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Title: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 01, 2018, 06:03:05 AM
Starting to like this Argentine Lignum Vitae (verawood). It sounds and turns great with a natural camo color.

(http://a66.tinypic.com/308lbf9.jpg)
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: gergg on December 01, 2018, 06:21:05 AM
Looks nice....I like Verawood/ALV too, it is so much easier to work with than Genuine Lignum Vitae.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 01, 2018, 10:11:46 PM
 It is easy to turn and doesn't crack and check.  I have a board of genuine LV coming tomorrow, so I guess I will find out what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: gergg on December 02, 2018, 06:24:53 AM
Quote from: Scpossum on December 01, 2018, 10:11:46 PM
It is easy to turn and doesn't crack and check.  I have a board of genuine LV coming tomorrow, so I guess I will find out what you are talking about.

The Genuine Lignum I have is very old/dry/hard stuff, and it is by far the worst wood I have worked with. I had to sharpen my tools multiple times throughout the turning and went super slow. I do have lots of twists/turns in my trumpet design which seemed to cause issues for me, so hopefully you won't run into any difficulties.,,,,Good luck and take care....Greg
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: antnye on December 02, 2018, 07:52:01 AM
 One word fellers. Carbide.

Nice looking horn!
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: outdoors on December 02, 2018, 08:31:35 AM
Lignum makes for a really good call
Right gergg
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: gergg on December 02, 2018, 08:48:09 AM
Quote from: antnye on December 02, 2018, 07:52:01 AM
One word fellers. Carbide.

Nice looking horn!

Yeah, carbide is in my future, HSS works fine on everything else so I have procrastinated.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: gergg on December 02, 2018, 08:53:55 AM
Quote from: outdoors on December 02, 2018, 08:31:35 AM
Lignum makes for a really good call
Right gergg
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Yes it does  ;D
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 02, 2018, 09:51:19 AM
You are correct about carbide!  Nice tools to work with. Cannot believe I didn't switch over before now.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: davisd9 on December 02, 2018, 10:17:55 PM
Nice looking call


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Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: EZ on December 04, 2018, 06:32:11 AM
Love that traditional look.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 04, 2018, 07:59:19 AM
Thanks for all the kind comments. Here is an example of the color change. In the middle is one of my personal trumpets out of Arg. LVitae that has aged and the strikers are genuine Lignum turned the past couple of days. Light brown to dark green. The striker on the left has already started to darken after one day.

(http://a64.tinypic.com/2i9t92t.jpg)
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Sir-diealot on December 04, 2018, 08:31:22 AM
Looks quite nice.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Chris O on December 04, 2018, 01:10:14 PM
I like the looks of that wood especially after a little aging.You build some nice looking calls.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: savduck on December 04, 2018, 08:23:56 PM
History lesson. Lignum Vitae is the hardest wood on the hardness scale.

It is commonly used as bearings. The US used it in bearing in World War II boats as supplies dwindled. The wood had a natural oil that lubricated itself. After the war several engineers took stats from the wear that the bearings took compared to steel bearing. They almost didn't have any wear. It is still highly sought out  as bearings. Many of the boats we're decommissioned and their lignum bearings salvaged. Many of those bearing are still being sold

There is a guy up north that has a warehouse full of real old growth lignum blocks and bearings. It takes for ever to dry. He has just a little for turning stock, it's been sitting on a shelf drying since the like 1952.

It makes an awesome trumpet.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Sir-diealot on December 04, 2018, 10:03:55 PM
Quote from: savduck on December 04, 2018, 08:23:56 PM
History lesson. Lignum Vitae is the hardest wood on the hardness scale.

It is commonly used as bearings. The US used it in bearing in World War II boats as supplies dwindled. The wood had a natural oil that lubricated itself. After the war several engineers took stats from the wear that the bearings took compared to steel bearing. They almost didn't have any wear. It is still highly sought out  as bearings. Many of the boats we're decommissioned and their lignum bearings salvaged. Many of those bearing are still being sold

There is a guy up north that has a warehouse full of real old growth lignum blocks and bearings. It takes for ever to dry. He has just a little for turning stock, it's been sitting on a shelf drying since the like 1952.

It makes an awesome trumpet.
That's real neat, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 04, 2018, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: Chris O on December 04, 2018, 01:10:14 PM
I like the looks of that wood especially after a little aging.You build some nice looking calls.

Thanks. Just got back in it this past summer. Took some time off when the children were growing and I lost my shop when we moved. Then my son pulls the lathe out last May and asked what it was. Had to show him.  ;D
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 04, 2018, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: savduck on December 04, 2018, 08:23:56 PM
History lesson. Lignum Vitae is the hardest wood on the hardness scale.

It is commonly used as bearings. The US used it in bearing in World War II boats as supplies dwindled. The wood had a natural oil that lubricated itself. After the war several engineers took stats from the wear that the bearings took compared to steel bearing. They almost didn't have any wear. It is still highly sought out  as bearings. Many of the boats we're decommissioned and their lignum bearings salvaged. Many of those bearing are still being sold

There is a guy up north that has a warehouse full of real old growth lignum blocks and bearings. It takes for ever to dry. He has just a little for turning stock, it's been sitting on a shelf drying since the like 1952.

It makes an awesome trumpet.

I agree, good info. Wish I could get in that warehouse!
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Chris O on December 06, 2018, 07:54:49 PM
Quote from: Scpossum on December 04, 2018, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: Chris O on December 04, 2018, 01:10:14 PM
I like the looks of that wood especially after a little aging.You build some nice looking calls.

Thanks. Just got back in it this past summer. Took some time off when the children were growing and I lost my shop when we moved. Then my son pulls the lathe out last May and asked what it was. Had to show him.  ;D
Nice glad you got back into it you better start teaching your son how to turn those pretty calls!
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 07, 2018, 06:30:11 PM
He has started strikers and tubes.  He found a market for these pens and it is hard to get lathe time now!  Think I need a second lathe.

(http://a63.tinypic.com/330eqfm.jpg)
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Chris O on December 07, 2018, 08:47:41 PM
Nice looking pens as well!!!!
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: Scpossum on December 07, 2018, 11:29:35 PM
Thanks, Chris. I will tell him. He is almost 15 and is doing really well.  He has even taught me a few things.  :)
Title: Re: Argentine Lignum Vitae x Juma
Post by: outdoors on December 08, 2018, 07:19:52 AM
Quote from: Chris O on December 07, 2018, 08:47:41 PM
Nice looking pens as well!!!!
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