I just got a phone call and I found this gun,for a really good price brand new.I have read very good reviews on the 20 gauge version of this gun but not a lot on the 12 gauge.I was all set on a pump but for the little bit extra this gun would cost I am leaning towards buying this gun.I do plan on shooting tss and longbeards for ammo.
I have looked for this exact gun for years with no luck and it is the last one in stock and $150.00 off regular price.I have lots of pumps and am looking for a new gun to take on trips to the usa the next decade for turkeys.
How do you guys like yours?
I thought it over for a few hours and read up a bit and then purchased it and two boxes of Federal Tss #7 3". This was a 40th birthday gift for myself this year,I wanted to add either a semi 20 gauge or a new 12 gauge turkey gun to the collection and I could not be happier to get this gun and for the price I paid makes me even more excited.
I also have a .675 Undertaker hd choke that I will be using this year,I have for ammo that I can test through it...
-2 boxes of Remington Nitro turkey 2 3/4" #5 1 1/2 oz
-1 box of Winchester super x 2 3/4" #6 1 1/2 oz
-1 box of Winchester long beard xr 3" #4 1 3/4 oz
-1 box of Winchester long beard xr 3" #6 1 3/4 oz
-3 Winchester supreme 3" #5's shells
-2 Federal premium 3" #5's 2 oz shells
I plan on running a box or two of light loads through the gun and then spend a solid day when it gets nice testing everything listed.I will probably not do a lot of testing with the Tss shells as It is 57.99 a box of 5,plus tax but I definitely will pattern it at my max distance(40 yards wink wink) and at close range.I plan on loading one Tss shell and then two long beards,I will pick up a box of long beard #5's to test as well to see which long beard shell shoots the best.
I should have gun by March 9 or 10th as It is shipping from 4 hours away and that's the date it says It will arrive.
Best of luck with it.... :gobble:
My gun arrived just after lunch today, I was a little nervous as I have never shouldered the sa 459 so I was buying blind but I am super impressed with the fit for me,and everything else so far.I cleaned the gunk and oil off it,put the piston on and put gun together and then added the picatinny rail and then tested both my trs 25 from Bushnell and my trophy xlt with the circle plex from Bushnell.I ended up sticking with the scope as It just feels perfect.I then added my new sling and screwed in the undertaker hd choke, I am hoping I can get out in the next few weekends and fire some shells and get it sighted in and patterned.
It will make a great gun to the collection if I can get it patterned well,It very much is built to kill gobblers.I am impressed with it, I am so tempted to start buying chokes but have decided to shoot the two I have before I buy another,just to buy one.
I will be shooting tss #7 3" from Federal out of this gun,that was my plan before I decided on a new 12 gauge,and backup with longbeards.
I have sent out an email trying to locate some camo scope rings and I may change my black rings out before I sight in and pattern the gun.
It will never take the #1 spot away from my Browning bps 12 gauge nwtf 3.5" gun but It is going in the woods and I may even use it for double duty and hunt whitetail and or coyotes as well with it.
I went and picked up my tss for this gun today and I am going to purchase the Carlson Tss Heavyweight choke in .640 before I ever shoot the gun.It wont be for a few weeks but a box is 57.99 plus tax for 5 shells,I picked up 2 to start. Im not cheap but I am not messing around with an average choke,Im going straight for one that is built for the tss shells.
I love the feel of this gun,one of my favorites ever.I hope it shoots as nice as it feels while shouldering it.
Sweet looking. Them black rings look fine they add character. Good luck!
I went and purchased the .640 tss choke today as I was up around the place.It will be a few weeks yet before I get out to pattern the new setup.Hurry up April 25th.
I took the new gun out today and did some dialing it in and patterning.I started with a low brass 2 3/4 #6 and yup,It jammed and would not eject,I knew I was chancing it seeing as I had the high brass ring in..I got the shell out and then went straight to 3" longbeard #6's at 20 yards and got it dialed in and then stepped back to 40 yards and fired one tss #7 3" and a longbeard 3" #6 and was happy.I didn't take any pics,keep any targets or count pellets as I am going to take it back out and shoot again before season starts.I never shot tss from a 12 gauge before and I can't say I would buy more as I prefer the longbeard shells for a 12 gauge.I need a new box of longbeard 6's.
The gun handles extremely well,shot well,cycled perfect and I can not wait to carry it in the woods,It has a little kick but not going to be noticeable in a hunting situation.
Best of luck...
I picked up a few boxes of 3" lb #6's this morning.I like the gun with the scope as it just shoulders perfect but I am thinking about buying a Bushnell first strike to try,I just bought a vortex venom for another gun and have lots of other options but I believe I am willing to test the Bushnell out for this gun.
Good Luck with the new gun! Happy huntin'.
I just ordered a trulock .660 for this gun,I am going tomorrow to shoot and pattern a handful of guns and still going to take this to try with the .675 undertaker choke but I will also set it up when the trulock gets here.I was not impressed with the .640 heavyweight tss from Carlson at all with tss #7 at 40 yards,waste of money buying it.
I am going to hold off patterning my guns today as its 50 mph winds and -9,I will go next Saturday and Sunday as I am waiting on a few new red dot/reflex sights and a choke.
I am interested in maybe getting some hevi shot to test and pattern from this gun as well.
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on April 11, 2020, 07:47:33 AM
I am going to hold off patterning my guns today as its 50 mph winds and -9,I will go next Saturday and Sunday as I am waiting on a few new red dot/reflex sights and a choke.
I am interested in maybe getting some hevi shot to test and pattern from this gun as well.
There are ALOT better choices for TSS loads other than Federal or Hevi-18 for that matter...as in Foxtrot ammo
Burgess Creek ( Great guys to deal with and great prices)
Pendleton ammo
Nitro
Apex
Also check out Gamechanger TSS on Facebook (Josh Emory)
I believe you owe it to yourself to check out these companies before you buy ammo costing more and NOT hand loaded one at a time. Good luck and keep us posted!!! BTW Indian Creek choke tubes are worth the look as well. And I do believe Midway USA has a sale on them now.
Quote from: BINK McCARTY on April 11, 2020, 10:21:39 PM
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on April 11, 2020, 07:47:33 AM
I am going to hold off patterning my guns today as its 50 mph winds and -9,I will go next Saturday and Sunday as I am waiting on a few new red dot/reflex sights and a choke.
I am interested in maybe getting some hevi shot to test and pattern from this gun as well.
There are ALOT better choices for TSS loads other than Federal or Hevi-18 for that matter...as in Foxtrot ammo
Burgess Creek ( Great guys to deal with and great prices)
Pendleton ammo
Nitro
Apex
Also check out Gamechanger TSS on Facebook (Josh Emory)
I believe you owe it to yourself to check out these companies before you buy ammo costing more and NOT hand loaded one at a time. Good luck and keep us posted!!! BTW Indian Creek choke tubes are worth the look as well. And I do believe Midway USA has a sale on them now.
No Thanks.I am In ontario. It won't work.I own ic chokes.Yes they are excellent.I am not buying one for this gun though.
I shot and patterned the gun with a trs 25 and the .675 undertaker and #6 longbeards,devastating to 40 yards and even what we dont speak of,I tried the tss as well and was not impressed.
I am waiting on the .660 trulock to arrive and will test a shell of the tss #7 from it at distance,40 yards and the long beards but I am super happy with the lb #6's and the .675 undertaker setup.Gun is awesome handling to say the least and patterns very very well with lead out to farther distances than I will ever shoot a tom at.
The trulock .660 arrived yesterday,screwed it in and am going to pattern 4 guns tomorrow. I am hoping that this choke was worth buying as the others don't overly impress me with tss #7 and I purchased this gun to shoot 3" tss from as I already had others to shoot lead but I really do like the gun and I am glad I bought it.I just don't want to buy more and more chokes chasing the dragon.
I am not buying more #7 tss for this gun,It shoots longbeard better with all 4 chokes I tested.I put the undertaker hd .675 back in and will hunt with #6 lb 3" and be more than happy.That is my first time buying 12 gauge tss shells and I don't see myself buying more.
I found the shell that I will be shooting through this gun going forward.Kent 3" tk7,.675 hd ported undertaker choke.40 yards
I ended my season today for a second straight season by tagging out on the last day.I shot him at 113 pm today at 16 yards.He was only 18.6 lbs,9" beard and 1" spurs.He had 3 missing tail feathers and looked like he has been fighting a lot.We took two toms from this property as there was 13 toms,8 jakes and 8 hens.It was a great last week to the season watching all 13 toms together running around fighting and chasing each other on numerous mornings.I shot him with a 3" kent tk7 through the .675 hd undertaker choke.These shells pattern extremely well out to extreme ranges that I would never consider shooting a bird at,I was shocked actually.
Great job, congrats on a great season......
I just purchased this same gun for my father about 20 minutes ago for half of what I paid for mine. I am meeting up with the guy this Friday to pick it up, comes with both pistons,stock turkey choke,stock rail and a jellyhead choke,handful of shells through it. It took a phone call and that's it to convince him he needs another gun!. :drool:
The triggers on my 12 gauge and 20 gauge are fine,no issues,normal for a shotgun trigger.
My father brought his new sa 459 12 gauge that I located for him today to pattern, so the gun patterns 3" Long beard #6's with the jellyhead max outstanding at 40 yards, and maybe a little further. however, this is now the worst trigger I have ever felt, It beats my winchester sxp longbeard 20 gauge I purchased a few years ago. It is horrible, he is dropping it off to have it worked this week, will have it back in a few days. As for the pattern, I was impressed, I shot the gun once at 40 yards and the trigger sucks,but I killed the turkey because I destroyed the target.
I am going to set this gun up for him to shoot a red dot,the fiber optics that the guy left on it look like they are the size of beach balls and my dad isn't totally blind yet. Those fiber optics are for brail guys.
I had the gun back in 2.5 days, trigger was polished and set at 3.8 lbs, the new gunsmith I found through work, he was a part time worker for same company in the next small town north of mine, is the best I have ever dealt with. His work is top end, his prices are more than fair and his time frame is ,well oustanding, I think 4 days was the longest he has had one of our firearms. My father also had him add another hole to receiver so he could mount an ace in the hole picatinny rail with peep sight already installed as It was one he had at home. It is outstanding on the gun.
He said the machining was rough on the trigger, and a little heavy, it was gritty and heavy, its smooth and crisp now. 110% difference,night and day.