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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: RED NECK on February 06, 2019, 04:05:26 PM
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I just purchased the little pistol grip sxp 20 gauge in moob camo,I was debating on building another 20 gauge for this spring but this one felt great and shouldered perfect....I had to get them to bring in the obsession pattern as the one I shouldered was the mobu finish.The gun will be there by the 18th or 19th of February and I will be picking the 21st or 22nd.I was 50/50 on buying a new turkey gun as I have been constantly buying or building them for years and had it narrowed down to three that I was interested in,this was always the #1 choice but was limited locally,I finally found one and can't wait to pattern it,I will be shooting lb #6's and hevi shot #6 until I can find #7's locally.
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I am going to have them order me in either 3-4 packs of the Federal heavyweight 3" 1 1/2 tss #7's in as well to test from this gun.I am now figuring out which optics I will install,I am probably going with a reflex sight I have on three others,as they have been 100% perfect and they are light,easy to mount and dial in,and they have the reticles I prefer.Then all I have to purchase is a new sling for the new gun.
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I got looking through my ammo,and I forgot that I had federal 3rd degree 5,6,7's I plan on testing that from this gun before I order any more ammo,I also still have 3 packs of hevi #6's and want to see how the ammo I have patterns with the new gun and briley choke it comes with,If I can get a decent "hunting" pattern at 40 yards then I may stick with something I already have in the arsenal.I watched some reviews on the 3rd degree and it was outstanding at 40 yards from an sxp,I am definitely going to be testing it out. and it is half the price as others,I also have tons of longbeard #6's if I wanted to shoot them from this gun,I am already shooting it from another 20 gauge I have.
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Good deal. Be sure to post some pics up after you pattern it.
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I was shooting LB #6 and Trulock .570 in my sxp patterned very well. My only complaint with that gun
It has a very heavy trigger pull. Gunsmith can take care of that. And the overall mass weight very heavy. Good luck with your build.
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I had them bring me in 1 pack of the federal tss #7 for me to test out of this gun and also my tc encore 20 gauge,If I think it is worth buying more,I will have them bring me more in.I may try and find a primos tight wad for it as well to have,It shoots most shells very well from what I have seen,and It throws great patterns from my rem 20 gauge compact build.
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Since I want to try and change it up a little from my other 20 gauges,I was reading up and thinking of putting a Simmons pro diamond on this new setup,4x32.If I do not like It I will go with the reflex sight I really like.I like a longer barrel and I like a gun that isn't light as a feather,my biggest issue with my rem 870 compact is it is almost to light and short, for myself.I am having an issue figuring out which weaver base I need for this sxp,I can't seem to find it on their chart,I picked up the base for a Winchester 1300 to see if it will fit.
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I have received a message,my gun should be there this Wednesday,I am planning on picking it up Thursday if the weather co operates.I also had them bring me in a box of the federal tss #7 to test out,If It patterns better than lb #6 at 40-50 yards then I will have them bring me in more boxes.
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If weather permits,I am taking this gun out this coming weekend and getting a few rounds through it.I am sticking with a reflex sight,I really like the ones I used last spring and they are light and hold up very well to 12 gauge 3.5" long beards.I would pick it up on Wednesday except we are getting a severe winter storm and we are getting 45-50 cm of snow starting tomorrow,I am hoping it is blown over by Thursday,if not I will not be able to go get gun until weekend.
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HBK, I'll be interested in how you gun shoots. I just shot mine this past weekend and was less then enthused with the Briley choke designed for it. I shot lbxr #6 & #5 @ 30yds. Patterns not that tight and Briley said the choke constriction is .540 which is REALLY tite imho. I think it was blowing-out the patterns !!! I ordered an ICBDS @ .555 to give a try with the lbxr's.
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I thought it was a .570?I will shoot it with a handful of different shells,If I am not happy with any of the shells at 40 yards,then I will do some research and pick up another choke to test out.
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HBK, I'll be interested in how you gun shoots. I just shot mine this past weekend and was less then enthused with the Briley choke designed for it. I shot lbxr #6 & #5 @ 30yds. Patterns not that tight and Briley said the choke constriction is .540 which is REALLY tite imho. I think it was blowing-out the patterns !!! I ordered an ICBDS @ .555 to give a try with the lbxr's.
I just got this gun as well and I ordered an Indian Creek .555. I plan on shooting handloaded TSS 9. I will be interested to see how your gun shoots.
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the reflex sight just arrived,I have everything ready to mount on the gun this Thursday,as long as weather permits.
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I am heading down to pick the gun up and get some breakfast,I am glad the weather has passed and the clean up almost over,after 35 cm of snow and blistering winds for 36 hours.
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The gun is home and I am super happy with it.I will post some pics up later today.I can't wait to fling a few shells.
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here is the gun and some ammo,the 5 boxes of mag blends will be here today,and the long beard #6's sometime in the next few weeks.
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hevi mag blends arrived.
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I decided to paint the base and the reflex sight to blend it in with camo on gun.A few pictures of pre paint,and after first coat when it is still wet.I let it sit until tomorrow evening and see what It looks like then and touch it up as I go.
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after first coat when still wet.
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I figured I would check it before work,and the base is done and dry,I added some paint to sight in the spots where I didn't paint it last night.It will be dry when I get home tonight at 11 and I will get them back on gun and hopefully get out sometime this weekend or soon to fire some lead.
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I put the base and reflex sight back on last night after work,I was hoping to get out and fire a few rounds but it is -23 and 43 mph wind today.So I am heading shopping and may pick up a new sling for it.
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I purchased a realtree apg camo claw sling this morning for gun and a few other small turkey items.
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Which sight is that?
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Which sight is that?
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That is a 25 dollar chinese reflex sight,I am not sure the name as I have 5 of them with two different names on them.I am impressed with them,they hold up well to 3.5" 12 gauge Winchester longbeard # 5's.I shot both my toms last year with one on my browning bps 12 gauge with the 3.5" lb #5's.I bought mine from amazon.ca.
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I believe I am heading out in the am to fire some shells through the new gun.I plan on getting the sight dialed in with 7.5"s and then firing a few tss and hevi,along with lb #6's to see what patterns the best at 40 yards.If I am happy with the hevi and lb at 40 yards I am not sure I will buy more tss as I have enough of the lb and hevi to do what I need.
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I just got home from firing a few rounds and the gun is excellent and very happy with it,I took reflex sight off after 1 round as the sun was out and I could barely see the circle,that was enough to turn me off and put me back to fiber optic sights,I fired 2 7.5 at 20 yards and poi was excellent,then fired 1-long beard 6 at 40 yards,1-hevi shot 6 at 40 yards and 1-Federal tss 7 at 40 yards.I was not happy with any of the pellet counts at 40 yards.I had 7 in the neck and head at 40 with the long beard,12 with the hevi 6 and 18 with the tss.I may start checking out other chokes to try out.I thought it would be a lot better with all 3 shells.It may be a few things but was a little disappointed with the "count" and I am not a numbers man and just figured I would have more in the bird than I did....time to test another choke.
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I tried my SXP yesterday. It shoots very good with tss #9's and a Carlson's .585 extended choke. Very even pattern at 40 yards. You will want the reflex sight at 25 yards.
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I don't need or want the reflex sight on the gun,never needed them before and don't need them now,I prefer fiber optic sights and i am not able to shoot 9's.The federal tss didn't wow me,not to mention one of the 5 shells was half full,obviously messed up at the plant and not put together correctly.I ordered two more boxes.I plan on buying a different choke to try.Optics are very much overrated on a shotgun from my perspective,I have shot fiber optics and a few years ago tried reflex...i am not sold..they are ok,good for low light but are useless in the middle of the day and I just don't need them to kill birds.Personal preference.
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I am planning on making a trip to bass pro either next weekend or the one after it and am leaning towards the Indian creek black diamond in .555 if it is there,If not I will see what they have in a similar constriction.I t may not have been just the choke today but I wanted to try another one out anyway.I am not sure when I will get back out to patterning,our season does not open for two months and 3 days yet.
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Midway has the IC on sale for 55.00 with free shipping over 49.00
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Thank you,I do not believe Midway will ship a choke to Ontario.If I can't find it at Bass pro,I will order through Indian creek.I really like the gun but am not impressed with the choke it comes with at all.
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I decided to mount a scope for this year,I shouldered it with reflex sights,fiber sights and a scope with the different configurations of cheek pieces and stock lop pieces and decided to go with a scope.I had a 4x32 Bushnell circle plex in the box of extra's,So I spent half an hour and wrapped it in realtree xtra green today and mounted it on the gun.
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I purchased the primos tightwad .570 for the gun,I tried to find an ic .555 but bass pro up here does not have it and ic never emailed me back for 5 days.I am going to a gun show tomorrow,maybe I will find another choke but I am pretty sure the tightwad will do what I need,It seems to shoot most ammo very well out of most 20 gauges,and I have a ton of different ammo choices to test.
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Should give William at SumToy a ring!
He will work with you to get you what you want with the Ammo you're shooting
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I have been stockpiling ammo for a year,I really have no idea what ammo I will be shooting out of this gun yet.I have spent over 500 dollars on ammo the last month,trying to stockpile it, for all my 20 gauges,just ordered 3 more boxes of long beard #6 today with the choke.I have to place one more order for 5 boxes of mag blend and one last order for 3-4 boxes of hevi 6's and I need to pick the boxes of tss I purchased up yet.I am trying to hoard it,just in case I cant find it up here,which would be a real headache after buying all the guns.In my area,they are starting to bring a bit of the good 20 gauge ammo in,after I have been explaining that the old lead loads are a thing of the past.
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I have been stockpiling ammo for a year,I really have no idea what ammo I will be shooting out of this gun yet.I have spent over 500 dollars on ammo the last month,trying to stockpile it, for all my 20 gauges,just ordered 3 more boxes of long beard #6 today with the choke.I have to place one more order for 5 boxes of mag blend and one last order for 3-4 boxes of hevi 6's and I need to pick the boxes of tss I purchased up yet.I am trying to hoard it,just in case I cant find it up here,which would be a real headache after buying all the guns.In my area,they are starting to bring a bit of the good 20 gauge ammo in,after I have been explaining that the old lead loads are a thing of the past.
Hevi shot #6 did not do well out of both the .565 trulock and the .570 Rob Roberts in both my 870 (21 and 26 inch barrels). I’m interested to see how the mag blends do for you. I thought about trying some but at $25 a box, would rather plunge into TSS
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the mag blends are dynamite from my tc encore 20 ga single shot,that's why i bought them.I will have enough for a decade.
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the mag blends are dynamite from my tc encore 20 ga single shot,that's why i bought them.I will have enough for a decade.
Is that with the .570 tightwad? Have any pics or numbers you remember at 35-40 yards?
I’m still considering trying a box for the heck of it. So the 5,6,7 hevi blend is comparable to 4,5,6 lead?
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the mag blends shoot amazing out of the tc with the stock turkey choke and I believe It was around 35-40 pellets in the head and neck.I don't really count numbers and take pictures of my targets as I am not a numbers guy,just a hunter looking for the pattern I prefer at 40 yards with a shell,choke and gun combo.I also had great pattern at 40 yards with lb #6 with the long beard Carlson choke .568 from the same gun.
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The tightwad choke and the 3 boxes of long beard #6's arrived.I am hoping the weather is nice and I can get out near end of march to pattern some of my guns and decide which ammo from which gun for the spring.
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THK.....any updates sir? I will be setting up my SXP 20 ga in a week or so.....I am following your thread with great interest. Thank you for your efforts so far! :OGturkeyhead:
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I havent been out or had any time,hopefully this weekend I will pattern a few guns.
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Roger that!
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as for getting out and patterning the 4 guns I may use this spring,the weather forecast for my days off are not very friendly with extremely high winds and buckets of rain.I am hoping that april 6th in the afternoon is the day I get out and get them patterned.Our season opens april 25th,I have lots of time.I would hope the winds will die down but the last few weeks have been windy and we are still getting snow and have two feet of snow on ground yet.
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I am going for a tour today to spend some money,maybe.I am looking for a choke with at least a .560 or tighter constriction for this gun,maybe a few other items.I may buy another scope to try out if I find the one I want.
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I stopped by the shop where I but most of my scopes and chokes and he has a shipment that will be in this week and he has some .565 constriction chokes on it.I may try one,as both mine are .570.I did purchase a new scope for the gun,I went with a 1.75-4x32 Bushnell trophy xlt in realtree ap with circle plex and some flip up butler creek caps.
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I mounted the scope this afternoon and used the higher cheek piece.
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I just ordered the .555 from Indian creek,I hope to have it for next weekend but I have a handful of others to pattern and will pattern them before this gun.I thought it over and decided It was worth the little bit more money and maybe an extra week to get the exact choke I want for this gun.After the gun,sling,scope,rings,two extra chokes and ammo.I am in more than I figured I would be for this gun but If the gun patterns like I believe it will,I should have a great little setup.
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The .555 Indian creek arrived today,It is just in time as I am heading out to pattern my guns tomorrow.
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I wish I would have kept the target from 40 yards with the #7 tss and the .555 Indian creek choke.I fired 12 shots in total,I shot 7.5" to get scope dialed in and then it took me 3 tss shells to get it perfect at 40 yards.The thing I noticed is how bad the trigger pull is on this gun.I have never had a trigger as stiff and heavy as this one ever,I was shocked.My father fired it and said,wow.That isn't normal that is horrible.I am interested in getting it lightened by,15 lbs...It really was that bad.I really didn't notice it the first time I fired gun a few times a month ago but I did today.
I like this gun but the trigger is horrid.
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Dropping the gun off tomorrow evening and will have it back by weekend and a decent trigger.
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I have one and found a combo of choke and TSS I am 100% thrilled with from 9-8-7/12 (9 in KY, 8 in Iowa and 7 1/2 in Indiana). All three TSS pellet types are perfect hunting patterns. I must have a good model bc the trigger is perfect for me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190409/abee74a68d40c5a4429b8c8b5bca9ed4.jpg)
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40 yards. Those are both 7 1/2 TSS.
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I have never had a trigger as heavy as this one,It's flat out horrible and I am not overly concerned with trigger pull ever but this is not normal from my 39 years experience on earth and 50 some shotguns.
I think the gun is a really nice gun,and as soon as trigger is normal I will be happy and ready to use it,at this point,I would not hunt with it.I would be afraid I would pull the shot to far right or left.It is that bad.
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Well, You know it is a horrible trigger when the gunsmith in his late 50's says "Holy S...T ,how old is this gun?This must be an 11 lbs trigger.lol...
All joking aside,I dropped it off and he couldn't believe how heavy it was,I should have it back in a few days,time to shoot it again for the weekend.
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Well, You know it is a horrible trigger when the gunsmith in his late 50's says "Holy S...T ,how old is this gun?This must be an 11 lbs trigger.lol...
All joking aside,I dropped it off and he couldn't believe how heavy it was,I should have it back in a few days,time to shoot it again for the weekend.
Let us know!!!
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I have one and found a combo of choke and TSS I am 100% thrilled with from 9-8-7/12 (9 in KY, 8 in Iowa and 7 1/2 in Indiana). All three TSS pellet types are perfect hunting patterns. I must have a good model bc the trigger is perfect for me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190409/abee74a68d40c5a4429b8c8b5bca9ed4.jpg)
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40 yards. Those are both 7 1/2 TSS.
What choke are you running?
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I have one and found a combo of choke and TSS I am 100% thrilled with from 9-8-7/12 (9 in KY, 8 in Iowa and 7 1/2 in Indiana). All three TSS pellet types are perfect hunting patterns. I must have a good model bc the trigger is perfect for me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190409/abee74a68d40c5a4429b8c8b5bca9ed4.jpg)
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40 yards. Those are both 7 1/2 TSS.
What choke are you running?
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Primos TW .570
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I will have my gun back Thursday and I have been debating on buying a higher end little reflex/red dot for it.I was going to buy another 20 gauge but have decided that the ones I have are enough for now,until next winter.I am between the vortex venom,nikon spur and burris fastfire.
I am leaning towards the vortex venom because of a few options,warranty and the brightness settings.I just want to make sure I will not run out of room and have to start shimming it,as for what It will cost to buy,that seems ghetto.
Which do you prefer?
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I must've gotten a good one, because the trigger on mine is pretty good. Its actually very crisp for a shotgun without doing anything to it.
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I must've gotten a good one, because the trigger on mine is pretty good. Its actually very crisp for a shotgun without doing anything to it.
Mine is a piece of garbage,to be polite about it.I should have it back in a few days as my friend will be home tomorrow to finish the trigger.I am a little put off with the gun,never should have been let out of the factory with that bad of a trigger pull.I do like the gun and it patterns extremely well with the setup I went with.
I have never had an issue with a new gun before and was not expecting it to be with a shotgun,but It's all getting worked out and be ready for opener on the 25th,even though I am not taking it.
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I'm totally satisfied with my trigger !! It has a thin "pubic hair" of creep ,then tite and a crisp break.
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I just bought this gun. The trigger is horrible. I thought I had let the safety on. It will be going to the gunsmith.
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I just bought this gun. The trigger is horrible. I thought I had let the safety on. It will be going to the gunsmith.
I should have mine back tomorrow evening.I just got back from talking to my friend about the insides,he said they are all plastic and cheap parts.I already knew it was just a beater up turkey gun.He has it apart and is doing the work tomorrow,he said it was the worst pos trigger and parts he has seen.I hope to carry it a bit next week.As long as it goes boom and the trigger pull is fixed.I am happy.
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Mine seems very inconsistent. The trigger feels ok sometimes while other it is like pulling a boat anchor.
On a better note it patterned good. I got 345 in a 10" circle, 40 yards, using Federal TSS #9 Carlson .568
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I just went and picked up my gun,I was expecting it back a few days ago but things come up and he got busy,I am more than happy with the trigger,it seems crisp and normal now.It cost me a hundred dollars and was quicker and easier than dealing with browning/winchester customer service.I have heard wait times of over a year for parts/new trigger.
I already had it dialed in and patterned but I did take scope off when I dropped it off with him,so after the winter storm and 20 mm of rain end I will go and double check it all and make sure i am dialed in again 110%,I believe It won't take very much at all,like maybe 1-2 shells.
I may stick it out this year with the scope but I am looking into adding the vortex venom for next spring on this gun.
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I plan on carrying the gun most of the next week or so,after the storm we are finally supposed to get nice weather for a week or so.
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I have spent some time today oiling the gun and I took all the spacers out on the stock and find It fits me even better,I also decided to keep it as light as possible and put a reflex sight on it instead of the scope.I am going to get out tomorrow evening after,or should I say in between storms and get it dialed in and patterned and ready for the weekend.I feel a lot better with the trigger being done and am excited again to enjoy hunting with the setup.
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I am definitely going to get out later this evening to dial in and pattern the gun again.The trigger is night and day better than it was from factory.I also find it a lot better fit with both spacers out of stock and with just a little reflex sight mounted,very light and mobile.I will be adding the vortex venom on this gun in the future.
I am going to pattern a handful of shells but will be shooting the Federal #7 Tss from this gun,I want to see how a few other shells pattern at 40 yards.
Setup is....
-Winchester sxp longbeard 20 gauge-Mossy oak obsession
- .555 Indian Creek choke
-Reflex sight on weaver base.
-The Claw sling (Realtree Apg)
-Federal Tss #7
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I went up and patterned the gun again,I did have to slightly adjust the scope to the left and up a tad.I patterned hevi 6,mag blends and the tss #7,The mag blends were outstanding at the distance i shot them at,I may just use them as well.The tss was amazing as well.The hevi 6 was ok,40 yard pattern at best.I didn't bother with the reflex sight,I figure I already spent the money on the scope,might as well use it this season.I will have a vortex venom for next spring on this gun.
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I thought it over a little and figured that,with the complete downpour today,I have time to take the scope off and re dial in this evening with reflex sight and with the mag blends patterning as well as they did.I am going to pattern them again and shoot them from this gun,I can get them for 55% less than the Tss #7 and already have 5 boxes,I will order another 10 of them the next month to stock pile and keep the Tss # 7's for my tc encore single shot.The gun feels heavy and clunky with the scope mounted but light and mobile with reflex sight,that is why I want to change it up.
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Took everything off,put the little screws back on and plan on shooting the fiber optics for this year.The gun is so much lighter and better feeling without the big scope on it,The difference in feel is amazing as I love the feel of a scope on my tc encore 20 gauge and do not plan on changing that setup but on this gun it feels heavy and clunky.
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I patterned it with just fiber optics Friday afternoon and hunted with gun on Saturday,no chance I am putting anything on this gun,It feels so much better with just the fiber optics,light and easier to carry,not to mention.Deadly.
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After buying a Bushnell trs for another 20 gauge,I had to get one for this gun,I went and picked it up today and mounted it,I will dial it in on weekend or early next week.I still need to buy one more Bushnell trs 25 for my tc encore,but that is for next season.Great little red dot and adds hardly any weight.
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I brought the longbeard out of the safe today,I just ordered a new red dot for this gun as I am using the trs 25 on another gun.I will get this out when new sight arrives and dial it in and pattern it.I am sure I will get it out for a few hunts this year.
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Post again when you pattern it. I’d love to see. I’m praying the range is open this weekend like I’ve been hearing so I can pattern mine again. Put a Sumtoy .562 and sig Romeo 5 red dot on it. Figured it was tiny so it’ll be super light. This corona is hammering my area so nothing is has been open except gun stores, pet stores, and food basically
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I have been away in the bush for a few days getting my bear baits up and going.I spent a lot of time patterning this gun with the fiber optics,as I am waiting for a little red dot to use on it.I threaded in a primos tite wad and all I can say is.....wow.
I shot all these types of ammo at 40 yards,I did save the sheets/targets but they are still up at my camp and I didn't get a chance to take pictures,I will and I also shot gun at distances we don't speak of.I will be happy to email you pics of the best three patterns at 40 and..
Hands down the Hevi #6,Mag blend 5,6,7 and the one that really really impressed me was the Federal 3rd degree 5,6,7 "new flitecontrol flex wad works in all chokes"
I also shot a handful of other loads that I wouldn't trust past 30-35,the Winchester longbeard #6's were another strong performer at 40 yards.Any of those 4 shells at 40 yards and he is dead.
That gun impressed me,I was turned off after buying it and it having a shitty trigger but It is definitely a awesome patterning little gun.
I am going to find a few more boxes of the Fed 3rd degree and I am stocked on mag blends with 11 boxes and still have 3 of the hevi #6's.
I should have little red dot this week and get it mounted and sighted in,still have 10 days to season.This gun will get it's turn It will be 3rd on the rotation instead of 4-5th.
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I had some time after treeing some birds tonight to grab my targets that I shot last week with this gun,I shot all these with the fiber optics.I have mounted a reflex sight and am dialing it in tomorrow evening,I am planning on shooting the Federal 3rd degree 5,6,7. I would not hesitate to shoot any of these either.I am very happy with the way this gun patterns and shoots.
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