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Title: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: MattM on June 25, 2020, 10:26:51 PM
I have never been able to use a trumpet or wingbone call. Now I must say that I have only tried using cheap calls,but I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad. Maybe I need to buy a good one and try again one day.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on June 25, 2020, 10:41:16 PM
A couple advantages of buying a good call, 1) much easier to play, 2) can resell for about what you paid if you decide you hate suction calls. That said if you’re wanting to try again I’d give a good Jordan yelper a try, maybe one from Ralph Permar or Anthony Ellis. Not super expensive but banger calls and easy to play.


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Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: howl on June 25, 2020, 10:57:41 PM
Agree Jordan's are easier to start. Good calls make it easier to find tune your playing, but the sound comes from you, not the call. You can figure it out on a coffee stirrer.
https://youtu.be/4qPky6GrCrs
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: EZ on June 26, 2020, 07:13:56 AM
Expense and/or style of call have very little to do with ease of use. It's ALL internals, from the mouthpiece to the end of the call as well as the ability of the user.

One of the easiest Trumpets to run is a Penns Woods Turpin.


If the OP hasn't watched Marlin Watkins Trumpet lesson #1 on YouTube, you need to do so.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: larry9988 on June 26, 2020, 09:51:34 AM
Bought a cheap Penn woods back in the eighties. I have many high dollar trumpets now and have killed just as many with the Penn Woods. Watch videos and practice and you should get good enough to call turkeys. I am not saying that some of my calls are not better than the Penn Woods, just saying it has more to do with the one calling than the call.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Chris O on June 26, 2020, 01:31:52 PM
What others have said you don’t have to spend a fortune to buy a great hunting call. You have gotten some good advice. Practice whenever you can. Enjoy
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: dixiemagnum80 on June 26, 2020, 02:47:13 PM
I read a lot about suction calls before I jumped into them. If I wouldn’t have had the drive to “get over the hump“, I would’ve sold that trumpet months ago. However, I bought a Brian Mero trumpet, wore it around my neck every chance I had, and now feel more than comfortable I could kill turkeys with it. I’ve since purchased a couple others and Im now really enjoying a new dimension of turkey hunting/calling. I wished I would’ve tackled these calls much earlier in life. Don’t get discouraged....it takes A LOT of practice just to get the right sound out of the call.
Chuck
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: davisd9 on June 26, 2020, 02:52:49 PM
The call matters when you are learning to use the call. There are lots of trumpets, I have played about all at Unicoi a few times. Some work better for me and some better for you, but there are a few that work great for anyone. I can run any trumpet, but some are fun to play and some are work to run.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: paboxcall on June 26, 2020, 03:23:41 PM
If you're beginning to learn how to run one, then learn how to run one. Just one.

Spend your first couple years with just that one single trumpet, wingbone or Jordan, until you master air flow. Then branch out to other callmakers. That will shorten your learning curve because as mentioned, they are all very different.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on June 27, 2020, 02:47:46 PM
The call matters when you are learning to use the call. There are lots of trumpets, I have played about all at Unicoi a few times. Some work better for me and some better for you, but there are a few that work great for anyone. I can run any trumpet, but some are fun to play and some are work to run.

I think that's absolutely right that once you get to where you can run one well you can run all of them decently. I'm by no means all that great but I consistently get birds to the gun with one. That said I'm horrible horrible horrible with a mouth call. Kept trying and trying and never could get it dialed in (think my mouth's too big or something :goofball:). Main reason I wanted to be able to use a mouth call was for when they're close. So instead I just use a small segment of river cane under my mask. It's about 2" long. I can cluck and yelp on it real soft. Point being, the earlier comment about being able to use a coffee stirrer once you get to where you can make those sounds is absolutely true. Just keep at it. There's some great videos online. Like EZ said those Marlin Watkins videos are great. I personally really like the Ralph Permar video as well. Watch those over and over and try to play along with them. Get some Lovett Williams recordings and try to play along with those. Just like any other instrument. Just takes time.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Terry on June 27, 2020, 06:18:11 PM
If you're beginning to learn how to run one, then learn how to run one. Just one.

Spend your first couple years with just that one single trumpet, wingbone or Jordan, until you master air flow. Then branch out to other callmakers. That will shorten your learning curve because as mentioned, they are all very different.
The more I play the more I believe this is extremely beneficial even to experienced players.

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Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: boatpaddle on June 27, 2020, 06:19:01 PM
If you're beginning to learn how to run one, then learn how to run one. Just one.

Spend your first couple years with just that one single trumpet, wingbone or Jordan, until you master air flow. Then branch out to other callmakers. That will shorten your learning curve because as mentioned, they are all very different.
Well said....

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Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: paboxcall on June 27, 2020, 06:26:29 PM
If you're beginning to learn how to run one, then learn how to run one. Just one.

Spend your first couple years with just that one single trumpet, wingbone or Jordan, until you master air flow. Then branch out to other callmakers. That will shorten your learning curve because as mentioned, they are all very different.
Well said....

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From the guy who first said it to me many years ago. It was Boatpaddle himself who gave me that advice. Do you want to collect trumpets, or learn to hunt with a trumpet he asked me. Light bulb.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: davisd9 on June 27, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
If you're beginning to learn how to run one, then learn how to run one. Just one.

Spend your first couple years with just that one single trumpet, wingbone or Jordan, until you master air flow. Then branch out to other callmakers. That will shorten your learning curve because as mentioned, they are all very different.
Well said....

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From the guy who first said it to me many years ago. It was Boatpaddle himself who gave me that advice. Do you want to collect trumpets, or learn to hunt with a trumpet he asked me. Light bulb.

Why not both? I stick to three though.

Edit: I misread the post. I agree to stick to one while learning. I will add to make sure you choose a good one to learn on as it will help with the learning curve and not all are the same.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Turkeyman on June 28, 2020, 05:25:28 PM
I've got two trumpets...which I've had for several years. Both are very good...an Austy Bott and a Heglar. I keep telling myself to practice, which I don't do enough. So, since this season ended I've been practicing almost daily...primarily with the Heglar. I'm actually sounding half decent! My tree yelps are quieter and softer than I can make on any other call e.g. a slate or glass call. My goal is to hunt with it come fall, then again in the spring of '01.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: tnanh on June 30, 2020, 12:19:47 AM
Let me preface this by saying I consider myself a bad turkey caller. I call turkeys in sometimes but I dont think I sound very good. I started playing around with trumpets, wingbones and cane yelpers about 6 years ago. Until I started watching videos on youtube I was not confident in playing them. I would practice some and could not get a sound I wanted. I figured out for me, I was trying way too hard which made my trumpet calls way too loud. I watched and listened to Zack Palmer and he
Plays smooth and easy. I tried to sound like him and there was no way. Main advice I can give is listen to the good ones. They play soft and easy and dont try to sound like them just let them teach you to play. Sound like yourself and a lot of frustration will go away. I have called in and seen killed several turkeys the last couple of years that I started with a trumpet and finished with something else. I will finish one some day but happy so far.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on June 30, 2020, 01:21:38 AM
Expense and/or style of call have very little to do with ease of use. It's ALL internals, from the mouthpiece to the end of the call as well as the ability of the user.

One of the easiest Trumpets to run is a Penns Woods Turpin.


If the OP hasn't watched Marlin Watkins Trumpet lesson #1 on YouTube, you need to do so.

First 3 videos on this are Marlins. There are also some others including our own Del Crow. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbF6qMoJbTLzkdmzIrqSSxeTkJKKmXVg8
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: davisd9 on June 30, 2020, 11:39:00 AM
Biggest problems with suction style calls:
-  are people do not put the time needed to become proficient with them plus the time to stay proficient on them.
- when a person asks for feedback on their calling most will not be honest with what they hear or can tell them how to improve.
- people do not want to invest in a good call that will help them learn the call, that does not require you buying the most
  expensive out there. They would rather buy a cheap call saying they will get a better when they learn.
- people are too busy looking for a magic call/mouthpiece rather than learning on a call.
- people try doing too many vocals to soon.  Learn the yelp and build off of it.
- guys recommending calls do not take inconsideration that having mechanics is different than learning mechanics and will just
   recommend their current favorite call rather than a good call to learn on.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: EZ on June 30, 2020, 02:02:28 PM
Biggest problems with suction style calls:
-  are people do not put the time needed to become proficient with them plus the time to stay proficient on them.
- when a person asks for feedback on their calling most will not be honest with what they hear or can tell them how to improve.
- people do not want to invest in a good call that will help them learn the call, that does not require you buying the most
  expensive out there. They would rather buy a cheap call saying they will get a better when they learn.
- people are too busy looking for a magic call/mouthpiece rather than learning on a call.
- people try doing too many vocals to soon.  Learn the yelp and build off of it.
- guys recommending calls do not take inconsideration that having mechanics is different than learning mechanics and will just
   recommend their current favorite call rather than a good call to learn on.

Some very good points.
Regardless of what type of call, Wingbone, Jordan or Trumpet or drink stir, air control is key. If someone asks for my help in learning to call on any type yelper, I won't even let him try to do a "turkey" call. Just make one note and hold it. Keeeeeeeeee………..It will take some time to master holding that single note, but until a person can do it smoothly, softly, mid range, then louder, then back down smooth and soft, there's no sense in moving on. Practicing correctly is really key. That's why I like Marlin's little tutorial on YouTube. He explains it pretty well.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: crow on June 30, 2020, 05:57:00 PM
Let me preface this by saying I consider myself a bad turkey caller. I call turkeys in sometimes but I dont think I sound very good. I started playing around with trumpets, wingbones and cane yelpers about 6 years ago. Until I started watching videos on youtube I was not confident in playing them. I would practice some and could not get a sound I wanted. I figured out for me, I was trying way too hard which made my trumpet calls way too loud. I watched and listened to Zack Palmer and he
Plays smooth and easy. I tried to sound like him and there was no way. Main advice I can give is listen to the good ones. They play soft and easy and dont try to sound like them just let them teach you to play. Sound like yourself and a lot of frustration will go away. I have called in and seen killed several turkeys the last couple of years that I started with a trumpet and finished with something else. I will finish one some day but happy so far.
Isn't Zack Palmer a golfer.




you might be thinking of Tiger Woodwind
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: tnanh on June 30, 2020, 09:55:17 PM
Neither a golfer or turkey. I meant Farmer. Tiger woodwind is probably a democrat.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Chris O on July 02, 2020, 01:31:36 PM
Biggest problems with suction style calls:
-  are people do not put the time needed to become proficient with them plus the time to stay proficient on them.
- when a person asks for feedback on their calling most will not be honest with what they hear or can tell them how to improve.
- people do not want to invest in a good call that will help them learn the call, that does not require you buying the most
  expensive out there. They would rather buy a cheap call saying they will get a better when they learn.
- people are too busy looking for a magic call/mouthpiece rather than learning on a call.
- people try doing too many vocals to soon.  Learn the yelp and build off of it.
- guys recommending calls do not take inconsideration that having mechanics is different than learning mechanics and will just
   recommend their current favorite call rather than a good call to learn on.

Some very good points.
Regardless of what type of call, Wingbone, Jordan or Trumpet or drink stir, air control is key. If someone asks for my help in learning to call on any type yelper, I won't even let him try to do a "turkey" call. Just make one note and hold it. Keeeeeeeeee………..It will take some time to master holding that single note, but until a person can do it smoothly, softly, mid range, then louder, then back down smooth and soft, there's no sense in moving on. Practicing correctly is really key. That's why I like Marlin's little tutorial on YouTube. He explains it pretty well.
Great advice from both above. I tried way too much stuff when I was learning. I was looking for the magical call and there isn’t one. When deciding on a call look at who gets mentioned frequently and pick one. Another thing to consider is wait time. I know what it’s like to want something fairly quick so you can start practicing and that can be agonizing with a year or 2 waiting period. Practice soft I know I tried to suck the guts out of them when I was learning. You start sounding turkey when you lay off the volume.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: EZ on July 02, 2020, 01:50:13 PM
Chris O: "You start sounding turkey when you lay off the volume."

Very good point Chris. If your lips and mouth are getting sore, you're trying way too hard.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: paboxcall on July 02, 2020, 02:49:56 PM
Chris O: "You start sounding turkey when you lay off the volume."

Very good point Chris. If your lips and mouth are getting sore, you're trying way too hard.

Spot on. Many can't comprehend just how far this sound will carry. It projects a long, long way.

Once 'less is more' with air volume is understood, the learning curve begins to shorten. Thanks to boatpaddle's mentoring on this exact point, my confidence running a trumpet grew quickly because I was gaining control of the air flow.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: boatpaddle on July 02, 2020, 05:43:49 PM
A suction call is the only omni directional call, we use...

LESS is more & soft is super...

It never ceases to amaze me, how far the sound carries from a suction call...

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Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: davisd9 on July 02, 2020, 06:42:43 PM
A suction call is the only omni directional call, we use...

LESS is more & soft is super...

It never ceases to amaze me, how far the sound carries from a suction call...

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When you going to text me some pointers?   :)
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Gobbler428 on July 02, 2020, 08:25:20 PM
Adjust the lip stop until you find the "sweet spot" for you.  It will not only sound better but will be easier to run.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 02, 2020, 09:31:39 PM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: davisd9 on July 02, 2020, 10:24:22 PM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

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Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 02, 2020, 10:55:49 PM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

The link does not work
Should work now, here is the link anyway so you do not have to go back up. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: davisd9 on July 02, 2020, 11:06:51 PM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

The link does not work
Should work now, here is the link anyway so you do not have to go back up. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3

Too much air for one thing.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 02, 2020, 11:22:37 PM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

The link does not work
Should work now, here is the link anyway so you do not have to go back up. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3

Too much air for one thing.
Okay, I was barely doing it, much less than I used to use trying to do it anyway. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on July 03, 2020, 07:49:02 AM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

The link does not work
Should work now, here is the link anyway so you do not have to go back up. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3

Too much air for one thing.
Okay, I was barely doing it, much less than I used to use trying to do it anyway. Any other ideas?

That real high end squeal in a couple places I'd say you're probably tightening your lips down too much. I know playing them is different for everybody but for me my lips slightly separate as I cluck and yelp. That slight opening of the mouth is what gives the yelp the second tone. Other than that my mouth stays closed on the mouthpiece but without any real pressure at all. The only time my lips tighten down on the mouthpiece is when I kee. I also almost completely close off the bell when I kee. I'm still not incredible on one but I took to it fairly quickly and honestly I think it's from smoking cigarettes most my life. Drawing air on a trumpet strikes me very similarly to drawing air on a cigarette.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: EZ on July 03, 2020, 08:18:32 AM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

The link does not work
Should work now, here is the link anyway so you do not have to go back up. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3

That's the note I always tell folks to practice (the first note in a yelp). Keep your call choked way down and keep practicing so you can hold that note unwavering, just like holding a single note on any other musical instrument. Once you have that down, you'll be able to kee kee with ease.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 03, 2020, 06:26:22 PM
I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

The link does not work
Should work now, here is the link anyway so you do not have to go back up. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3

Too much air for one thing.
Okay, I was barely doing it, much less than I used to use trying to do it anyway. Any other ideas?

That real high end squeal in a couple places I'd say you're probably tightening your lips down too much. I know playing them is different for everybody but for me my lips slightly separate as I cluck and yelp. That slight opening of the mouth is what gives the yelp the second tone. Other than that my mouth stays closed on the mouthpiece but without any real pressure at all. The only time my lips tighten down on the mouthpiece is when I kee. I also almost completely close off the bell when I kee. I'm still not incredible on one but I took to it fairly quickly and honestly I think it's from smoking cigarettes most my life. Drawing air on a trumpet strikes me very similarly to drawing air on a cigarette.
If I draw lightly with a yelper and do not tighten my lips I get almost zero sound at all. (I do better with a trumpet with my lips looser unless my lips are sweating and then I am pretty close to useless with either instrument) I was trying to get that kee kee whistle at points and I think that may be the highs you refer to. Thank you for the reply.

I have been having a hard time getting the draw down myself. I can yelp but I know it is not the right way so I am trying to learn the right way so I can have more range with a call. This is me with a yelper I have, I have a hard time breathing when drawing myself. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper

The link does not work
Should work now, here is the link anyway so you do not have to go back up. https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/trying-to-draw-air-on-a-yelper/s-fygomfUE7t3

That's the note I always tell folks to practice (the first note in a yelp). Keep your call choked way down and keep practicing so you can hold that note unwavering, just like holding a single note on any other musical instrument. Once you have that down, you'll be able to kee kee with ease.
Thanks bud, I have been trying to get that kee kee whistle going and that quaver that Marlin refers to in his first video. I do think I am better than I was when we talked last year around this time, my hardest thing is holding a note for any time, I have a hard time breathing though my nose, especially exhaling.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Terry on July 03, 2020, 08:29:53 PM
Try inhaling from your diaphragm if you are having trouble getting air. Also, experiment with different lipstop adjustments.

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Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 03, 2020, 09:45:12 PM
Try inhaling from your diaphragm if you are having trouble getting air. Also, experiment with different lipstop adjustments.

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I am not trying to be a wiseguy, but how the heck do you inhale from your diaphragm? I try all kinds of lipstop adjustments, I have also tried tilting the call in my mouth at different angles, I have tried different lip pressures as well. I have tried different material lipstops on the call I made that recording with. At this point I am kinda feeling like I am highjacking this thread, why don't you inbox me with your reply please.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: davisd9 on July 03, 2020, 09:48:27 PM
Try inhaling from your diaphragm if you are having trouble getting air. Also, experiment with different lipstop adjustments.

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I am not trying to be a wiseguy, but how the heck do you inhale from your diaphragm? I try all kinds of lipstop adjustments, I have also tried tilting the call in my mouth at different angles, I have tried different lip pressures as well. I have tried different material lipstops on the call I made that recording with. At this point I am kinda feeling like I am highjacking this thread, why don't you inbox me with your reply please.

That is very good information. Pull from the diaphragm
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: howl on July 03, 2020, 09:50:05 PM
You're inhaling with your diaphragm when you breathe drrply. Its the key to even, well controlled air flow with any wind instruments or singing.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: paboxcall on July 03, 2020, 10:47:53 PM
Try inhaling from your diaphragm if you are having trouble getting air. Also, experiment with different lipstop adjustments.

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I am not trying to be a wiseguy, but how the heck do you inhale from your diaphragm? I try all kinds of lipstop adjustments, I have also tried tilting the call in my mouth at different angles, I have tried different lip pressures as well. I have tried different material lipstops on the call I made that recording with. At this point I am kinda feeling like I am highjacking this thread, why don't you inbox me with your reply please.

Have you tried any different spots on the lips? I place the call just off center of my lips. Center or off to the side, and I can't run it as well.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 03, 2020, 11:40:44 PM
Try inhaling from your diaphragm if you are having trouble getting air. Also, experiment with different lipstop adjustments.

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I am not trying to be a wiseguy, but how the heck do you inhale from your diaphragm? I try all kinds of lipstop adjustments, I have also tried tilting the call in my mouth at different angles, I have tried different lip pressures as well. I have tried different material lipstops on the call I made that recording with. At this point I am kinda feeling like I am highjacking this thread, why don't you inbox me with your reply please.

Have you tried any different spots on the lips? I place the call just off center of my lips. Center or off to the side, and I can't run it as well.
Yes, sure have, I think that may be a major part of my problem, none of the air operated calls feel comfortable no matter where I place them, that is something I have been trying to make myself ignore.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: nitro on July 04, 2020, 02:12:36 PM


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At this point I am kinda feeling like I am highjacking this thread, why don't you inbox me with your reply please.
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You hijack or derail dang near every thread on this site Sir - posts- a -lot.

I swear , I can’t open a topic that you haven’t commented on. It is past too much for me.
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: Sir-diealot on July 04, 2020, 06:07:06 PM


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At this point I am kinda feeling like I am highjacking this thread, why don't you inbox me with your reply please.
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You hijack or derail dang near every thread on this site Sir - posts- a -lot.

I swear , I can’t open a topic that you haven’t commented on. It is past too much for me.
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So I take it you don't want a birthday card?
Title: Re: Trouble with trumpet and wingbone calls
Post by: wchadw on July 30, 2020, 03:52:36 PM
this video helped me more than any of the other instructional vids for some reason.

https://youtu.be/HYCwEsoZUts