I am new to turkey hunting and appreciate your help in choosing a scope/sight for my SBE II. I have read good reviews on the Trijicon RMR Red Dot Sight and the Burris FastFire III. Is the Trijicon worth the extra money? Is there another option I am not considering? Also, do I want the 3MOA? Thanks in advance.
The trigacon is a great sight but honestly the fastfireiii is just as nice! I prefer the 3 moa but thats personal preference. I have had both on my turkey guns and my law enforcement guns and can say I would save some cash and go with the fastfire iii. Good luck!
Get the vortex venom 3moa. It has 10 intensity levels and more moa adjustments. Or buy the aimpoint 9000sc for sale on here. It's an excellent sight
I appreciate the help. Can't wait to get my gun dialed in.
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If you don't want to spend a couple hundred bucks, I'd recommend the red dot made by AT3 Tactical. It's like $75 on Amazon and has a lifetime warranty. Excellent Reviews as well. Mine has been holding zero and it was easy to sight in. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190413/e87eb26903c48733605a57d5fa2731cd.jpg)
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Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
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Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
How is precision aiming with the Triangle. I bought a dual illumination RMR with the 7.0 MOA Amber Dot and I didn't like it al all. It just seemed to big to precisely place it on a gobbler head at 50yds. Im sending it back to Optics Planet. I'm debating the 12.9MOA Triangle or the 3.25MOA Dot for the replacement. I like the idea of no batteries or electronics in the Dual Illuminated but not crazy about the reticle options. Also have read that the Triangle sight is not as bright as the Dot.
Also anyone using the LED vs the Adjustable LED? Is the Adjustable LED necessary for the Turkey woods?
Quote from: rusty842 on April 14, 2019, 07:57:53 AM
pQuote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
How is precision aiming with the Triangle. I bought a dual illumination RMR with the 7.0 MOA Amber Dot and I didn't like it al all. It just seemed to big to precisely place it on a gobbler head at 50yds. Im sending it back to Optics Planet. I'm debating the 12.9MOA Triangle or the 3.25MOA Dot for the replacement. I like the idea of no batteries or electronics in the Dual Illuminated but not crazy about the reticle options. Also have read that the Triangle sight is not as bright as the Dot.
Also anyone using the LED vs the Adjustable LED? Is the Adjustable LED necessary for the Turkey woods?
Best thing I've ever saw, hands down well worth the money. I set my pattern to where it shoots center mass at the point/tip of the triangle. So basically I place the head of the gobbler atop it. It's very precision...
Took an Osceola just this weekend in heavy, heavy fog at first light, where I thought the sight wouldn't even illuminate but it was as bright as could be. It's a super, super product.
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Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 14, 2019, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: rusty842 on April 14, 2019, 07:57:53 AM
pQuote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
How is precision aiming with the Triangle. I bought a dual illumination RMR with the 7.0 MOA Amber Dot and I didn't like it al all. It just seemed to big to precisely place it on a gobbler head at 50yds. Im sending it back to Optics Planet. I'm debating the 12.9MOA Triangle or the 3.25MOA Dot for the replacement. I like the idea of no batteries or electronics in the Dual Illuminated but not crazy about the reticle options. Also have read that the Triangle sight is not as bright as the Dot.
Also anyone using the LED vs the Adjustable LED? Is the Adjustable LED necessary for the Turkey woods?
Best thing I've ever saw, hands down well worth the money. I set my pattern to where it shoots center mass at the point/tip of the triangle. So basically I place the head of the gobbler atop it. It's very precision...
Took an Osceola just this weekend in heavy, heavy fog at first light, where I thought the sight wouldn't even illuminate but it was as bright as could be. It's a super, super product.
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Great to hear, but upon further research it seems that I have an astigmatism that I was unaware of. I watched several videos on YouTube about the issue with red dots. The 7 MOA Amber Dot "bloomed" and makes it appears larger than it actually is. I thought it was a brightness issue at first and I placed tape over the fiber optic which helped some. I'm going to see if I can put my hands on one with a triangle reticle before I make my final decision. I'm wondering if color might have something to do with it as well.
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Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
I have on of these that I love. Only minor issue is if you are in a dark area aiming into a very bright area like in a blind shooting out. The dot is kinda hard to pickup but it's not a deal breaker
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Quote from: wchadw on April 14, 2019, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
I have on of these that I love. Only minor issue is if you are in a dark area aiming into a very bright area like in a blind shooting out. The dot is kinda hard to pickup but it's not a deal breaker
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One the one I have (Dual Illuminated with 7 MOA Amber Dot) if you look from inside the house out into the yard, I see a perfect dot like intended. It is hard to pickup but plenty bright to get the job done.
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Quote from: rusty842 on April 14, 2019, 11:58:04 AM
Quote from: wchadw on April 14, 2019, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
I have on of these that I love. Only minor issue is if you are in a dark area aiming into a very bright area like in a blind shooting out. The dot is kinda hard to pickup but it's not a deal breaker
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One the one I have (Dual Illuminated with 7 MOA Amber Dot) if you look from inside the house out into the yard, I see a perfect dot like intended. It is hard to pickup but plenty bright to get the job done.
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The green is super sharp. I didn't wanna go with a red colored, red dot, because I figured it would get lost in the red of the gobblers neck/head. I can see where an Amber colored dot would be hard to pickup in certain situations. My triangle ended up only sitting about a cm above the front bead when looking through it down the barrel.
The sight is crazy bright outside compared to indoors. It's really clear though it does seem to have a slight purple-ish hue to it almost like looking through sunglasses but it doesn't effect vision one bit. I can't recommend the triangle enough... it's awesome.
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Quote from: wchadw on April 14, 2019, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
I have on of these that I love. Only minor issue is if you are in a dark area aiming into a very bright area like in a blind shooting out. The dot is kinda hard to pickup but it's not a deal breaker
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Playing with it in mock situations, i had that happen as well .I loose it indoors on bright surfaces in heavy light but in the feild it has performed great.
I totally understand if you were to say set up looking into a sunrise it would hamper it some like you say.
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Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 14, 2019, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: wchadw on April 14, 2019, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 13, 2019, 12:07:13 AM
Depends on how much you hunt and how much you're looking to spend.
I just installed the rmr Trijicon (fiber/tritium-12.9MOA triangle)on my Benelli SBE2 and am so very pleased with my choice. I looked at Leupold Delta Point Pro, but when it came to mounting options it just wasn't there...
There's a heap of low pro mounts for the Burris FFs. It really boils down to what you want.
I have on of these that I love. Only minor issue is if you are in a dark area aiming into a very bright area like in a blind shooting out. The dot is kinda hard to pickup but it's not a deal breaker
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Playing with it in mock situations, i had that happen as well .I loose it indoors on bright surfaces in heavy light but in the feild it has performed great.
I totally understand if you were to say set up looking into a sunrise it would hamper it some like you say.
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I had this happen in a bind shooting out. Took me a minute to find the dot. I have a green. I just stuck the gun a little further out window and shot the bird. In normal sunlight mine is super bright
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Looks like you got same setup I have(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/0c5fc7827472409daeb9dbc9a7482bb9.jpg)
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Quote from: wchadw on April 14, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
Looks like you got same setup I have(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/0c5fc7827472409daeb9dbc9a7482bb9.jpg)
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Awesome gun!
Just ordered a steady grip and need to have it dipped...Hope I end up liking it. What shells are you shooting?
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Just looked at a FF3. It has worse bloom than the RMR. I'm afraid that the green triangle is going to look terrible to my eye. I don't know what to do.
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Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 14, 2019, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: wchadw on April 14, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
Looks like you got same setup I have(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/0c5fc7827472409daeb9dbc9a7482bb9.jpg)
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Awesome gun!
Just ordered a steady grip and need to have it dipped...Hope I end up liking it. What shells are you shooting?
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Nitro 7x9
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What rail are you guys using on the sbe II? I am still on the fence about what sight to buy. Is there a universal rail? Or do I have to match the rail to the sight?
Quote from: Twodogs on April 15, 2019, 06:52:00 PM
What rail are you guys using on the sbe II? I am still on the fence about what sight to buy. Is there a universal rail? Or do I have to match the rail to the sight?
Depends on the sight you're going with really. There's several choices depending...
Check out speed beef for the Burris fast fire or there's one by Sumtoy.
Which sight are you getting?
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Quote from: Twodogs on April 15, 2019, 06:52:00 PM
What rail are you guys using on the sbe II? I am still on the fence about what sight to buy. Is there a universal rail? Or do I have to match the rail to the sight?
You can buy a weaver rail or a picatinny that fits a SBE 2&3. Most sights have a weaver or pacitinny mounting option but the sight sits pretty high.
I going with the Scalar works SYNC/RMR Mount. It's really low on the receiver but only works with an Trijicon RMR.
https://scalarworks.com/shop/optic-mounts/sync-trijicon-rmr-mount/
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Quote from: rusty842 on April 15, 2019, 08:50:13 PM
Quote from: Twodogs on April 15, 2019, 06:52:00 PM
What rail are you guys using on the sbe II? I am still on the fence about what sight to buy. Is there a universal rail? Or do I have to match the rail to the sight?
You can buy a weaver rail or a picatinny that fits a SBE 2&3. Most sights have a weaver or pacitinny mounting option but the sight sits pretty high.
I going with the Scalar works SYNC/RMR Mount. It's really low on the receiver but only works with an Trijicon RMR.
https://scalarworks.com/shop/optic-mounts/sync-trijicon-rmr-mount/
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That's the route I went and there's no way I could be happier with it. Just pricey.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/8e76b61e6caa9c938dc8c901ac9f3e3e.jpg)
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Sorry, just re read the entire thread.
So you're torn in what to buy because of your stigmatism... is there a local gun shop or bass pro you can visit to play with them all in hand???
The trijicon is bright but not like electric light bright if that makes sense and I think it may be the difference for you(I'm thinking lights at night and how they star and gleem)
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Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 15, 2019, 09:18:52 PM
Sorry, just re read the entire thread.
So you're torn in what to buy because of your stigmatism... is there a local gun shop or bass pro you can visit to play with them all in hand???
The trijicon is bright but not like electric light bright if that makes sense and I think it may be the difference for you(I'm thinking lights at night and how they star and gleem)
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I had a RMR Dual Illuminated with a 7.0 Amber Dot and only in CERTAIN lighting conditions ,it had a "Bloom" around it. With the "Bloom" my guess is that it was at least 10 MOA. That made it hard for me to aim exactly where I wanted to on a turkey.
I wanted a Dual Illuminated because it's battery free and therefore almost worry free.
My concern is the IF the Green 12.9 MOA Triangle "blooms" ,like the 7MOA, I won't have a precise aiming point. If that's the case I will be in worse shape than I was to start out with.
I went to a local tactical store and they didn't have any Trijicon RMRs. They did have a Burris FF3 3MOA and the "bloom" on it inside the store was terrible.
Going tomorrow to another store and hopefully they will have some to look at. Closest Bass Pro is 80 miles.
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Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 15, 2019, 09:18:52 PM
I'm thinking lights at night and how they star and gleem
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That's kinda the way I see it. It's something with my eyes. The dot looked different in each eye.
The only time it did look like a perfect do was when I was looking out into a brightly lit area and the dot was "washing out" a little bit.
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Quote from: rusty842 on April 15, 2019, 08:50:13 PM
Quote from: Twodogs on April 15, 2019, 06:52:00 PM
What rail are you guys using on the sbe II? I am still on the fence about what sight to buy. Is there a universal rail? Or do I have to match the rail to the sight?
You can buy a weaver rail or a picatinny that fits a SBE 2&3. Most sights have a weaver or pacitinny mounting option but the sight sits pretty high.
I going with the Scalar works SYNC/RMR Mount. It's really low on the receiver but only works with an Trijicon RMR.
https://scalarworks.com/shop/optic-mounts/sync-trijicon-rmr-mount/
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That is a good looking set up. Did you buy the bundle from Scalarworks? Or the sight and rail separately? The bundle comes with the Trijicon RM06. Is that the one I want?
I originally bought the RM04 with the Picatinny Mount. It is being returned because the dot was too big for me. It had a glow or "Bloom" around it which is caused by an astigmatism of the eye. I adapted a section of weaver rail so the sight would fit. It sat pretty high so I'm going back with SYNC Mount. I think I'm going to get the RM09 which is a 1MOA due to the way my eye sees the dot. I think the RM06 would be perfect for someone without an astigmatism.
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Thanks. That sight mount is a no brainer... I was looking at Leupold Delta point pro before I found that sight mount on accident, My choice immediately changed as I wanted to go with the green triangle anyway and the other one(Leupold) was a red triangle and battery powered. I bought the mount from them and bought the site on eBay for the cheapest price I could find anywhere... Mine is a RMO8
It's the ultimate IMO
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My vote goes to the Burris FF3
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I bought and really like my Sumtoy mount for my FFIII on my SBEIII. My FastFireIII sight has the 3 MOA dot.
I have astigmatism as well and the "Auto" setting usually starbursts on me. However, the first and second manual setting don't do it as bad for me and I don't have a problem with it/don't notice it. It might be more noticeable/problematic on the 8 MOA dot.
I'm not sure where you are from, but if your area has a local facebook group for turkey hunters, someone on there might be willing to show you theirs.
Quote from: ManfromGreenSwamp on April 16, 2019, 05:19:30 PM
Thanks. That sight mount is a no brainer... I was looking at Leupold Delta point pro before I found that sight mount on accident, My choice immediately changed as I wanted to go with the green triangle anyway and the other one(Leupold) was a red triangle and battery powered. I bought the mount from them and bought the site on eBay for the cheapest price I could find anywhere... Mine is a RMO8
It's the ultimate IMO
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I did exactly what you recommended. Thank you. Bought the mount then the sight on eBay. My buddy is putting the pistol grip and sight on it over the weekend. Can't wait to dial it in. I have 4 chokes to try.
AWESOME!
Maybe post a picture and tell us what you think when you're all fixed up. You won't be sorry, it's an awesome set up. Interested to know of your choke/load testing too!