Most people like to hunt with a good vest, and the ones with built in seats are pretty popular too. I have never owned one, so I won't go much more into detail about the pros/cons of a turkey vest...however, I will say that you don't need one to start out. If you need a seat or cushion to stay comfortable, they sell those separate, and cheaper. But don't worry about the vest for now. You don't want to spend too much effort and money on gear (not just the vest, but all the things you will want to put in it) when you first start hunting. If you are brand new to turkey hunting, you probably don't know for sure how much you will like it, and whether you will keep doing it. Also, a vest won't help you hunt turkeys any better if you aren't trying to actually learn to hunt. Vests and other gadgets will come along the way once you have become hopelessly addicted and start getting better at hunting, and start developing preferences for how you want to hunt. But for the beginning, you want to learn woodsmanship, learn about the turkeys, learn to call turkeys, and shoot them in the face. So I recommend keeping it as simple as possible, when you first start. Don't distract yourself from learning to hunt by trying to fill a vest with all kinds of calls and gadgets. Everything you need will fit into cargo pockets which are found on most camo pants.
I personally like the best because everything is easy access. But can agree everything can fit in your pockets. If I know I'm gonna be stalking them on whatever property I decide to hunt that morning the vest will stay in the side by side. Great write up for sure!
Actually got rid of the vest a while ago, I opted out to go with a hip pack. Over the years I have narrowed down to what I actually use to kill birds, the pack fits my needs.
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Quote from: MK M GOBL on February 11, 2017, 10:45:55 PM
Actually got rid of the vest a while ago, I opted out to go with a hip pack. Over the years I have narrowed down to what I actually use to kill birds, the pack fits my needs.
MK M GOBL
I use a similar pack for deer hunting but that is mainly because of the camera gear I use. While turkey hunting I carry a tripod so everything else just fits in pockets.
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7 mistakes a beginner can make turkey hunting. 1. Not patterning your gun 2. Not Scouting 3. Poor hunting setup 4. To much movement 5. Calling to much 6. Impatience 7. Going home to early. I feel a new hunter or beginner does need a vest or bag for a few items that will help make him a better turkey hunting in carrying what you need. You will need push pin button call, slate pot, box call and a crow Call. You will need a cap, face mask, gloves, chalk, abrasive pad, knife, small flashlight, bug repellent, Toilet paper, compass if hunting public or land unknown, compact binoculars and snacks, bottle of water and rain gear if needed or just have it in your truck..Don't forget licences, gun, shells and foldable hen decoy if you want to try a decoy. You will need some kind of a cushion and i always carry a big folded black plastic garbage bag. You can use this garbage bag to protect your hunting stuff if your get caught out in the rain, you can put it on the wet ground and help keep your seat cushion dry. Just lot of usages for a garbage bag and some zip lock bags also...So get you a vest, bag or a back pack...it will just help keep you in the woods longer.
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 12, 2017, 12:50:01 AM
7 mistakes a beginner can make turkey hunting. 1. Not patterning your gun 2. Not Scouting 3. Poor hunting setup 4. To much movement 5. Calling to much 6. Impatience 7. Going home to early. I feel a new hunter or beginner does need a vest or bag for a few items that will help make him a better turkey hunting in carrying what you need. You will need push pin button call, slate pot, box call and a crow Call. You will need a cap, face mask, gloves, chalk, abrasive pad, knife, small flashlight, bug repellent, Toilet paper, compass if hunting public or land unknown, compact binoculars and snacks, bottle of water and rain gear if needed or just have it in your truck..Don't forget licences, gun, shells and foldable hen decoy if you want to try a decoy. You will need some kind of a cushion and i always carry a big folded black plastic garbage bag. You can use this garbage bag to protect your hunting stuff if your get caught out in the rain, you can put it on the wet ground and help keep your seat cushion dry. Just lot of usages for a garbage bag and some zip lock bags also...So get you a vest, bag or a back pack...it will just help keep you in the woods longer.
heck I don't carry half of that stuff. Not all of those things are needed to hunt turkey. Sure most of it helps, but everyone develops their own preference for what they want to carry. A beginner doesn't have any experience to know what they prefer to carry. But you do have a point that it's not a bad idea to have a small bag, say if you want to pack food and water for a whole day hunt. I used to carry some sort of a bag turkey hunting and then just went to cargo pockets cause I prefer less bulk to carry around...walking for miles is better with less stuff.
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Quote from: Greg Massey on February 12, 2017, 12:50:01 AM
7 mistakes a beginner can make turkey hunting. 1. Not patterning your gun 2. Not Scouting 3. Poor hunting setup 4. To much movement 5. Calling to much 6. Impatience 7. Going home to early. I feel a new hunter or beginner does need a vest or bag for a few items that will help make him a better turkey hunting in carrying what you need. You will need push pin button call, slate pot, box call and a crow Call. You will need a cap, face mask, gloves, chalk, abrasive pad, knife, small flashlight, bug repellent, Toilet paper, compass if hunting public or land unknown, compact binoculars and snacks, bottle of water and rain gear if needed or just have it in your truck..Don't forget licences, gun, shells and foldable hen decoy if you want to try a decoy. You will need some kind of a cushion and i always carry a big folded black plastic garbage bag. You can use this garbage bag to protect your hunting stuff if your get caught out in the rain, you can put it on the wet ground and help keep your seat cushion dry. Just lot of usages for a garbage bag and some zip lock bags also...So get you a vest, bag or a back pack...it will just help keep you in the woods longer.
heck I don't carry half of that stuff. Not all of those things are needed to hunt turkey. Sure most of it helps, but everyone develops their own preference for what they want to carry. A beginner doesn't have any experience to know what they prefer to carry. But you do have a point that it's not a bad idea to have a small bag, say if you want to pack food and water for a whole day hunt. I used to carry some sort of a bag turkey hunting and then just went to cargo pockets cause I prefer less bulk to carry around...walking for miles is better with less stuff.
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That's what's great about this forum we can both disagree on what a new hunter needs to carry hunting... I Just think a new hunter needs more than what he can carry in his pockets walking thru the wood sounding like he has a can with rocks in his pocket... :TooFunny:
I also disagree. If your new and especially hunting by yourself or even if your not it's way easier having a vest with some type of cushion built in for sitting on,also if you you want any type of decoy at all you can carry em in your vest game bag, also you have a built in place for your boxcall,pot call,water bottle,etc. This is not saying you need a high dollar vest,but to me it's a pain and also uncomfortable having your pockets filled up and hands full to boot. Just because you have a vest doesn't mean you can't hunt turkeys because it's not filled up with every gadget under the sun. You'll figure out what you need and can add or subtract from your vest as you go. I think turkey hunting is much more enjoyable having a piece of equipment that keeps your tools of the trade at your fingertips with easy access and organization, leaving your hands free for your flashlight or just grabbing on to something trying to get up that hill or crossing that creek. One other thing that has made hunting easier for me is a sling for the gun leaving my hands even more free. Again this isn't saying you can't kill a turkey without some of the things mentioned above,but to me it makes it a whole lot more enjoyable. Goodluck......
I have both a vest and a backpack (day-pack type). Which one I use is totally dependent on where I am hunting and the conditions I expect to encounter. If I am hunting a small property where I know I will mostly be sitting and waiting rather than running and gunning, I will wear the vest and take what I think I will need for that. If I am hunting a larger area that I think I may be covering miles of country to find a cooperative gobbler, I will take the backpack so I can carry the stuff I may need for that.
I have found that my backpack is less cumbersome for long walks than my vest. Of course, for each individual, that probably has something to do with the type of vest you might have and the amount of stuff you might be inclined to carry. Understanding the type of hunting that you might need to be doing, and then catering your decision on what to carry with you and whether to take your vest, a backpack, fanny pack, or whatever, would seem to be insignificant,...but also could mean the difference in you getting to a cooperative gobbler,...or being worn out before you ever find him.
Ok I guess I'm just thinking along the lines of people getting started on a budget. Which was me a few years ago. I never bought a vest or decoys, and I got the cheapest shotgun they had at Walmart. If you want to load up on everything to start hunting that is fine, I just wanted to point out that it's not necessary to drop $50 for a vest to carry more stuff than you need. They make seat cushions for $5 that buckle around your waist and small cheap packs if you need that too. The most cumbersome thing for me to carry is the camera and tripod, and obviously that's not even a turkey hunting item so if I didn't film, I could pack almost as light as I do when I squirrel hunt. I've never considered cargo pockets to be a burden, but a vest full of stuff just sounds hot and sweaty for the 2nd half of season. That's just me though.
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New hunter or seasoned veteran. If you think you need a vest, then you need a vest. A lot of this turkey hunting is mental. The last thing you want to do is go hunting without something you think you need. The one thing you don't want to do is reduce your confidence by leaving something you think you need, whether you really need it or not. I personally plan on ditching the vest this year. But I may put it back on starting the second hunt, depending on how the first hunt goes.
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Ok I guess I'm just thinking along the lines of people getting started on a budget. Which was me a few years ago. I never bought a vest or decoys, and I got the cheapest shotgun they had at Walmart. If you want to load up on everything to start hunting that is fine, I just wanted to point out that it's not necessary to drop $50 for a vest to carry more stuff than you need. They make seat cushions for $5 that buckle around your waist and small cheap packs if you need that too. The most cumbersome thing for me to carry is the camera and tripod, and obviously that's not even a turkey hunting item so if I didn't film, I could pack almost as light as I do when I squirrel hunt. I've never considered cargo pockets to be a burden, but a vest full of stuff just sounds hot and sweaty for the 2nd half of season. That's just me though.
You can still hunt on a budget and find things you need for turkey hunting, you can go to yard sales, Ebay and Goodwill, i get a lot of good stuff at a budget price form these places. Camo, calls, bags and back packs...You just have to be a smart shopper...I've seen vest sale on Ebay for less than 20 dollars. You need equipment that will hold up during your day of turkey hunting without having to worry about it causing you problems with staying up or falling down...One thing i do spend a little more money on that's over looked sometimes is good socks and boots. Keeping your feet in good shape on those long walks sure makes for a better day of hunting..
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My thoughts are a vest is a pretty useful tool. All of your stuff is consolidated and packed, so you just throw your vest on and hit the woods and you should have everything you need.
Of course many of us probably started chasing gobblers before there were turkey vests. I killed many birds before I knew there was such a thing. We all evolve as we gain experience. Sure I've went to the woods back then without a head net or something because I forgot it. Now I keep two in my vest just to be safe.
As stated above vests don't have to be anything elaborate. Heck I've given away a few just because I was upgrading. Deals can be found. If I were just starting out, I would have one knowing what I know and experiences without one.
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 12, 2017, 11:56:45 AM
You can still hunt on a budget and find things you need for turkey hunting, you can go to yard sales, Ebay and Goodwill, i get a lot of good stuff at a budget price form these places. Camo, calls, bags and back packs...You just have to be a smart shopper...I've seen vest sale on Ebay for less than 20 dollars. You need equipment that will hold up during your day of turkey hunting without having to worry about it causing you problems with staying up or falling down...One thing i do spend a little more money on that's over looked sometimes is good socks and boots. Keeping your feet in good shape on those long walks sure makes for a better day of hunting..
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I agree on boots, you can get by with cheap ones but you'll be buying another pair soon. It's worth having good footwear almost as much as carrying a turkey call or shotgun. Lol. But then I have also hunted wearing Crocs flip flops, so it depends on the day.
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Quote from: Rzrbac on February 12, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
My thoughts are a vest is a pretty useful tool. All of your stuff is consolidated and packed, so you just throw your vest on and hit the woods and you should have everything you need.
Of course many of us probably started chasing gobblers before there were turkey vests. I killed many birds before I knew there was such a thing. We all evolve as we gain experience. Sure I've went to the woods back then without a head net or something because I forgot it. Now I keep two in my vest just to be safe.
As stated above vests don't have to be anything elaborate. Heck I've given away a few just because I was upgrading. Deals can be found. If I were just starting out, I would have one knowing what I know and experiences without one.
that's part of my point, you may find out you need or really want a vest once you've been hunting a little while. However for just starting out, I don't think it's necessary, unless you really need a lot of stuff to stay comfortable in the woods. As for actually hunting and killing turkeys, you really don't need that much stuff, especially if you're just trying to learn about the birds. I can't think of any time I wish I had a vest, even starting out. I have carried a pack before, and sometimes a seat cushion, but even ditched those after a while. I can't say I ever needed the pack, I don't even remember what I carried in it.
Now when I get older and it's harder to stay comfy in the woods, I might end up with one of those kickstand vests. Hope that is later rather than sooner. Lol
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The main reason i wear a vest is for lunch and water bottles. I like to go light but most of the time i hunt all day. Lunch, water, toilet paper, shells, calls, fit perfectly in a vest. Besides someone gave it to me free. Sometimes i take it off and hode it the come back to it later if it gets too hot on me.
I wear a Camelbak under my vest. I'm used to the weight of what I carry as it's light compared to a pack in the mountains. If one decides to go the vest route early, make sure you can and are willing to wear/carry the weight. It's meant to enhance your hunt and not detract. If you realize you have calls or equipment in it you are not using, take it out.
The water is important for sure.. I guess I just don't carry much water with me. But I know people who would go through half a gallon.
CatMan, I completely agree with you...
A backpack will work fine at first... Nothing fancy or special, just a backpack that is a neutral natural color (of camo if available). Most backpacks have separate compartments and will suffice fine. I used a large outdoor fanny-pack or a dove-hunting vest when I first started until I figured out what I wanted/needed...
What I would spend money on, is clothing to stay comfortable and dry... I would make the assumption that anyone giving turkey hunting a try is also interested in other outdoor activities, and quality clothing would likely work for many other outdoor activities.
Outside of my pants and vest, most of my turkey hunting clothing was purchased for waterfowl hunting... I do not get caught up in using the proper camouflage pattern... Heck, dull browns and greens would probably work just fine (although I do prefer camouflage to break me up better). But, being comfortable in the field will make for a far more pleasant experience.
When it comes to how many pounds I'm going to be packing around on a hunt, I worry about the weight I can shave off my gut well before I think about how much my vest weighs. Then again it just makes sense to me to treat hunting like an athletic sport so I wanna be the guy who can pound ridges and cover country on public land.
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When it comes to how many pounds I'm going to be packing around on a hunt, I worry about the weight I can shave off my gut well before I think about how much my vest weighs. Then again it just makes sense to me to treat hunting like an athletic sport so I wanna be the guy who can pound ridges and cover country on public land.
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you can also get some turkey call carries that attach to a belt.. if you only have a few calls this is far cheaper and lighter
I've used a small belt carrier, backpack, vest all depends what you want to carry. if you have room you will fill it but might not need the items
less is more when you are starting as well I would say too much stuff will distract you or make you move too much.
Naw need is an overused word
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Vests are great, but I find them to be to hot. I use a waist pack and really enjoy it!!!! :bible:
I like the old strap vest I've had for 22 years because I can reach calls while I'm walking without taking it off and the game bag makes a perfect backpack for water bottles, cushion, wings, dekes, etc. I'll wear it til it dry rots I suppose and then I'll get another one.
I think a vest is a good idea for a beginner. Your seat, shells, calls, license, sandpaper, strikers, compass, lunch, water, etc etc is all right in it. Grab two items, gun n vest. You'll forget nothing done this way of course provided you wear your clothes
Quote from: Bowguy on February 16, 2017, 05:13:58 PM
I think a vest is a good idea for a beginner. Your seat, shells, calls, license, sandpaper, strikers, compass, lunch, water, etc etc is all right in it. Grab two items, gun n vest. You'll forget nothing done this way of course provided you wear your clothes
X2 That's the other highlight of a vest it saves from having to put all your stuff away and rounding it all back up again. Saves time and possibly forgetting something.
Quote from: Bowguy on February 16, 2017, 05:13:58 PM
I think a vest is a good idea for a beginner. Your seat, shells, calls, license, sandpaper, strikers, compass, lunch, water, etc etc is all right in it. Grab two items, gun n vest. You'll forget nothing done this way of course provided you wear your clothes
I think it should be kept more simple for a beginner. With so many calls on the market, one should only have to worry about one or two. You shouldn't need sandpaper or multiple strikers if you're starting out. Sand your call when you practice, then bring the call and the striker that came with it. Compass is outdated for anyone who has a smartphone. A great way to learn what you need to bring is to forget things or not have them when you need them. Throwing a bunch of stuff into a vest will make you think you need more than you actually do.
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Quote from: catman529 on February 16, 2017, 08:12:37 PM
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I think a vest is a good idea for a beginner. Your seat, shells, calls, license, sandpaper, strikers, compass, lunch, water, etc etc is all right in it. Grab two items, gun n vest. You'll forget nothing done this way of course provided you wear your clothes
I think it should be kept more simple for a beginner. With so many calls on the market, one should only have to worry about one or two. You shouldn't need sandpaper or multiple strikers if you're starting out. Sand your call when you practice, then bring the call and the striker that came with it. Compass is outdated for anyone who has a smartphone. A great way to learn what you need to bring is to forget things or not have them when you need them. Throwing a bunch of stuff into a vest will make you think you need more than you actually do.
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You never sand or chalk your calls when hunting????? Smart phones are useless if a battery dies or you're in an area w no service. To each his own but 1 call, 1 striker, 1 shell, 1 butt pad, 1 license, 1 pen to fill it out, one smart phone, if you don't have one bring an outdated compass, one baggy to keep it dry if it rains, 1 bottle of water, 1 granola bar, 1 binocular, 1 pair of gloves, 1 hat, 1 mask, hmmmm sounds like you don't need much to put it in????
Guess a beginner who needs as much help remembering as possible may be handicapped without one. It's only my opinion though but a vest full or half full w 1 of everything you need n a gun is easier
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Quote from: Bowguy on February 16, 2017, 05:13:58 PM
I think a vest is a good idea for a beginner. Your seat, shells, calls, license, sandpaper, strikers, compass, lunch, water, etc etc is all right in it. Grab two items, gun n vest. You'll forget nothing done this way of course provided you wear your clothes
I think it should be kept more simple for a beginner. With so many calls on the market, one should only have to worry about one or two. You shouldn't need sandpaper or multiple strikers if you're starting out. Sand your call when you practice, then bring the call and the striker that came with it. Compass is outdated for anyone who has a smartphone. A great way to learn what you need to bring is to forget things or not have them when you need them. Throwing a bunch of stuff into a vest will make you think you need more than you actually do.
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I think the few thinks we have listed is keeping it pretty simple for beginners. You still need a few items for turkey hunting. Lot of people use more than one call and have great success in calling birds and if your going have these items your going to need to keep your calls conditions. Beginners please don't go in the woods without a few items and don't rely on a cell phone to get you back to the truck...omg....
I should add in the spring it rains. Pots n strikers get wet, one dew drop even renders many useless. Some guys use lighters to dry slate if that happens to be the surface but you'd still need one more striker if that was wet. Some states you must display a license on your back. Not sure about all states but again a vest is a very easy means to that. Plus in many states the bird must be taken from the woods intact. Vests have carrying pouches or pockets for turkey slings if you so need them.
Vests are not the only way but in many cases the easier fool proof way. Only imo
Quote from: Bowguy on February 16, 2017, 09:14:13 PM
I should add in the spring it rains. Pots n strikers get wet, one dew drop even renders many useless. Some guys use lighters to dry slate if that happens to be the surface but you'd still need one more striker if that was wet. Some states you must display a license on your back. Not sure about all states but again a vest is a very easy means to that. Plus in many states the bird must be taken from the woods intact. Vests have carrying pouches or pockets for turkey slings if you so need them.
Vests are not the only way but in many cases the easier fool proof way. Only imo
AMEN AMEN AMEN
My kids use a back pack for school as most do,woman use a purse,businessmen use briefcases, workers a lunch box,etc,etc,etc all so they keep their stuff organized or don't lose anything,also to keep hands free. If your going to hunt turkeys keep this in mind. If you can trail yourself back to your vehicle get a vest,if your asking yourself where did I put that or wish I had that,buy a vest,sat on your twinkies you were going to eat when you where starving because someone told you not to buy a vest buy a vest. If you buy a vest and don't use it advertise it in the O.G. classifieds or Ebay use the money to buy new calls and accessories and then ask yourself why did I ever sell that vest..buy another vest....
Yes,
I was a hold out for many years and have gone with hip packs, but reaching items sitting is a hassle, backpacks in convenient when your busted mid move and its strapped to your back. I used a should bag that I liked the best except when I am belly crawling into position.
I finally went back to the vest and overall it has the most positives and least amount of negatives.
My guess is most new hunters will end up with a vest eventually. I hunted for several years before buying one and loved it once I did. Problem is, I felt like I needed something to go in all those pockets LOL. I had all kinds of stuff that I never used. I liked the idea of having a place to put a turkey on the way out, but I filled that space up to, with decoys, stakes etc. I have since went to a backpack with pockets on the shoulder straps and waistband, and love it. Its a western style pack with straps and a cradle to carry my gun when I've bagged a bird, which is a big help. I also like the water bladder, something I never really thought about. I keep the things I use the most in the shoulder pockets or the waist pockets where I can get to them quickly. Each to its own, but this is what works for me. I believe you can start and be successful without a vest or a pack, but you'll get tired of your pockets bulging out eventually. One final thing, as far as seats go. I used to get so aggravated at putting the seat back up after I was ready to move. Whether it was velcro, magnets, or a buckle, it was a pain for me. Letting it dangle didn't work, because it grabbed everything in the woods. Now I just clip it to the waistband when I'm done using it and keep trucking.
Quote from: DTGobble on February 17, 2017, 06:33:48 AM
My guess is most new hunters will end up with a vest eventually. I hunted for several years before buying one and loved it once I did. Problem is, I felt like I needed something to go in all those pockets LOL. I had all kinds of stuff that I never used.
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Don't blame the vest - blame the guy or gal that filled it up! Vests are great to organize gear in accessible locations as stated in other posts. New (all) hunters should definitely bring an extra striker or 2 (we lose things), and call conditioning supplies, etc.
I love my vest because it is my turkey hunt "go bag". When I get to the woods, everything I need is in the vest. When I get back to the truck or home, everything is still in the vest. Top off the water bottle and it's ready to go again. No pants pockets to empty, nothing forgotten.
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Quote from: DTGobble on February 17, 2017, 06:33:48 AM
My guess is most new hunters will end up with a vest eventually. I hunted for several years before buying one and loved it once I did. Problem is, I felt like I needed something to go in all those pockets LOL. I had all kinds of stuff that I never used.
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Don't blame the vest - blame the guy or gal that filled it up! Vests are great to organize gear in accessible locations as stated in other posts. New (all) hunters should definitely bring an extra striker or 2 (we lose things), and call conditioning supplies, etc.
I love my vest because it is my turkey hunt "go bag". When I get to the woods, everything I need is in the vest. When I get back to the truck or home, everything is still in the vest. Top off the water bottle and it's ready to go again. No pants pockets to empty, nothing forgotten.
I think when catman started this topic he was simply cautioning the "new" turkey hunter of buying a vest and filling it up and spending unnecessary $$ before you know what you really need.
Most everyone came and replied here how useful and pretty much necessary a good vest/pack/bag is. I still agree that one should make a few hunts with relatively few calls and maybe a small pack/bag before going all out and buying a vest. Or maybe just borrow a buddy's backup/used vest till you figure things out - whats needed, whats not needed, layout, etc.
That being said, I agree with SteelerFan completely. I don't need a checklist or have to take time packing or unpacking because everything is right there in my vest. I like the confidence of knowing I haven't forgotten anything because everything has its designated spot. Grab it and go. But you could also substitute bag/pack/satchel/etc for the vest - just as long as you have an organized, dedicated carrying device for toting all your turkey supplies.
I have gone from carrying one or two calls and shells to a vest where I carried everything it could hold. Now I have gone back to no vest (unless I decide to take a decoy and then I use a small backpack). I carry a small pouch with a nail call, gloves, facemask and a couple shells. My other calls are on lanyards wingbone or trumpet, and a tube call. For me that works and to each their own.
Started out with carrying six shells, 2 mouth calls, headnet and gloves.
Shortly thereafter I got a good vest with a large gamebag. I love a good vest not so much for what I carry into the woods, but for what I carry OUT :icon_thumright:
Quote from: Bowguy on February 16, 2017, 08:30:47 PM
You never sand or chalk your calls when hunting????? Smart phones are useless if a battery dies or you're in an area w no service.
I've never owned a call that needs chalk, and when I do bring a pot call, if it needs sanding, I pick up a rock off the ground and scrape the pot call with that.
The smart phone dying is a good point. But I guess it depends where you hunt. I've never got lost on the public land I hunt. But the GPS has come in handy getting me out quicker. A compass doesn't take up much space at all, should fit in any pocket.
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Quote from: kjnengr on February 17, 2017, 10:11:55 AM
I think when catman started this topic he was simply cautioning the "new" turkey hunter of buying a vest and filling it up and spending unnecessary $$ before you know what you really need.
this was exactly my point. You may very well decide you want a vest after hunting a while, but when you look at the basics of turkey hunting and learning how to hunt them, a vest is nowhere near the top of the list. I learned to hunt them on my own without a vest and still don't use one today. I think it will help anyone to learn if they put more effort into the actual hunting than trying to be 100% prepared for something they aren't familiar with.
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Quote from: catman529 on February 19, 2017, 12:48:55 AM
Quote from: kjnengr on February 17, 2017, 10:11:55 AM
I think when catman started this topic he was simply cautioning the "new" turkey hunter of buying a vest and filling it up and spending unnecessary $$ before you know what you really need.
this was exactly my point. You may very well decide you want a vest after hunting a while, but when you look at the basics of turkey hunting and learning how to hunt them, a vest is nowhere near the top of the list. I learned to hunt them on my own without a vest and still don't use one today. I think it will help anyone to learn if they put more effort into the actual hunting than trying to be 100% prepared for something they aren't familiar with.
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Well you can tell from the other post the items that were suggested are just the basic items a beginner needed for a successful day of turkey hunting. If a beginner doesn't have these items and have them organized he's just selling himself short. Why would you want to have your pockets full of stuff to have to empty out after a few days of hunting. You may want to leave work early for afternoon of turkey hunting and with a vest or bag and a camo bug suit you have all you need to hit the woods without stuff left at home. You will also need your gun and a few extra shell and a bottle of water. Having bottle of water is almost a must if your using mouth calls. What your telling a beginner is wrong in he or she can just carrying those few items in his pockets...In most all who have posted on this topic agree a bag or vest is needed.
A small bag would be fine and much cheaper if you're starting out on a budget. I never knew a vest was considered needed so much. Never even touched one because I was too cheap and I learned to hunt on my own without one and can't think of any time I needed one.
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I prefer a back pack. My Alps fanny pack has a large hidden singular pocket than can be pulled out. Great for decoys. I'm just more comfortable with a back pack.
Of course when "teaching" others you are somewhat teaching from your own experiences and style of hunting. Hard to tell everyone "this" is how you need to do this.
I have mentored "students" for 20+ years and I always explain that they are learning what I have learned. I am not the expert on hunting in every location and situation that you could come across. I teach from my experiences, i.e. would be hard for me to tell someone how to hunt turkeys in Florida, I have never been there or hunted there.
Now there are a few general characteristics I teach about turkeys that can be applied just about anywhere...
MK M GOBL
I understand that,but if you poll people on here and they are honest most have some sort of vest,backpack,bag,or pouch to carry stuff...new people will figure it out like I said in some of my other posts. Hunt a few times without and in my opinion your going to be finding something to put your stuff in..My vote is YES for a vest or something to carry stuff.If I lost one call or sat on a misplaced one i could pay for a vest or 2 or 3..or if you lose your one and only call your hunt will be for something other than a turkey...
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on February 19, 2017, 02:06:18 PM
I understand that,but if you poll people on here and they are honest most have some sort of vest,backpack,bag,or pouch to carry stuff...new people will figure it out like I said in some of my other posts. Hunt a few times without and in my opinion your going to be finding something to put your stuff in..My vote is YES for a vest or something to carry stuff.If I lost one call or sat on a misplaced one i could pay for a vest or 2 or 3..or if you lose your one and only call your hunt will be for something other than a turkey...
Exactly!
I bought a vest to start with, and if were asked I would suggest a vest/pack or something to carry your hunting equipment. From my experience, vote would be YES as well.
MK M GOBL
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on February 19, 2017, 02:06:18 PM
I understand that,but if you poll people on here and they are honest most have some sort of vest,backpack,bag,or pouch to carry stuff...new people will figure it out like I said in some of my other posts. Hunt a few times without and in my opinion your going to be finding something to put your stuff in..My vote is YES for a vest or something to carry stuff.If I lost one call or sat on a misplaced one i could pay for a vest or 2 or 3..or if you lose your one and only call your hunt will be for something other than a turkey...
Amen, great post :z-guntootsmiley:
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on February 19, 2017, 02:06:18 PM
I understand that,but if you poll people on here and they are honest most have some sort of vest,backpack,bag,or pouch to carry stuff...new people will figure it out like I said in some of my other posts. Hunt a few times without and in my opinion your going to be finding something to put your stuff in..My vote is YES for a vest or something to carry stuff.If I lost one call or sat on a misplaced one i could pay for a vest or 2 or 3..or if you lose your one and only call your hunt will be for something other than a turkey...
Amen, great post :z-guntootsmiley:
That is a great post
I vote yes for vests they are a necessary turkey hunting tool IMO.
I vote yes on a vest, I have to many great calls to leave leave another one out, vest has never hinder me but I have took it off a time of two for a quick move and still pack my bird out in the vest, better than carrying one out in my opinion.
I imagine it's important to have a vest, pack, or pockets available to carry the tools you regularly use to hunt your particular style. I'm a runner and gunner so cover lots of country. I often have 1 diaphragm call in my mouth at all times and a spare in my pocket. I hike a lot of miles/day so it's an advantage being as light and compact as possible. If I get a tom I can strap him to my pack. I have ample room in my daypack for quick and easy access to extra shells, camera, lunch, rain jacket, and the stuff I regularly use. That is my style of gobbler hunting! Someone else that sits in a blind all day may use something else!
With that said, I've never owned a vest and have excellent success using a daypack or backpack.
Quote from: guesswho on February 12, 2017, 11:16:42 AM
New hunter or seasoned veteran. If you think you need a vest, then you need a vest. A lot of this turkey hunting is mental. The last thing you want to do is go hunting without something you think you need. The one thing you don't want to do is reduce your confidence by leaving something you think you need, whether you really need it or not. I personally plan on ditching the vest this year. But I may put it back on starting the second hunt, depending on how the first hunt goes.
:z-winnersmiley:
I'm surprised how many think the vest is necessary to hunt. Definitely preferred, and necessary for certain styles of hunting. But for the bare basics of hunting turkeys, which is what a beginner should first focus on, there shouldn't be need for a whole array of calls and stuff. I still say it's unnecessary to start out with a vest, because I've got by this far without one. Im not any special hunter, I just go after the birds and try to learn from them because it's a lot of fun.
A bag is a lot different, it can be more compact and simple, and it's cheaper. I'd recommend a bag before a vest. Then when beginner starts to get the hang of turkey hunting and starts to figure out what he really wants to bring to the woods, a good vest will probably come in handy.
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Quote from: guesswho on February 12, 2017, 11:16:42 AM
New hunter or seasoned veteran. If you think you need a vest, then you need a vest. A lot of this turkey hunting is mental. The last thing you want to do is go hunting without something you think you need. The one thing you don't want to do is reduce your confidence by leaving something you think you need, whether you really need it or not. I personally plan on ditching the vest this year. But I may put it back on starting the second hunt, depending on how the first hunt goes.
:z-winnersmiley:
that is a great point. Confidence is a great thing to carry into the woods with you.
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Quote from: 3bailey3 on February 19, 2017, 09:24:30 PM
I vote yes on a vest, I have to many great calls to leave leave another one out, vest has never hinder me but I have took it off a time of two for a quick move and still pack my bird out in the vest, better than carrying one out in my opinion.
x2 plus a lot safer way to carry one out.
Peronally I think a call a gun and a shotgun shell is all that is NEEDED to kill a turkey. And to be honest with all the pockets on clothes today more can be carried than what is NEEDED. I really like a vest myself, I can carry water, snacks, a first aid kit, tp, gps, and other things that help make my life easier and possibly aid in an emergency. I don't pack as many calls as most and am seeming to slim down on those as I get older. I don't like having stuff shoved in my pants pockets so a vest works well for me. Grab it and go. However it is really something that I prefere. I don't have to have it.
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So many good posts on both sides. I started this sport 29 years ago and hunted for years without a vest, but back then I wasn't carrying many turkeys out of the woods either. Through the years it has become more common for me to have to tote a turkey out, and when hunting public land in Florida that means a minimum of 2 miles usually and up to 5 1/2 miles! That's one of the things that I like best about a vest since I rarely get to hunt near my truck. And I need all of the extras so I can stay late - the cushion, the water, the toilet paper, the snack etc.. I shouldn't tell this secrete - but public land birds are rarely killed before 10AM or close to the parking area! (LOL Everyone here knows that). But I still do go light sometimes with just the minimal and no vest. So I would recommend a new person just spending a few mornings hunting without one if they are on a smaller farm that is convenient, but if they are on public land or large property where they can't drive - get a vest. Or at least a backpack with straps to carry the bird out.
Quote from: pogo on February 25, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
So many good posts on both sides. I started this sport 29 years ago and hunted for years without a vest, but back then I wasn't carrying many turkeys out of the woods either. Through the years it has become more common for me to have to tote a turkey out, and when hunting public land in Florida that means a minimum of 2 miles usually and up to 5 1/2 miles! That's one of the things that I like best about a vest since I rarely get to hunt near my truck. And I need all of the extras so I can stay late - the cushion, the water, the toilet paper, the snack etc.. I shouldn't tell this secrete - but public land birds are rarely killed before 10AM or close to the parking area! (LOL Everyone here knows that). But I still do go light sometimes with just the minimal and no vest. So I would recommend a new person just spending a few mornings hunting without one if they are on a smaller farm that is convenient, but if they are on public land or large property where they can't drive - get a vest. Or at least a backpack with straps to carry the bird out.
I've carried all my birds out of public land but it's usually within a mile of the truck. I've never been to FL but 5 miles sounds like a heck of a hike. I would do it though if I ever made the trip down there. Whatever it takes to get it done.
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Quote from: pogo on February 25, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
So many good posts on both sides. I started this sport 29 years ago and hunted for years without a vest, but back then I wasn't carrying many turkeys out of the woods either. Through the years it has become more common for me to have to tote a turkey out, and when hunting public land in Florida that means a minimum of 2 miles usually and up to 5 1/2 miles! That's one of the things that I like best about a vest since I rarely get to hunt near my truck. And I need all of the extras so I can stay late - the cushion, the water, the toilet paper, the snack etc.. I shouldn't tell this secrete - but public land birds are rarely killed before 10AM or close to the parking area! (LOL Everyone here knows that). But I still do go light sometimes with just the minimal and no vest. So I would recommend a new person just spending a few mornings hunting without one if they are on a smaller farm that is convenient, but if they are on public land or large property where they can't drive - get a vest. Or at least a backpack with straps to carry the bird out.
I've carried all my birds out of public land but it's usually within a mile of the truck. I've never been to FL but 5 miles sounds like a heck of a hike. I would do it though if I ever made the trip down there. Whatever it takes to get it done.
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If you ever hunted Mo. like i did you would be anywhere from 1- 5 miles from camp or the truck. You will want a vest to carry your stuff and bird out...
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Quote from: pogo on February 25, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
So many good posts on both sides. I started this sport 29 years ago and hunted for years without a vest, but back then I wasn't carrying many turkeys out of the woods either. Through the years it has become more common for me to have to tote a turkey out, and when hunting public land in Florida that means a minimum of 2 miles usually and up to 5 1/2 miles! That's one of the things that I like best about a vest since I rarely get to hunt near my truck. And I need all of the extras so I can stay late - the cushion, the water, the toilet paper, the snack etc.. I shouldn't tell this secrete - but public land birds are rarely killed before 10AM or close to the parking area! (LOL Everyone here knows that). But I still do go light sometimes with just the minimal and no vest. So I would recommend a new person just spending a few mornings hunting without one if they are on a smaller farm that is convenient, but if they are on public land or large property where they can't drive - get a vest. Or at least a backpack with straps to carry the bird out.
I've carried all my birds out of public land but it's usually within a mile of the truck. I've never been to FL but 5 miles sounds like a heck of a hike. I would do it though if I ever made the trip down there. Whatever it takes to get it done.
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If you ever hunted Mo. like i did you would be anywhere from 1- 5 miles from camp or the truck. You will want a vest to carry your stuff and bird out...
Nah I'd carry a small backpack for food and water mostly.
Quote from: catman529 on February 25, 2017, 11:11:57 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 25, 2017, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: catman529 on February 25, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
Quote from: pogo on February 25, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
So many good posts on both sides. I started this sport 29 years ago and hunted for years without a vest, but back then I wasn't carrying many turkeys out of the woods either. Through the years it has become more common for me to have to tote a turkey out, and when hunting public land in Florida that means a minimum of 2 miles usually and up to 5 1/2 miles! That's one of the things that I like best about a vest since I rarely get to hunt near my truck. And I need all of the extras so I can stay late - the cushion, the water, the toilet paper, the snack etc.. I shouldn't tell this secrete - but public land birds are rarely killed before 10AM or close to the parking area! (LOL Everyone here knows that). But I still do go light sometimes with just the minimal and no vest. So I would recommend a new person just spending a few mornings hunting without one if they are on a smaller farm that is convenient, but if they are on public land or large property where they can't drive - get a vest. Or at least a backpack with straps to carry the bird out.
I've carried all my birds out of public land but it's usually within a mile of the truck. I've never been to FL but 5 miles sounds like a heck of a hike. I would do it though if I ever made the trip down there. Whatever it takes to get it done.
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If you ever hunted Mo. like i did you would be anywhere from 1- 5 miles from camp or the truck. You will want a vest to carry your stuff and bird out...
Nah I'd carry a small backpack for food and water mostly.
Good, i'm glad you will finally carry water and food. Man does get thirsty at times and hungry ..ha ha ha
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Quote from: Greg Massey on February 25, 2017, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: catman529 on February 25, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
Quote from: pogo on February 25, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
So many good posts on both sides. I started this sport 29 years ago and hunted for years without a vest, but back then I wasn't carrying many turkeys out of the woods either. Through the years it has become more common for me to have to tote a turkey out, and when hunting public land in Florida that means a minimum of 2 miles usually and up to 5 1/2 miles! That's one of the things that I like best about a vest since I rarely get to hunt near my truck. And I need all of the extras so I can stay late - the cushion, the water, the toilet paper, the snack etc.. I shouldn't tell this secrete - but public land birds are rarely killed before 10AM or close to the parking area! (LOL Everyone here knows that). But I still do go light sometimes with just the minimal and no vest. So I would recommend a new person just spending a few mornings hunting without one if they are on a smaller farm that is convenient, but if they are on public land or large property where they can't drive - get a vest. Or at least a backpack with straps to carry the bird out.
I've carried all my birds out of public land but it's usually within a mile of the truck. I've never been to FL but 5 miles sounds like a heck of a hike. I would do it though if I ever made the trip down there. Whatever it takes to get it done.
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If you ever hunted Mo. like i did you would be anywhere from 1- 5 miles from camp or the truck. You will want a vest to carry your stuff and bird out...
Nah I'd carry a small backpack for food and water mostly.
Good, i'm glad you will finally carry water and food. Man does get thirsty at times and hungry ..ha ha ha
Yea sometimes if I'm smart I bring water. But always TP!
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Quote from: Greg Massey on February 25, 2017, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: catman529 on February 25, 2017, 11:11:57 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 25, 2017, 11:06:48 PM
Quote from: catman529 on February 25, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
Quote from: pogo on February 25, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
So many good posts on both sides. I started this sport 29 years ago and hunted for years without a vest, but back then I wasn't carrying many turkeys out of the woods either. Through the years it has become more common for me to have to tote a turkey out, and when hunting public land in Florida that means a minimum of 2 miles usually and up to 5 1/2 miles! That's one of the things that I like best about a vest since I rarely get to hunt near my truck. And I need all of the extras so I can stay late - the cushion, the water, the toilet paper, the snack etc.. I shouldn't tell this secrete - but public land birds are rarely killed before 10AM or close to the parking area! (LOL Everyone here knows that). But I still do go light sometimes with just the minimal and no vest. So I would recommend a new person just spending a few mornings hunting without one if they are on a smaller farm that is convenient, but if they are on public land or large property where they can't drive - get a vest. Or at least a backpack with straps to carry the bird out.
I've carried all my birds out of public land but it's usually within a mile of the truck. I've never been to FL but 5 miles sounds like a heck of a hike. I would do it though if I ever made the trip down there. Whatever it takes to get it done.
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If you ever hunted Mo. like i did you would be anywhere from 1- 5 miles from camp or the truck. You will want a vest to carry your stuff and bird out...
Nah I'd carry a small backpack for food and water mostly.
Good, i'm glad you will finally carry water and food. Man does get thirsty at times and hungry ..ha ha ha
Yea sometimes if I'm smart I bring water. But always TP!
Amen...TP for sure
The one problem with a vest is that you can put to much stuff in it ! I mean if it has a pocket why not fill it right ? Its a hard lesson to learn. Last year I hunted with a beginner on a 100 acre farm. I had a water bottle stuffed in my pocket, slate call 2 strikers,a container of mouth calls and a chew can with sandpaper . He had a vest packed with the entire turkey hunting isle from Cabelas. I do use my vest quite often,mostly on those days when I'm hunting the hills and dont expect to be back at the truck till after 1. I have learned to pack lighter taking only what I'm going to need.
I guess, I am (old school) as I like a camo daypack. I have a vest- but rarely use one and they can get HEAVY! When I set-up in front of my tree- I sling my daypack behind the tree after getting my callers out. Without a vest- I can more freely move my upper body as well and sweat less . To each their own though.
I've come almost full circle. I do wear a vest. I also carry what I consider adequate equipment. A hand full of mouth calls, a box, a couple of pots and usually 3 strikers. Facemask, gloves, owl hooter, shells, wet wipes and Thermocell. Yeah most of this would fit in my pockets but I like having everything stowed away where I can grab my vest and go.
Quote from: Gooserbat on March 05, 2017, 10:24:08 PM
I've come almost full circle. I do wear a vest. I also carry what I consider adequate equipment. A hand full of mouth calls, a box, a couple of pots and usually 3 strikers. Facemask, gloves, owl hooter, shells, wet wipes and Thermocell. Yeah most of this would fit in my pockets but I like having everything stowed away where I can grab my vest and go.
I'll keep some Bacon in my pocket but usually only carry 2 or 3 calls with me on any given day
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I switched over to a hip/fanny pack a few years ago and use my old turkey vest during tree squirrel season. Since I don't run and gun but rather set up for the long haul, the pack carried my calls, etc., easier than the vest. My decoys are carried in a mesh sack that came with my Pretty Boy decoy and any stakes are in a blue jean leg bag that my wife fashioned for such and it goes in the mesh sack.
You don't need a vest. I have one-but rarely use it. It makes me feel constricted when sitting in front of a tree. I really like a daypack. I have 2 of them. When I get to my tree- I get my camo- seat out and sling that day pack behind my tree. This works for me and keeps me cooler as well. Late in the season- I switch to a fanny-pack as I will carry less stuff this late if I still have a tag.
You do not need a vest and you can find water from a creek/stream/spring in your hunting area. No need to carry added unnecessary weight.
Lot of solid opinions on this post. I like a turkey vest for organization. I like it because I can put my hands on what ever peice of equipment I need in a hurry. I pack my vest the night before with everything I may need. I don't like a pack because I have to dig for what I need, it never stays organized. My calls bang together and I can never find my strikers.
Vests can be bought cheaply off e bay or at garage sales. It does not have to be fancy.
Finally for those on a budget or not: ebay is the best place to buy most of your hunting equipment except for guns or ammo. They do sell some gun parts. There are lots of options for the beginning hunter.
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