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Title: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 13, 2020, 12:56:52 AM
I’m planning a trip to hunt Alabama for a week starting March 28th and think I have decided on Choccolocco. I’m 23 years old and in pretty good shape so the hilly terrain doesn’t worry me much. I’m wondering what kind of hunting pressure to expect since that is opening day for the wma and what kind of activity to expect from the birds a couple weeks after the state starting date. Any info is greatly appreciated!


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Hook hanger on February 13, 2020, 02:21:55 AM
Fun area! The terrain is your friend setting you away from any other hunters. I had a blast or should I say a few blasts when I hunted there.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: catman529 on February 13, 2020, 07:15:06 AM
Lots of pressure, it’s pretty well known. But there are a few mountains and a lot of land to roam
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 13, 2020, 10:57:14 AM
Thanks for the responses guys. I’ve spent a lot of time on onX and have picked out a few options for starting places to let me get away from other hunters


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: deerhunt1988 on February 13, 2020, 11:23:53 AM
Plenty of other hunters and expect even more than normal this spring thanks to social media. Good news is lots of jakes in that region last spring. That can be gathered just from YouTube videos.

Edit: Forgot to mention...Its one of the few places I've ever been beaten to a gate on multiple occasions. Last spring, Sunday of opening weekend, my first choice had a truck pull up at it about 3:45AM. Guess they had heard the bird I heard in there the day before. My second choice had someone at it at 4:00AM. Its not near as bad during the week though. Tons of room to roam without interference then.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: ddturkeyhunter on February 13, 2020, 12:03:41 PM
Thanks for the responses guys. I’ve spent a lot of time on onX and have picked out a few options for starting places to let me get away from other hunters


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I hope so, hope you didn't pick my spot. No just kidding but surely can happen what looks good to you looks good to someone else that uses OnX. I myself now use OnX for my pre scouting along with google Earth. But a lot of good honey holes have been lost to OnX instead of boots on the ground. I learned that in 2018 when a Georgia hunter found my little honey hole while hunting in Oklahoma on OnX. A spot we found by luck after seeing a hen in the middle of no where in 2011, and may miles later found the hole. So was dissipointed to see someone else find it so easy on OnX, but he sure knew how to use it. We both scored birds, its a honey hole but only to who gets there first. So It comes down to how far you are traveling in, and if your competition is a decent hunter. So good luck and it is AWAYS fun and interesting to hunt a new area and forsure a new state.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: silent tom on February 13, 2020, 12:24:04 PM
Pressure is as intense as anywhere you will ever see.
All these youtube channels have for some unknown reason, gotten their rocks off by exploiting this area.

Why Pinhoti, THP, Catman, Shane Simpson, and Claycomb Outdoors have done this is beyond me and will forever be.

I expect this year to be an absolute and utter mad house because of the above people.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 13, 2020, 12:49:31 PM
What about the daily permits? I’m assuming you just have to go to one of the kiosks and pick one up each morning before hunting? Any certain time they are put out for the day?


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Dirtyfowl on February 13, 2020, 12:51:47 PM
Pressure is as intense as anywhere you will ever see.
All these youtube channels have for some unknown reason, gotten their rocks off by exploiting this area.

Why Pinhoti, THP, Catman, Shane Simpson, and Claycomb Outdoors have done this is beyond me and will forever be.

I expect this year to be an absolute and utter mad house because of the above people.


Somebody getting their feelings HURT?
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Delmar ODonnell on February 13, 2020, 12:56:55 PM
Pressure is as intense as anywhere you will ever see.
All these youtube channels have for some unknown reason, gotten their rocks off by exploiting this area.

Why Pinhoti, THP, Catman, Shane Simpson, and Claycomb Outdoors have done this is beyond me and will forever be.

I expect this year to be an absolute and utter mad house because of the above people.

I've watched almost all the videos from the above channels, and have not heard them name drop an area once. They've talked about how they try to protect local residents by not name dropping specific names, so saying they got their rocks off by exploiting an area is ridiculous. I had no idea where they were hunting till your post, which will ironically lead to more people knowing where they hunted.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: silent tom on February 13, 2020, 01:06:48 PM
I guess if getting pissed off about an area/resource being exploited equates to hurt feelings- then yes they are. 

As far as anyone not knowing where these guys are, you must not have taken much time to figure it out. 
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: RutnNStrutn on February 13, 2020, 01:32:20 PM
For a guy who lives in Osceola country in FLA, this post is pretty comical.  :TooFunny:
Everybody and their brother who wants a Grand Slam has to come to FLA. Social media, turkey forums, magazines and TV shows give out names of WMA's to go to, locations within those WMA's, and tutorials on how to work the permit process. It takes 2 to 4 years for a resident to get drawn for a good WMA hunt in FLA. Outfitters and land developers have made private land hunting out of reach for the average Joe. You better bring a deep wallet if you want to hunt private land.
So to hear guys griping about one WMA in a state full of Easterns, when Easterns are the most numerous turkeys that can be taken in many states, is pretty amusing. ;D
Good luck guys, hope you all do well this spring. :icon_thumright: :fud: :turkey:
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Dirtyfowl on February 13, 2020, 02:03:41 PM
I guess if getting pissed off about an area/resource being exploited equates to hurt feelings- then yes they are. 

As far as anyone not knowing where these guys are, you must not have taken much time to figure it out.

     
  If you worry more about yourself and less on other people you would probably enjoy your spring mornings much more!
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: silent tom on February 13, 2020, 02:34:33 PM
I promise you I enjoy them as much as anyone, regardless of what anyone else is doing.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: turkey_slayer on February 13, 2020, 02:37:21 PM
When I was there opening week a few years ago pressure was insane.  It was like they detoured interstate traffic thru that area and 90% were out of state.  Terrain is more about perspective.  It was easy compared to where I hunt but a flat lander might struggle.  Plenty of land to get away from though and watch out for rattlesnakes. Good luck
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: LaLongbeard on February 13, 2020, 03:27:44 PM
The YouTubers don’t have too actually say the name. Doesn’t take a detective to figure it out. THP was borrowing the Woodhaven owners camper. Look at a map how many camping areas are within a decent drive of the Woodhaven shop? You can bet he didn’t pull his camper 6 hours away to loan it to the THP.The rest of those mentioned hunted the same place...duh.
    I knew were they were because I’ve been there before but anybody else could easily figure it out. Their hen shooting has stopped me from watching any of them now ,but when Dave mentioned the Jake population last year I knew it would be a mess this year. Alabama has some of the most dedicated Turkey hunters anyway add a few hundred OOS hunters and it gets crazy.   
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 13, 2020, 03:27:54 PM
I buy that onX has change public land hunting pressure 100x more then saying YouTuber ruined a spot they didn't actually mention.

Just the few guys named here air hunts in pretty much every huntable turkey state in the last two seasons so if the "viewers" took the time to decrypt the exact location of every single one of their hunts and flocked to those locations only wouldn't that just re spread us all over the country. Not to mention if every non resident only hunted the locations shown on their videos wouldn't that leave the rest of the states public seeing reduced pressure.



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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: LaLongbeard on February 13, 2020, 03:38:22 PM
When Alabama opens how many other states are open to hunt? Florida  is always tough, Mississippi is not much better. If you had three choices of which state to hunt one state was reported to have a bumper crop of Jakes last season and your going to hunt public land, were would you go? 
    I don’t buy OnX adding to the pressure. Maybe if you never knew how to read a topo  map and ONX has helped you not be scared to walk out of site of the truck, but if you’ve been using a map it makes little difference except now you carry one phone instead of 2-3 maps per state.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: deerhunt1988 on February 13, 2020, 03:52:45 PM
When Alabama opens how many other states are open to hunt? Florida  is always tough, Mississippi is not much better. If you had three choices of which state to hunt one state was reported to have a bumper crop of Jakes last season and your going to hunt public land, were would you go? 
    I don’t buy OnX adding to the pressure. Maybe if you never knew how to read a topo  map and ONX has helped you not be scared to walk out of site of the truck, but if you’ve been using a map it makes little difference except now you carry one phone instead of 2-3 maps per state.

Quoted for truth...

Those of us that have been around the traveling turkey game long enough have watched many accounts of loose lips leading to influxes of hunting pressure that hurt hunt quality... Time and time again... The first significant go-round (in recent times) started with hunting forums back in the late 2000s. Boy, that really put a whomper on Kansas hunt quality bout the early 2010s! One of my favorite case-studies is the young guy on TNdeer.com forum who started killing turkeys like crazy on public land when he was a newbie. I actually spent a whole 10 minutes reading his post history and it was easy to figure out where he hunted. Heck, he told folks himself. I made the trip to TN to take advantage of the goodness before the pressure got too bad. Last time I went I felt like I needed a Kevlar vest.

But I digress... With social media nowdays, the impacts are even much greater...
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 13, 2020, 04:22:39 PM
Sooooo you’re saying I should expect some pressure then? Maybe Oakmulgee would be better?


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 13, 2020, 05:30:49 PM
Sooooo you’re saying I should expect some pressure then? Maybe Oakmulgee would be better?


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In all honesty, let the pinhoti cult stare at their phones and go as deep as they want. Some of the best hunting on that place, as well as most other NF Land, is within 400 yards of the main Forest Roads. Welcome to the Big Leagues and good luck.
I was just kidding I’m not new to the public land game. I gotta say those public land Alabama birds are probably as tough as any I’ve chased


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: cuttinAR on February 13, 2020, 09:51:54 PM
Sooooo you’re saying I should expect some pressure then? Maybe Oakmulgee would be better?


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In all honesty, let the pinhoti cult stare at their phones and go as deep as they want. Some of the best hunting on that place, as well as most other NF Land, is within 400 yards of the main Forest Roads. Welcome to the Big Leagues and good luck.

Haha.  Big leagues is right.  Just do everything you see on the YouTube and you’ll be tagged out in no time!!
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: kytrkyhntr on February 13, 2020, 11:11:55 PM
When Alabama opens how many other states are open to hunt? Florida  is always tough, Mississippi is not much better. If you had three choices of which state to hunt one state was reported to have a bumper crop of Jakes last season and your going to hunt public land, were would you go? 
    I don’t buy OnX adding to the pressure. Maybe if you never knew how to read a topo  map and ONX has helped you not be scared to walk out of site of the truck, but if you’ve been using a map it makes little difference except now you carry one phone instead of 2-3 maps per state.

I agree with this^
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: dirt road ninja on February 14, 2020, 05:49:58 AM
If y’all think it’s messed up turkey hunting, it’s really screwed up saltwater fishing in SE LA.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: KentuckyLB on February 14, 2020, 07:49:04 AM
What Dave Owens and the rest are doing I do not see them stating nothing about where they hunt at..I applaud them for respecting the locals and keeping it quiet.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: kytrkyhntr on February 14, 2020, 10:40:00 AM



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[/quote]In all honesty, let the pinhoti cult stare at their phones and go as deep as they want. Some of the best hunting on that place, as well as most other NF Land, is within 400 yards of the main Forest Roads. Welcome to the Big Leagues and good luck.
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Pinhoti Cult? Weren’t you just on a thread a week or so ago REAL upset because someone said “by any means” I believe you used the phrase “piss on you”. Lol I’m no expert but wouldn’t Dave be the exact model for the hunting style you’re trying to promote on here?
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: WALKER80 on February 14, 2020, 10:57:02 AM
When Alabama opens how many other states are open to hunt? Florida  is always tough, Mississippi is not much better. If you had three choices of which state to hunt one state was reported to have a bumper crop of Jakes last season and your going to hunt public land, were would you go? 
    I don’t buy OnX adding to the pressure. Maybe if you never knew how to read a topo  map and ONX has helped you not be scared to walk out of site of the truck, but if you’ve been using a map it makes little difference except now you carry one phone instead of 2-3 maps per state.

Quoted for truth...

Those of us that have been around the traveling turkey game long enough have watched many accounts of loose lips leading to influxes of hunting pressure that hurt hunt quality... Time and time again... The first significant go-round (in recent times) started with hunting forums back in the late 2000s. Boy, that really put a whomper on Kansas hunt quality bout the early 2010s! One of my favorite case-studies is the young guy on TNdeer.com forum who started killing turkeys like crazy on public land when he was a newbie. I actually spent a whole 10 minutes reading his post history and it was easy to figure out where he hunted. Heck, he told folks himself. I made the trip to TN to take advantage of the goodness before the pressure got too bad. Last time I went I felt like I needed a Kevlar vest.

But I digress... With social media nowdays, the impacts are even much greater...

I've been to that wma myself.  Unfortunately for me, I found his youtube videos later.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: LaLongbeard on February 14, 2020, 12:27:33 PM
What Dave Owens and the rest are doing I do not see them stating nothing about where they hunt at..I applaud them for respecting the locals and keeping it quiet.
It’s public land and not really anything can be done about people telling others or putting it on social media. Some of us were just pointing out what the end result is.
     If you are unable to figure out we’re they are hunting with them basically giving you the location then thats your issue. As stated they gave more than enough information non of which was needed for a hunting show  that clearly showed their  location.
      Some of you may have just got into the traveling to hunt turkeys fad. It wasn’t always a fad. It has been going on for decades long before YouTube long before Facebook. If you’ve been at it long enough you realize how little it takes to ruin a hunting area. The internet has made it much faster and wider reaching.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: silent tom on February 14, 2020, 12:55:50 PM
What Dave Owens and the rest are doing I do not see them stating nothing about where they hunt at..I applaud them for respecting the locals and keeping it quiet.
It’s public land and not really anything can be done about people telling others or putting it on social media. Some of us were just pointing out what the end result is.
     If you are unable to figure out we’re they are hunting with them basically giving you the location then thats your issue. As stated they gave more than enough information non of which was needed for a hunting show  that clearly showed their  location.
      Some of you may have just got into the traveling to hunt turkeys fad. It wasn’t always a fad. It has been going on for decades long before YouTube long before Facebook. If you’ve been at it long enough you realize how little it takes to ruin a hunting area. The internet has made it much faster and wider reaching.
Could not agree more.   
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 14, 2020, 03:02:39 PM
Dave has killed a super slam with 90% of them coming from public land... you’re gonna be hard pressed to convince anyone that he’s not a great turkey hunter just because he crawls up and shoots some of his birds


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: KentuckyLB on February 14, 2020, 03:09:03 PM
I have no problem at all crawling up on one and killing him..to each theyre own.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: kytrkyhntr on February 14, 2020, 04:00:09 PM
Fair enough... don’t know where the phrase “old school” comes from.. but yeah I gotcha!
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: LaLongbeard on February 14, 2020, 06:20:12 PM
Fair enough... don’t know where the phrase “old school” comes from.. but yeah I gotcha!

Old School, Traditional whatever it’s called nowadays. It was just turkey hunting when I came up.
Back then one of the worst insults you could give a turkey hunter was saying “ So and so has to crawl up on his Gobblers”. Same as baiting or any other short cut. You were looked at as less of a hunter for trying to cheat.
     Believe me I understand things have changed and the majority of people have no issue with doing “whatever it takes” but some traditions die hard. Shoot I remember when you could tell boys from girls just by looking at them lol, things change but some of us won’t. Warrant 423 is  one that will not and neither will I.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: kytrkyhntr on February 14, 2020, 07:55:12 PM
Lmao ok
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Yoder409 on February 15, 2020, 07:47:50 AM

Back then one of the worst insults you could give a turkey hunter was saying “ So and so has to crawl up on his Gobblers”. Same as baiting or any other short cut. You were looked at as less of a hunter for trying to cheat.
     


Still is today, most places...........and to guys who are out there for the HUNT rather than the kill.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: kytrkyhntr on February 15, 2020, 10:17:09 AM
The oldest hunting tactic in the history of mankind is stealth. But okay. I’m assuming if you send a yelp down a holler and hear a gobble you just plop down right there. Right at the exact spot you heard him? And sit there with your long box, recurve, and flannel shirt and wait for him to break “40 yards” you guys jack every thread on this forum patting yourself on the back for your style. It’s cool man. My original comment about the Pinhoti guy was more or less pointing out that Dave does it the right way. And the you tubers mentioned above have been a pretty positive light on something we all love to do. I’m sure all of them have negitaves and positives. But every thread on this website gets jacked by someone touting their “old school” style when it really isn’t that old school at all. The style is cool and takes skill and patience and much respect to anyone who even goes turkey hunting. But Jesus Christ quit patting your self on the back. Which I know you’re not because you all are sure to say on every thread “not saying what I do is perfect” “I just think this is the right way” blah blah blah. It’s comical. It’s okay guys you’re accepted
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: LaLongbeard on February 15, 2020, 11:56:43 AM
The oldest hunting tactic in the history of mankind is stealth. But okay. I’m assuming if you send a yelp down a holler and hear a gobble you just plop down right there. Right at the exact spot you heard him? And sit there with your long box, recurve, and flannel shirt and wait for him to break “40 yards” you guys jack every thread on this forum patting yourself on the back for your style. It’s cool man. My original comment about the Pinhoti guy was more or less pointing out that Dave does it the right way. And the you tubers mentioned above have been a pretty positive light on something we all love to do. I’m sure all of them have negitaves and positives. But every thread on this website gets jacked by someone touting their “old school” style when it really isn’t that old school at all. The style is cool and takes skill and patience and much respect to anyone who even goes turkey hunting. But Jesus Christ quit patting your self on the back. Which I know you’re not because you all are sure to say on every thread “not saying what I do is perfect” “I just think this is the right way” blah blah blah. It’s comical. It’s okay guys you’re accepted
I’m not sure why but for some reason every “old school” or “traditional “ Turkey hunter I know really enjoys upsetting the sensitive “do whatever it takes “ crowd lol. Not sure how the  two things are connected but it is a fact. Seeing the tears in person would be better....but we get by the best we can.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: kytrkyhntr on February 15, 2020, 12:18:54 PM
I’m not part of the do whatever it takes crowd personally. And I wasn’t talking to your trash . Do you just like hi jacking every thread on here and stating the same sentence about triggering people when you’re the one that cries constantly?
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Cowboy on February 16, 2020, 07:58:43 AM
Hen shooting?? Details?
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: zeke632 on February 16, 2020, 09:28:44 AM
I’ve now discovered that I’m part of the “Pinhoti Cult”. I don’t have one of his caps (because they were sold out) but I do have a Pinhoti t-shirt.  I enjoy the videos and have just recently found catman and a couple of the other public land videos out there. I expect to enjoy them too when I get around to watching them. I’m also one of those guys with the problem of not knowing how to figure out where they are hunting, other than the knowing what state they are in. 
I admire Dave Owens honesty in how he goes about killing turkeys. He could have only posted those that he called up to give the idea that he was a old school purest. But I think I remember him saying that he’s not a camera man or anything other than a turkey hunter showing how HE hunts.

Seems weird that someone is complaining about social media...on social media.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: GobbleNut on February 16, 2020, 09:56:10 AM
Seems weird that someone is complaining about social media...on social media.

Good point.

As for the idea that these YouTube guys are giving away hunting spots, I personally have not seen that at all.  If anybody figures out where they are hunting, it is probably because they live in the area already,...and if that is the case, they should already know if the place has good or bad turkey hunting and/or pressure,....and they know how to deal with it if they are competent turkey hunters. 

If hunting pressure is increasing anywhere, it is likely because spring gobbler hunting is becoming more and more of a passion for those that have discovered it.  It's FUN,...and more and more people are finding that out.  We ain't goin' backwards on that, folks!  If it's public land,...it's PUBLIC land.  Nobody has an exclusive right to it, regardless of how long we might have been hunting it.

Part of being a skilled turkey hunter is learning how to adapt to changing conditions.  One of those conditions is increased hunting pressure, no matter what it results from.  Adapt and deal with it.  There are plenty of avenues for doing that. 
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Roost 1 on February 16, 2020, 10:15:43 AM
Not to be argumentative but I’m gonna say there is a difference in “hunting pressure” on public land in NM vs TN.  If I showed a guy a public spot and then he in turn took THP there and they shot video, showed pin locations, etc for the world to see, I’d be a little pissed at the guy too... Thankfully I’m not in that situation.  However, I do agree public land is there for everyone’s use, some need to be a little wiser in how they share it.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: PEte_A on February 16, 2020, 10:40:31 AM
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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: buzzardroost on February 16, 2020, 10:49:33 AM
Catmans YouTube channel literally did do a ton of damage to one WMA.  He used to name it all
the time.  I really foresee public lands going more and more to quotas in the future to limit the nonsense.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Cowboy on February 16, 2020, 11:09:44 AM
Guilty as charged Zeke632. Lol I've never been in a cult before. All I can say us this, any guy that can travel and kill gobblers in 49 states is a good turkey hunter in my book.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Cowboy on February 16, 2020, 11:13:35 AM
Right there with you zeke632. Wasnt bashing your post. Got my Pinhoti hat AND t shirt.... :funnyturkey:
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: ncturkey on February 16, 2020, 11:33:26 AM
I feel sorry for the new guys trying to get into turkey hunting. Too much information to take in.
I have hunted WMA Lands since 1992. I learned to hunt them all on my own. I got topography maps of the areas. I scouted way more than I hunted. Out of state hunting can be hard. I have only hunted one out of state WMA lands. I used the same tactics I used on my home state WMA’s. Scouting was very important. I have one bit of advise for anyone that wants to take it. Call the DNR folks and ask them about the WMA areas you would like to hunt. You will be surprised how much help they can be.
But some you talk to will not give you much advise. They are hunters too. They will not give out there best areas. The more homework and boots on the ground you do will help you find good areas to hunt.
Plus one more thing do not just find one good area. Find as many as you can for back up.
Good Luck.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: GobbleNut on February 16, 2020, 03:38:00 PM
Not to be argumentative but I’m gonna say there is a difference in “hunting pressure” on public land in NM vs TN.  If I showed a guy a public spot and then he in turn took THP there and they shot video, showed pin locations, etc for the world to see, I’d be a little pissed at the guy too... Thankfully I’m not in that situation.  However, I do agree public land is there for everyone’s use, some need to be a little wiser in how they share it.

Not disagreeing with that at all.  I suppose I just haven't seen the videos where a specific location was identified.  For sure, that's not a good idea.  I appreciate someone trying to be helpful to other turkey hunters, but there are limits to that!

Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: catman529 on February 17, 2020, 01:07:15 AM
Catmans YouTube channel literally did do a ton of damage to one WMA.  He used to name it all
the time.  I really foresee public lands going more and more to quotas in the future to limit the nonsense.
I never once named a single area on my channel. Back when I got into hunting I made the mistake of talking about where I was hunting on a forum (being naive) and someone called me out for it, and I stopped doing it years ago.

A good friend of mine knows a lot of guys from his area who discovered said WMA and posted all their success on social media, telling everyone where it was. I’m pretty sure the Arkansas hunters have loose lips on the place too. Everyone just has to tell all their buddies, and that’s what ruins a spot more than anything.


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Gentry on February 17, 2020, 07:27:29 AM
Catmans YouTube channel literally did do a ton of damage to one WMA.  He used to name it all
the time.  I really foresee public lands going more and more to quotas in the future to limit the nonsense.
I never once named a single area on my channel. Back when I got into hunting I made the mistake of talking about where I was hunting on a forum (being naive) and someone called me out for it, and I stopped doing it years ago.

A good friend of mine knows a lot of guys from his area who discovered said WMA and posted all their success on social media, telling everyone where it was. I’m pretty sure the Arkansas hunters have loose lips on the place too. Everyone just has to tell all their buddies, and that’s what ruins a spot more than anything.


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Lose lips and social media is a double edged sword, but it way sharper on one side.


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Cove on February 17, 2020, 11:55:21 PM
I surely appreciate those of you that choose to follow along with my spring ramblings- I'll forever ask myself why, but do appreciate it.  :toothy12:

I've only in one very specific situation allowed there to be any hint as to where I was spending my Spring days and please realize, this is not for my gain. I'll typically spend a few days in an area once every few years- why would I care what happens once I'm gone? But I do, greatly, for the locals and others who may hunt those areas frequently. Have I seen social media take it's toll? Dang right. But I'm not selfish nor ignorant. I know that conservation is funded largely by the sale of hunting license. And I for one enjoy seeing the increased activity because I'm seeing those funds channeling into more ground for the hunting population. If I have a favorite spot that's overtaken by hunting pressure, I'm confident in my ability to find another. Luckily we live in a time where another gobbling turkey isn't too far away for the willing. So I refuse to sweat the small stuff and remain focused on the bigger pictures.

Also, I'm proud that the traveling to hunt "fad" has gained popularity. Whether I had any influence is not important- what is important is that more folks are spending time doing something they love in new and exciting places. Waking up to realize it's too late to do such things is unacceptable. So if I can add some motivation you better believe I will.

Sorry for continuing to steer this thread away from it's original intent. My attention was called due to my name being mentioned several times and while it's probably against my better judgement, felt a response was necessary regardless of it's effectiveness.
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Kygobblergetter on February 18, 2020, 12:05:31 AM
I surely appreciate those of you that choose to follow along with my spring ramblings- I'll forever ask myself why, but do appreciate it.  :toothy12:

I've only in one very specific situation allowed there to be any hint as to where I was spending my Spring days and please realize, this is not for my gain. I'll typically spend a few days in an area once every few years- why would I care what happens once I'm gone? But I do, greatly, for the locals and others who may hunt those areas frequently. Have I seen social media take it's toll? Dang right. But I'm not selfish nor ignorant. I know that conservation is funded largely by the sale of hunting license. And I for one enjoy seeing the increased activity because I'm seeing those funds channeling into more ground for the hunting population. If I have a favorite spot that's overtaken by hunting pressure, I'm confident in my ability to find another. Luckily we live in a time where another gobbling turkey isn't too far away for the willing. So I refuse to sweat the small stuff and remain focused on the bigger pictures.

Also, I'm proud that the traveling to hunt "fad" has gained popularity. Whether I had any influence is not important- what is important is that more folks are spending time doing something they love in new and exciting places. Waking up to realize it's too late to do such things is unacceptable. So if I can add some motivation you better believe I will.

Sorry for continuing to steer this thread away from it's original intent. My attention was called due to my name being mentioned several times and while it's probably against my better judgement, felt a response was necessary regardless of it's effectiveness.
Very well said. I sure haven’t been able to tell where you were hunting from any of your content, and I certainly haven’t needed any extra motivation to travel chasing turkeys. Some people want to bash and criticize but I personally feel that you are an excellent representation of the turkey hunting culture and clearly one heck of a turkey killer. At the end of the day it’s about getting out and enjoying hunting. Some people have clearly lost sight of that


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: kytrkyhntr on February 18, 2020, 12:23:56 AM
Well said Dave glad to be a part of the “cult”  :you_rock: :you_rock:
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Hughesjr60 on February 18, 2020, 05:23:32 AM
I hunt in Indiana. We get 16 days to hunt and can kill 1 turkey. A few years I kept saying I really wanted to hunt longer. We get 3 months to hunt deer and 16 days to hunt turkeys. I love hunting turkeys so much more. Then Dave comes on and podcasts and the old spring thunder/THP all talking about how easy it is to just go. My brother who lives in Ohio started showing interest a couple years ago in turkey hunting so I started going to Ohio on a 5 day trip with my brother. This will be our third year going on trips.  He got his first turkey last year. We research a state park, camp, and hunt. It’s a blast. This year for spring break my wife wants to take our camper down to Alabama and stay at Desoto State Park. She shocked me two weeks ago and said for your birthday next month I want you to get an Alabama turkey license and go while we are there. I was floored. I’ll only get to hunt 3 mornings and know it’s going to be tough but I don’t care. I’ll get to be in the spring woods hunting a different state a month before my opener. If it wasn’t for Dave and guys like that I’d never had the courage to just do it. I plan on traveling ever year to hunt longer. If I harvest a turkey or not I’m thankful for the time I get to go.

As far as how someone hunts turkeys. I don’t care. As long as they are having fun and it’s legal. I know some guys are worried that all this attention to public land is going to make it harder to get away but I haven’t felt that yet and the little I have seen it get a little “more busy” So far I’ve been able to escape the pressure. 
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: Nathan_Wiles on February 18, 2020, 08:51:38 AM
Completely not on topic but this caught my eye
Cove quote:
"what is important is that more folks are spending time doing something they love in new and exciting places. Waking up to realize it's too late to do such things is unacceptable."
*Don't wait another minute. Tomorrow is not promised nor guaranteed.

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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: catman529 on February 18, 2020, 10:06:49 AM
Well said


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Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: RutnNStrutn on February 18, 2020, 01:33:39 PM
I surely appreciate those of you that choose to follow along with my spring ramblings- I'll forever ask myself why, but do appreciate it.  :toothy12:

I've only in one very specific situation allowed there to be any hint as to where I was spending my Spring days and please realize, this is not for my gain. I'll typically spend a few days in an area once every few years- why would I care what happens once I'm gone? But I do, greatly, for the locals and others who may hunt those areas frequently. Have I seen social media take it's toll? Dang right. But I'm not selfish nor ignorant. I know that conservation is funded largely by the sale of hunting license. And I for one enjoy seeing the increased activity because I'm seeing those funds channeling into more ground for the hunting population. If I have a favorite spot that's overtaken by hunting pressure, I'm confident in my ability to find another. Luckily we live in a time where another gobbling turkey isn't too far away for the willing. So I refuse to sweat the small stuff and remain focused on the bigger pictures.

Also, I'm proud that the traveling to hunt "fad" has gained popularity. Whether I had any influence is not important- what is important is that more folks are spending time doing something they love in new and exciting places. Waking up to realize it's too late to do such things is unacceptable. So if I can add some motivation you better believe I will.

Sorry for continuing to steer this thread away from it's original intent. My attention was called due to my name being mentioned several times and while it's probably against my better judgement, felt a response was necessary regardless of it's effectiveness.

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Only a select few mentioned you negatively in this thread. The rest of us realize you're not the issue, and have no problem with what you do. Good luck this spring. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. :fud: :turkey: :turkey: :turkey: :turkey:
Title: Re: Choccolocco WMA
Post by: cuttinAR on February 18, 2020, 10:29:56 PM
I surely appreciate those of you that choose to follow along with my spring ramblings- I'll forever ask myself why, but do appreciate it.  :toothy12:

I've only in one very specific situation allowed there to be any hint as to where I was spending my Spring days and please realize, this is not for my gain. I'll typically spend a few days in an area once every few years- why would I care what happens once I'm gone? But I do, greatly, for the locals and others who may hunt those areas frequently. Have I seen social media take it's toll? Dang right. But I'm not selfish nor ignorant. I know that conservation is funded largely by the sale of hunting license. And I for one enjoy seeing the increased activity because I'm seeing those funds channeling into more ground for the hunting population. If I have a favorite spot that's overtaken by hunting pressure, I'm confident in my ability to find another. Luckily we live in a time where another gobbling turkey isn't too far away for the willing. So I refuse to sweat the small stuff and remain focused on the bigger pictures.

Also, I'm proud that the traveling to hunt "fad" has gained popularity. Whether I had any influence is not important- what is important is that more folks are spending time doing something they love in new and exciting places. Waking up to realize it's too late to do such things is unacceptable. So if I can add some motivation you better believe I will.

Sorry for continuing to steer this thread away from it's original intent. My attention was called due to my name being mentioned several times and while it's probably against my better judgement, felt a response was necessary regardless of it's effectiveness.

Respect ^^^^

If it's in the southeast or Midwest I can generally tell what area of the state you are in but if you've been around who couldn't.  I'm not sure how you could hide that and not sure that you should. 

What you are doing showing people the traditional way of hunting is worth the price of a few internet scouts.  Those that rely on other types of hunting are not wrong to do so, what they don't understand is what they are missing by straight up matching wits with a gobbler.  Good on you for what you do and good luck this season.  I watch, enjoy, and learn a few things.

And I know exactly where you killed that gobbler in Arkansas last year and I'll be there on opening morning!!