Playing with some mouth calls earlier today. How do I sound. By the time I got to the second call my mouth was drying out on me. How do my purrs sound? Any advise on getting a decent cluck other than saying "Pluck" My under bite makes it so that does not work for me. Thanks.
https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/primos-double-diamond-mouth-call
https://soundcloud.com/user-933394494/primos-diamond-yelper-brown-one
Before I move ahead, I am by no means a good mouth caller.
What really helped me increase in my confidence a while back was to open and close my lips on every note and pressurize air between my body's diaphragm muscle and the surface of my tongue where it touches the call reed. Watch a hen turkey call. Her beak pronounces every single note and her body will heave and twitch slighty. I also like to watch Doug Adkins videos at Cane Creek calls. They way he clucks really helped me out.
Quote from: BTH on April 03, 2018, 10:19:32 AM
Before I move ahead, I am by no means a good mouth caller.
What really helped me increase in my confidence a while back was to open and close my lips on every note and pressurize air between my body's diaphragm muscle and the surface of my tongue where it touches the call reed. Watch a hen turkey call. Her beak pronounces every single note and her body will heave and twitch slighty. I also like to watch Doug Adkins videos at Cane Creek calls. They way he clucks really helped me out.
Okay thanks, I do try to watch as many of those as I can, though I have not watched his yet. I have had to learn to adapt a little because of the underbite, I can't use the front of my tongue or I just kinda whistle as my underbite puts my tongue so far forward of the call. I kind of turn my tongue to the right and use the left side of it to get any sound at all.
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uPXoGEZeYg
Quote from: SteelerFan on April 04, 2018, 07:28:57 PM
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uPXoGEZeYg
Added it to my list with the wing bone videos I am also trying to learn from. Thanks fellow STEELERS fan.
I`m not an expert either, question-what cuts are you trying? Loosten up & relax ur mouth & move you mouth each note. Ur getting sound so now its just practice. I learned many years ago when driving around i always had a call with me. Keep at it & it will come, Mike
Quote from: mspaci on April 06, 2018, 09:55:43 PM
I`m not an expert either, question-what cuts are you trying? Loosten up & relax ur mouth & move you mouth each note. Ur getting sound so now its just practice. I learned many years ago when driving around i always had a call with me. Keep at it & it will come, Mike
Thanks Mike, I could use all the advise I can get.
I agree with Mike. Once you get where you can make "turkey-like" sounds (which you are already doing), it is all about practicing until you have complete control over your airflow, and the corresponding "mechanics" in your mouth to achieve the desired sounds.
Once you have achieved a level of proficiency in airflow and mouth mechanics, the next step is to determine what call design you should be using to achieve the final sounds you want to be able to make. That process often involves a lot of experimentation with different call designs, and if you are buying individual calls for that, it can get expensive.
One word of advice...until you have your basic mechanics and air control mastered, stick with the less-expensive calls. For individuals that have not mastered the basics, buying expensive mouth calls is just throwing your money away.
Get easier to use calls
Quote from: davisd9 on May 02, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
Get easier to use calls
Great point,...and for beginners, that usually means a double reed call (sometimes triple) that is made from thin to medium latex material. Unfortunately, call makers often do not tell you what thickness of latex is used in a particular call. Those of us with lots of experience can generally "eyeball" a mouth call and make a determination, but that's usually not so easy for beginners.
Quote from: davisd9 on May 02, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
Get easier to use calls
The Primos calls that I have are the easiest I have found so far. I have tried H.S. Strut, Quaker Boy (The worse of the lot) Primos and some others that I can't recall. I did buy some others recently but they felt very thick in my mouth (the entire call, not just reeds) and that was the major problem I had with the Quaker Boy calls though at least I am getting some more decent sound out of these which I never did with the Quaker Boy calls.
At 13:33 this mentions a call package that is supposed to help you determine the best style of calls for you, I am going to pick this up but right now it is going to have to wait until after the season because of cash flow problems (Putting it all in the gas tank to go hunting :) ) I have a couple of things to finish out here then I won't be buying anything else until at least June which is after our season here in NY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uPXoGEZeYg&t=811s&list=PLbF6qMoJbTLzkdmzIrqSSxeTkJKKmXVg8&index=7
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 02, 2018, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on May 02, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
Get easier to use calls
The Primos calls that I have are the easiest I have found so far. I have tried H.S. Strut, Quaker Boy (The worse of the lot) Primos and some others that I can't recall. I did buy some others recently but they felt very thick in my mouth (the entire call, not just reeds) and that was the major problem I had with the Quaker Boy calls though at least I am getting some more decent sound out of these which I never did with the Quaker Boy calls.
At 13:33 this mentions a call package that is supposed to help you determine the best style of calls for you, I am going to pick this up but right now it is going to have to wait until after the season because of cash flow problems (Putting it all in the gas tank to go hunting :) ) I have a couple of things to finish out here then I won't be buying anything else until at least June which is after our season here in NY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uPXoGEZeYg&t=811s&list=PLbF6qMoJbTLzkdmzIrqSSxeTkJKKmXVg8&index=7
So did you get the pack? Which cut are you going with?
Quote from: ShootingABN! on February 19, 2019, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 02, 2018, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on May 02, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
Get easier to use calls
The Primos calls that I have are the easiest I have found so far. I have tried H.S. Strut, Quaker Boy (The worse of the lot) Primos and some others that I can't recall. I did buy some others recently but they felt very thick in my mouth (the entire call, not just reeds) and that was the major problem I had with the Quaker Boy calls though at least I am getting some more decent sound out of these which I never did with the Quaker Boy calls.
At 13:33 this mentions a call package that is supposed to help you determine the best style of calls for you, I am going to pick this up but right now it is going to have to wait until after the season because of cash flow problems (Putting it all in the gas tank to go hunting :) ) I have a couple of things to finish out here then I won't be buying anything else until at least June which is after our season here in NY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uPXoGEZeYg&t=811s&list=PLbF6qMoJbTLzkdmzIrqSSxeTkJKKmXVg8&index=7
So did you get the pack? Which cut are you going with?
No, I had lost the information on it but somebody pointed it out on a thread this past week so I will buy it when I get paid again.
Well I was going to go ahead and order it now but 9.00 shipping for 4 mouth calls seems rather stiff, anybody happen to have a promo code from them that may save me a few bucks? Thanks.
Well I just ordered it, hope it helps.
I'm not a professional by any means, but I've found that finding the right call that fits your mouth makes a huge difference. I tried several before I found a call I could actually make sound like a turkey.
Quote from: limbhanger777 on February 25, 2019, 09:05:58 AM
I'm not a professional by any means, but I've found that finding the right call that fits your mouth makes a huge difference. I tried several before I found a call I could actually make sound like a turkey.
I found that Quaker Boy were the worst for me, they felt so thick in my mouth. I bought some from another seller here, same thick feeling. Not his products problem,
my problem, read others posting on him and he turns out a quality product.
Quote from: limbhanger777 on February 25, 2019, 09:05:58 AM
I'm not a professional by any means, but I've found that finding the right call that fits your mouth makes a huge difference. I tried several before I found a call I could actually make sound like a turkey.
Lot of good advice on here. I would especially pay attention to the you tube videos. I really like Scott Ellis sound files as he will teach good habits as will most competition callers.
I personally started mouth calling when there was not a large section of calls available and certainly no you tube. My teacher was an old farmer (well he's old now, LOL) he taught me how to deer hunt and call turkeys. You really only need a couple of calls to be successful turkey hunting but it is fun learning as many as possible. I think the most important thing, after finding the right call) is practice, practice and more practice. You will also find that what you learn will stick with you year after year. Just my 2 cents
Quote from: mtns2hunt on March 11, 2019, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: limbhanger777 on February 25, 2019, 09:05:58 AM
I'm not a professional by any means, but I've found that finding the right call that fits your mouth makes a huge difference. I tried several before I found a call I could actually make sound like a turkey.
Lot of good advice on here. I would especially pay attention to the you tube videos. I really like Scott Ellis sound files as he will teach good habits as will most competition callers.
I personally started mouth calling when there was not a large section of calls available and certainly no you tube. My teacher was an old farmer (well he's old now, LOL) he taught me how to deer hunt and call turkeys. You really only need a couple of calls to be successful turkey hunting but it is fun learning as many as possible. I think the most important thing, after finding the right call) is practice, practice and more practice. You will also find that what you learn will stick with you year after year. Just my 2 cents
Thank you for the advise. I bought the mouth call mechanics set and did as stated in the video but ran into a problem, when he tells you how to check to see how your tongue pressure is to find out which one you need I could not do that, my underbite made it so that when I tried to get my mouth open even a little bit my tongue was completely away from it when it got to where I could see it. It did show me that one of them are completely out for me though, I can't do anything with it but there are two I like how I sound with them in. I know one that worked was the center cut one and the other I do not remember. Here is the link to the set if anybody would like to get it. https://www.callingallturkeys.com/mouthcallmechanics
I think your yelps are killer when yougo from high to rasp. Your purrs on on the aggressive side like a fighting purr as others have stated relax and try to as light of pressure as possible. Im not sure how the underbite effects call position.For your purrs try incorporating more lips.For clucks the word pluck never work for me but tuk does.
Quote from: Ctrize on March 17, 2019, 11:12:46 PM
I think your yelps are killer when yougo from high to rasp. Your purrs on on the aggressive side like a fighting purr as others have stated relax and try to as light of pressure as possible. Im not sure how the underbite effects call position.For your purrs try incorporating more lips.For clucks the word pluck never work for me but tuk does.
Thank you for the comment. I have a hard time with the lip flutter and an incredibly hard time with doing it with my tongue (Purrs) I kinda vibrate my uvula and have been doing it that way but I do agree it comes out more aggressive than I would like. I picked up the mouth call mechanics set and there are two in that that I am very comfortable with, I could not see how it positions in my mouth though, when I opened my mouth wide enough to see the tongue position my tongue would be completely away from the call because of the under bite. I will make a recording when I am feeling a bit better.