Hello all, before I enlisted I had killed several birds with my 11-87 which had just a middle & front bead.
In order to increase performance and boost my confidence I'm looking into getting a used 835 with probably a 24" barrel or so. As far as the choke I have no idea yet.
I have done some reading on here and I like the idea of a holographic/ red dot site. Whatever I end up with, I don't want to deal with tunnel vision, and I'd like to shoot with both eyes open. I'd prefer no magnification. I know with some optics the "red dot" moves around so that your POI will still be on regardless if your face is positioned in the same exact spot on the comb of the stock.
I'm looking for advice as far as the options that would fit my criteria! Including pros/cons of each. Would a particular optic sit higher on the receiver than others? Or does that depend on the mount I use? Any advice/ opinons at all are appreciated.
Thanks,
Colton
Can't go wrong with a FastFire3 from Burris. The 336 base is the lowest way to mount it other than a speed bead setup, you can have your gun drilled and tapped to match the base or vice versa.
Alloutdoors- thank you for your reply.
I apologize for my little amount of education on optics such as the FF3. Is it set up so that the red dot moves around on the glass plane so that where ever your head is positioned, the POI will coincide with the POA? Compared to a red dot tube/scope, where the dot is in the center at all times? If I am wrong please correct me!
Quote from: alloutdoors on August 28, 2014, 06:16:27 PM
Can't go wrong with a FastFire3 from Burris. The 336 base is the lowest way to mount it other than a speed bead setup, you can have your gun drilled and tapped to match the base or vice versa.
I do appreciate any one elses advice in advance. Any other reccomendations other than the FF3?
How is the durability on the FF3? Does Burris stand behind their product? What are the major differences between the FF3 and other reflex sights like the Truglos, Eotech etc.
-Colton
Quote from: Turkey Terror on August 28, 2014, 11:09:10 PM
Alloutdoors- thank you for your reply.
I apologize for my little amount of education on optics such as the FF3. Is it set up so that the red dot moves around on the glass plane so that where ever your head is positioned, the POI will coincide with the POA? Compared to a red dot tube/scope, where the dot is in the center at all times? If I am wrong please correct me!
While not exactly technically correct, yes you have the right idea. The FF3 is, for all practical purposes, parallax free. As long as you can see the dot, that's where your shot is going, even when viewed from an angle where the dot appears to be at the edge of the glass.
Quote from: Turkey Terror on August 28, 2014, 11:09:10 PM
How is the durability on the FF3? Does Burris stand behind their product? What are the major differences between the FF3 and other reflex sights like the Truglos, Eotech etc.
The FF sights have a very good reputation for durability, and Burris offers a no questions asked lifetime guarantee on them.
Thank you for clearing that up for me.
Quote from: alloutdoors on August 28, 2014, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: Turkey Terror on August 28, 2014, 11:09:10 PM
Alloutdoors- thank you for your reply.
I apologize for my little amount of education on optics such as the FF3. Is it set up so that the red dot moves around on the glass plane so that where ever your head is positioned, the POI will coincide with the POA? Compared to a red dot tube/scope, where the dot is in the center at all times? If I am wrong please correct me!
While not exactly technically correct, yes you have the right idea. The FF3 is, for all practical purposes, parallax free. As long as you can see the dot, that's where your shot is going, even when viewed from an angle where the dot appears to be at the edge of the glass.
Quote from: Turkey Terror on August 28, 2014, 11:09:10 PM
How is the durability on the FF3? Does Burris stand behind their product? What are the major differences between the FF3 and other reflex sights like the Truglos, Eotech etc.
The FF sights have a very good reputation for durability, and Burris offers a no questions asked lifetime guarantee on them.
Again, any other input is appreciated from other users. Thanks
Colton
I agree 100% with alloutdoors, the only things I could add is that the FF3 is parallax free to 150 yards and it has a low battery indicator that will not let you run out of juice unexpectedly. The battery is rated for 10,000 hours. You can shoot with both eyes open if you want. Waterproof and shockproof. In my opinion you get many high dollar options for the money it takes to purchase a FF3. Yes I like the FF3.
Thank you! Good information, I appreciate it.
Quote from: d.winsor on August 29, 2014, 12:18:08 PM
I agree 100% with alloutdoors, the only things I could add is that the FF3 is parallax free to 150 yards and it has a low battery indicator that will not let you run out of juice unexpectedly. The battery is rated for 10,000 hours. You can shoot with both eyes open if you want. Waterproof and shockproof. In my opinion you get many high dollar options for the money it takes to purchase a FF3. Yes I like the FF3.
Interested in what everyone else has to say as well. Thanks
I've had about every type of optic known to man on my turkey shotgun, but I have a burris ff on my gun now. It's light, sits low on the right mount, durable and pretty clear and reasonably priced. It does have a lifetime warranty now too. It's not an aimpoint ,acog or eotech qualitywise, but it's about perfect for my turkey gun uses and for the price a great deal. I'm no fanboy of any company, especially Burris, but the ff is the only optic I want on my turkey gun.(right now-lol)
Quote from: CrustyRusty on September 02, 2014, 05:45:18 PM
I've had about every type of optic known to man on my turkey shotgun, but I have a burris ff on my gun now. It's light, sits low on the right mount, durable and pretty clear and reasonably priced. It does have a lifetime warranty now too. It's not an aimpoint ,acog or eotech qualitywise, but it's about perfect for my turkey gun uses and for the price a great deal. I'm no fanboy of any company, especially Burris, but the ff is the only optic I want on my turkey gun.(right now-lol)
Thanks.
Another vote for the Burris FF series. I have an FFIII, and my son has an FFII.
Our guns topped with FF series sights and Burris 336 bases have accounted for 5 birds in 2 years between mine and my son's guns.
Absolutely the best turkey optic out there, hands down.
Does anyone know if I were to buy an FF3 today, does it come with a protective hood or sunshade or anything to protect the lens? If not, is there one available in the aftermarket?
Yes it comes with a plastic hood. It's ugly but works..
I have both Burris and EOTech.
You cannot go wrong with either one.
The EOTech is bigger, but I really like the circle being around the dot for your sight. My turkey gun has the EOTech on it. My daughter uses the FF II.
God Bless,
David B.
Aimpoint 900SC or Burris FFIII :icon_thumright:
Quote from: beagler on October 02, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
Aimpoint 900SC or Burris FFIII :icon_thumright:
Beagler- Sorry I've been very busy lately. Pros/Cons of each? Any weaknesses of either that you have experienced in certain situations?
If Im not mistaken the Aimpoint has a non transferrable warranty of 5 years or something like that, maybe 10.
Thanks
Colton
I can't answer for beagler, but I have owned both products and have used aimpoint and eotech products both personally and professionally. The warranty is a non issue for an aimpoint, they are extremely well made and it is doubtful you will ever have an issue. The only downsides to the 9000sc are that it is a bit large, especially compared to the burris, the rings it comes with are garbage and I find it to exhibit a bit of tunnelvision. The optics are clear and the dot is quite precise as well as adjustments.
The burris is small and light. Clarity is good but does not compare to any aimpoint. Adjustments are good and are fine for a shotgun. I find it easier for two eyes open shooting. Luckily the ff sights are covered by a great warranty now which is good because it's not as robust as an aimpoint. The sight is not as well made as the 9000 but I still give the nod to the burris, but only because of my personal wants. Those features are the size, lightness and warranty and its perfectly adequate for turkey hunting.
Quote from: Turkey Terror on October 16, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: beagler on October 02, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
Aimpoint 900SC or Burris FFIII :icon_thumright:
Beagler- Sorry I've been very busy lately. Pros/Cons of each? Any weaknesses of either that you have experienced in certain situations?
If Im not mistaken the Aimpoint has a non transferrable warranty of 5 years or something like that, maybe 10.
Thanks
Colton
So far my 2 favorite red-dots are the bushnell trs 25 and the burris ff3. Both are great sights for the money. :z-twocents:
I started with a Bushnell red/green dot that was great, but was a tube with very narrow window. Went next to a mueller quick shot and was great, but sat high and I had snow get in and block the reflected red dot. Then tried FFIII. Worked very well on my sons 20 g Remington. I was unable to have enough adjustment to get it lined in on my 24" 835. Sent back to Burris and they sent me a new one, still unable to get it lined in due to lack of enough adjustment. I am looking at an Eotech MRDS, and have asked Santa for it. Burris is great and my son is a dead eye with it. The company is 2nd to none.