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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Terry on June 03, 2017, 08:32:35 AM

Title: Looking for a new pump
Post by: Terry on June 03, 2017, 08:32:35 AM
I am going to get a new 12 gauge pump before next season. I have had some issues with Remington in the past and would like to stay away from them. Reliability and problem free use is most important to me. What do you guys reccomend? I am leaning towards the BPS because of Brownings reputation for a step above in the quality department.

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Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: Prohunter3509 on June 03, 2017, 08:40:11 AM
 :happy0064:
Just had dealing with browning on my bps
He'll they replaced the gun
Hard to beat that
Dura touch was sticky it was an 05 nwtf
They kept it a little longer than they should have and replaced it with a new one . I don't care what part of the country you from that's service lol
Can't beat it
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: DUCKDIGGLER on June 03, 2017, 09:44:59 AM
Browning has $100 rebate on BPS shotguns right now...... just sayin!  :blob10:

Google it!
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: allaboutshooting on June 03, 2017, 10:48:23 AM
I own and shoot a number of pump shotguns, including Benelli, Browning, Mossberg, Remington and Winchester. Frankly, they are all good guns just different in some respects. I don't see the Mossberg "Flex" pumps getting a lot of press but they are fine shotguns and very versatile. Equipped with the LPA trigger, it's an excellent choice. Those guns also have one of the best factory recoil pads I've seen on guns of any type or price. I'd recommend you take a look at that one and see how it fits you.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Looking for a new pump
Post by: Terry on June 03, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
Clark, what manufacture has the fewest issues in your experience?

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Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: SumToy on June 03, 2017, 02:17:22 PM
Remington , Moss then Browning.   Now the new winchester pump is same browning as in barrel spec. 
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: 29810434 on June 03, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
Browning makes a top of the line pump,be aware they are heavy,but well made.
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: allaboutshooting on June 03, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: Terry on June 03, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
Clark, what manufacture has the fewest issues in your experience?

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I shoot all those guns a lot for both hunting and in competition. As far as functioning, I've not really had any issues with any of those guns. Some 870 receivers are prone to rust and need attention after use. I've never had a BPS or 500 with rust problems. Some older 870s with 3.5" chambers had feeding or ejection problems but those are easily solved.

Thinking over the last 3 decades of both competition and trying to be of help to other shooters, I can't really recall any consistent problems with any of those 3 pumps and the Benellis have been pretty much trouble free as well.

The 870s and BPSs have pretty heavy triggers as a rule. The standard 500 is about the same but the LPA trigger makes it more like a rifle.

The 870 and BPS standard models are not drilled and tapped for sights. The standard 500 is, so that's something to keep in mind. Bases for the 870 (once it's tapped) and the 500 are inexpensive and readily available. The base for the BPS is not always available and is several times the price of the others.

The BPS is heavy, the 870 and the 500 seem about the same weight to me and balance the same for me.

Lastly, barrel quality can vary on the 870 and the 500 but all the BPSs that I've seen have excellent barrel quality.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Looking for a new pump
Post by: Terry on June 03, 2017, 05:02:30 PM
Thanks for the replies. My 870 supermag has ejection and feeding issues. It also dents the brass and seems to chew up the rim of the brass. The gun is still functional,  just seems poor quality.

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Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: bbcoach on June 03, 2017, 06:36:25 PM
835.  Bought mine 10 years ago new at Wally World, very reliable, Excellent patterns with a variety of chokes and loads and they don't break the bank.
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: longislandloco on June 03, 2017, 07:54:39 PM
I have looked at the new BPS' in 12GA, beware the wood/metal fit on the new guns, very poor on the 12's I've seen, wood very proud if you go the wood stocked version, many wood burrs on the forearm inletting, the 20GA guns seem perfect, maybe a supplier issue.........if your going synthetic, no issues.
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: Coop1082 on June 03, 2017, 08:37:46 PM
Bought a new BPS 12 gauge this year in mossy oak camo. Love it outside of the duratouch finish. I shot a many that my friends own from a Benelli Supernova, new 870 super mag, and Winny SXP. My next choice is a Mossberg 835, and that's strictly because of the number of birds that have fell victim to mine. It's quite a few years old and has been drug through some of the worst weather and terrain you could imagine and hasn't let me down, I just felt this year was a good year to add to the gun safe and the BPS won out. I've been very satisfied thus far.
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: dirt road ninja on June 03, 2017, 09:13:55 PM
Ithaca is worth a look. Very well put together gun.
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: mspaci on June 04, 2017, 03:05:59 PM
iTHACA
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: decoykrvr on June 05, 2017, 03:48:12 PM

   Ithaca X2
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: USMC0331 on June 05, 2017, 10:03:27 PM
X3
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: Bowguy on June 06, 2017, 08:53:26 AM
Hate to go against my Ithaca boys here but I bought one last year. 3-4 shots in the slide broke. Sent it back 10-15 more shots n the thing locked up w no way to unload or fire it. I finally cleared it n sent it back. They send me new one.
Ok so it's now season, opening morning. I go to put shells in the gun n the freakin magazine doesn't work.
Send it back. Get it back after the season is almost finished. I try this year to use it. A few weeks before I pattern gun just to check. It won't fire intermittently. It's back again.
Now this is bad enough but the customer service though they do take care of you seems slow like they either have lots of probs or just plain not enough guys.
Honestly I'm getting a BPS next spring. Not that I need a gun but to wash the taste of the Ithaca away-yuck!
Title: Re: Looking for a new pump
Post by: mspaci on June 06, 2017, 07:07:11 PM
I will admitt, the customer service is not good, very slow, & the guy who picks up the phone as an absolute jerk. I too had a feeding problem, but its fixed & I love the gun. Light, compact, accurate, smooth,patters great. Mike