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Title: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: strutnva on June 10, 2018, 07:21:04 PM
I have an opportunity to buy one, not sure if I will keep it or sell it.  What do you think is a reasonable price for one?
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: 10gaugemag on June 10, 2018, 10:41:00 PM
Only you can decide what it's worth. Some guys are paying a premium for the Bottomland guns but personally I wouldn't give over $350 for one.

It's still an 870 no matter the camo pattern it wears but they do seem to go higher than other patterns.

A bud had one of the first ones around in about '90 or '91, a painted or dipped wood stocked model in Original Bottomland, good looking gun for sure.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: mrlongbeard on June 11, 2018, 01:21:47 PM
Original Bottomland came out i 1992. An 870 in great shape with sling would go for $650-$750
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: ShootingABN! on June 12, 2018, 08:55:22 AM
Who knows???

Current production SuperMag has bottomland under $500. For a 3" If it was mint I'd give $200.... ;)

Good luck.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: mrlongbeard on June 12, 2018, 12:01:57 PM
 :TooFunny:
Who knows???

Current production SuperMag has bottomland under $500. For a 3" If it was mint I'd give $200.... ;)

Good luck.
If you can find one for $200 I’d be shocked. Old School Remingtons are going for crazy money.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: ShootingABN! on June 12, 2018, 02:06:55 PM
Someone may give crazy money.... I'm not looking for one. I've got a 90's express..... Spray painted.... Its an 870..... To each there own... If its a collectors item never fired????

Good luck with your purchase. ;)


:TooFunny:
Who knows???

Current production SuperMag has bottomland under $500. For a 3" If it was mint I'd give $200.... ;)

Good luck.
If you can find one for $200 I’d be shocked. Old School Remingtons are going for crazy money.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: ShootingABN! on June 12, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya. ;)
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: mrlongbeard on June 13, 2018, 09:10:02 AM
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya. ;)
We are talking Old School Remingtons . Special Purpose guns not the newer Express line. Big difference
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: Turkeytider on June 13, 2018, 10:31:46 AM
This is interesting. What constitutes " Old School " when it comes to 870`s ? This season I picked up ( and killed a bird with ) a pre-owned 870 Super Mag SP-T Thumbhole Mossy Oak Obsession, I think, with a red dot. My research seems to indicate that particular model was produced from `05-`07. Would that be " Old School "?  Regardless, it`s a helluva gun. It`s like a steel block, solid, with a tight action.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: ShootingABN! on June 13, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
I'm tracking what you're saying.. I really wouldn't know the difference if "SP" or Express was not engraved in the side... To each there own. ;)


https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya. ;)
We are talking Old School Remingtons . Special Purpose guns not the newer Express line. Big difference
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: 10gaugemag on June 13, 2018, 07:15:08 PM
I'm tracking what you're saying.. I really wouldn't know the difference if "SP" or Express was not engraved in the side... To each there own. ;)


https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya. ;)
We are talking Old School Remingtons . Special Purpose guns not the newer Express line. Big difference
Only difference in the original Special Purpose and Express was the SP had a walnut stock and Express were birch. A buddy had a few Expresses in the shop in late '90s that were walnut.

 If I am not mistaking the Express were out before the SP line of guns, at least in 870, not sure when walnut stocked SP 11-87 came out. Late 80s-91 or so I am thinking.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: mrlongbeard on June 14, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
This is interesting. What constitutes " Old School " when it comes to 870`s ? This season I picked up ( and killed a bird with ) a pre-owned 870 Super Mag SP-T Thumbhole Mossy Oak Obsession, I think, with a red dot. My research seems to indicate that particular model was produced from `05-`07. Would that be " Old School "?  Regardless, it`s a helluva gun. It`s like a steel block, solid, with a tight action.
Most consider Old School as far as camo goes 1992-1996. Those were the first camo patterns Turkey guns were dipped in.
Brown Treebark 1992 Nwtf gun of the year
Mossy Oak Original Bottomland 1992-1996
Mossy Oak Greenleaf 1993-1996
Alot of guys myself included consider shotguns from as far back as the 50’s through the 80’s Old School too.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: mrlongbeard on June 14, 2018, 09:13:12 PM
I'm tracking what you're saying.. I really wouldn't know the difference if "SP" or Express was not engraved in the side... To each there own. ;)


https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya.
Huge difference between express and special purpose guns. SP have better quality parts internals are polished better fit and finish. More hands on work and qc go into them. World of difference.
We are talking Old School Remingtons . Special Purpose guns not the newer Express line. Big difference
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: ShootingABN! on June 14, 2018, 10:07:55 PM
This is interesting. What constitutes " Old School " when it comes to 870`s ? This season I picked up ( and killed a bird with ) a pre-owned 870 Super Mag SP-T Thumbhole Mossy Oak Obsession, I think, with a red dot. My research seems to indicate that particular model was produced from `05-`07. Would that be " Old School "?  Regardless, it`s a helluva gun. It`s like a steel block, solid, with a tight action.
Most consider Old School as far as camo goes 1992-1996. Those were the first camo patterns Turkey guns were dipped in.
Brown Treebark 1992 Nwtf gun of the year
Mossy Oak Original Bottomland 1992-1996
Mossy Oak Greenleaf 1993-1996
Alot of guys myself included consider shotguns from as far back as the 50’s through the 80’s Old School too.

My Express goes back to 92 ;) It was a matte finish.... Then camo tape,,,, Then spray paint... Ole school. Thanks for sharing the info.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: turkeyinstrut on June 15, 2018, 03:00:43 PM
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya. ;)
We are talking Old School Remingtons . Special Purpose guns not the newer Express line. Big difference

Agree, HUGE difference.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: turkeyinstrut on June 15, 2018, 03:10:55 PM
This is interesting. What constitutes " Old School " when it comes to 870`s ? This season I picked up ( and killed a bird with ) a pre-owned 870 Super Mag SP-T Thumbhole Mossy Oak Obsession, I think, with a red dot. My research seems to indicate that particular model was produced from `05-`07. Would that be " Old School "?  Regardless, it`s a helluva gun. It`s like a steel block, solid, with a tight action.

I have the same gun but with a regular stock and vent rib barrel, I think the "Old School" guns that people are referring to are the 3" guns made in the 90's that had Realtree, Bottomland or Greenleaf camo on them, the 870's and 11-87's of that era are far better quality than the junk that Remington builds today. Anything that has "Special Purpose" on the receiver is in that category and the ones that say "Sportsman" on them are best left alone, JMHO.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: turkeyinstrut on June 15, 2018, 03:15:19 PM
I'm tracking what you're saying.. I really wouldn't know the difference if "SP" or Express was not engraved in the side... To each there own. ;)


https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya. ;)
We are talking Old School Remingtons . Special Purpose guns not the newer Express line. Big difference
Only difference in the original Special Purpose and Express was the SP had a walnut stock and Express were birch. A buddy had a few Expresses in the shop in late '90s that were walnut.

 If I am not mistaking the Express were out before the SP line of guns, at least in 870, not sure when walnut stocked SP 11-87 came out. Late 80s-91 or so I am thinking.

The 11-87's were introduced in 1987, hence 11-87 just like Remington's 11-48 was born in 1948.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: 10gaugemag on June 15, 2018, 06:08:07 PM
I'm tracking what you're saying.. I really wouldn't know the difference if "SP" or Express was not engraved in the side... To each there own. ;)


https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=remington%20bottomland

Local gun shop could get these all day long..... Just saying.... No matter what you get good luck to ya. ;)
We are talking Old School Remingtons . Special Purpose guns not the newer Express line. Big difference
Only difference in the original Special Purpose and Express was the SP had a walnut stock and Express were birch. A buddy had a few Expresses in the shop in late '90s that were walnut.

 If I am not mistaking the Express were out before the SP line of guns, at least in 870, not sure when walnut stocked SP 11-87 came out. Late 80s-91 or so I am thinking.

The 11-87's were introduced in 1987, hence 11-87 just like Remington's 11-48 was born in 1948.
I know when the 11-87 came out just wasn't sure if the Special Purpose was introduced in '87 or a year or two later.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: 10gaugemag on June 15, 2018, 06:19:16 PM
This is interesting. What constitutes " Old School " when it comes to 870`s ? This season I picked up ( and killed a bird with ) a pre-owned 870 Super Mag SP-T Thumbhole Mossy Oak Obsession, I think, with a red dot. My research seems to indicate that particular model was produced from `05-`07. Would that be " Old School "?  Regardless, it`s a helluva gun. It`s like a steel block, solid, with a tight action.

I have the same gun but with a regular stock and vent rib barrel, I think the "Old School" guns that people are referring to are the 3" guns made in the 90's that had Realtree, Bottomland or Greenleaf camo on them, the 870's and 11-87's of that era are far better quality than the junk that Remington builds today. Anything that has "Special Purpose" on the receiver is in that category and the ones that say "Sportsman" on them are best left alone, JMHO.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/remington-history/remington-timeline-1987-remington-model-11-87-autoloading-shotguns/

This should clear up any confusion. as to what people think of the SP series of guns. Looks like you either had a Premier, SP or SPS. Even the camo guns will say Special Purpose on receiver.

 I would give a left nut to have one of the first 11-87 Special Purpose guns. They had a damn fine matte finished walnut stock.


Here's another on 870 series of guns. First 870 Special Purpose was in 1985.

https://www.remingtonsociety.org/collecting-870-shotguns/


 Remington even had 1100 Special Purpose guns for a short while. Only ran on to 2 of these in shops, should have grabbed the last one a bud had in his shop. Was rather minty and only $350.
Title: Re: What's a Bottomland 870 worth?
Post by: Turkeytider on June 17, 2018, 04:15:46 PM
This is interesting. What constitutes " Old School " when it comes to 870`s ? This season I picked up ( and killed a bird with ) a pre-owned 870 Super Mag SP-T Thumbhole Mossy Oak Obsession, I think, with a red dot. My research seems to indicate that particular model was produced from `05-`07. Would that be " Old School "?  Regardless, it`s a helluva gun. It`s like a steel block, solid, with a tight action.

I have the same gun but with a regular stock and vent rib barrel, I think the "Old School" guns that people are referring to are the 3" guns made in the 90's that had Realtree, Bottomland or Greenleaf camo on them, the 870's and 11-87's of that era are far better quality than the junk that Remington builds today. Anything that has "Special Purpose" on the receiver is in that category and the ones that say "Sportsman" on them are best left alone, JMHO.


My 870 Super Mag Thumbhole has " Super Magnum " on one side of the receiver and " Special Purpose " on the other. The forearm is a very distinctive, sort of blocky shape that really fills the hand. It weighs a tad over 8 lbs., so pretty substantial. It really feels solid.