There's a new choke out from a company called wildside armory i saw it on fb and they shot it agaist a rhino choke there's no comparison it smoked the rhino. Anyone ever heard of it
Guessing you work for them? Why not just tell us about more about it?
Can't read the detail on the pictures either.
so i did a little research on these choke tubes you mentioned.i also saw where they had a guy by the name of doug borries use your chokes. i watched his videos on the choke and i noticed he is claiming 60-82 yd shots.im not saying the choke wont work at 40 yds or so but i dont think i would use him for advertising my choke.alot of people in turkey world frown upon that sorta thing
i posted a link to the YouTube, but didn't want it associated with me so I modified/removed it.
Not good.
:popcorn:
They'll probably make a fortune on them, but personally I like my birds a little closer. 50-60 yards closer.
Bob
Quote from: dirt road ninja on January 15, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
i posted a link to the YouTube, but didn't want it associated with me so I modified/removed it.
Not good.
:popcorn:
I watched it and I can't say that I blame you.
Bob
maybe im wrong but it seems turkey hunting is turning into something more along the lines of turkey shooting.what happened to trying to get a weary old tom in close.
Thanks for the feed back and gobble i dont work for the although it would be Lot better than my job i bet. I agree with you all on the distance thing but if they make one for a 30 yrd shot that holds that tight of a pattern im all in. On there fb the restriction was a 680 im assuming thats a 10 guage gun and they referred to nitro thats gotta be the ammo if so thats pricey ammunition, but if it works that well ill use it.
Quote from: hs strut on January 15, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
maybe im wrong but it seems turkey hunting is turning into something more along the lines of turkey shooting.what happened to trying to get a weary old tom in close.
most of them don't know how to do that
Quote from: hs strut on January 15, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
maybe im wrong but it seems turkey hunting is turning into something more along the lines of turkey shooting.what happened to trying to get a weary old tom in close.
I agree with this 100%. Lots of turkey snipers out there nowadays.
deadshot, I hope you didn't take my posts personally. You didn't say you endorsed long range shots at turkeys, you just asked about a choke.
And :welcomeOG:
I watched and commented on the video online, but my comments disappeared soon after.
Bob
Quote from: OldSchool on January 20, 2016, 11:04:34 AM
deadshot, I hope you didn't take my posts personally. You didn't say you endorsed long range shots at turkeys, you just asked about a choke.
And :welcomeOG:
I watched and commented on the video online, but my comments disappeared soon after.
Bob
Same here.
I've got no problem at all with people shooting at birds within the limits of their equipment and abilities, but the video showed what I considered flock shooting and gave the impression that all you have to do is buy this choke and magically your gun is a 60 yard killer, when the truth of the matter is it will turn a perfectly good tom into coyote food. My problem is with the video.
I don't know about the choke, but I need to know what call he uses. Whatever it is it must absolutely REPEL turkeys. Seems like he can't get a turkey in closer than 60 yards.
:funnyturkey:
That is an art some people can't or don't want to take the time to master. Myself I want to get him in at least 40 yds. I've only ever shot one past that and I'd hunted him for years and it was my last hunt of the season. I don't recommend shots past 45 yds at all. I did kill that Tom with nitro's and a jellyhead out of my 935. Don't know how far but honestly it was too far. I'll never do it again.
when I was young and foolish, I shot at a couple birds that were beyond the range of my gun. I had zero experience with turkeys, they were big and appeared to be closer than they were to a kid with sweat pouring into both eyes and trying to re swollow his heart.
I vowed not to do it again. I practiced with my calls and worked on estimating yardage. As I gained more experience I started to realise the closer I let the birds come, the more I got out of the experience. 30 yards is fun, at 20 things start to get real interesting and at 10 or less, It's about all the excitement I can stand these days. ;D
It's just my opinion and we all see things differently, but I want my birds close. If I can't talk him into 30 or preferably less, I'll hunt him again tomorrow. It's a win win situation the way I look at it. It's human nature to push the envelope, but why take the chance of crippling a bird at ridiculous ranges when the real fun lies in getting them up close and personal. :z-twocents:
Bob
Wisdom is knowledge properly used. It works when I read my Bible and it works when Iam able to get old tom in under 40! Cluck
Watched the video and don't like it. Even deer hunting I bring them in closer. I'd say you better forget shooting at 20 yards it probably patterns like a slug. I can't wait to see pattern results once these flood the market.
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yep I like them nearly in my lap before I shoot. I would rather have a choke that throws a nasty 40 yard 3" pattern with a good 10" corona. If the bird is at 15 yards you aren't likely to miss.
I personally think the claims of those shot ranges are absolute BS. If you watch, you'll see the wads either hitting very close to or in a couple cases actually hitting the bird. A standard wad WILL NOT do that past about 30-35 yards, I don't care what choke you shoot it through...
I talked to the owner of the choke company yesterday for a good bit, super nice guy. He's a former employee of another choke company that went out on his own with some new ideas. Told him I was more interested in a solid 20" pattern than a laser beam 10" or 3" core. Told him I wanted a .680 or .690 for my Benelli said he would make them and I could pick em up at the Convention cant beat that service. We'll see how they run.
We all get a little too involved in the choke hype but not everyone who is doing so is looking for the 50+ yard choke. Most are just looking for the choke/load/gun/barrel combo that is as effective at 40 yards as at it is at 30. Any shotgun with a full choke that shoots where you point it will give good turkey killing patterns out to 30 yards with any good turkey load that has hard lead or tungsten alloy shot.
I believe that most turkey hunters use lead shot and that requires the use of a turkey choke beyond 30 yards. You would think there would be common knowledge and an agreed formula by now but actually, most of the turkey chokes now available still underperform with lead shot at 40 yards. Shot improvements (tungsten/hevi-13 etc.) took up some of the slack and allow the use of almost any turkey choke but recent new product releases (by Winchester and Envirometal) prove that most of us are still looking for that lead turkey load and choke combination that will give good patterns out to 40 yards.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/turkey-hunting/403815-new-choke-out-anyone-heard-where-do-i-get-one.html
Are you sure you are not a salesman for them ?
Quote from: hookedspur on February 05, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/turkey-hunting/403815-new-choke-out-anyone-heard-where-do-i-get-one.html
Are you sure you are not a salesman for them ?
Told you I smelled BS.
:OGturkeyhead:A .30-06 can "smoke 'em" at 100 + yds too! Sadly, the claim of shooting a bird at 82 yards is not viewed as the embarrassment that it should be.
Quote from: SteelerFan on February 07, 2016, 05:32:04 PM
:OGturkeyhead:A .30-06 can "smoke 'em" at 100 + yds too! Sadly, the claim of shooting a bird at 82 yards is not viewed as the embarrassment that it should be.
i couldnt agree more.
Are these the black tapered ones at the convention?
OK boys, I just watched this video and it is terrible for turkey hunting. First off I call bs also on some of the shots. The wad was hitting the bird and like somebody previously stated would not happen at those distances. I understand with the Advancement's of ammo nowdays 60 yards is a possibility but not 80, that's bs. Secondly the idiot hunter sure doesn't know how to let the flock split for a clean shot on the intended target. Must be trying to kill the whole d**mn flock. They need to do better advertising cause this turned me off totally. And the chick hunting with him on one hunt said they thought it was 40 yds and it turned out to be 70. I know anybody that's been hunting for any amount of time can tell 40 yds from 70 even in a field. Just terrible that's all I got.
Quote from: fountain2 on February 12, 2016, 03:25:31 PM
Are these the black tapered ones at the convention?
Yes. These are the chokes. I asked them what ammo they were using to make these "long shots" and they told me they were using the nitro 4x5x7 loads and Win LB. The tapered portion of the choke looked thin walled to me, but I guess someone there bought one as the magic chokes for long range turkey shooting.
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That's what I thought too. They looked neat. Only had 2 pattern pics tho...they were dang good ones, but need more proof than that. I too was told they shot nitros
Quote from: SteelerFan on February 07, 2016, 05:32:04 PM
:OGturkeyhead:A .30-06 can "smoke 'em" at 100 + yds too! Sadly, the claim of shooting a bird at 82 yards is not viewed as the embarrassment that it should be.
You know I had a TV show that we supported for a short time. They did a video that had some crazy thing like that on it. I fussed with them about being on TV bragging about kill shots like that. Sad thing that video is on line some place.
^ and they still have the show...u still talk with em?? I stumbled upon the show the other morning.
I saw one in Nashville this weekend too
I picked up the .690 and the .680 he made for me at the convention and he gave me a .660 also. So far he's held true to his word and I will test drive these chokes with TSS and some lead this weekend temps in mid 60's should be some good test time. But I call BS on yardages in videos never had a wad fly further than 30yds or so. He mighta had the the little woman pacing them off or something. The owner of Wildside Armory and his partners seem legit but I don't have any respect for dude in vids and think he hurt their business more than he helped it.
Quote from: OldSchool on February 02, 2016, 09:13:10 AM
when I was young and foolish, I shot at a couple birds that were beyond the range of my gun. I had zero experience with turkeys, they were big and appeared to be closer than they were to a kid with sweat pouring into both eyes and trying to re swollow his heart.
I vowed not to do it again. I practiced with my calls and worked on estimating yardage. As I gained more experience I started to realise the closer I let the birds come, the more I got out of the experience. 30 yards is fun, at 20 things start to get real interesting and at 10 or less, It's about all the excitement I can stand these days. ;D
It's just my opinion and we all see things differently, but I want my birds close. If I can't talk him into 30 or preferably less, I'll hunt him again tomorrow. It's a win win situation the way I look at it. It's human nature to push the envelope, but why take the chance of crippling a bird at ridiculous ranges when the real fun lies in getting them up close and personal. :z-twocents:
Bob
Well said sir. The hunt seems to be escaping some of these mfg's... :camohat:
Alittle update on these chokes. I pattern tested the 2 I bought in my vinci and my buddies m2. I had ordered a 690 and he said he'd make me a 690 a 680 and let me try a 670 and a 660. My first pass thru convention he didnt have them unpacked so I came back later and he dug 2 chokes out that were unmarked I asked him about the 660 and the 670 to try and he handed me a used 660. I paid full retail for what was suppose to be a 680 and a 690, 80 bucks each.
Tested them at 40 yds with a 2 oz load of tss out of the "690" first not very good by tss standards prolly around 180 in the 10. Shot the 660 at same yardage same load resembled my factory flush modified choke performance covered whole sheet of contractor paper.
Took the 660 out installed in buddies m2 after seeing how good it did with a cheap 660 Primos choke and long beards thinking it may be the ticket with a lead load, wrong another blown pattern.
So next I screw the one he said was 680 and it was better than the 660 but worse than the "690" so I shot factory flush full with tss and long beards it out performed all 3 of the chokes he sold me and I concluded that range session.
Got home trying to figure out what was happening I mic the chokes factory full .695, the one he said was 690 is 680, the one he said was 680 is 670, the only one labeled was a 660 and it mic that. New installation of his chokes are very tight for the last 1/8th inch or so from bottoming out.
I called him after that and told chokes werent what I asked for and performed terrible out of our guns with the loads we were using and he said he'd make what I asked for and send to me. I got a call back said he'd make it right.
I bought one for my sbe2 in February at the NWTF convention. Hope to shot it this weekend I have a sumtoy to fall back on just wanted to compare the patterns.
Looks like a great choke to use at FD turkey shoots!
Quote from: hs strut on January 15, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
maybe im wrong but it seems turkey hunting is turning into something more along the lines of turkey shooting.what happened to trying to get a weary old tom in close.
Brother if that's not the instant gratification n every guys a winner generation. Shoot turkeys or deer further, baiting big game, motion dekes for turks n waterfowl, keeps going further n further. Sportsmanship or making things sporting are long gone in most guys minds. Bragging rights are more important
"Brother if that's not the instant gratification n every guys a winner generation. Shoot turkeys or deer further, baiting big game, motion dekes for turks n waterfowl, keeps going further n further. Sportsmanship or making things sporting are long gone in most guys minds. Bragging rights are more important "
Exactly!!!! ^^^^^^
Quote from: Bowguy on March 29, 2016, 12:22:14 PM
Quote from: hs strut on January 15, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
maybe im wrong but it seems turkey hunting is turning into something more along the lines of turkey shooting.what happened to trying to get a weary old tom in close.
Brother if that's not the instant gratification n every guys a winner generation. Shoot turkeys or deer further, baiting big game, motion dekes for turks n waterfowl, keeps going further n further. Sportsmanship or making things sporting are long gone in most guys minds. Bragging rights are more important
im afraid your right.
Quote from: surehuntsalot on January 19, 2016, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: hs strut on January 15, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
maybe im wrong but it seems turkey hunting is turning into something more along the lines of turkey shooting.what happened to trying to get a weary old tom in close.
most of them don't know how to do that
:z-winnersmiley:
I watched the posts on youtube,and let me say I dont doubt these people have got some good turkey rigs,but the distances of which they claim are nothin' more than LIES....PERIOD. Anyone do it the way you want but just remember you,no one else is on the hook when you teach the WRONG way to do things.There are more than just grown-ups that hunt.
There are minimal reviews on these chokes. Id be interested in 1 but not till after i see more reviews for them
It seems woodsmanship is becoming less valued by some hunters...
Quote from: vabeardhunter on April 03, 2016, 08:45:59 PM
It seems woodsmanship is becoming less valued by some hunters...
X2
Quote from: hs strut on April 01, 2016, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 29, 2016, 12:22:14 PM
Quote from: hs strut on January 15, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
maybe im wrong but it seems turkey hunting is turning into something more along the lines of turkey shooting.what happened to trying to get a weary old tom in close.
Brother if that's not the instant gratification n every guys a winner generation. Shoot turkeys or deer further, baiting big game, motion dekes for turks n waterfowl, keeps going further n further. Sportsmanship or making things sporting are long gone in most guys minds. Bragging rights are more important
im afraid your right.
Very right. Well said