having enough ammo on hand.
Everything is being bought up as fast as it goes on the shelf.  I mean everything .
I was in BPS today and you can't get shotgun shells. They even removed the racks it was on as they have been out of most for weeks.
Not a 12 gauge longbeard left. No hevishot, No lead turkey loads, pheasant loads , quail loads , nothing.
They did have Federal TSS and plenty of it. Probably because it is so high priced and just got it in.
They did have some 28 and 16 trap -quail but not much.

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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 07:37:48 AM »
Well first I would just deep clean it.
Bore snake between shots is not a bad idea. Either is scrubbing some followed by denatured alcohol.
Your gun will show what it likes from testing with cleaning.                               Clean the choke too.
I would pattern at 40 yards mostly. If all loads meet your criteria at 40, then go close in to see if not to tight for you and also point of impact so close shots won't be missed.

Something else that I would  consider is already having enough ammo on hand.
Everything is being bought up as fast as it goes on the shelf.  I mean everything .
I was in BPS today and you can't get shotgun shells. They even removed the racks it was on as they have been out of most for weeks.
Not a 12 gauge longbeard left. No hevishot, No lead turkey loads, pheasant loads , quail loads , nothing.
They did have Federal TSS and plenty of it. Probably because it is so high priced and just got it in.
They did have some 28 and 16 trap -quail but not much.

X2 on all the above. I always run the bore snake through after each shot. When I hunt, the bore is totally clean, thus pattern testing with the clean barrel assures the patterns achieved on the range will be the same in the field. Good luck, be safe...
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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 09:06:30 AM »
X3

I hunt with a clean bore so I pattern test with a clean bore. My gun patterns better when squeaky clean vs just bore snaked between shots.

Owner and admin of this site will not appreciate your 60 yd tests, so you might want to keep those to yourself.

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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 11:56:29 AM »
First thing first, have you checked POA/POI on your 835?  My 835 was 4 inches low and to the right so I put a Red dot on her before I even fired the first turkey round through it.  I used dove loads at 12 yards to see what I had.  Not sure what choke you are using but most 835's like .670 to .676 with lead and Hevi's.  TSS will like a little more open choke, from what I've heard, from people that shoot it.  Mine patterns Hevi 7's EXTREMELY well with a .670 Pure Gold.  Polishing the barrel will also improve your patterns as well.

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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 03:39:53 PM »
X3

I hunt with a clean bore so I pattern test with a clean bore. My gun patterns better when squeaky clean vs just bore snaked between shots.

Owner and admin of this site will not appreciate your 60 yd tests, so you might want to keep those to yourself.

The man said he was just shooting 60 yards never said nothing about killing turkeys... slow your roll there keyboard king.

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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 05:22:19 PM »
X3

I hunt with a clean bore so I pattern test with a clean bore. My gun patterns better when squeaky clean vs just bore snaked between shots.

Owner and admin of this site will not appreciate your 60 yd tests, so you might want to keep those to yourself.

The man said he was just shooting 60 yards never said nothing about killing turkeys... slow your roll there keyboard king.
Exactly thank you. I just want to know what happens last 40.... people are so damn judgmental and assume the worst of people. Anyways. Thanks.


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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 05:39:40 PM »
I have a 535, but went through most of this 2 years ago with all 3" shells and a Carlson's ported .660.

Apex 9's were the best and most consistent.  Federal 9's were good, just not "as" good, nor as consistent.  3" Longbeard 6's are fantastic out of my gun and the .660 for a non-TSS load.  I don't use this as my primary gun anymore because it kicks like a mule and I've moved on to a 20ga, but if it were still my primary, I'd be shooting the Longbeard 6's.   I shoot Apex 9's out of my 20's now, but really didn't see the need for it (or price) to be shooting it in my 12ga.  I didn't try 4's, but Longbeard 5's left a lot to be desired out of my gun.  I have not noticed any change in performance in clean vs dirty barrel.


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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2021, 10:44:24 AM »


Owner and admin of this site will not appreciate your 60 yd tests, so you might want to keep those to yourself.

The man said he was just shooting 60 yards never said nothing about killing turkeys... slow your roll there keyboard king.
         No, BandedSpur is quite correct. Any how, i boresnake between every shot to try and keep things consistent when comparing chokes and loads. I have some guns that pattern best after a few fouling shots with a quick boresnake, and one that patterns best with a mirror clean dry bore. Just takes some time and experimentation to find a combination that suits your hunting requirements. Use  a large target, like 3x3 or bigger to be able to see the whole pattern. Temperatures will also effect pattern density and quality. It is fun and enjoyable way to spend an afternoon for sure. Good luck and i hope you can hit on a combo that you like.

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Re: Pattern Testing advice
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2021, 07:53:37 PM »
There are also coyotes to shoot during turkey season.

personally if I ever see a Bigfoot riding a black panther at 60 yards I would want to know how much drop is in my 40 yard pattern. (and I do)