I'm curious if anyone has done any comparisons between the original Winchester Longbeard loads and the newer offerings which have a 1/8 oz heavier payload?
I'm also wondering the same thing, I have plenty of the old but wondering if the heavier loads are any better
If the weather forecast holds out like they say, 70s and sunny for Saturday, I plan on shooting these along with some triple beards to test some patterns. Also got a couple of new chokes to check out also. Should be fun and Spring can't get here soon enough!
Quote from: wytrat785 on February 14, 2016, 08:36:06 PM
If the weather forecast holds out like they say, 70s and sunny for Saturday, I plan on shooting these along with some triple beards to test some patterns. Also got a couple of new chokes to check out also. Should be fun and Spring can't get here soon enough!
I'll be looking forward to your results with both!
I wonder if the rebates include triple beard
Lol that would be a deal
The lighter load more f.p.s. The heavier load slower with more pellets. Your choice.
Bet the slower will pattern better.
I haven't tried them due to all my stocked ammo. But would grab a box of the 1 7/8 #6 first. I 've came very close several times on grabbing a box.
Quote from: Prohunter3509 on February 14, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
I wonder if the rebates include triple beard
Lol that would be a deal
I believe that Winchester has longbeards and Hevi-Shot has Triple Beard so the same rebate would probably not hold true.
Quote from: 357MAGNOLE on February 14, 2016, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: wytrat785 on February 14, 2016, 08:36:06 PM
If the weather forecast holds out like they say, 70s and sunny for Saturday, I plan on shooting these along with some triple beards to test some patterns. Also got a couple of new chokes to check out also. Should be fun and Spring can't get here soon enough!
I'll be looking forward to your results with both!
Posted up some patterns I shot today with LB mags.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,60400.0.html (http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,60400.0.html)
Interested in the 3" 1 7/8oz. load of #4's.
I shot the heavier 3" load tonight. My gun shoots the reg load pretty well but the mags are def better. Not one single thin spot, dense yet with a little room for comfort. Once the reg loads are gone Itd gonna be the mags in the gun. Ithaca Turkeyslayer w factory .675 choke. Tried an Indian creek .665 n it was not as good
Quote from: worth612000 on February 15, 2016, 09:42:40 PM
I haven't tried them due to all my stocked ammo. But would grab a box of the 1 7/8 #6 first. I 've came very close several times on grabbing a box.
I didn't really notice a difference except the 1 3/4oz had more gaps than the 1 7/8oz. pellet numbers were very close. I don't really understand why someone said that the heavier load should have more pellets. im not super shell savy.... does 1 3/4oz mean the load has 1 3/4oz total of pellets in the shell?
At this point I have fired literally several hundred of the WLB shells in both 1 3/4 oz and 1 7/8 oz of #6 shot. I did some work last year for a company that was designing a new turkey choke for those shells and it required a lot of range time with both of them. I shot at least 50 rounds at each session.
The 1 7/8 oz shell consistently turned in more even patterns. The real difference centers on the muzzle velocity and not the payload. While one starts out with a higher m.v. they both are very similar in terminal velocity at 40 yards. The faster shell slows down more quickly and that can disrupt the pattern. Both will have about the same retained energy, so you give up nothing by shooting the slower shells with more shot payload. There also seem to be fewer incidents of the resin not fracturing with the heavier payloads, so it's a win-win situation.
Thanks,
Clark
Quote from: allaboutshooting on April 11, 2016, 04:59:19 PM
At this point I have fired literally several hundred of the WLB shells in both 1 3/4 oz and 1 7/8 oz of #6 shot. I did some work last year for a company that was designing a new turkey choke for those shells and it required a lot of range time with both of them. I shot at least 50 rounds at each session.
The 1 7/8 oz shell consistently turned in more even patterns. The real difference centers on the muzzle velocity and not the payload. While one starts out with a higher m.v. they both are very similar in terminal velocity at 40 yards. The faster shell slows down more quickly and that can disrupt the pattern. Both will have about the same retained energy, so you give up nothing by shooting the slower shells with more shot payload. There also seem to be fewer incidents of the resin not fracturing with the heavier payloads, so it's a win-win situation.
Thanks,
Clark
thank you for this. ive been looking for this answer for a long time. since I couldn't find the answer and the 1 7/8oz #6s are harder to find I just settled and bought 1 3/4oz. I must say the first box I owned was 1 7/8oz because they were sold out of everything else and it patterned better than the 1 3/4 oz...no necessarily in numbers but in spacing