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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Lead Shooters Section => Topic started by: longbeards on April 02, 2017, 08:12:51 AM
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Shot the new LB 1.7/8 load in 6shot
My M1 yesterday...
Shot only 3 shots but they did not pattern as well as the 1.3/4 oz do. Will shot more today and then post if anyone is interested.
Longbeards
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Post them up.
Denny
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That's strange it seems like they would do better...
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Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .
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Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .
I just went through the same thing. The more pellets the slower the velocity. I opted out for higher velocity and less pellets. I may be wrong but I think the higher velocity may give you a few more yards in range. But that's only my idea, I haven't tested that. The Remington Nitros offer the same thing and the 1 7/8 oz are twice the price.
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I have found that a little slower load gave a littel more even pattern
High speed loads seem to deform the pellets more.
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I have found that a little slower load gave a littel more even pattern
High speed loads seem to deform the pellets more.
Generally speaking, that is true. Not so much with LBs whose resin does a great job of keeping the pellets perfectly round.
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Yea resin or no resin the sound barrier still exists.
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Yea resin or no resin the sound barrier still exists.
Indeed it does. So are you arguing that the heavier load should pattern better than the lighter, faster load because the heavier load remains subsonic?
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My Weatherby shoot much better with the 1 7/8 load than it does with the 1 3/4 load. #6’s .
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Maybe it’s overchoked.
In my Ithaca w a .665 Indian Creek the 1-3/4 actually shot slightly better. With the factory briley .675 it was the 1-7/8 did better.
More shot is better overall. I’d bet to that we’d agree. Less fast pellets are marketing hogwash. If you don’t wanna change anything though it sounds like a no brainer. Shoot what shoots better
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Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .
I just went through the same thing. The more pellets the slower the velocity. I opted out for higher velocity and less pellets. I may be wrong but I think the higher velocity may give you a few more yards in range. But that's only my idea, I haven't tested that. The Remington Nitros offer the same thing and the 1 7/8 oz are twice the price.
they going the same speed at 40 cuh.
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Stick with the 1 3/4 oz. Plus you get added velocity .
I just went through the same thing. The more pellets the slower the velocity. I opted out for higher velocity and less pellets. I may be wrong but I think the higher velocity may give you a few more yards in range. But that's only my idea, I haven't tested that. The Remington Nitros offer the same thing and the 1 7/8 oz are twice the price.
they going the same speed at 40 cuh.
Allaboutshooting talked about that in several threads. The faster they start the faster they lose velocity
Post #29
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,67960.msg665096.html#msg665096
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My Benelli / IC .665 wouldn't shoot the 1 7/8 load either I'm thinking maybe a looser choke would help that. the 1 3/4 shoots great almost too tight for hunting in the woods.
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"Indeed it does. So are you arguing that the heavier load should pattern better than the lighter, faster load because the heavier load remains subsonic?"
It should. But I have to agree with you in Longbeards it can go either way for whatever reason. It just varies from gun to gun with some shooting the Magnum load better and others preferring the lighter, faster load. For availability in these times I settled on the faster load in my gun. Both the slower and faster loads shoot incredibly well and are the best lead loads you can buy.
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I don’t shoot LBs anymore. But yeah most years I shot the 1&3/4 simply because that’s what most places had. 1&7/8 were harder to come by. But they did pattern better . I’ve noticed this with pretty much and load out of my guns. I’ve never stepped down in load weight and got better results , with that said . I shoot 21” barrel shotguns , so that may play into the velocity issues
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"Indeed it does. So are you arguing that the heavier load should pattern better than the lighter, faster load because the heavier load remains subsonic?"
It should. But I have to agree with you in Longbeards it can go either way for whatever reason. It just varies from gun to gun with some shooting the Magnum load better and others preferring the lighter, faster load. For availability in these times I settled on the faster load in my gun. Both the slower and faster loads shoot incredibly well and are the best lead loads you can buy.
Define best? And longbeards are not old school shells................ :TooFunny: :wave:
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My experience shooting 12ga 3.5" 2oz #4's and 2oz #5's at 1200fps/mv VS 12ga 3.5" 2 1/8oz #5's and 2 1/8oz #4's at 1050fps/mv was the slower 2 1/8oz loads patterned consistently better and put although not a great deal more pellets in a 10" circle at 45 yards, but enough I would use them over the 2oz loads.
This was true for both my 870 Supermag and my Benelli SN
As a matter of fact I just ordered a bunch of 12ga 3.5" 2 1/8oz #5's WLBXR's I found on line in stock today.
Unfortunately I didn't save my targets. I remember being impressed that the 2 1/8oz #5 shot didn't just put more shots in the 10" circle they were noticeably more evenly distributed VS the 2oz #5's.
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My experience shooting 12ga 3.5" 2oz #4's and 2oz #5's at 1200fps/mv VS 12ga 3.5" 2 1/8oz #5's and 2 1/8oz #4's at 1050fps/mv was the slower 2 1/8oz loads patterned consistently better and put although not a great deal more pellets in a 10" circle at 45 yards, but enough I would use them over the 2oz loads.
This was true for both my 870 Supermag and my Benelli SN
As a matter of fact I just ordered a bunch of 12ga 3.5" 2 1/8oz #5's WLBXR's I found on line in stock today.
Unfortunately I didn't save my targets. I remember being impressed that the 2 1/8oz #5 shot didn't just put more shots in the 10" circle they were noticeably more evenly distributed VS the 2oz #5's.
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My experience shooting 12ga 3.5" 2oz #4's and 2oz #5's at 1200fps/mv VS 12ga 3.5" 2 1/8oz #5's and 2 1/8oz #4's at 1050fps/mv was the slower 2 1/8oz loads patterned consistently better and put although not a great deal more pellets in a 10" circle at 45 yards, but enough I would use them over the 2oz loads.
This was true for both my 870 Supermag and my Benelli SN
As a matter of fact I just ordered a bunch of 12ga 3.5" 2 1/8oz #5's WLBXR's I found on line in stock today.
Unfortunately I didn't save my targets. I remember being impressed that the 2 1/8oz #5 shot didn't just put more shots in the 10" circle they were noticeably more evenly distributed VS the 2oz #5's.