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General Discussion => LEARNING TO TURKEY HUNT => Topic started by: Dazzler on April 08, 2019, 10:39:48 AM
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I've been reading and there have been several mentions of switching up camo late season.
Currently I run full MO Bottomland. Should I be concerned if I'm just going to be up against a tree or some blowdown? I've always focused on movement vs camo pattern.
I hunt in N. AL thick woods with several trees to sit. My season is 30 MAR-30 APR.
Is it more of having something else in your tool box for when its needed?
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Some people love to get crazy with camo. I think it is really overrated to be honest. You are right in focusing on your movement over camo. Sure switching up camo to better match the terrain is great and if you want to spend some cash go for it. It could/will help, but not terribly much in the grand scheme. Turkeys see movement...not the technicalities of your camo pattern.
If I tried to get crazy with camo I would go insane. I hunt nice oak ridges, then dense areas, and then swamp. What am I going to do? Bring a basket of different options for when the terrain changes?
But like I said if you got nice cash flow and want to buy some different camo it can be beneficial.
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Camo is more about status among your fellow turkey hunters than it is about turkeys seeing it. If you want to be viewed as a serious turkey hunter, you have to wear the latest and greatest camo. Everything has to match perfectly, including pants, shirts, jackets, cap, headnet, socks, and even your underwear. In addition, your shotgun has to match everything else. Anything short of that and you are viewed as a wannabe.
Of course, it can't be a brand new outfit, either. It has to show signs of wear,...and maybe even has some dirt on it. If you got brand new stuff, then take it out and fling some mud on it right away. If you wear it right off the rack, then you are automatically relegated back to the wannabe status.
Naturally, all experienced turkey hunters know all of this and dress accordingly. None of us want to be looked down upon by our peers,...at least not before we get into the woods and demonstrate that we don't have a clue anyway.
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Turkey hunting gospel GoobleNut! ;D
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lol GoobleNut
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Different strokes for different folks. I prefer to wear something similar to my environment. You break out some HTC Green too early out here and it’s like wearing blaze orange. My go to for hunting Ponderosa Pines is Greenleaf and when I’m on the prairie I’m wearing Kings Camo desert brush. Greenleaf looks black on the prairie at a long distance.
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Think I’m gonna stick with my bottomlands and brush In if needed.
Hunt pretty much the same area and there are plenty of trees to back up on.
Just wanted some feedback since I don’t have any peers to criticize my fashion sense in the woods.
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LOL Gobblenut.
I have killed several birds wearing my dark brown Wolverine cotton duck pants I wear to work. Once even had a green scrub under my leafy top. So I had muck boots, solid brown pants, green scrub with leafy camo over it and killed the bird in my avatar. I know because that day I was working and radiographed that bird at work before I cleaned him.
Whatever you wear, if you look like a dark blob, you better have a dark blob behind you (tree). just be still.
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You break out some HTC Green too early out here and it’s like wearing blaze orange.
I bought a Winchester SXP Longbeard not too long ago and this year they changed the mossy oak pattern on it to something with these bright as heck green oak leaves. I had the guy at the store go through all 12+ shotguns they had to find me the one with the least green on it.
I am trying to pray there isn't a bunch of snow on the ground when season hits...let alone have green friggen leaves. Might as well go out into the woods with a big rainbow stick to wave around.
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Came across some family owned ASAT leafy suit camo.
Anybody have experience with this stuff?
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Camo is for folks who can’t sit still. This year I hunted in dark brown khakis and a Camo shirt. Had hen so close I thought she was going to walk up to me. She came in on my off/right side so there was no brush covering. Bubba
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Everything is sat has been said. Sit still it’s over rated
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Camo patterns are generally designed to attract hunters. You don't need 5 different sets of woods camo.
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In all seriousness... I feel it is far more important to wash your hunting clothes in non-color brightening detergent...
Turkeys can see UV, and color brightening detergent really increases UV (from my understanding). I actually wash my clothes in some detergent my wife purchased specifically for hunting and camouflage.
As far as camouflage... I believe you can park a car in the middle of a field and hunt from it, as long as the turkey does not see you move in the car.
The more the camouflage blends into the background, the more it helps hide "subtle" movement. I generally put on what I have, but if I can match my surroundings, I will. I would not go out and specifically buy new clothes to match the tree I am going to sit against though.
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I’ve never worried about UV brightness of my clothing. I don’t wash my hunting clothes a lot when I do I use Tide, never had a deer or turkey react. I had two longbeards at 5 feet not yards and they never mentioned my detergent or why I was so close to the hen they just heard lol. UV brightners, Hecs suits, scentloc, ozone machines etc etc are just scams perpetrated on the gullible. I wear Mossyoak bottomland everyday of the season never had a problem. Sitting in the sun were something can reflect light, or movement are the things to avoid.
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I’ve never worried about UV brightness of my clothing. I don’t wash my hunting clothes a lot when I do I use Tide, never had a deer or turkey react.
I do not know if deer have the photoreceptors to see the UV spectrum, but turkeys do, as do waterfowl.
I do not know if birds have reacted to it or not, but I know that there have been plenty of times both hunting waterfowl and turkeys when birds were coming in, I was still, and they saw something they did not like.
Admittedly, I think it is more important for waterfowl, as due to pure hunting pressure they are more wary about coming into something that "does not look right."
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I’ve never worried about UV brightness of my clothing. I don’t wash my hunting clothes a lot when I do I use Tide, never had a deer or turkey react.
I do not know if deer have the photoreceptors to see the UV spectrum, but turkeys do, as do waterfowl.
Deer hunters were the original target for the UV scam lol. I never heard of ducks or turkeys being bothered by the UV brightners until recently. I can assure you I have never hunted in a blind, and use regular washing detergent and the times I have been busted had nothing to do with what laundry detergent I use.
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Deer hunters were the original target for the UV scam lol. I never heard of ducks or turkeys being bothered by the UV brightners until recently. I can assure you I have never hunted in a blind, and use regular washing detergent and the times I have been busted had nothing to do with what laundry detergent I use.
I actually did research on photoreceptors in college. Got to use technology that actually was able to view individual photoreceptors on fish... The Paper was published in a scientific journal..
I know that birds have (including turkeys and ducks) have photoreceptors capable of detecting wavelengths of light in the UV spectrum. Looking through devices capable of seeing UV, there is no doubt that color brightening detergents are far more visible viewing through them...
I would not call this a scam... Might not be as important as portrayed, but the science is there to support the claim.
Personally, I do not get all that much time in the field, and I can watch the sunrise from my house. When I go in the field, I make all reasonable efforts to improve my chances of success. Buying a separate box of detergent to wash my hunting clothes is a very small (and relatively inexpensive) effort... Maybe it helps, maybe it does not.
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If it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70’s that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn’t done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?
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More often than not I'll be in my WWII military camo, or some combination of it. Let's face it...the government only spent how many millions of our tax dollars to come up with it as the best all-around LOL.
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If it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70’s that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn’t done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?
Not convinced the HEC suit is a scam or not a scam, the printable behind it is very well known, it is just a Faraday cage or Faraday shield for the body. I would like to see some independent study on one of the suits with scientific equipment.
It is like those that say Scent Lok suits don't work because they were sued and lost, they did not lose because it does not work, they lost because they said that all you had to do is throw it in the dryer and it would work and that was wrong. Now if you wash it in a carbon wash and then dry it it does work which has been proven.
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If it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70’s that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn’t done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?
Not convinced the HEC suit is a scam or not a scam, the printable behind it is very well known, it is just a Faraday cage or Faraday shield for the body. I would like to see some independent study on one of the suits with scientific equipment.
It is like those that say Scent Lok suits don't work because they were sued and lost, they did not lose because it does not work, they lost because they said that all you had to do is throw it in the dryer and it would work and that was wrong. Now if you wash it in a carbon wash and then dry it it does work which has been proven.
Scentloc got sued cause it doesn’t work. It’s never been proven to work. A Bloodhound doesn’t come close to a Whitetails nose and Scentloc and the scent killer spray both failed the bloodhound test. I think Hecs Suits absolutely work.....no question the reason some people don’t kill anything is because the animal could sense there electrical field? It’s so redicoulous it’s not even funny.
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If it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70’s that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn’t done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?
Not convinced the HEC suit is a scam or not a scam, the printable behind it is very well known, it is just a Faraday cage or Faraday shield for the body. I would like to see some independent study on one of the suits with scientific equipment.
It is like those that say Scent Lok suits don't work because they were sued and lost, they did not lose because it does not work, they lost because they said that all you had to do is throw it in the dryer and it would work and that was wrong. Now if you wash it in a carbon wash and then dry it it does work which has been proven.
Scentloc got sued cause it doesn’t work. It’s never been proven to work. A Bloodhound doesn’t come close to a Whitetails nose and Scentloc and the scent killer spray both failed the bloodhound test. I think Hecs Suits absolutely work.....no question the reason some people don’t kill anything is because the animal could sense there electrical field? It’s so redicoulous it’s not even funny.
Of course you can kill an animal without a HEC's suit, never said you could not. I again would like to see some scientific evidence either way, I like science and seeing things being challenged to come up with an outcome either way. All I am saying is if a faraday cage can block one type of electrical field and the human body is full of electrical field why could it not work? I am neither for or against it, I am for "Let's test it" Some people think just because something is new it is no good, I am not one of them. I will not go spend money on one though, not until I see some kind of scientific study results and even then I may not, kinda getting to the point it is not hunting anymore.
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If it makes you feel better to use the separate detergent fine. But every detergent sold has UV brightners unless you buy one specifically without it. How many people do you think use the regular detergent vs UV wash? There were scientific studies in the 70’s that claimed we were in a global cooling trend and if something wasn’t done we were headed for an Ice age lol. Science papers are good for inside classrooms. Ozone machines,scentloc suits, Hec suits, and the UV effects are a scam plain and simple. You rarely hear about it anymore but it was huge in the 80s-90s why is that ?
Not convinced the HEC suit is a scam or not a scam, the printable behind it is very well known, it is just a Faraday cage or Faraday shield for the body. I would like to see some independent study on one of the suits with scientific equipment.
It is like those that say Scent Lok suits don't work because they were sued and lost, they did not lose because it does not work, they lost because they said that all you had to do is throw it in the dryer and it would work and that was wrong. Now if you wash it in a carbon wash and then dry it it does work which has been proven.
Scentloc got sued cause it doesn’t work. It’s never been proven to work. A Bloodhound doesn’t come close to a Whitetails nose and Scentloc and the scent killer spray both failed the bloodhound test. I think Hecs Suits absolutely work.....no question the reason some people don’t kill anything is because the animal could sense there electrical field? It’s so redicoulous it’s not even funny.
Of course you can kill an animal without a HEC's suit, never said you could not. I again would like to see some scientific evidence either way, I like science and seeing things being challenged to come up with an outcome either way. All I am saying is if a faraday cage can block one type of electrical field and the human body is full of electrical field why could it not work? I am neither for or against it, I am for "Let's test it" Some people think just because something is new it is no good, I am not one of them. I will not go spend money on one though, not until I see some kind of scientific study results and even then I may not, kinda getting to the point it is not hunting anymore.
When I am wrong I will say I am wrong, it looks like I must have misread something or did not understand it right but either way I am wrong about the ScentLok. https://www.petersenshunting.com/editorial/the-great-debate-does-carbon-clothing-work/272963
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I actually did research on photoreceptors in college. Got to use technology that actually was able to view individual photoreceptors on fish... The Paper was published in a scientific journal..
I know that birds have (including turkeys and ducks) have photoreceptors capable of detecting wavelengths of light in the UV spectrum. Looking through devices capable of seeing UV, there is no doubt that color brightening detergents are far more visible viewing through them...
I would not call this a scam... Might not be as important as portrayed, but the science is there to support the claim.
Good to actually hear from someone who has directly done scientific research on this. Most of us just "shoot from the hip" when discussing topics such as those presented in this thread. I don't use special detergents myself, but at least now I know that there is at least the possibility that it might make a difference in certain situations.
As for the HECS discussion, again, I don't know if it works or not. It seems far-fetched to believe, but then again, if I poo-pooed every concept that my pea-brain told me was impossible, I would still be living in a cave trying to sort out the use of the wheel.
When all is said and done, I just base the use of some of these products on whether they constitute "fair chase" or not. The idea that I could put on clothing that would allow me to approach a turkey (or any other game species) without the proper stealth needed to actually consider myself to be "hunting", rather than just taking advantage of technology, does not qualify as fair chase to me.
Now, if somebody else wants to use any of the current products that are technology-based to enhance their chances of success,...and those products are legal,...then go for it. Personally, I just don't want to tilt the odds in my favor enough such that I begin to wonder if I am "hunting" or just "killing".
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You don’t need to write scientific papers or spend time staring thru a microscope to know if any of this is a scam or not. It’s called spending time in the woods lol. I’ve spent most of my life in the outdoors. I don’t need a infomercial to tell me I need such and such item to get close to game. I’ve been doing it my entire life. I’ve killed hundreds of deer with a longbow or recurve at 20 yards or less I’ve had deer close enough to touch multiple times. This turkey season I had two Gobblers come in at 5 feet in full strut for couple minutes until I could get a shot. If I was gullible and had bought one of these items I’d have probably also contributed my success to the scam. If you spend enough time in the woods and learn woodsmanship you will have plenty of close encounters with game animals.
As far as the UV scam if you’ve ever hunted without using the special detergent and have not had problems killing what more proof do you need. Do you really believe more animals would have been killed if you’d used the right washing detergent lol.
Gobblenut has been around A LONG time I’d be interested in hearing what learned opinions he had in the 1970’s when NASA scientists were writing papers about the global cooling trend that had been building since the 1940’s, or how much time he spent pontificating on Y2K lol.
As far as a HECs suit stop and think about it. Game cameras put off a higher electrical magnetic field than a human does yet deer and turkeys parade around in front of them all the time?? Why is that , does everyone have a tiny HECS suit for there cameras lol.
The whole thing boils down to hunting abilities there not for sale you can’t borrow them you have to learn them. The fact that a lot of companies are getting rich promiseing gullible people they could be a hunter if they bought such and such item is sad. Get off the couch or lab table and go learn to hunt
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Personally, I can leap tall buildings in a single bound,...but don't ask me to prove it with an actual demonstration. ;D
..In the meantime, I am going to rely on those with a lot more expertise than me to inform me about other subjects,...and when about 99% of those folks tell me that something is fact, I am inclined to listen to them... :toothy12: :toothy9:
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Birds can see colors much better and differently than other animal species. That's widely believed by the scientific community largely because birds are often brilliantly colored them self. If they couldn't see colors so well -say like a deer for instance, they would be better of being a more natural color than brilliantly colored like they are.
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Personally, I can leap tall buildings in a single bound,...but don't ask me to prove it with an actual demonstration. ;D
..In the meantime, I am going to rely on those with a lot more expertise than me to inform me about other subjects,...and when about 99% of those folks tell me that something is fact, I am inclined to listen to them... :toothy12: :toothy9:
So your still waiting on the other 98% of science to back up either the UV brightners claim or the Hecs suit claim? Scentloc has pretty much died on the vine lol.
PS some of the same scientists that claimed we were going to freeze in 1971 are now on the global warming wagon....go figure.
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So your still waiting on the other 98% of science to back up either the UV brightners claim or the Hecs suit claim? Scentloc has pretty much died on the vine lol.
PS some of the same scientists that claimed we were going to freeze in 1971 are now on the global warming wagon....go figure.
Again, I don't know squat about UV brighteners or HECS suit claims,...doesn't matter to me, personally. ...And I don't have a clue as to what percentage of scientists support the claims.
On the other subject (which I don't like to discuss on these forums due to the obvious biases that people tend to steadfastly adhere to regardless of the facts involved), comparing the "global cooling" theory that a relatively minor number of "scientists" espoused to the overwhelming acceptance of human-caused global warming we are witnessing is akin to the old adage of "comparing apples to oranges",...although in this case it is more like comparing "grapes to watermelons".
..And in anticipation of the backlash my comments above will surely bring, here is my other "old adage"...."There are none so blind as those that will not see"... :angel9:
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You don’t need to write scientific papers or spend time staring thru a microscope to know if any of this is a scam or not. It’s called spending time in the woods lol. I’ve spent most of my life in the outdoors. I don’t need a infomercial to tell me I need such and such item to get close to game. I’ve been doing it my entire life. I’ve killed hundreds of deer with a longbow or recurve at 20 yards or less I’ve had deer close enough to touch multiple times. This turkey season I had two Gobblers come in at 5 feet in full strut for couple minutes until I could get a shot. If I was gullible and had bought one of these items I’d have probably also contributed my success to the scam. If you spend enough time in the woods and learn woodsmanship you will have plenty of close encounters with game animals.
As far as the UV scam if you’ve ever hunted without using the special detergent and have not had problems killing what more proof do you need. Do you really believe more animals would have been killed if you’d used the right washing detergent lol.
Gobblenut has been around A LONG time I’d be interested in hearing what learned opinions he had in the 1970’s when NASA scientists were writing papers about the global cooling trend that had been building since the 1940’s, or how much time he spent pontificating on Y2K lol.
As far as a HECs suit stop and think about it. Game cameras put off a higher electrical magnetic field than a human does yet deer and turkeys parade around in front of them all the time?? Why is that , does everyone have a tiny HECS suit for there cameras lol.
The whole thing boils down to hunting abilities there not for sale you can’t borrow them you have to learn them. The fact that a lot of companies are getting rich promiseing gullible people they could be a hunter if they bought such and such item is sad. Get off the couch or lab table and go learn to hunt
Did not mean to "ruffle your feathers." My advice to you, if you are successful, keep doing what you are doing to be successful.
I simply pointed out that science points to the fact that birds can see wavelengths in the UV spectrum, and that color-brightening detergents tend to increase the amount of UV reflectance off our clothing, and "I choose" to use detergents which do not have color-brightening properties...
Take that information and do what you want with it... Utilize it, ignore it, or investigate it...
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You don’t need to write scientific papers or spend time staring thru a microscope to know if any of this is a scam or not. It’s called spending time in the woods lol. I’ve spent most of my life in the outdoors. I don’t need a infomercial to tell me I need such and such item to get close to game. I’ve been doing it my entire life. I’ve killed hundreds of deer with a longbow or recurve at 20 yards or less I’ve had deer close enough to touch multiple times. This turkey season I had two Gobblers come in at 5 feet in full strut for couple minutes until I could get a shot. If I was gullible and had bought one of these items I’d have probably also contributed my success to the scam. If you spend enough time in the woods and learn woodsmanship you will have plenty of close encounters with game animals.
As far as the UV scam if you’ve ever hunted without using the special detergent and have not had problems killing what more proof do you need. Do you really believe more animals would have been killed if you’d used the right washing detergent lol.
Gobblenut has been around A LONG time I’d be interested in hearing what learned opinions he had in the 1970’s when NASA scientists were writing papers about the global cooling trend that had been building since the 1940’s, or how much time he spent pontificating on Y2K lol.
As far as a HECs suit stop and think about it. Game cameras put off a higher electrical magnetic field than a human does yet deer and turkeys parade around in front of them all the time?? Why is that , does everyone have a tiny HECS suit for there cameras lol.
The whole thing boils down to hunting abilities there not for sale you can’t borrow them you have to learn them. The fact that a lot of companies are getting rich promiseing gullible people they could be a hunter if they bought such and such item is sad. Get off the couch or lab table and go learn to hunt
Did not mean to "ruffle your feathers." My advice to you, if you are successful, keep doing what you are doing to be successful.
I simply pointed out that science points to the fact that birds can see wavelengths in the UV spectrum, and that color-brightening detergents tend to increase the amount of UV reflectance off our clothing, and "I choose" to use detergents which do not have color-brightening properties...
Take that information and do what you want with it... Utilize it, ignore it, or investigate it...
I don’t have feathers to ruffle. You and Gobblenut seem to be the ones ruffled I think it’s funny and a little sad you think a detergent is going to help you hunt. What I think some of you are getting confused about is that a scientist may have found that a bird sees the UV spectrum NO ONE has ever proved it alerts them. It’s not a scientist that is selling you special detergent lol. Same with the other scams carbon does absorb odors but it cannot contain scent in clothing. Lots of things might have an electromagnet field but you don’t need a suit to hide from an animal. I wonder how many of you gullible people buy into everything at once you’d spend all your time trying to wash your Hecs suit or activate it or whatever. None of it really matters because clearly we will all be burned up in this global warming apocalypse lol. PT Barnum would be proud
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I don’t have feathers to ruffle. You and Gobblenut seem to be the ones ruffled I think it’s funny and a little sad you think a detergent is going to help you hunt. What I think some of you are getting confused about is that a scientist may have found that a bird sees the UV spectrum NO ONE has ever proved it alerts them. It’s not a scientist that is selling you special detergent lol. Same with the other scams carbon does absorb odors but it cannot contain scent in clothing. Lots of things might have an electromagnet field but you don’t need a suit to hide from an animal. I wonder how many of you gullible people buy into everything at once you’d spend all your time trying to wash your Hecs suit or activate it or whatever. None of it really matters because clearly we will all be burned up in this global warming apocalypse lol. PT Barnum would be proud
I don't know anything about "electromagnetic fields," or how it affects (or does not) wild life... I do not recall mentioning global warming either???
I have killed birds wearing a white tee-shirt... I'd rather wear something that blends in a bit better and allows me a little room for error on subtle movements... And, as I hunt far more waterfowl (in high-pressure areas), I am far more concerned about concealment when hunting waterfowl, as I feel they are far more sensitive to approaching that which is not "natural." But, knowing that turkeys have very good vision, and I do not hunt from a blind, I make some attempt towards concealment when hunting them as well.
Good luck to you, and I sincerely wish you continued success on and off the field....
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Just like turkey hunting, reading comprehension, diplomacy and the ability to have a civil conversation are apparently concepts that some folks just have a hard time grasping....
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Oh well,...we just carry on and try to ignore it........but damn, it's hard sometimes.... ;D
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I don't know anything about "electromagnetic fields," or how it affects (or does not) wild life... I do not recall mentioning global warming either???
Yea never said you did unfortunately everything is not about you lol. It was a blanket statement for those that really believe in global warming, or Hecs suits or UV brightners . For you not to understand that statement you’d have to have read only your comments and parts of mine and none of the others .....weird?
It’s really just a difference of opinion. I don’t use special soap I have no problem killing animals, you did a book report on photoreceptors in fish and now believe birds are scared of UV brightners. If you’d have started a thread about the soap I doubt I would have read it, but you commented on a thread about camo saying UV soap was more important than the pattern. I say this is a scam much like several others aimed at hunters. Then as always you have a couple of half baked opinions offered by people with zero facts to back it up. Hope this clears up the confusion.
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Personally i have never worried about Uv brighteners. Bought some scent lock or whatever it's called way back in the day and figured out that deer could still smell me so that ended that. In my opinion there is no substitute for just good old fashioned hunting skills but that's just my opinion. Now if someone could invent some deer repellant turkey hunting clothing so that when a group of 4 bucks catches your wind they just walk away and don't come even closer doing the whole snort, headbob, and stomp, then run through the flock of turkeys that was slowly working their way towards me then I would be first in line. Not like I have just recently had that happen or anything. Also old man on a 4 wheeler repellant. He came through about 45 minutes after the deer. Just when the turkeys where calming back down.
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A few years ago, I started carrying a 6' length of plastic cut-out camo screening/netting to which I attached a small bamboo pole to each end as well as to the center. I place this in front of me which blocks the turkey from seeing anything that goes on behind it, whether it's hand movement with friction calls, changing calls, rummaging through my fanny pack, etc. Just a week ago it was necessary for me to switch from shooting from my right shoulder to my left in order to take a 22# gobbler, a movement that might not have been possible had the screen not been there. The screen is easily made, very light weight, easily carried under the arm, and the turkeys never seem to notice it. I don't leave home without it!
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don't get caught up on camo, it's more about movement and just being in a well hidden place. This goes for any game really. drab earth tone colors in solid, plaid, etc will get the job done and you will save money to spend on more tags and boolets
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Cheap camo works just as well as those 400 dollar outfits. I go for comfort.Not all my stuff matches.
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All I know is you can kill (insert target animal here) on a 6+ day backpack hunt w no shower, smelling like a Marlboro, wearing any earth tone costume that may or may not have been washed in the past year if you have confidence that comes from experience with a dash of patience and the ability of sitting still.
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All I know is you can kill (insert target animal here) on a 6+ day backpack hunt w no shower, smelling like a Marlboro, wearing any earth tone costume that may or may not have been washed in the past year if you have confidence that comes from experience with a dash of patience and the ability of sitting still.
I agree.Movement, and picking the right spot to set up are key.
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AS LONG AS YOUR USEING ANY THING THATS MOSSY OAK WILL DO THATS ALL I USE AND KILL TURKEYS EVERY YEAR …..
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I know this post is old and after reading through it I thought I might have something to add. A few years back my brother and I bought some white coveralls to bow hunt deer in the snow. We hunted a management area where stands could not be left overnight. We hunted from the ground. As he was walking down the road from me to get to his spot on an overcast maybe even snowing condition I could see a blue hue emitting from him. He was a good couple hundred yards from me and the lighting conditions where very dim. Needless to say I kept getting busted by incoming deer. The suit only lasted about 3 days before I stopped using it.
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Haven't read all the replies but my thoughts on camo are thus. The only thing I'm concerned about is contrast, not pattern. If I'm in realtree, bottomland, or whatever darker camo and the only tree I can set up on is a beech I could be in trouble. Contrast and no movement is where it's at...with great emphasis on the movement. For what it's worth I still generally wear the old WWII Woodland. Have yet to find a turkey that objects!!
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I've been reading and there have been several mentions of switching up camo late season.
Currently I run full MO Bottomland. Should I be concerned if I'm just going to be up against a tree or some blowdown? I've always focused on movement vs camo pattern.
I hunt in N. AL thick woods with several trees to sit. My season is 30 MAR-30 APR.
Is it more of having something else in your tool box for when its needed?
Your great grandfather killed turkeys in his daily work cloths. Probably a plaid shirt and dungarees. Maybe a work jacket. He killed deer, turkeys, squirrels what ever. He had to kill to eat.
Camo helps but being still and in the right place well hidden matters more.
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Been Turkey hunting since the late 1960's. Wore dungarees, flannel shirt and brown barn coat for years. Never had a problem killing turkeys. Finally got a pair of camo pant and shirt in the mid 80's. No difference in my success while wearing either outfit.