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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 12 ga Winchester turkey gun patterns => Topic started by: eddie234 on June 13, 2012, 06:58:23 PM

Title: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 13, 2012, 06:58:23 PM
My new choke came in the mail today so I had to go try it out. I'm shooting my Winchester 1300 with the tru glo SSX choke, 3in Hevi 13, 2 oz of #6.
I was hoping for a little better at 40 yards but I have to admit it is the best combination I've tried so far. 20, 30 and 40 yards
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/100_1085.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/100_1084.jpg)
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Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: Gut_Pile on June 13, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
Dead turkey all day long
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: captin_hook on June 13, 2012, 10:19:21 PM
Yep, dead turkey. Ditch the turkey targets, shoot at a big piece of cardboard while aming at a small circle in the middle of the cardboard. Make a 10 inch circle around the most dense part of your pattern. Count em up. Over 100 at 40 yds and your ready to go. If you have adjustable sights make your move and your ready to go. If you only have a bead, you'll know where to hold for your best pattern.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: surehuntsalot on June 15, 2012, 07:17:48 PM
looks good to me
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 16, 2012, 08:33:31 AM
I was shooting off a solid rest, using sandbags. I shot the 40 yard target first then the 30 and 20 yards last. that guns kicks bad so I took the longest shot first before the kick messed me up. It may be more shooter than gun.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: learn2hide on June 16, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
hard to see hits on the 40 yard target, you've definitely got a great 30 yard gun/choke combo there...agree with the others try the large paper/cardboard with a point of aim then compare to point of impact and pattern just so you know your effective range...proves that a classic gun can get the job done...
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: lowoctane on June 16, 2012, 03:32:53 PM
Dead bird! Have you tried the 3" Hevi 7's?
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 16, 2012, 09:39:26 PM
Really don't want to go with anything lower than 6's, I was hoping for a tighter group not just more holes. Clark game me some advice. I'll try it and attempt another pattern test.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 24, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
I spent last Sunday polishing my barrel, it didnt seem to improve a whole lot but it did center and tighten things up.
What do you think?

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/100_1090.jpg)
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: learn2hide on June 25, 2012, 09:45:58 AM
Dead turkey...still hard to tell what you've got as far as numbers comparison without the bigger paper.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 25, 2012, 04:22:13 PM
Big paper
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/100_1089.jpg)
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: Punisher on June 25, 2012, 05:01:29 PM
IMO, I think you have it choked down too much according to all the big holes in the pattern.  Mine shoots well with an IC .660 for Hevi 3/2/6 (185-200/10") and Win. Ext. 3" 6s (145-160/10") and a Kicks .660 for lead.  Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: learn2hide on June 25, 2012, 06:32:14 PM
find the center of the densest part of the pattern, draw a 10" circle around that then count the pellets...there are a lot of small holes in that pattern but looks pretty dense just a bit high.  If that's your impact point then move your sights down a bit and you'll be in business. What choke/constriction are you using?
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 25, 2012, 06:54:32 PM
The choke is a strut stopper from tru glo. Const. is 643,
I've used a comp n choke in 655 with Winchester xtended range 6's 3"  with about the same results. I was looking to tighten up my 40 yard pattern.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: sippy cup on June 25, 2012, 08:29:42 PM
 :turkey2: great pattern
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: SumToy on June 25, 2012, 09:18:15 PM
Open the choke up or go to smaller shot.   :anim_25:
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: learn2hide on June 25, 2012, 09:28:37 PM
.643 is really tight...WOW what does it look like at ideal turkey distance, like 15-25 yards...nothing wrong with shooting them 35 to 40 but I know I'm jumpy enough to miss one at close range if its too tight...I'd be interested to see if any of the .665 chokes make a difference to your setup...seems like the tighter constrictions all do the same thing...
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 25, 2012, 10:49:13 PM
My very first post has my 20 and 30 yard pattern.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 25, 2012, 10:53:54 PM
I originally had a choke in 665 and was told by everyone it had too many open spaces in my pattern.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 26, 2012, 08:38:16 AM
This was my pattern with the Jellyhead, Like I said everyone was telling me I had too many open spaces within the pattern.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/DSCF0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 26, 2012, 11:09:01 AM
I normally use a Comp n choke const. of .655 with 3" winchester xtended range #6's.
( the 30 yard pattern was shooter error)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/DSCF0011.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/DSCF0012.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/DSCF0013-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: learn2hide on June 26, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
I'd keep the Truglo, or shoot the comp n choke, they look similar...make sure to adjust the sight or your aim so you're not shooting high and you should be good out to 40 yards...IMO high pellets are useless...at least pellets low can still strike the bird...Also recognize the fact that at 40 yards you do have some holes so I'd definitely look for open shots at that point like fields, clearings, logging roads to get your whole pattern downrange...if you're in the brush/woods IMO you have a great 30 yard gun...just my thoughts.   We'll find out next Spring!   :gobble: :fud:
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 26, 2012, 09:00:26 PM
I guess I'm like everyone else, I'm always looking to improve my pattern. But it seems i always go back to my original setup.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: learn2hide on June 26, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
I think some simply seem to reach their limit...or at least I give up before finding anything better...I had a Remington 1187 that would shoot its own factory flush full choke the same as an undertaker and jellyhead....OK with lead to about 33 yards after that you'd have to get lucky.  Even with the Hevi 13 it didn't matter, you still got about 33/35 yards of legit killing patterns that was it.  I have seen other people have great luck with that gun.  In mine, I was out of options, modify it (forcing cones etc) new barrel or give up...I moved on.  My X2 took 4 different chokes, 2 load combos before I found a real good one.  Same thing with rifles, some shoot great, some take a lot of tinkering to find the right combo.  The only thing I'd say if you really wanted to eliminate the guessing and obstacles buy a custom choke.  Call SumToy Customs or Indian Creek or Rob Roberts Gunworks, explain what you have and they will recommend a choke for you and swap them out till you find what you want...It can get expensive but if the best quality is what you want, at least you'll know when you shoot that you have a top quality choke. 
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: TnTurk on June 26, 2012, 11:48:02 PM
Open the choke up or go to smaller shot.   :anim_25:

 x2   The best pattern I've seen with a 1300 have been either with a IC .660 or a PG .670 using HS 3-2-7. Both chokes cosistantly averaged between 240 and 260 in a 10" circle. It seems you like #6 HS, so I would open the choke up a little.  Hevi Shot deos not need to be constricted like lead to get a good hunting pattern out to 40 yards.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: allaboutshooting on June 27, 2012, 12:14:38 PM
Big paper
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/eddie234/1300%20Pattern/100_1089.jpg)

From what I can see, it looks like a pretty dense pattern, just a little high. I'd shoot at least 3 more shots at big paper and then see how your patterns are looking.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: eddie234 on June 28, 2012, 07:02:03 PM
What about the hevi shot choke? It's ed is .662
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: TnTurk on June 28, 2012, 08:41:39 PM
What about the hevi shot choke? It's ed is .662
Never seem a 1300 pattern with the HS .662, but always thought it would be a great choke to try with #6 or #7 hs loads. Who knows, it may be a winner.
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: penna shooter on March 14, 2017, 05:54:27 AM
Noice....Well done....
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: penna shooter on March 16, 2017, 08:24:34 PM
1300 is proven... :turkey2:
Title: Re: Winchester 1300 Pattern
Post by: penna shooter on March 26, 2017, 06:06:13 AM
Looking good