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Title: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 31, 2020, 10:30:41 PM
So thinking on using Mohawk pre catalyzed lacquer on a pot call kit (Not married to that brand, just one that was suggested to me) I am debating a clear or satin finish. I am wondering how I should prep the inside of the call with it being a spray on lacquer, should I somehow tape the edges, or maybe spray some of the lacquer in a cap and paint it on inside to avoid the edges where I have to put soundboard and striking surface?

Any good brand of sandpaper you could suggest? I was thinking of using 30000 grit after first spray on to scuff off and then respray with final finish as was suggested to me elsewhere. I still have to find a video or something to show me how that is done as I have never worked with lacquer before.

The pot actually goes against something I have said in the past, I have expressed nervousness about laminated pots in the past as I am clumsy and am always afraid I would break them since they are many pieces of wood glued together, but I decided I would liked to give one a shot so I will be putting together a Aromatic Cedar-Walnut-Maple laminate pot with glass soundboard and a purple slate striking surface this time around.

This will also be a experiment piece for me in that in the future I want to make another quartersawn sycamore pot to match the first one I made but with a glass or crystal striking surface and I want to experiment with using a syringe to apply the glue now so I will have a better idea what I am doing in the future when I do that pot. I just gave my dogs her shots and I have saved the syringes from the last two times I gave her her shots so I have 3 syringes to try to figure out what I am doing with.

I will be sanding by hand so I will be taking my time as when I did the last one I could not move my thumb and index finger on my left hand for a few days and I think that may be a benefit to me as I am reading the humidity could cause problems with the spray on lacquer so I may wait until September to do the actually spraying outside when it will be cooler and less humid out.

Thanks for any help given in advance.
Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2020, 05:05:49 PM
Well local places around here are treating me like I am nuts when I ask about 30000 grit sandpaper and Pre Catalyzed Lacquer, anybody suggest some good sandpaper in that grit. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: BigSlam51 on August 03, 2020, 05:31:27 PM
Why not just use 000 steel wool?

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Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2020, 06:03:21 PM
Why not just use 000 steel wool?

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Don't know what I am doing when it comes to this, the sandpaper is what was suggested to me with that lacquer so that is what I have been looking into. Is there a difference in the way it would turn out? I am slowly trying to put together everything I need to finish it, picked up some 220 grit sandpaper for sanding and some tact cloth today, looks like if I do use that lacquer I will have to order though.
Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 10, 2020, 05:40:18 PM
Is there any kind of tool that can be used to set a glass or crystal striking surface or soundboard into place without smearing the glue all over? I do have some hand problems and my attempt with doing it by hand on my last kit call was far from satisfying and I would like to do a crystal over glass eventually.
Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: OldSwamper on August 19, 2020, 07:03:49 AM
I am not a call builder but could you use a small rubber suction cup, like you use to hang something in a window.  Seems it might at least work for glass and crystal, just an idea
Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 19, 2020, 08:32:46 AM
I am not a call builder but could you use a small rubber suction cup, like you use to hang something in a window.  Seems it might at least work for glass and crystal, just an idea
Someone else had also said that and I am going to see if I can find some small ones, I am just not sure how to release them after I put the surface on so that I can set something on top of it to help the glue set. Thank you for the idea.
Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: EZ on August 20, 2020, 06:56:31 AM
30,000 grit??? Not 3,000???

For sanding the pot, drill a hole in the center. Go to any woodworking store and find a mandrel to fit, then spin it in your electric drill.

Don't worry about a laminated pot....it is probably 10x stronger than any single type wood.
Title: Re: Pre Catalyzed Lacquer and Prep, Sandpaper & Tact Clothes
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 20, 2020, 11:56:34 AM
Thanks for the suggestion bud, I do appreciate it. I am done with the sanding and just have to get some stuff in to spray it. I was in pleasantly surprised that my hands did much better than the last time I sanded one by hand

I don't have a drill yet, I don,t have any use for one other than doing this, but I think I will be getting one before I get another kit to build.

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