I started shooting long beards in 2015. ive been nothing but impressed with this load for the money ever since I fired them. ive heard a few complaints along the way and ive had a few myself...but what was I really complaining about they cost 20 bucks. there is no shell for 20 bucks that out shoots them there just isn't. its a fact!!! I limited out in Mississippi this year, killed my first 2 birds at normal ranges 30 yards and 35 yards. very reasonable considering my gun is well tuned from the get go and throws a killer pattern. the last bird I killed I thought was 35-40 yards. I don't intentionally shoot past 40, at least not in the woods and without a good rest. well this bird was skirting me ...like I said I thought it was 35-40 yards. I had no rest, but the dot was on his head and I pulled the trigger. he dropped like a sack of potatoes. well after the shot I ran over to him and soon realized ...this aint 40 yards. I went back to the tree and noticed I had shot the limb in front of me, and the wadding had exploded. I walked it off and he was 49 yards....not only 49 yards but how much of the load did I lose by shooting a 1/2" limb 3 ft in front of my barrel. he still had plenty of pellets in the head and neck. matter of fact his brains were hanging out his ear hole on one side. now with all this said....I am in no way advocating trying to shoot birds at 50 yards or trying to shoot through brush because had I noticed the limb I would not have pulled the trigger but im shooting a burris ff3 and never noticed the limb. all in all of course some luck was involved, but at the same time I was dead on the money. this is an excellent load hands down. thank you Winchester...why would I shoot anything else.
Awesome story. Thx for sharing.
If they would only make them in 20 gauge. They could just about corner the turkey ammo market.
hopefully they'll come out with a killer 20 guage load eventually. id like to see that because ive been wanting a 20 guage as backup for a while.
They are impressive!! I have read where guys have said #6 wouldn't have enough energy to kill at 45. I guess they are wrong. 49 yards with #6 wow!! What are the specs on the shell-length and ounces of shot?
Congratulations!
3" shell 13/4oz. Remington 870 21" barrel. it puts about 230s in 10" at 40 with the 1 7/8oz load slightly higher. but I killed the turkey with 13/4oz because that's what I shot this year
I'm happy for you, but this makes me sad! I let one walk last week cause he was past 40yds, about 45yds. I was hoping he would come closer, but no dice, and I didn't want my first bird to be a miss. I have not shot the Lb 6's past 40yds. But again, great job!
Quote from: Izzyjoe on April 27, 2016, 09:41:40 PM
I'm happy for you, but this makes me sad! I let one walk last week cause he was past 40yds, about 45yds. I was hoping he would come closer, but no dice, and I didn't want my first bird to be a miss. I have not shot the Lb 6's past 40yds. But again, great job!
read my original post....i am in no way advocating trying to shoot birds past ethical distances. i honestly thought the bird was 35-40 yards. my red dot was no larger than his head...i figured it was 40 at the furthest. ive let many birds walk because i knew they were on out there.....i made a good shot shot, but because of the red dot being about 1" above the barrel bead i didn't notice the limb in front of me. i know the gun and load is capable of dropping a bird at 50 yards there is no doubt in my mind ....but i just don't intentionally take those shot. if i cant call him closer or slip up on him closer...we will both live to fight another day
That's my feelings exactly, about four years I let one walk and he came Close to me, but he wasn't strutting, so I was not sure if he was a jake, but now I know the difference.
man don't let that confuse you. jakes do strut!!!! a jake who has been whooped all season may not strut but in my experiences they do strut. I called some birds up for a buddy of mine once. it was a gobbler and 2 jakes. all 3 were strutting. guess which one he shot..... a jake. he didn't know the diff. they never gobbled though only the gobbler gobbled.
They do a job on coyotes also. Can read about it under gobbling activity for Pa.
Amazing what those things can do
yes they are an excellent coyote load. ive only called 2 coyotes directly into my set twice in my life ....once when I was a kid. I called one up this year and shot him at 40 yards. killed him dead as a hammer. some even passed through him. its an impressive load
Them longbeards do some amazing things for a lead load. Never thought I'd see patterns that good, but you if that's impressive you should see what the heavyweight 7's do in my 20ga
Quote from: turkey buster on May 03, 2016, 07:56:25 PM
Them longbeards do some amazing things for a lead load. Never thought I'd see patterns that good, but you if that's impressive you should see what the heavyweight 7's do in my 20ga
if they made longbeard 7s im sure they would be that good
You got to like the longbeard shells no doubt for a lead shell they do shoot a mean pattern and are cheap so a lot of people can buy them .
The tight patterns hopefully will help those who don't pattern , which is quite a few. You can also expect them to be able to kill further out for those who have been in the situation of not having the range right
Which is probably very common so many birds may die which could have been just wounded with lead loads that don't pattern as well. You know those 2 or 3 shots you hear sometimes.
They apparently can help with a bad shot as in hitting a twig which would usually throw a pattern all to heck. Very lucky there. So all in all the loading will do a good job for what is was intended.
Oh, if using a 835 you may have a gobble gobble click as a friend of mine did so be ready to shuck another one in. He wasn't.
Quote from: owlhoot on May 04, 2016, 10:21:44 PM
You got to like the longbeard shells no doubt for a lead shell they do shoot a mean pattern and are cheap so a lot of people can buy them .
The tight patterns hopefully will help those who don't pattern , which is quite a few. You can also expect them to be able to kill further out for those who have been in the situation of not having the range right
Which is probably very common so many birds may die which could have been just wounded with lead loads that don't pattern as well. You know those 2 or 3 shots you hear sometimes.
They apparently can help with a bad shot as in hitting a twig which would usually throw a pattern all to heck. Very lucky there. So all in all the loading will do a good job for what is was intended.
Oh, if using a 835 you may have a gobble gobble click as a friend of mine did so be ready to shuck another one in. He wasn't.
what is this gobble gobble click you speak of
835 mossburg / longbeard shell missfires
yeah a friend of mine clicked on one last year with an 835 and longbeards , but he said it was the spring in his firing pin getting weak. so is this a longbeard hard primer problem or is this a Mossberg problem?
Idk but has been some threads on here about cleaning and hard primers too. I haven't seen the results of anything to suggest the problem being solved. I know that the thugs I gave him and his Remington shells all went boom and also a box of field loads. Two of the longbeard went off also . He cleaned after all this.
ive fired 3 entire boxes of long beards between hunting and play. all 3 were from different lots and 2 were different sizes. they all fired. my friend with the Mossberg has fired more like 5 whole boxes if not more....it only happened once, and he never even assumed it was a shell.....on the same subject...I had my first click this year deer hunting with a Remington core lokt. on a 146" ten point. fortunately all he did was take one more step after I bolted another round. HE GONE!
Quote from: dzsmith on May 05, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
ive fired 3 entire boxes of long beards between hunting and play. all 3 were from different lots and 2 were different sizes. they all fired. my friend with the Mossberg has fired more like 5 whole boxes if not more....it only happened once, and he never even assumed it was a shell.....on the same subject...I had my first click this year deer hunting with a Remington core lokt. on a 146" ten point. fortunately all he did was take one more step after I bolted another round. HE GONE!
About 3-4 boxes in 2 Remington and a beretta no misfired. Friends have shot a lot of Federal and older Remington's and Winchester shells in 835 and 935 without any problems. The fact is so far 835 and longbeard combos and seems to be fairly common from post on here and the one that I know. You can read in turkey guns threads , done with my mossburg.
I stopped by my buddies house last night with the Mossberg, it wasn't his firing pin spring. his actuall firing pin was bent on the end and it was hitting the side of the primer, his hammer spring malfunctioned as well. he actually fired the second shell again. straightened the pin and reused it. I probably would have gotten a new pin. but hes destroyed 2 mossbergs in the last 12 years of hunting. odd I know. I wonder what would bend that pin like that.
Last year I had a total of 4 shells go click in my rifles 3 of them were in a Marlin 3030, and 1 was in a Savage 308, all of them were Remington Corelokts, but the rest fired fine, both boxes were ordered through the mail from one of the big outdoor stores, have not had it happen with the Longbeards yet, just figured it was a but run of ammo of maybe old, primers, was annoying but not hunt ending. I guess it could be on a 40 yard turkey shot.
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I agree the longbeards are the best lead loads out there. And I can honestly compare them to hevishot.
As for the mossberg 835 I have run at least 5 boxes through my mossberg with no misfires.
I can not say the same for Rem core lokt. I am done with Remington ammo. Remingtons quality has really slipped off the past 8 or 9 years.
Congrats on the bird! The long beards are a really good shell. I'm thankful i was shooting them yesterday. I pulled a 30 yard shot low on a gobbler and he stopped at 53 yards to offer a follow up shot. The #5's hammered him, dropped on the spot.
I came from shooting nitros for a couple years. 71 dollars for a box of ten. im putting more pellets on paper with longbeards than nitros in 3" shells
Quote from: coyote1 on May 08, 2016, 11:57:16 PM
Congrats on the bird! The long beards are a really good shell. I'm thankful i was shooting them yesterday. I pulled a 30 yard shot low on a gobbler and he stopped at 53 yards to offer a follow up shot. The #5's hammered him, dropped on the spot.
That is impressive! 3 or 3.5 inch shell and how many ounces of shot?
Congrats and Thank You!!
Quote from: dzsmith on May 09, 2016, 12:51:30 PM
I came from shooting nitros for a couple years. 71 dollars for a box of ten. im putting more pellets on paper with longbeards than nitros in 3" shells
They do pattern great. I'm putting 150-160 in the 10 at 40. They are best shell I have tried, although I have never shot htl.
Quote from: BDeal on May 09, 2016, 02:18:43 PM
Quote from: coyote1 on May 08, 2016, 11:57:16 PM
Congrats on the bird! The long beards are a really good shell. I'm thankful i was shooting them yesterday. I pulled a 30 yard shot low on a gobbler and he stopped at 53 yards to offer a follow up shot. The #5's hammered him, dropped on the spot.
That is impressive! 3 or 3.5 inch shell and how many ounces of shot?
Congrats and Thank You!!
3" 1 3/4oz. The 1 7/8oz did pattern a little more even but I couldn't find another box in time to hunt with them.
Quote from: coyote1 on May 09, 2016, 03:23:00 PM
Quote from: dzsmith on May 09, 2016, 12:51:30 PM
I came from shooting nitros for a couple years. 71 dollars for a box of ten. im putting more pellets on paper with longbeards than nitros in 3" shells
They do pattern great. I'm putting 150-160 in the 10 at 40. They are best shell I have tried, although I have never shot htl.
with my full length barrel 260 in 10" at 40 with 3" 1 7/8oz #6
with my 21" barrel 230 in 10" at 40 with3" 1 3/4oz #6 nitros were hitting aroun 220 with my full length barrel. light years better for the money.
I shot one at 40 yards with the LB#6 3.5 inch 2 oz Saturday morning. I normally don't like to shoot that far, but the pattern on my setup with this shell at 40 is awesome. He went right down. Very impressed.
Switched from Win Supreme 3.5" #5 as i was out of that ammo,bought 4 boxes of LB Xr 3.5" #5,i put my first tom down at 34 yards and my 2nd at 56 yards.