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#31

Turkey Call Classifieds / Re: SS Calls “Oreo” Boxcall

Last post by letinmfly - Today at 09:20:10 AM

Man - I like that little box a lot.

Does that call get shipped with a bag of double stuffed Oreos included?

Buy it and I'll add them. 😉

#32

General Forum / Re: State Bag Limits- Too Many...

Last post by Bowguy - Today at 09:19:59 AM

In my zip code, I have witnessed the turkey population spike up and down twice in the 29 years I've been hunting them. Last season I self imposed a limit of 1 in east TN. Let several go late season after I got off the road. There were several Jakes last spring and this year there is a pile of gobblers. 13 in 1 group. So yeah, I'll happily take the limit this season. Turkey populations vary and can go from pitiful to over run in just a few years.

Agree, very cyclical and compounding population changes can happen quickly with the right/wrong conditions in both good direction and bad.

Nothing wrong with self imposed limits if one believes in it. Personally I don't think the harvest is hardly measurable on the population swings but who really knows.


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Do you believe predators could be part of the problem? Humans are predators. How come areas you hunt, often right near where we are ,always have at least one property, the one with the no hunting signs, saturated with turkey and deer. If its local everything else us the same. 
Might be obvious to think thats where they just got pushed to but if everything else was the same the flocks, herds ought to diminish. They dont.
Something to think about.
Now understand dead is dead no matter how theyre killed. We have to have an affect I'd think

Birds learn where sanctuary properties are, I 100% believe pressure moves them. Back when I run bird dogs I hunted management plots for Pheasants. After about a week a plot that held 30 birds would only provide a few flushes. ODNR marked off safety no hunting zones around these plots. I would send the dogs into them and wait outside the boundary and birds would pour out of those zones, but they would rarely fly towards the legal shooting area. It would be very hard to convince me they don't learn where they are safe.

That is obvious but.... How come those particular flocks, herds arent decimated by predators?. Theyd (predators) all be stupid if they didnt head to the game richest property to hunt.

#33

General Forum / Re: State Bag Limits- Too Many...

Last post by Dtrkyman - Today at 09:15:50 AM

Death by a thousand cuts, there is generally no smoking gun.

I hunt an area that is predator paradise, it's got em thick, but also has piles of turkeys.  Why, the habitat is incredible, build it and they will come!

Many habitat changes go under the radar, I hunted an area where I had access to a pasture for over a decade, I literally never hunted it as it never had birds.

Lost access a few years ago and it has birds in it every stinking day! The neighbor logged right next to it and the pasture has a new renter, it looks no different but things have changed!


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#34

Turkey Guns / Re: 12 GA Versus 20 GA .... ?

Last post by the Ward - Today at 09:08:53 AM

Have you considered a lighter 12 gauge? My Vinci is just under 7 lbs, and my sx4 is about the same weight. Not quite as light as a 20, but not objectionally heavier. Might be a good way to go if you've already invested in a stock of 12 gauge turkey ammo and chokes.

#35

General Forum / Re: TSS prices will go up soon

Last post by CALLM2U - Today at 09:08:51 AM

Cuz an ounce and a half of nines patterns better and doesn't break your jaw from recoil...lol

Ya know I used to say the exact same thing, but it's just not the truth. So much misinformation out there that's been spread throughout the years. Let's break it down!

Everybody wants to shoot 1-5/8oz of shot out of a little 5 pound 20 gauge. Apex usually runs about 1200 FPS. With these specs you are producing 69.2 foot pounds of felt recoil.

In an SP-10 Remington, shooting 2.5oz of lead at 1200 FPS, you produce 71.8 foot pounds of felt recoil. Just 2 more pounds. The difference is negligible.

In my experience, the heavier 10ga has a much gentler recoil than the sharp recoil of a light 20 gauge

Those lightweight sub gauge guns shooting heavy payloads of TSS are recoil machines

I don't think 5lb 20g guns are common.  Most are in that 6-6.5lb range. 

That being said, I have some 1.5oz TSS 12g loads.  They pattern exactly like my 20g but the gun is a pound heavier. 

I don't feel the recoil on either when I'm shooting a longbeard, but I feel the difference on my shoulder carrying it around the mountains days on end.

#36

Turkey Call Classifieds / Re: SS Calls “Oreo” Boxcall

Last post by mountainhunter1 - Today at 09:06:07 AM

Man - I like that little box a lot.

Does that call get shipped with a bag of double stuffed Oreos included?

#37

General Forum / Re: State Bag Limits- Too Many...

Last post by mountainhunter1 - Today at 09:04:23 AM

Habitat improvement will help - but that is probably the hardest needle to move as Turkey's and turkey hunters are such a small segment of the radar for much of our nation's population.

But predators are something that all of us can do something about even if truly fixing habitat is not doable where we live and hunt. I do not have all the answers and don't pretend to. But one thing I do know - a turkey can nest and operate just find even if she has to nest in open hardwoods (and it happens as I walk up on nests in open hardwoods almost yearly), as long as something does not raid her nest. We can all kill more crows, trap more coons, possums and such. It is just a matter of do we care enough to do it.

Just a question - I have long wondered if banning TSS would make a difference in turkey hunting? I don't know and am just asking. But there is a good chance based on what I encounter in the woods on public - that if folks did not have the means to shoot birds down at 60, 70, 80 or even 90 yards - alot of them would not kill a bird and many of them would eventually give up and find something else to do. I personally would be fine being limited to lead shot only as it used to be. But I am not sure if that is the answer and am just asking for your thoughts?

#38

General Forum / Re: TSS prices will go up soon

Last post by Dtrkyman - Today at 09:02:33 AM

The velocity of my 20ga load is only 1090 and I am under 1 5/8th oz. Recoil is a non issue.

The last gun I would ever carry into the turkey woods is an SP 10!  Well maybe second to last

#39

LEARNING TO TURKEY HUNT / Re: "Sitting down to a tu...

Last post by BullTom - Today at 09:01:50 AM

As a right handed shooter, I try to setup on the right side of a tree with my left shoulder pointed where I expect the turkey to show up. This gives me the best chance to swing if he comes right of where I expected.

When I sit down to a turkey, the two most important considerations for me are: 1. Would a turkey want to be here if he wasnt prompted? 2. When I first see him (and he sees me/doesnt see a hen), will he be in range? If the answer to either is no, I adjust, if I can.



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#40

General Forum / Re: What do you plan on adding...

Last post by Burtwill - Today at 09:01:47 AM

Got new NMG pullover (replacement) new mouth calls, getting my gun dipped and cerakote, new Glenda gun sling, woodpecker call, probably buy some green leaf pants, new lacrosse grange (replacement)

Who knows what else lol usually pick up a pot call every year and I think I still need to buy more shells.


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