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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: RED NECK on March 30, 2019, 07:25:41 PM
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I have a chance to add the 10 gauge Bps NWTF to my collection tomorrow as there is one for sale local for a decent price and in excellent shape with a few boxes of goose ammo and a few of turkey shells,along with three chokes.I had a 10 ga bps stalker and still have a box of ammo here for it.My favorite turkey gun ever built is my 12 gauge bps NWTF 3.5" that I own.I think this gun will complete my thirst for turkey gun collection if It is in as good a shape as it looks.
I am confident I will be coming home with it and can't wait to pattern it.If all goes well,I am taking it opening morning this year.
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My favorite 10 ga. Had one a few years ago with turkeys engraved on side and geese on the other. Regret it everyday that I sold it. Heavy gun but makes shooting these 2.5 oz turkey loads managable.
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I’d get it
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Post a picture of it if you get it. I had a BPS 10g. years ago and still to this day it was the hardest kicking gun Ive ever had and i have a bunch...If it weren't for that I would still have it. Goodluck I hope it's in great shape.
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Awesome gun!’ I love mine! The gun shoots great. I run a .720 rhino and shoot nitro 4,5,7 and apex tss 9. The patterns are awesome. I don’t think the gun kicks as bad as a 3.5 12 and I weigh 167 lbs. I think you will love the gun!!!
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I had one about a decade ago, it was the best patterning factory gun that I have had. I had a Pure Gold choke in mine. However, it was hands down the hardest kicking Turkey gun I have owned, and I have 5 different 10ga Turkey guns.
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I am leaving in about 30 minutes to go look it over,It is about a 45 minute drive.We have had rain for 36 hours,there is 4" of water in my basement and it turned to snow overnight an there is a good 4-5" of fresh snow.The weather is enough to make you want to vomit.The "kick" does not bother me as I am a bigger guy and have never had any issues handling it,also never felt it when pulling the trigger on a tom.The gun is basically going to be half price of buying it new,and a sling with 4 boxes of ammo helps out.I believe it has a turkey choke with it,I am not planning on putting any more coin into it this year so I do hope it patterns good with the choke and ammo I will have for it.
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I just got home,I ended up buying the gun.He was originally asking $800.00 Canadian for gun with 4 boxes of ammo,2 boxes of turkey shells and two of goose shells,a sling and three chokes.I got everything for $700,I tried to get it for lower but he was firm at $700.The gun is in mint shape and I fired it at his farm as well.That gun new would run me $1300 Canadian without a sling or ammo.I will post a picture here shortly.
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I just got home,I ended up buying the gun.He was originally asking $800.00 Canadian for gun with 4 boxes of ammo,2 boxes of turkey shells and two of goose shells,a sling and three chokes.I got everything for $700,I tried to get it for lower but he was firm at $700.The gun is in mint shape and I fired it at his farm as well.That gun new would run me $1300 Canadian without a sling or ammo.I will post a picture here shortly.
Congrats on a nice grab!. I have a hard time believing others saying it's the hardest kicking gun they shot. It's a pump yes but weighs over 3 lbs more then 90% of 12 gauges out there. My SBE2 was downright vicious in comparison to my 10. A recoil calculator doesn't tell the whole story but see for yourself what a difference 3lbs makes
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Pretty happy with my purchase,as I have been looking for the hr 10 gauge single shot for about 5 years,this purchase ended that search.The gun is a 9.9-10,there is a small scuff on the stock and you can barely notice it.He purchased this new and took it goose hunting twice and it has been a safe queen for years.I believe this gun to be a 2009-2010 from the camo finish on it as it has the same break up as my 12 gauge 3.5 and I bought it in 2011.
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hard to get good pictures on this forum,here is a few others.
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I attached the tri viz sight and screwed the extra full turkey choke in and can't wait to put some shells through the gun this week or next weekend.
I have two boxes of Winchester supreme in #4 2 oz that came with the gun and one box of Remington Magnum #4 2 1/4 oz that I purchased for my bps stalker in 2010.Let the fun begin.
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Nice find. I had one a few years back. Never hunted with it and traded it off for something, can't even remember what, but I wish I had not. Let us know how she does.
Ridge Rooster
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I spoke with the shop I buy most of my turkey chokes and shells from and they can bring me in Federal Grand slam in a #4 or #5 and the Winchester Double XX in either #4 or #5 2 oz
I am tempted to have them bring me in a box each of the 4 and 5 for both shells to try out along with what I already have,I do not mind spending the money but I am intrigued to see if one shell will pattern a lot better than any other with the browning extra full turkey choke.The worst I can see is the shells I have pattern better,oh well.You can never have to many shells.
Any of you have a preference?The price is more than reasonable for the shells,the Winchesters are 3 dollars more a box but all are under $30.00 which is not common.
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Congrats on your new gun, looks really nice! I have a bps 10 hunter 26" i bought awhile back to replace one i foolishly sold. My first one i bought new in 1990 or 91, it was the engraved version with nice wood and 26" barrel. I have had the recent one set up for turkey and used it for a few seasons, but i have since swapped it back for goose hunting. It is a terrific gun for the layout blind. If i ever run across a 24" barrel at a decent price i would probably get it and start using it for turkey again. I did a lot of patterning and it shot well with several different chokes and loads. I think those new grand slams are going to pattern pretty good. Good luck with your new gun, and keep us informed of your testing if you can.
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I have a box of the #4 & #5 Grand slams from federal on the way.They should be here later this week.I want to try and get out this weekend,the thing is the wind is insane here and is going to be blowing like crazy for the next week.
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The grand slam ammo will be in Thursday and I have some gun/barrel decals on the way.I am taking 7 guns and patterning them Saturday unless It is raining.
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I did some research and sent an email,I found out from Browning the extra full turkey choke that comes with the gun is
"Briley manufactures our choke tubes. The inside diameter of the 10ga extra full tube is 0.697"
and I located this choke locally to maybe try as well,
Carlson's Long beard in either .705 or .680 constriction.
I am driving right by there tomorrow morning and may stop and buy it,I am not quite sure which constriction to get.I will be sticking with lead 4 or 5 for this gun.I am not even sure if I even need to get a new choke yet,as I am sure the Briley will do fine out to 40 yards...wink..wink......
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I just got home,I ended up buying the gun.He was originally asking $800.00 Canadian for gun with 4 boxes of ammo,2 boxes of turkey shells and two of goose shells,a sling and three chokes.I got everything for $700,I tried to get it for lower but he was firm at $700.The gun is in mint shape and I fired it at his farm as well.That gun new would run me $1300 Canadian without a sling or ammo.I will post a picture here shortly.
Congrats on a nice grab!. I have a hard time believing others saying it's the hardest kicking gun they shot. It's a pump yes but weighs over 3 lbs more then 90% of 12 gauges out there. My SBE2 was downright vicious in comparison to my 10. A recoil calculator doesn't tell the whole story but see for yourself what a difference 3lbs makes
That's what I traded mine for in the early 90's was a SBE(still have it)...No comparison in the recoil department. I could shoot 3 ,3.5 inch shells one after the other and still had my fillings left in my teeth... :icon_thumright:
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Stopped by and checked out the chokes,he has the .680 and the .705 in stock.I have to go back up through that way Friday,so I wanted to do a little more digging on which one to get.I am leaning towards the .680 as It is a tighter restriction but without any hands on testing I am just guessing.I see it this way,I have a .697 already and the .705 is closer than the .680 in constriction,this choke will set me back $100 after taxes.
He also has the same ammo I bought in 2010 other than It has went up from 19.99 a box to 27.99 a box for the identical shells.
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I picked up the Grand slam shells today,I may wait and pattern this gun Saturday with xtra full turkey Briley .697 before I buy another choke.I have 4 types of ammo to test.
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I stopped in and picked up the .680 longbeard xr Carlson choke today and am going to pattern some guns tomorrow.
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After I patterned 3 20 gauges,I stepped back to 40 yards and touched off 3 shells,all # 4's,one Winchester supreme,one Remington premiere and one Federal grand slam out of the .680 choke.The Remington and Winchester were awesome,nothing left of Tommies head but the Federal was half as good,I was not overly Impressed.I then fired 1 more of the Remington and Winchester 4's at a longer yardage to see how much my patterns opened up and It was kind of interesting to see the difference and how much the pattern opened up.The gun is a solid 40 yard gun...wink..wink.I will pattern the #5's next time.
I don't see this as a every day turkey gun as I like my 12 gauge way too much but I am happy with my purchase and the recoil isn't that bad,or is it? :popcorn: I would never hunt geese with a 10 gauge,ever.
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Thanks for the update on the shells you shot THK. After seeing the 12 and 20 gauge grandslams do well i had high hopes for the 10 gauge loads. I might still give them a whirl just for giggles. Goose hunting with a 10 isn't bad as you would think. Heavier clothing helps, and steel shot loads recoil a bit less than full house lead turkey shells.
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I wish I could find that 10 around here for sale.
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I am going to pattern the 5"s this weekend with extra full turkey choke it came with and the longbeard .680 I purchased and I got my barrel decals today and got them on.I wish they made a Winchester long beard xr shell for the 10 gauge or a tss shell.
I like the gun and will use it occasionally going forward,I have lots of options and this is another good one.It feels like a cannon after shouldering and shooting my 20's and even my bps 12 gauges.
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Apex loads tss in 10 gauge, they are unbelievable!!!!!!
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Apex loads tss in 10 gauge, they are unbelievable!!!!!!
Thank you.I never even thought of Apex as I can't recall ever seeing it around up here but I am going to find out.
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I like it,It is catchy and I can't say It is original as I read it on here awhile ago but I find it fits the gun accordingly.
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I like it,It is catchy and I can't say It is original as I read it on here awhile ago but I find it fits the gun accordingly.
Two weeks till opening day and hoping I can get this pic....
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Sweet gun! I've been wanting one of them for a while too!
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I hunted with this gun opening day and then carried others but I went and purchased a little Bushnell trs 25 and am going to install it later this afternoon and pattern it/dial it in later today and carry it this weekend.
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I went and patterned the gun with the red dot an hour ago,I was planing on trying everything I had in the arsenal but,with it ready to thunderstorm and starting to rain fairly hard I stuck with the #4's,It took me two shells to get the red dot dialed in,I used #4 federal grand slams,was about 8" inches low and 6" to the left at 30 yards,I adjusted and fired another at 30 yards and it was about 1.5" to the right but dead on target.
I then adjusted a tad and went back to 40 yards and fired 1 Federal Grand slam #4 and 1 Remington premiere #4,I didn't fire any more as I was more then happy with what i seen and it was starting to downpour.The difference is night and day from the tri viz sights.I did adjust a little after the tow shots at 40 yards,here they are,2nd one is Federal Grand slam #4,1st is the Remington Premiere #4.
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I am going to shoot the Federal Grand slam #4's for this year.
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Not trying to be a JO. But thats a 10g pattern? They are lousy. I shoot 2 3/4" 4's out of a few 12g and have way more hits then that. I expected something totally different from that. I mean its going to kill the bird but not worth the extra weight to me.
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I don't think its any better than average myself,compared to what for what the 20's and 12's do I own,but I like hunting with my guns and the bird is going to die the same way.I have over 20 shotguns and want to at least get them out for a few hunts.I like the feel of the gun,It is heavy but it is a Browning and I like it.
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I totally respect that. I to like to take different guns out. I was just expecting this pattern to knock my socks off and then i see a pattern that the 20g guys are getting.
It is a cool gun and I would buy one myself if I had the opportunity.
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Soon as I can find different types of ammo I plan on trying it.I can only shoot as high as #7's and have never found any or any tss in a #7 yet for 10 gauge,not even a long beard xr in a 10 gauge,that would be incredible,all I use for my 12 gauges.
I also have numerous boxes of #5's for it but I am confident in the #4's to 40 yards.I am not overly impressed with the $93.00 I spent on the .680 longbeard xr choke,I could have killed the bird with the briley stock extra full turkey choke,oh well.
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I took the gun for a hunt this morning,17 jakes in two different little gangs,3 hens and the two toms with 3 other hens.Toms went other way and jakes didn't want to gobble on the ground,must be getting the spurs from Tommy.
I then had a few minutes mid morning and patterned the gun with the Briley extra full turkey choke that comes with gun with the Grand slam #4's at 40 yards,I liked this pattern better and will use this choke and shell combo until I find something I like better.
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Pretty happy with my purchase,as I have been looking for the hr 10 gauge single shot for about 5 years,this purchase ended that search.The gun is a 9.9-10,there is a small scuff on the stock and you can barely notice it.He purchased this new and took it goose hunting twice and it has been a safe queen for years.I believe this gun to be a 2009-2010 from the camo finish on it as it has the same break up as my 12 gauge 3.5 and I bought it in 2011.
Great find! 10’s are in a league all by themselves! :camohat:
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Buy the Apex shells.
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The apex shells are not legal to hunt with where I am so until they are,I couldn't be bothered to waste my energy or time trying to find them.
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My best friend and hunting partner has the blued walnut version and is VERY concerned on how few companies are still making 10ga turkey shells and only Remington he claims makes a 2.25oz load of #4 shot. So concerned was he that he just ordered enough of the 10ga Remington 2.25oz #4 shot to last him the rest of his turkey hunting days.
I am a bit of a gun junky and the ONLY thing that stops me from buying a 10ga is the lack of dedicated turkey hunting shell selection, that and the fact Winchester doesn't make their AWESOME Long Beard XR's in 10ga.
I just came across a mint condition SP10 at a good price, but passed on it due to IMHO poor 10ga turkey shell selection.
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I'm guessing they would be rather pricey but I'd be interested to see how a 10ga would pattern with 2.25-2.5oz of #7 TSS.
The reason so many people claim the 835 Ultimag patterns so well is because it's actually much closer to a 10ga than a 12 and as a result the patterns of 2.25oz shot aren't squeezed to tight and suffer less fliers, or so I've been told.
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They definitely do not cater to 10 gauge turkey hunters like they do for 20 and 12 gauge owners and I get it,The 10 gauge is outdated with the ammo choices for the lighter smaller gauges,however they will still do all I need them to do with their average at best shells and average "numbers" count at 40 yards.I would like to see some #7' tss be released as #7's are legal here.I wouldn't hold my breath and I am just taking the boat anchor for another hunt today.I like the gun even with its average numbers game,boat anchor weight and nobody wants to produce a good shell for it.Oh well.Just another gun.
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It’s to bad you have trouble getting ammunition because, the nitro ammunition and tss is unreal and makes the 10 gauge a completely different gun with unbelievable patterns and numbers!!!!
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That hunt lasted about 10 minutes,we had hunted another spot for the morning and the birds were there but went another way,I had 20 gauge with me.We were heading to other spot and I decided to stop at home and grab the 10 gauge.I was set up for maybe 5 minutes,my father was set up on other side of massive corn field over a hill,I hear him call,a tom answer a few times,I waited and about 8 minutes later he dumped his first bird with #7 tss 20 gauge shells,25 yard shot,finally the birds are starting to come to call and he walked right in and got shot.20 lbs 01 oz,10" beard and 1" spurs he was alone and looking for love.
The last 9 days should be good as the first 28 have been cold,raining every day and extreme winds.Weird year weather wise,coldest spring in 52 years.If it is the end of the world I just want to enjoy the last 9 days of turkey season.
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I carry 2 different 10 gauges a lot, an auto and a single barrel. Look in the 10 ga forum here and you will see them. I started off shooting same ammo you are trying now a long time ago. If you think your patterns are "AVERAGE" , I was shooting some federal 2 oz 5's and they were the worst patterning shell I have ever seen anywhere in any gauge with any choke at any distance period. I bought them on clearance at Rogers for .73 cents each shipped to my door and I got screwed as they are worthless. I only shoot armadillos and snakes with them now. However, if you are willing to take the plunge cost wise and load or buy TSS you will be in the big leagues. 400-500 hits in a 10 inch circle at 40 is easy with TSS 9 , and 250-300 with TSS7 if that is all you can shoot. You will realize you have been spinning your wheels with any kind of lead or copper plated shot commercially available. Also, a .695 -.720 choke is usually better from my experience. I am an old school 10 gauge guy, but I know guys with 12's and 20's that will shoot almost as good as a 10!
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Those patterns will drop any turkey alive at 40 yards that I will ever hunt,I as anybody else want more pellets but I don't worry about counting them either..I still may try other lead ammo after season to test.If i can locate tss that I am able to use legally,I will buy it,I have not found any and don't believe I will up here but I hope I do.I don't plan on reloading for the gun.I am not spending more money on different chokes for this gun shooting lead shells.I don't like it that much.
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I just had the gun with me an hour ago and had 8 jakes walk by at 20 yards.I don't shoot jakes ever but boy was I itching to set the trigger off and hear the boom!...but 8 jakes turn into 8 toms!
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I found one small shop about an hour and a half away that can bring in hevi shot mag blend 10 gauge.This is the email I received this morning from them,I have never dealt with them because they never have anything in stock that I need or want but I have heard good things about the man.
I am hesitant because without testing a pack,or even 2 shells.I am throwing all my cards on the table without knowing my hand.I have seen where these pattern very well and I believe they will definitely be an upgrade from the lead shells.I either go in on this gun or maybe leave it alone and hunt with it as is.If they pattern better than the lead,even if I need to purchase another choke.I am willing to spend the money as I will have enough shells for a decade.
"Good morning,
I spoke with my distributor and they can order it.
You will need to order at least five boxes at a price of $55.95 per box(5 shells in a box) paid in full before order is placed and it should be in by September.
If you want to place the order, let me know soonest."
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I found one small shop about an hour and a half away that can bring in hevi shot mag blend 10 gauge.This is the email I received this morning from them,I have never dealt with them because they never have anything in stock that I need or want but I have heard good things about the man.
I am hesitant because without testing a pack,or even 2 shells.I am throwing all my cards on the table without knowing my hand.I have seen where these pattern very well and I believe they will definitely be an upgrade from the lead shells.I either go in on this gun or maybe leave it alone and hunt with it as is.If they pattern better than the lead,even if I need to purchase another choke.I am willing to spend the money as I will have enough shells for a decade.
"Good morning,
I spoke with my distributor and they can order it.
You will need to order at least five boxes at a price of $55.95 per box(5 shells in a box) paid in full before order is placed and it should be in by September.
If you want to place the order, let me know soonest."
They are basically guaranteed to pattern better. I killed a few birds a couple years back with Federal lead and it did ok with a Hastings choke. I bummed 2 magblends and shot one to pattern and one at a tom out of the same choke. Night and day difference.
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55.95 for 5 shells is highway robbery. If you want a sampler pack of a few 10 g mag blends and a few 10 ga Fed Heavyweight 7's pm me and I will fix you up cheap.
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I also have a bunch of #4 buckshot and copper plated BB shells if you want some of them to try also, as well as 1 nitro 4x5x7 hevishot
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Spoke with the man and he informed me the distributor would only bring them in if I purchased 5 boxes.I thought it over and decided to pass on that deal and will keep looking.I can buy a new gun for the price he wanted me to spend on shells.I didn't like the idea of being told I "had" to spend so much money,I am going to mess around more with it with a few chokes,maybe with less constriction and see what happens.I also plan on using it as a goose gun,so If nothing else I have found a new goose gun.
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I sent out some feelers last night to some other shops about ammunition and different chokes.I thought about it,stewed about it for a week now and I bought this gun to turkey hunt and my goal is to get this gun up to what I want and if that means spending another few hundred on chokes,shells or even equipment to reload then I am going to do it.I wanted a 10 ga for a decade,found it and actually like the feel of the gun.I am making it a priority this summer to get it shooting better than it is now.