Poll
Question:
Yes or No
Option 1: Multi bearded allowed
Option 2: Multi bearded not allowed
We have had some rule changes through the years
- we would like to hear everyone's opinions
Vote yes if you think that the multiple bearded gobblers should be allowed to be scored for the contest ( the total length of ALL of the beards )
--or--
Vote no if only the longest beard from a multi bearded gobbler should be allowed to be scored
Depending on the outcome we may have a contest for the highest scoring non- typical gobbler of the year ( no registration necessary )
It would be nice to hear some opinions on both sides of this. I don't lean strongly one way or the other on this one, but at the moment I'm slightly in favor of just leaving it how it is (meaning count the multi-beards).
My reasons:
1. This contest is supposed to just be for fun. There are no prizes. It doesn't actually matter who wins. If anyone feels that winning or losing in this contest is actually some kind of reflection on their skill as a turkey hunter, I feel bad for them.
2. Multiple bearded birds add some excitement. One awesome bird can really swing things for your team and it means just about anyone is in the hunt right until the end.
3. I think the only reason to not count multiple beards is in an effort to make things "fair", but the truth is that it would probably be impossible to ever make this contest truly fair. Is it "fair" if a bunch of guys from Iowa all get together and make a team where every member can shoot corn fed midwest gobblers that all weigh 26lbs or more? How about a team from the south where guys shoot birds with 11 and 12" beards fairly regularly, vs us guys in the northeast where beards over 10" are a rarity because of the winter snows and rocky terrain? Same goes for spurs with birds from sandy lowlands vs mountain birds. Then there is the issue of the guy who can't afford to travel and who lives in a state with a 1 bird limit vs the guy who lives in a state where he can shoot 4 or 5 birds or who travels and may have the chance to shoot 10 or more birds a year (with 10 or more chances to upgrade). Frankly, I don't have a problem with it the way it is now, but if it is fairness that we want to address there is a lot more to consider than just multiple beards.
I'm withholding my vote for the time being. I would really like to see some other opinions either for or against.
YES!!!
Why punish someone for killing a unique bird. If we do not count all the birds then it looks like we are giving out participation trophies.
Everyone here has the same chance at killing a multi bearded bird.
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I think they should be allowed to be scored.
Yes
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Quote from: davisd9 on December 15, 2013, 08:24:03 PM
YES!!!
Why punish someone for killing a unique bird. If we do not count all the birds then it looks like we are giving out participation trophies.
Everyone here has the same chance at killing a multi bearded bird.
Amen brother :you_rock:
If I was fortunate enough to kill a multi beard, I wouldn't want it to count against me. -Yes for the multi beards!! :happy0064:
God Bless,
David B.
Yes let them count.
Yes, count them.
Yep, let them count, they are after all part of the great game bird that we all love to chase every year!
Yes ,,,With very clear pictures
Yes
yesser !! :anim_25:
Yes
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Only if P&Y deductions are in place. lol
yeah allow them but call also bs on the measurements people put on here giving an extra 1/4 inch on spurs. if it ain't measured correct remove the bird from their team score.
Quote from: davisd9 on December 15, 2013, 08:24:03 PMYES!!! Why punish someone for killing a unique bird. If we do not count all the birds then it looks like we are giving out participation trophies.
:agreed: :icon_thumright:
Personally, I've never killed a multi-beard, but I've been on several hunts where friends I hunted with did. So yes, everyone certainly has an opportunity to kill one. I'd hate to kill my first only to have him not be counted.
Yes unless they are team ;D
Let the count down begin until opening day
Quote from: alloutdoors on December 15, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
It would be nice to hear some opinions on both sides of this. I don't lean strongly one way or the other on this one, but at the moment I'm slightly in favor of just leaving it how it is (meaning count the multi-beards).
My reasons:
1. This contest is supposed to just be for fun. There are no prizes. It doesn't actually matter who wins. If anyone feels that winning or losing in this contest is actually some kind of reflection on their skill as a turkey hunter, I feel bad for them.
2. Multiple bearded birds add some excitement. One awesome bird can really swing things for your team and it means just about anyone is in the hunt right until the end.
3. I think the only reason to not count multiple beards is in an effort to make things "fair", but the truth is that it would probably be impossible to ever make this contest truly fair. Is it "fair" if a bunch of guys from Iowa all get together and make a team where every member can shoot corn fed midwest gobblers that all weigh 26lbs or more? How about a team from the south where guys shoot birds with 11 and 12" beards fairly regularly, vs us guys in the northeast where beards over 10" are a rarity because of the winter snows and rocky terrain? Same goes for spurs with birds from sandy lowlands vs mountain birds. Then there is the issue of the guy who can't afford to travel and who lives in a state with a 1 bird limit vs the guy who lives in a state where he can shoot 4 or 5 birds or who travels and may have the chance to shoot 10 or more birds a year (with 10 or more chances to upgrade). Frankly, I don't have a problem with it the way it is now, but if it is fairness that we want to address there is a lot more to consider than just multiple beards.
I'm withholding my vote for the time being. I would really like to see some other opinions either for or against.
I agree with this assessment entirely. However, there is one way to make the contest fair to everybody, and that is to have a random drawing of team members every year. That way, the outcome is based on random luck-of-the-draw rather than hand-picked teams that, in essence, determine the winner before the contest ever begins.
It sounds like some may interpret the poll to say not to count the bird at all. I think it says to count only the longest beard. My vote is to count them all. If my team was winning on the last day and somebody beat us out with a multi-beard I would be happy for the guy or gal. If somebody can win the super bowl on a bs penalty or fumble or a pass that was tipped in the air 4 or 5 times surely we could win a turkey contest by killing a multi-beard.
I think we should also get bonus points for shooting a bird over 60 Yrds... :funnyturkey:
Just kidding, Just kidding... :goofball:
Yes, If I ever kill one of those mutant birds I want it counted.
I say only count multi-beards if they have more than one beard.
I have harvested well over 100 birds - notes say only 3 had an extra beard.
to get a crack at one is unique - a trophy to most. Most times it is not known until after you look. Shot a 10 " double beard once and didn't realize it until the person helping me weigh the bird found it. I was more impressed with the spurs..... :funnyturkey:
Yes it should be allowed.
Yes it can be put in its own category but is scored the using the NTWF calculator and becomes part of the teams total score.
The contest is for fun - do think people are losing sight of this.
Yep.. I agree with the one bird making a huge swing theory. Count them all.
I vote yes
I fine with letting all multiple beards count.
Gobblers that have extra beards are genetic mutants and therefore should have points deducted from their score. I say we score 'em based on the primary beard and then deduct the extra beard lengths from the score.... :funnyturkey: :z-winnersmiley: :funnyturkey:
In favor..
Yes.
Quote from: rafsobbob on December 29, 2013, 09:15:21 AM
Yes unless they are team ;D
Let the count down begin until opening day
Oh this is gonna be a good year.
Quote from: guesswho on January 02, 2014, 07:22:50 PM
I say only count multi-beards if they have more than one beard.
I like his way of thinking.
Yes
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Yep
Yes .
Quote from: hookedspur on December 18, 2013, 07:16:39 AM
Yes ,,,With very clear pictures
This! Count them as long as there are good picts to show the multiple beards
Absolutely yes. First off lets all remember this is all about making turkey season even more fun than it already is. We are forming a TN team jsut for fun because bama keeps winning. All in fun. If a unique bird adds to that fun I say so be it. Where we live good spurs are hard to come by but our body weights are good. Buttttt multiple beards aren't that uncommon here. Makes up for the spurs. Just remember to keep it fun and friendly. reflexl
YES :icon_thumright:
Quote from: rafsobbob on December 29, 2013, 09:15:21 AM
Yes unless they are team ;D
Uh huh...
I'll vote yes for multi-beards. And for team ;D
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