I would love to get the forums thoughts on pot call vs box call. Effectiveness against each other, playability, and which Type of call produces more variations. I have boxes, but primarily I use pots and push pins. I am probably missing something in my Arsenal regarding boxes...Thanks....
Two dif calls. Dif soundimg often partially because of the way they're played as well. Even though pot calls vary amongst themselves I believe a box sounds or can sound pretty dif. I'd include a long box or ten, short boxes and def scratchers into the mix.
Tom I believe you're near me. If you'd like to try some short, long n scratch boxes you'd be more than welcome to try running mine so you can see yourself
Wow, yes maybe we can get together one day and go over some call stuff. I have some great boxes, but rarely carry them. I love push pins, pots, and I use mouth calls. Scratch boxes intrigue me too....
Scratch boxes might become your favorite believe it or not
I'm still discovering pot calls, but my impression is box calls seem less finicky. Not as affected by environmental factors like temps or humidity (at least not something that cannot be fixed—just re-chalk), except for getting wet, obviously.
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Yes, my very first call when I started hunting in 1982 was a Lynch 102 box, I still have it. Great call. I do use boxes, but not as much since the pot calls have gotten so advanced with different surface and soundboard options and exotic woods. Pots and boxes are both necessary in our turkey Arsenal. Great info, thx... I know a good box in the right hands will close the deal on the toughest gobblers....
Easiest way i can explain it , turkeys in the box and hens on the surface of pot calls.
Love it....
Not much of a box call hunter. Slate or aluminum pot is my go to when hunting. Always has been this way. I carry a long or short box now and then that seldom makes it out of my vest. Box that I will use a lot is a scratch box.
Same here, when I carry a box, it's a Cody Southern Belle. It sounds good, plays soft. I am going to look into scratch boxes, I here good things about them.....thx....
There have been many turkeys that lost their lives in my hunting career because the only thing they would respond to was a box call. Learned this once I started traveling to places like Kansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska. My response may seem a little self serving but these experiences in the above states are what made me a believer in the box and was the impetus to eventually start making my own.
I hunt a lot of public. I have a box from Mike at Spring Creek and another from Al & Josh at SS. Both calls worked to perfection his year. Great calls used in areas where most guys "leave the box in their vest" can be deadly, IMO. This was my 1st year really using a box over pot calls in my friction attack and was really impressed with the ability and ease to get soft and seductive tree yelps to loud and sassy talk while maintaining "turkey". Easy to get multiple hen sounds by placing pressure on call sides in different spots. I'm becoming a "leave my pots in the vest" type of hunter.
I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
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I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
I am thinking about getting a one sider Mike, is there much of a difference between one and a regular shortbox?
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I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
Me too. A long box, a mini boat, and a short box. The two or three pots usually stay in the vest and rarely come out unless birds are super quiet and I'm trolling. Short boxes I will rotate - either Spring Creek, Rohm Brothers, or a recently acquired Watkins fiddle. Also travel with an all weather Woods Wise short box too for rain days.
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I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
I am thinking about getting a one sider Mike, is there much of a difference between one and a regular shortbox?
Yea you're limited to what you can do
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I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
I am thinking about getting a one sider Mike, is there much of a difference between one and a regular shortbox?
Yea you're limited to what you can do
I guess by your reply and what you carry to the woods Bowguy no benefits with a one sider?
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I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
I am thinking about getting a one sider Mike, is there much of a difference between one and a regular shortbox?
Yea you're limited to what you can do
unless you want to gobble you are not limited what so ever
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I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
I am thinking about getting a one sider Mike, is there much of a difference between one and a regular shortbox?
Yea you're limited to what you can do
I guess by your reply and what you carry to the woods Bowguy no benefits with a one sider?
I don't even own one sliders anymore.
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I always have 2-3 boxes w me & use them mostly. Usually s long box, hen box & a 1 sider. carry 2 pots but usually dont use them, Mike
I am thinking about getting a one sider Mike, is there much of a difference between one and a regular shortbox?
Yea you're limited to what you can do
unless you want to gobble you are not limited what so ever
Not sure why you say that. The second side normally has a dif sound. That'd double the call worth right there in my eyes. Now add gobbling. Its more worthwhile imo to carry a reg call because of this variability. Detracting nothing from anything you do or say.
I generally only play one side anyway, rarely play the left side. So for me ts no big deal to have a one side. Have always just liked the simplicity. Mike
I have a one sider that I would not sell you for a thousand bucks. It is absolutely a turkey killing instrument. I know if I could carry just one call , it would be tougg to pick between a henbox and a trumpet. Those 2 type calls in my arsenal are second to none. They flat kill birds consistantly. It could very well be that I use them alot more than other calls.
In my opinion, you can take that for what it's worth, a one sider is a call that's a little misunderstood. Get a good one and, like previous poster said, turkey killing machine. They're generally easy to play and they produce great quality sound. Counterintuitively, they do have some versatility. You can pressure the sound board and get varied sounds as well as pressure the non soundboard side and get get other sounds.
They ARE limited regarding gobbling but as far as hen yelping, you can manipulate them so they act similar to a two sider. You won't get the drastic difference you'll get with a two sided call but there will be enough difference to sound like two different hens.
If you want the gobbler aspect, you can make gobbler yelps on them effectively, so there's that.
I have a soft spot for them since that's one of the calls I started with and they seem kind of old school and, well, just different and cool.
That, and they can be killers...
Thanks guys appreciate the replies, at some point this season going to try a one sider probly from Tony Quarino.
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Thanks guys appreciate the replies, at some point this season going to try a one sider probly from Tony Quarino.
Good luck bud. Wasn't trying to sway you away from any call just giving an opinion, if you have a soft spot such as six bird says or simply just wanna use one go for it. Hope it suits ya. I'll be honest I almost never use a short box either but long boxes and scratchers are def something I carry n use. To each his own.
Appreciate your time and opinion Bowguy, I like the short boxes, can't play a long box well at this point but I am really starting to get into scratch boxes, they are fun to play.
Great info from all. Thank you....
YES,,get a one sider from Tony Quarino they are an incredible value for the money
I use pot calls a lot and mouth calls sometimes but every season without fail I end up killing a Gobbler with a box call. Nothing fancy but an old Quaker boy with a butternut lid. I cannot count how many Gobblers have answered that box when nothing else worked. When I get one Gobbling I don't change calls if he answered a pot or mouth call or box that's what I finish with. Never had an issue with movement etc. with box or pot call I quit calling when he's close and wait for him to come find me.
Box calls are not just for beginners and a good one has the hen built right in.
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There have been many turkeys that lost their lives in my hunting career because the only thing they would respond to was a box call. Learned this once I started traveling to places like Kansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska. My response may seem a little self serving but these experiences in the above states are what made me a believer in the box and was the impetus to eventually start making my own.
I was a diaphragm user coming from WI my whole life. When i hunted NE I would have never tagged a bird without my box call. Could have thrown out every other call i have.
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I love collecting boxes, but I'm horrible at playing them. I've always been a pot call nut. I usually carry four pots and five strikers. I think the pot is more forgiving and never makes a racket unintended. With boxes I find I wind up making sounds I didn't mean to make, sometimes just toting them around (again, I'm no good with a box). That said, late season after green up and when you're trying to cover distance, nothing beats the volume on a good box. You can reach out and touch them a half mile off or more. Really helpful in the mountains where I live. There's also more variance in sound, especially if you go to a long box. There's a dozen or more turkeys in a call like that. Maybe one day I'll get to where I can play one half decent but for now I'll stick to toting pots and trumpets. I'm just better at playing them and have more confidence in them.
I carry and use them all.....but I believe the box call is the most versatile of all the type of calls and I lean on them and the diaphragm most of all. Love to collect box calls, but as most, I tend to carry the same two or three in the vest year after year.
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