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Title: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 06, 2011, 10:42:06 PM
To polish a barrel using this method the following items will be needed.
this has been a proven safe process that has shown great results!!
you will see a mirror finish,better patterns(in most cases ) as well as easier cleanup of your barrel !!!!!!
Green Scotch Brite
J&B Bore cleaner www.Brownells.com (http://www.Brownells.com)
J&B Bore Bright
Kroil Kreeping oil  Brownells.com (http://www.Brownells.com) OR www.kanolabs.com (http://www.kanolabs.com)

A Drill
Cleaning rod (i use a Hoppes 1/4"- 3pc without the handle)
20ga brush for 12ga ---.410 or 44cal. brush for 20ga.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0057.jpg)

NOTICE NOT recommended to polish chambers,ports,or chrome lined barrels.
it is NOT Recommended to polish barrel with turkey choke installed.
use a MODIFIED OR IMPROVED CHOKE during polishing process

i have polished over gas ports and barrel ports with No ill effects. but use caution. after polishing be sure to clean all materials out of ports.

using a empty 12ga. hull and a empty 20ga. hull i drill out the primer to the size of my cleaning rod. i insert the 20ga. hull into the 12ga. hull so that brass is showing on both ends.

for 3"chamber use 3"hull for 3.5"chamber use 3.5"hull
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/huntingpics072.jpg)

this will act as a guide for the rod and a stop for your brush as well as protecting the chamber from being polished.

1. wrap scotch brite around brush
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0058.jpg)
2. apply Kroil and J&b Bore cleaner.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0061.jpg)
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0062.jpg)
3. insert into chamber push forward until you can insert shell guide fully into chamber.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCopyofCIMG0063.jpg)
4. start drill as you move rod towards muzzle.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0070.jpg)
     caution--- do Not let patch spin in one place in barrel. rod must be in forward or backward motion while drill is spinning rod

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0069.jpg)

i usually do 100 or more passes using J&B Bore Cleaner
then swab the barrel with Liquid bore cleaner (of your choice) then follow with a couple dry patches to clean out the barrel .

Next step would be to follow steps 1 through 4 using J&B Bore Polish and Kroil.
i usually do 100 or more passes using J&B Bore Polish as well.

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCopyofCIMG0068.jpg)
add fresh Scotch Brite and J&B and Kroil as needed through out the process

after polishing is complete flush barrel with liquid bore cleaner (your choice) then clean and dry patch.

besure to clean all ports and choke threads when finished

the following pics of what comes out of a barrel during polishing. to the eye this barrel was as clean as possible. i had cleaned it with some of the best solvent on the market. then dry patched until the patch came out white.

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0067.jpg)

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0071.jpg)




if you have any questions please feel free to PM me.
           Shawn
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: Wycliff on February 06, 2011, 11:37:49 PM
Thanks for reposting this Im going to polish my barrel this weekend and could not remember exactly how it was done.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: joshua on February 07, 2011, 07:47:15 AM
Shawn, U da man. :you_rock:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: RaspyD on February 07, 2011, 08:39:13 AM
Shawn IS the man when it comes to barrel polishing!!
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: schief on February 07, 2011, 09:58:58 AM
wondering why it's not recommended to polish chamber. i like idea of using the shell.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: yella yelper on February 07, 2011, 10:59:46 AM
Here are some old before and after pictures I had from polishing a brand new 870 barrel right out of the box.

Before
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p65/run-n-gun/485927ae.jpg)

After
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p65/run-n-gun/fde96b1f.jpg)
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 07, 2011, 11:17:19 AM
wondering why it's not recommended to polish chamber. i like idea of using the shell.
if you polish a chamber you are taking the chance of making it to slick for the shell. causing it not to hold when you fire the gun.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: ShotgunDave on February 07, 2011, 02:41:55 PM
How about I just send you my barrel and you do it for me?  haha
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: ul ess on February 07, 2011, 09:02:43 PM
Is it possible to use Flitz in place of JB Bore Bright?
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 07, 2011, 09:28:41 PM
Is it possible to use Flitz in place of JB Bore Bright?
i have never tried using anything but J&B. there have been others that have used just about every kind of polish you can thing of. someone posted that they used turtle wax. J&B was made to use on firearms. so that is what i use. i do not believe on taking chances when dealing with a barrel
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: pullit on February 07, 2011, 09:33:06 PM
Is it possible to use Flitz in place of JB Bore Bright?
i have never tried using anything but J&B. there have been others that have used just about every kind of polish you can thing of. someone posted that they used turtle wax. J&B was made to use on firearms. so that is what i use. i do not believe on taking chances when dealing with a barrel

I agree, I don't want to save a dollar or two and screw up a barrel.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: chatterbox on February 08, 2011, 05:31:17 AM
Shawn IS the man when it comes to barrel polishing!!
Can't add more to this post. Shawn has polished my barrel twice, and the results are simply AMAZING! It is the best way to get the most out of your barrel.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: keyser12ga on February 08, 2011, 10:19:23 AM
Just to reiterate what he said, don't use a turkey choke in your barrel when you do this!  It's like hitting a brick wall and will cause the rod to flex or chatter against the barrel wall.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: devin4484 on February 08, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
you should make a youtube video on this.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: turkeytromp on February 08, 2011, 04:46:54 PM
Do we have any positive reports on polishing the benelli crio barrels ?
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: EMSDJ2 on February 09, 2011, 09:06:09 AM
I was just wondering how often a guy has to polish a barrel?
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 09, 2011, 10:26:20 AM
I was just wondering how often a guy has to polish a barrel?
it really depends on how much you shoot. if you just check your pattern and hunt it could last up to 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: EMSDJ2 on February 09, 2011, 10:33:06 AM
I was just wondering how often a guy has to polish a barrel?
it really depends on how much you shoot. if you just check your pattern and hunt it could last up to 2 or 3 years.

OK thanks
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: FullChoke on February 11, 2011, 11:57:27 AM
I have noticed that the inside of the barrel in my 870 20 gauge doesn't appear smooth, but instead looks sort of wavy when you look through it. I wonder what effect this has on pattering and if polishing will help smooth it out.

Any ideas?

FC
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: timbrhuntr on February 11, 2011, 01:22:40 PM
Thanks for the re-post.  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 11, 2011, 02:43:16 PM
I have noticed that the inside of the barrel in my 870 20 gauge doesn't appear smooth, but instead looks sort of wavy when you look through it. I wonder what effect this has on pattering and if polishing will help smooth it out.

Any ideas?

FC
polishing it might not take it all out but it will help. it would also help your patterns. what you are probably seeing is tool marks.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: agturkey on February 11, 2011, 08:31:36 PM
They are out of Kroil oil....but stuff ordered to do mine again...

Can you explain in more detail what the 20ga shell is used for?
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 11, 2011, 08:58:39 PM
They are out of Kroil oil....but stuff ordered to do mine again...

Can you explain in more detail what the 20ga shell is used for?
you insert the 20ga. hull so that the brass is out. you should see 12ga. brass on one end and the 20ga.brass on the other. the 20ga. brass will work as a stop for your brush. so you do not pull the brush and scotch brite into the 12ga. hull . it also will help as a guide for the rod.

the best price i have found for Kroil www.kanolabs.com (http://www.kanolabs.com)(phone) 615-833-4101 they will never be out of stock
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: Turkey Terror on February 13, 2011, 05:17:32 PM
A few weeks ago I used a cleaning rod and put that into the drill; and put on a 16 gauge brush and wrapped 0000 steel wool around it. I soaked it in Hoppes 9 solvent. I did the inside of my 1969 Ithaca 16 gauge featherlight deer slayer barrel. I got every last piece of lead out of that barrel. It took me over 45 minutes but it was worth it.

Before patterning my 11-87 for turkey hunting, should I do the same thing that I did in my Ithaca 16 gauge barrel except with a 12 gauge brush? Or should I do something different? The barrel has some plastic buildup from wads and it probably has a little lead buildup.

Thanks in advance
Colton
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 13, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
Turkey Terror
it would surprise me if it had any lead build up. most of the loads today have a pretty good wad to protect the barrel. for Wad build up you can use shooters choice or Butches and it will clear it out quick. i do not use steel wool on any of my barrels (some do but i don't) so i would not recommend that to you. i would recommend that you use J&B and KROIL and polish your barrel using scotch brite or a cotton patch.

Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: pullit on February 14, 2011, 07:57:58 AM
Turkey Terror
 i do not use steel wool on any of my barrels (some do but i don't) so i would not recommend that to you. i would recommend that you use J&B and KROIL and polish your barrel using scotch brite or a cotton patch.


+1
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: ILIKEHEVI-13 on February 14, 2011, 09:46:37 AM
Turkey Terror
 i do not use steel wool on any of my barrels (some do but i don't) so i would not recommend that to you. i would recommend that you use J&B and KROIL and polish your barrel using scotch brite or a cotton patch.


+1

+2
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: goblr77 on February 14, 2011, 01:50:27 PM
I'm gonna try it this weekend. Have an 835 and a 20ga 500.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: njdevilsb on February 14, 2011, 02:34:50 PM
I'm ordering the stuff to do it today.  Big thanks to VAHUNTER for answering all of my questions.  I may have a few more once I get the stuff.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: Turkey Terror on February 14, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
Turkey Terror
it would surprise me if it had any lead build up. most of the loads today have a pretty good wad to protect the barrel. for Wad build up you can use shooters choice or Butches and it will clear it out quick. i do not use steel wool on any of my barrels (some do but i don't) so i would not recommend that to you. i would recommend that you use J&B and KROIL and polish your barrel using scotch brite or a cotton patch.



Shooters Choice solvent? And how do I go about putting that on the inside of my barrel? Soak a 12 g brush in it and use a cleaning rod in a drill? Or something different?

Thanks
Colton
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: eight bore on February 14, 2011, 04:38:54 PM
Here is the link to Deep Cleaning your barrel
http://allaboutshooting.com/article_info.php?articles_id=282
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 14, 2011, 06:22:36 PM
Turkey Terror
it would surprise me if it had any lead build up. most of the loads today have a pretty good wad to protect the barrel. for Wad build up you can use shooters choice or Butches and it will clear it out quick. i do not use steel wool on any of my barrels (some do but i don't) so i would not recommend that to you. i would recommend that you use J&B and KROIL and polish your barrel using scotch brite or a cotton patch.



Shooters Choice solvent? And how do I go about putting that on the inside of my barrel? Soak a 12 g brush in it and use a cleaning rod in a drill? Or something different?

Thanks
Colton
yes Shooters choice or Butches solvent will take the plastic from the wad out of your barrel. i usually just soak a patch and scrub the barrel. then follow with a brush. you will see it peel up .
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: njdevilsb on February 18, 2011, 10:39:13 PM
I just did this to my 535 this afternoon.  It came out great.  It'll just about blind you looking down the barrel now aimed at a light.  Thanks for this post and the help VAHUNTER.  I'm going to pickup a .410 brush tomorrow and do my 20 gauge and my dad wants his done now before the season rolls around.  Can't wait for warmer weather so I can compare some results.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 19, 2011, 06:38:59 PM
I just did this to my 535 this afternoon.  It came out great.  It'll just about blind you looking down the barrel now aimed at a light.  Thanks for this post and the help VAHAUNTER.  I'm going to pickup a .410 brush tomorrow and do my 20 gauge and my dad wants his done now before the season rolls around.  Can't wait for warmer weather so I can compare some results.
thats great!!!! you should see some positive results . i have done my 835 a couple times. each time i do it it improves the pattern even more.make sure you post the results after you pattern it :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: BowBendr on February 19, 2011, 08:44:51 PM
Well, I did my 835 today.
I started off by using Clarks' deep cleaning method and couldn't believe what came out of the barrel by following the directions exactly as printed. When I was done the barrel was really clean and fairly shiney.

Next, I moved on to the actual polishing and must admit that I did not follow Shawns exact directions and was less than pleased with the results. I had everything I needed for the job except Kroil and JB Bore Brite. I started off with the green scotchbrite pads and JB Bore Cleaning Compound and used a mixture of dark thread cutting oil and Marvel Mystery oil.

I made about 150 passes with this combo and could tell that my slurry coming out was awful thin....I didn't hurt anything and the barrel is getting bright but I believe i'll be ordering the Kroil and Bore brite tonite so I can achieve a mirror like finish when done properly.

When all else fails, read the directions.... :fud: :newmascot:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: blackswamp on February 20, 2011, 09:33:23 AM
Has anybody ever done this & put it on Youtube? I would like to see a video of this being done.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 20, 2011, 09:31:19 PM
Well, I did my 835 today.
I started off by using Clarks' deep cleaning method and couldn't believe what came out of the barrel by following the directions exactly as printed. When I was done the barrel was really clean and fairly shiney.

Next, I moved on to the actual polishing and must admit that I did not follow Shawns exact directions and was less than pleased with the results. I had everything I needed for the job except Kroil and JB Bore Brite. I started off with the green scotchbrite pads and JB Bore Cleaning Compound and used a mixture of dark thread cutting oil and Marvel Mystery oil.

I made about 150 passes with this combo and could tell that my slurry coming out was awful thin....I didn't hurt anything and the barrel is getting bright but I believe i'll be ordering the Kroil and Bore brite tonite so I can achieve a mirror like finish when done properly.

When all else fails, read the directions.... :fud: :newmascot:
it only took me doing 1 barrel without using Kroil to teach me a lesson. you will not get the bebefit of polishing if you do not use the right materials !!!!
for 2 or 3 years i polished all my barrels with just the J&B Bore cleaner and Kroil. last year i added the second step which is J&B Bore Bright and Kroil. i was amazed !! i always tell everyone the same thing after i send them there barrel.
at the muzzle end of the barrel lay a newspaper or magazine, hold the barrel 1/4"away from the print. when you look into the chamber you will see the writing in the barrel.that is a mirror shine!!!! thats as good as it gets. Shawn
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: FullChoke on February 21, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
Vahunter,

In your original post, you recommend using a .44 caliber brass brush to polish the barrel of a 20 gauge. You also recommend using a 20 gauge brush for a 12 gauge barrel.

Why do recommend the smaller brushes?

Also, can the cleaning with the J&B Bore Cleaner be substituted with a deep cleaning using Hoppe's?

Thanks.

FullChoke
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 21, 2011, 07:22:25 PM
Vahunter,

In your original post, you recommend using a .44 caliber brass brush to polish the barrel of a 20 gauge. You also recommend using a 20 gauge brush for a 12 gauge barrel.

Why do recommend the smaller brushes?

Also, can the cleaning with the J&B Bore Cleaner be substituted with a deep cleaning using Hoppe's?

Thanks.

FullChoke
you have got to use a smaller caliber brush to have room for the Scotch Brite. once you wrap your brush you will see why.
i keep a bottle of Hoppes on hand to take a wiff of every once in a while. i like the smell of it but thats about it.

 when to use the J-B Bore cleaner that is part of the polishing proccess.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: paladin on February 22, 2011, 08:25:46 PM
I like to admit when I am wrong.
I substituted products for kroil and jb to polish my barrel.
My stuff worked but not as fast and not as well.
I was cheap and the other stuff was on hand.
How much Kroil do you use? How much jb cleaner?
Per patch/brite pad
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 22, 2011, 08:32:27 PM
wondering why it's not recommended to polish chamber. i like idea of using the shell.
if you polish a chamber you are taking the chance of making it to slick for the shell. causing it not to hold when you fire the gun.

I always understood that polishing your chamber was a good thing, because it aided in smooth cycling. Most professional smiths or companies polish your chamber also when you send your barrel to be polished. I have always polished the chamber of my 870 with no ill effects at all.
i also like to lightly polish the chambers on my barrels. but i do not want to recommend polishing a chamber to someone that is not comfortable doing it .after seeing and hearing the different things some members use to polish a barrel i do not want the responsibility of telling someone that it is ok and they ruin a chamber due to aggressive polishing
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 22, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
I like to admit when I am wrong.
I substituted products for kroil and jb to polish my barrel.
My stuff worked but not as fast and not as well.
I was cheap and the other stuff was on hand.
How much Kroil do you use? How much jb cleaner?
Per patch/brite pad
i soak the Scotch Bright or patch with Kroil. as far as the J-B i just add as much as i think is needed. usually a index finger full will cover the patch pretty good. it does state on the container that a little goes a long ways. but i always go by more is better except for calling turkeys
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: njdevilsb on February 25, 2011, 10:26:40 PM
I see from your new pictures, it looks like you wrap a much bigger piece of scotch brite pad around the brush than I did. I thought it may have been too tight doing it that way, so I trimmed it so there was only one layer of scotch brite on the brush, instead of overlapping.  Does your overlap quite a bit?   
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 26, 2011, 06:19:52 AM
I see from your new pictures, it looks like you wrap a much bigger piece of scotch brite pad around the brush than I did. I thought it may have been too tight doing it that way, so I trimmed it so there was only one layer of scotch brite on the brush, instead of overlapping.  Does your overlap quite a bit?   
i was doing ShotgunDaves 835 in that pic. the bigger the bore the bigger piece of Scotch Brite is needed
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: ShotgunDave on February 26, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
I see from your new pictures, it looks like you wrap a much bigger piece of scotch brite pad around the brush than I did. I thought it may have been too tight doing it that way, so I trimmed it so there was only one layer of scotch brite on the brush, instead of overlapping.  Does your overlap quite a bit?   
i was doing ShotgunDaves 835 in that pic. the bigger the bore the bigger piece of Scotch Brite is needed

 :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: njdevilsb on February 26, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
I see from your new pictures, it looks like you wrap a much bigger piece of scotch brite pad around the brush than I did. I thought it may have been too tight doing it that way, so I trimmed it so there was only one layer of scotch brite on the brush, instead of overlapping.  Does your overlap quite a bit?   
i was doing ShotgunDaves 835 in that pic. the bigger the bore the bigger piece of Scotch Brite is needed

Ah, ok.  Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: joshua on February 27, 2011, 08:59:26 AM
Awesome new pics to go with your polishing instructions.   :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: FullChoke on February 27, 2011, 08:51:46 PM
After you have polished the barrel according to your instructions, what is the average percentage increase in pattern shot count are you seeing?

FullChoke
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on February 27, 2011, 10:46:52 PM
After you have polished the barrel according to your instructions, what is the average percentage increase in pattern shot count are you seeing?

FullChoke
i have seen a jump of 10% on most barrels after polishing.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: archery1 on March 02, 2011, 12:58:43 PM
i have shooters choice, gunzilla, butchers, hoppes, can i use one of these instead of the kroi ?
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on March 02, 2011, 02:58:04 PM
i have shooters choice, gunzilla, butchers, hoppes, can i use one of these instead of the kroi ?
what you have listed will clean your barrel. but you will need Kroil and J-B to polish your barrel
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: blackswamp on March 02, 2011, 05:22:47 PM
VAHUNTER
Thanks for the new pictures.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Finch on March 02, 2011, 10:14:46 PM
Dang it!!! I thought I had everything on hand to polish my barrel this weekend. I have some JB non embedding bore cleaner on the way but don't have the bore bright. Already had Kroil oil. Is it truly essential to have bore bright? No one in Roanoke seems to carry the stuff.

Also, is it a must to deep clean a barrel prior to polishing? I see where some have done that prior to polishing. Thanks!
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on March 03, 2011, 05:55:08 AM
Dang it!!! I thought I had everything on hand to polish my barrel this weekend. I have some JB non embedding bore cleaner on the way but don't have the bore bright. Already had Kroil oil. Is it truly essential to have bore bright? No one in Roanoke seems to carry the stuff.

Also, is it a must to deep clean a barrel prior to polishing? I see where some have done that prior to polishing. Thanks!
you can polish without the Bore Bright. you will not get as good as a finish but it will still look and perform better than before.

just clean the barrel out before polishing. polishing will go deeper than "deep" cleaning
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Finch on March 04, 2011, 09:53:16 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: killdee on March 05, 2011, 11:12:26 AM
I see you use a 12/20 shells for the cleaning rod to pass through for a 12ga. What do you use for a 20 ga., a 20/410?
Thanks
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on March 06, 2011, 11:38:31 AM
i just use a single 20ga. hull when polishing a 20ga.
just have to watch that you do not pull the brush inside the hull while polishing
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: killdee on March 06, 2011, 12:17:33 PM
Thanks for this info, I have my shells drilled out and ready and my order in to Brownells for my polishing supplies. I suspect I will be polishing a couple of my buddies popguns also.
Kd
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: BowBendr on March 06, 2011, 03:17:47 PM
Well, I got the kroil and the bore brite in the mail the other day and re-did my barrel this week according to the exact directions. Much better now.

I also found out that I could use a little more scotch brite than I was originally using, so I stepped that up a little and I believe I got much better surface contact.

Now my 835 barrel shines like a new dime. I have one more 835 barrel to do and i'm sure it will be much easier this time.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on March 06, 2011, 05:09:19 PM
Thanks for this info, I have my shells drilled out and ready and my order in to Brownells for my polishing supplies. I suspect I will be polishing a couple of my buddies popguns also.
Kd
once you polish 1 barrel you will see how easy it is. and the benefits are very rewarding. i'm sure once you get started everyone that you know will have a polished barrel. best of luck !!! and please post your results. Shawn
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on March 07, 2011, 06:12:38 AM
Slicked up a .410 barrel that had lots of tool marks yesterday. Used the method with a .243 brush. Worked like a champ. :icon_thumright:
:icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Buxndiverdux on March 07, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
#1. Is it possible to get all the tooling marks out of the barrel with this method?(Moss 835 Ulti-Mag 24") My barrel is very shiny and slick looking but I can still see some imperfections.
#2. Are you guys cleaning your barrels with solvent and such between shots or are you just hitting it with a couple patches over a brush?
#3. I couldn't believe the plastic fouling I got out of my choke tubes when I hit them with bore cleaner. It was a shock to see that stuff come out of the tubes.

I hope to have some better patterns in a few days if more ammo shows up. :smiley-char092: This site rocks!

Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: VAHUNTER on March 07, 2011, 05:53:41 PM
polishing might not get every tool mark out, but it will take a lot of it out . the more you polish the better your barrel will look and perform.

and your right about the chokes. if they have wad stoppers or are designed to slow the wad. they really hold debri. i usually clean my chokes with Shooters Choice or Butches bore cleaner and a good brush
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: gobbler99 on March 07, 2011, 07:59:01 PM
My question, would or should you polish a Benelli M2 barrel?
Good info ;D
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Post by: fountain on March 08, 2011, 06:42:24 AM
Heard of a different method but want advice before I do it..polish with 0000 steel wool on a wooden dowel rod with a drill.  Anybody do this? 
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Post by: Iowabucks on March 14, 2011, 12:51:16 AM
Hey everyone, first off i apologize if this has already been covered but i don't remember seeing it in this post.

The procedure says to put in a different choke when polishing, and i understand why. But wouldn't it kind of hinder the polished barrel and shot pattern to put back in your unpolished turkey choke?

Can the choke be polished too, maybe seperately?
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 14, 2011, 05:47:53 AM
most turkey chokes made today have some sort of port or ring that grabs on and slows the wad. if you polish one of these chokes you will be taking a chance of nocking the sharp edge off.  then the performance will be lost
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Post by: Iowabucks on March 14, 2011, 09:09:41 AM
Mine is an older Hastings with no porting at all. Would it be safe to leave it in while polishing then?
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 14, 2011, 10:49:24 AM
2ounce6s is right. most chokes have been polished before leaving the factory. on your Hastings it will not hurt if it is polished.like i stated earlier. you do not want to polish a choke with wad stoppers or ports that slow the wad. most turkey chokes are made out of better, harder, metal than what barrels are made of. but it is possible to round off or dull wad stoppers and ports
 
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Post by: hawk on March 14, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
Is there somthing that you could use as a substtute for the JB polish. I have the bore compound but the polish is hard to find.I have some liquid stuff called strata 1000 grit, its sort of thick but a liquid made by 3m.Came from an auto body shop. Maybe toooo agresive?
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 14, 2011, 03:37:28 PM
i do not use a  substitute anything for J-B. Brownells usually carry both the bore cleaner and bore bright. you can polish with just the bore cleaner alone and get pretty good results
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Post by: sproultrapper on March 15, 2011, 08:14:11 PM
Awesome post. Thanks for the instructions. My barrel turned out great.
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 15, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
Awesome post. Thanks for the instructions. My barrel turned out great.
that great !!! Glad you found it helpful  :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
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Post by: Tunaguy on March 18, 2011, 01:39:46 PM
VAHUNTER

 Awesome post! I plan on doing the polish thing in the near future. Couple questions: What kind of RPM's on the drill? Slow,medium,fast? I have an 835 24". Does the overbored barrel take away from the forcing cone? Also by the look of things you are also polishing the forcing cone.Correct?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Tunaguy
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 18, 2011, 03:38:10 PM
VAHUNTER

 Awesome post! I plan on doing the polish thing in the near future. Couple questions: What kind of RPM's on the drill? Slow,medium,fast? I have an 835 24". Does the overbored barrel take away from the forcing cone? Also by the look of things you are also polishing the forcing cone.Correct?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Tunaguy
the speed of the drill is a personal choice. i try to keep it at a comfortable speed.
yes you will be polishing from the end of the chamber to the end of the muzzle.
polishing a overbored barrel you will need to cut the scotch bright a little bigger. you want a snug fit inside of the barrel.
if your barrel warms up as you polish, you know that you are making good contact .
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Post by: bigbuck326 on March 22, 2011, 05:44:36 AM
 :help:  I dont have a junk choke like IMP on 835 mossberg  so dont care about x factor choke Can  I  polishing with x factor .695 after done and will put new IC choke .675  :help:  :thanks:
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 22, 2011, 07:07:02 AM
:help:  I dont have a junk choke like IMP on 835 mossberg  so dont care about x factor choke Can  I  polishing with x factor .695 after done and will put new IC choke .675  :help:  :thanks:
sure. that will be fine  :icon_thumright:
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Post by: Richyb on March 24, 2011, 12:25:51 AM
I have a stoeger p350. Is it fine to polish my barrel or will i damage it? Can i use a wire cleaning brush? thanks.
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Post by: gophert on March 28, 2011, 09:04:41 PM
VAHUNTER,

Great info by the way.  All my supplies have arrived to polish my barrel this week.  However, my season opens Saturday.  Would you go ahead and polish the bbl or wait until after the season?  I'm assuming it can't make anything worse.  THANKS!
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 29, 2011, 05:58:44 AM
gophert i would go ahead and polish it. the only change you will see from polishing is to the better. Best of luck this season  :icon_thumright: Shawn
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Post by: YoungJake on April 09, 2011, 11:20:58 AM
Cool method! can you just tell me some of the things this will do to help your barrel? thanks!
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Post by: new2turkey on April 09, 2011, 11:25:24 AM
Cool method! can you just tell me some of the things this will do to help your barrel? thanks!


YoungJake,

This will improve numbers in the 10", with more even patterns.
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Post by: YoungJake on April 09, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
ok, great!
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Post by: njdevilsb on April 10, 2011, 12:01:18 AM
Quoted from the original post...

"you will see a mirror finish,better patterns(in most cases ) as well as easier cleanup of your barrel !!!!!!"
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Post by: ltprod on April 24, 2011, 10:20:33 PM
will this work on benelli barrels?
benelli crio barrels?

torrey
1-225-315-6677
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Post by: I hate turkeys on May 05, 2011, 10:25:03 PM
Man this works thanks.
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Post by: Wingbone on May 30, 2011, 07:55:35 PM
After reading all six pages, I'm convinced I need to do this, but how do I know if my barrel is chrome-line or not? I have an 870 turkey barrel(brand new). I thought most modern shotgun barrels were chrome-lined, though I've read that Browning is only lining the chamber, not the bore. I just don't want to mess up a brand new barrel. How do I find out? Which manufacturers are commonly known for chroming the bore?
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Post by: kdog on May 31, 2011, 04:28:09 PM
Has anyone ever used polishing compound instead of the JB bore cleaner?Just wondering if it would do the same with the kroil.
Kdog
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Post by: Eric Gregg on December 11, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
Unreal.....my gunsmith said that when it comes to your gun and it being in good condition, looks can be decieving. After seeing what came out of that barrel i think i need to touch mine up.

Thanks for the much needed info.
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Post by: Gus_13 on December 20, 2011, 01:43:30 PM
will this work on benelli barrels?
benelli crio barrels?

torrey


I have a Benelli Nova and want to do this.  Is there any reason we won't be able to on the Benelli?
I also have a Winchester 1300 I will do after.  Looks great and I'm definitely not opposed to easier cleaning.
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Post by: H20fowlkiller on December 23, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
After initial polishing, after how many shots do you repolish? Ever do it on other guns rifles bird shotguns?
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Post by: VAHUNTER on January 08, 2012, 10:58:50 AM
After initial polishing, after how many shots do you repolish? Ever do it on other guns rifles bird shotguns?
it really depends on how much you shoot. if you just check your pattern with four or 5 shots then shoot a few times during the season. it will last 2 or 3 years.
i have done a bunch of match barrels for our local shoot. i usually polish those barrels once a year.

ANY shotgun will benefit from having the barrel polished.

will this work on benelli barrels?
benelli crio barrels?

torrey


I have a Benelli Nova and want to do this.  Is there any reason we won't be able to on the Benelli?
I also have a Winchester 1300 I will do after.  Looks great and I'm definitely not opposed to easier cleaning.
you can litely polish a chrome lined barrel.you just need to becareful that you do not get real aggressive
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Post by: C J Stahly on January 08, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
I did it to my gun which had a chrome lined barrel.  As stated, just dont get real agressive. Low rpms and keep it moving.  It created a very nice finish in mine.
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Post by: bartstarr on January 11, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
To polish a barrel using this method the following items will be needed.
this has been a proven safe process that has shown great results!!
you will see a mirror finish,better patterns(in most cases ) as well as easier cleanup of your barrel !!!!!!
Green Scotch Brite
J&B Bore cleaner www.Brownells.com (http://www.Brownells.com)
J&B Bore Bright
Kroil Kreeping oil  Brownells.com (http://www.Brownells.com) OR www.kanolabs.com (http://www.kanolabs.com)

A Drill
Cleaning rod (i use a Hoppes 1/4"- 3pc without the handle)
20ga brush for 12ga ---.410 or 44cal. brush for 20ga.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0057.jpg)

NOTICE NOT recommended to polish chambers,ports,or chrome lined barrels.
it is NOT Recommended to polish barrel with turkey choke installed.
use a MODIFIED OR IMPROVED CHOKE during polishing process

i have polished over gas ports and barrel ports with No ill effects. but use caution. after polishing be sure to clean all materials out of ports.

using a empty 12ga. hull and a empty 20ga. hull i drill out the primer to the size of my cleaning rod. i insert the 20ga. hull into the 12ga. hull so that brass is showing on both ends.

for 3"chamber use 3"hull for 3.5"chamber use 3.5"hull
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/huntingpics072.jpg)

this will act as a guide for the rod and a stop for your brush as well as protecting the chamber from being polished.

1. wrap scotch brite around brush
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0058.jpg)
2. apply Kroil and J&b Bore cleaner.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0061.jpg)
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0062.jpg)
3. insert into chamber push forward until you can insert shell guide fully into chamber.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCopyofCIMG0063.jpg)
4. start drill as you move rod towards muzzle.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0070.jpg)
     caution--- do Not let patch spin in one place in barrel. rod must be in forward or backward motion while drill is spinning rod

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0069.jpg)

i usually do 100 or more passes using J&B Bore Cleaner
then swab the barrel with Liquid bore cleaner (of your choice) then follow with a couple dry patches to clean out the barrel .

Next step would be to follow steps 1 through 4 using J&B Bore Polish and Kroil.
i usually do 100 or more passes using J&B Bore Polish as well.

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCopyofCIMG0068.jpg)
add fresh Scotch Brite and J&B and Kroil as needed through out the process

after polishing is complete flush barrel with liquid bore cleaner (your choice) then clean and dry patch.

besure to clean all ports and choke threads when finished

the following pics of what comes out of a barrel during polishing. to the eye this barrel was as clean as possible. i had cleaned it with some of the best solvent on the market. then dry patched until the patch came out white.

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0067.jpg)

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0071.jpg)




if you have any questions please feel free to PM me.
           Shawn
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Post by: TauntoHawk on January 11, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Will most gun shops and gun smiths do this??

If i do mine, my dad and uncles are all going to want it done but they will be too lazy and I dont have the time for everyones
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Post by: tyelper on January 22, 2012, 11:08:17 PM
what i think to solve alot of questions is if someone does it please shoot a target before and after and post it so everone can see results

 jmo
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Post by: Hunt4Meat on February 06, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
I use my gun for ducks, deer, squirrells, dove... I think you get the point. I am wanting to polish my barrel for patterning with turkey loads, not neccessarily for everything else. What will happen if I don'tpolish the barrel until next spring? Will it cause any damage not repoishing it till then?

Matt
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Post by: jblackburn on February 09, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
I just ordered the Kroil and the JB's products to polish the bore of my new 870 and old mossberg 835.  I also have an old 20 gauge with a fixed full choke I would like to polish, but since I cannot change chokes, will polishing hurt the barrel?  Also, the 835 has a ported barrel, other than making sure I clean the ports well, is there anything I should do?

Thanks so much for the great thread!!
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Post by: MossRem on February 13, 2012, 07:20:38 AM
Is it possible to use Flitz in place of JB Bore Bright?
i have never tried using anything but J&B. there have been others that have used just about every kind of polish you can thing of. someone posted that they used turtle wax. J&B was made to use on firearms. so that is what i use. i do not believe on taking chances when dealing with a barrel

I wouldn't use Turtle Wax inside of a gun barrel for the same reason I wouldn't use it on a car..it's a paste, and it leaves a chalky residue that's hard to remove. I personally use 3M automotive hand glaze. It's a liquid and it doesn't build up...no chalk, no residue, no problems. It really removes powder residue and plastic wadding and leaves an oily coat that looks just like Hoppe's 9.
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Post by: MossRem on February 13, 2012, 07:24:31 AM
Oh by the way, I do want to mention that I wipe the glaze out of my barrels and chambers. I don't just leave it in there. Don't know if I made that clear in my last post.
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Post by: jcb11realtree on February 14, 2012, 02:20:39 AM
what does polishing your barrel do to the effects of the gun
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Post by: Hunt4Meat on February 15, 2012, 03:19:18 PM
Got my stuff ordered from Brownels, should be in later this week. I am going to try to go out and run a dove load thru each gun for before and after results, if I have time. I think it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by: jcb11realtree on February 15, 2012, 06:42:01 PM
how do you polish your barrel and what kinda stuff do you need to do it
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Post by: Tom Foolery on February 15, 2012, 09:21:24 PM
how do you polish your barrel and what kinda stuff do you need to do it


Read the first page of this thread
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Post by: jblackburn on February 16, 2012, 01:30:25 PM
Anyone polished a fixed choke barrel?  I have fixed full 20 gauge, but I don't want to screw it up some how.
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Post by: jblackburn on February 18, 2012, 04:20:36 PM
I polished my 870 today, really easy process.  The hardes part was getting the scotch pad cut to the right size!
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Post by: Five O on February 19, 2012, 11:36:06 AM
I polished my 870 today, really easy process.  The hardes part was getting the scotch pad cut to the right size!

Yeah you've gotta work it in alittle then start turning it or the brush will push out of it. The oil helps alot
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Post by: cscott on February 23, 2012, 10:18:44 AM
Im about to give this a try . Whats the average improvement in pellet count after this procedure has been done ?   Scott
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Post by: MUSHCREEK on February 23, 2012, 09:43:51 PM
Got all the stuff on the way to do it, probably gonna try it on brand new barrel as well.
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Post by: twinters on February 25, 2012, 10:03:15 PM
hey brother i am sorry to be asking so late into this post ,but i have bought all the stuff to polish the barrel on my shotgun,but after taking it down i have noticed that this may be a chromed barrel.the gun is a browning invector-plus special steel ,it has a mirror finish ,and has never been polished.i looked it up on there website but couldn't find any info on it,if you know about this i would really appreciate it before i really mess things up with this gun.i see that you are trusted by many so i will trust your advise thank you in advance
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Post by: Trevor2 on March 01, 2012, 07:33:00 PM
I dont have modified choke. All I have is turkey chokes. Would it be best to do it without a choke in it or with a old turkey choke?
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Post by: jblackburn on March 01, 2012, 10:12:49 PM
I dont have modified choke. All I have is turkey chokes. Would it be best to do it without a choke in it or with a old turkey choke?


Definitly DO NOT polish without a choke!  You will mess up the threads!  I would say that it would be hard to push the scotch pad through a tight choke, but that would be better than no choke.  I don't know what kind of thunder stick you have, but factory mod chokes are usually fairly cheap.
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Post by: TauntoHawk on March 06, 2012, 11:44:53 AM
borrow a junky old choke off a friend


I followed William at Sumtoys advice on polishing and it did a great job, haven't patterned yet because its been too cold and windy lately
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Post by: Newram05 on March 15, 2012, 03:02:58 PM
Just ordered me some brownells bore bright and cleaner! I've got the kroil in an aerosol can, will this work?
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 15, 2012, 03:15:05 PM
I just ordered the Kroil and the JB's products to polish the bore of my new 870 and old mossberg 835.  I also have an old 20 gauge with a fixed full choke I would like to polish, but since I cannot change chokes, will polishing hurt the barrel?  Also, the 835 has a ported barrel, other than making sure I clean the ports well, is there anything I should do?

Thanks so much for the great thread!!
if your choke or sleeved barrel does not have wad catchers it will not hurt a thing to polish to the end of the muzzle. you do NOT want to polish over wad catchers or anyother type of choke that slows the wad. if you do you are taking a chance of rounding the corners making them dull.  regular stock barrels with full chokes it will not hurt a thing.

Polishing your barrel does not have any ill effects. the only thing it does is takes away friction. this will allow the wad and shot to leave the barrel faster and smoother createing less flyers and a tighter pattern. it also makes your barrel easier to clean. it does NOT strip your barrels material down to "new" metal. it just polishes the metal on the surface of the barrel now.
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Post by: mac295 on March 22, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
If a mossberg 12 is over bored to 10 gauge dimensions should i use a 12 gauge brush with the scotch brite or still use the 20 gauge brush?
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Post by: Tom Foolery on March 22, 2012, 09:55:24 PM
I use the 20 gauge brush for my 835.
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Post by: mac295 on March 25, 2012, 05:05:31 PM
I did my sons 835 and it didn't seem to bite the scotch brite like my 870. The thought struck me and I figured I would ask. Thanks
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 26, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
If a mossberg 12 is over bored to 10 gauge dimensions should i use a 12 gauge brush with the scotch brite or still use the 20 gauge brush?
on the 835 i use a 20ga brush. but cut my scotch bright a little longer to give it a little more overlap so it will fit a little tighter.
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Post by: mac295 on March 26, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
Thanks for the advice and knowledge guys.
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Post by: Newram05 on March 28, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Do all of you clamp your barrel in a vice? I don't have a vice what do you reccomend?
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Post by: VAHUNTER on March 30, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Do all of you clamp your barrel in a vice? I don't have a vice what do you reccomend?
i have used a big C clamp. that worked real well.
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Post by: 870FaceLift on April 02, 2012, 11:21:29 AM
Thank you for this thread.  I followed the instructions this weekend with the products listed and was amazed with the results.  I have a new TC P/H 12 that has only been shot to pattern and sight in.  I couldnt believe the filth that came out of it.  I'm eager to see if/how the pattern has improved.
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Post by: NYSportsman on April 05, 2012, 07:10:03 AM
This is AWESOME!!! I will be trying this next week on my 835!! I have been using JB products on rifles lately and it works great! I can't wait to see the results of this project!!!
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Post by: dvdegeorge on April 24, 2012, 08:21:57 PM
Just did my 835 and SP 10 Thanks for the great directions and pictures...I even had the exact Hitachi drill from the picture
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Post by: VAHUNTER on April 25, 2012, 10:03:21 AM
Just did my 835 and SP 10 Thanks for the great directions and pictures...I even had the exact Hitachi drill from the picture
thats great!! polishing is really a simple process but it shows fantastic results!!
anyone that wants to get the very best out of there setup should polish the barrel :icon_thumright:
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Post by: The_Hunter323 on May 03, 2012, 10:34:44 AM
I was looking to do this but was wondering what the hulls were used for... wouldn't you have to put the patch through the chamber anyways?

Thanks
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Post by: Temp430 on May 17, 2012, 08:29:51 AM
The 40 yard patterns from my son's 20 ga. Mossberg 500 Super Bantam have been less than ideal.   The shotgun's bore has been "deep cleaned" numerous times but still the bore's finish did not appear that bright.  After polishing the bore using the procedure outlined at the top of this thread I was amazed at the difference.  The 500's bore now has a mirror finish like my Benelli's chrome lined bore.

Please note that I modified the procedure by using a worn 20 ga. bronze brush and cotton patch instead of a .44 or .410 brush and Scotch pad.  I noticed in the past that some Scotch type pads can be very aggressive.   Now I just need to get out and pattern the shotgun.....
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Post by: WALKER80 on May 24, 2012, 09:33:14 AM
I polished mine and it turned out great but all the black stuff you are seeing is mostly a byproduct of the JB paste.  You get the same black residue when lapping a clean rifle barrel with JB even one that is very clean.
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Post by: Mattyd on June 30, 2012, 08:18:31 AM
Few questions...
1) when you say you do about 100 passes...does one pass mean down and back?
2) how many times do you change out your scotchbrite pad as you are doing this?
Thanks.
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Post by: gophert on June 30, 2012, 08:25:35 AM
Few questions...
1) when you say you do about 100 passes...does one pass mean down and back?
2) how many times do you change out your scotchbrite pad as you are doing this?
Thanks.

On the 3 barrels I polished I counted down and back as 2.  I changed my scotchbrite after 50.  I did 150 with JB cleaner and 150 with the JB polish.  All came out mirrored.  Good Luck!
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Post by: VAHUNTER on September 04, 2012, 08:27:21 PM
I was looking to do this but was wondering what the hulls were used for... wouldn't you have to put the patch through the chamber anyways?

Thanks
the hulls work as a stop as well as a guide for the rod so it will not bang around inside of the chamber. it also protects the chamber from being polished.
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Post by: VAHUNTER on September 04, 2012, 08:29:20 PM
Few questions...
1) when you say you do about 100 passes...does one pass mean down and back?
2) how many times do you change out your scotchbrite pad as you are doing this?
Thanks.
there is no wrong answer. i count down and back as one pass.
i change the scotch brite when i feel a decrease in friction.
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Post by: M R Ducks on February 16, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
wondering why it's not recommended to polish chamber. i like idea of using the shell.
if you polish a chamber you are taking the chance of making it to slick for the shell. causing it not to hold when you fire the gun.

What???  I don't get this at all.  In my gun, the bolt doesn't even release until the shot is out of the barrel, then the extractor pulls it out of the chamber by the rim. I like the thought of making it as easy as possible for the shell to be extracted???  What am I not understanding?  I have used a similar polishing method for years on all my semi-auto shotguns, but never prevented the chamber from getting brushed, and never had any issues.   

Can you please explain the potential problem (as I run downstairs and drill out some hulls).   :thanks:

Ducks
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Post by: Full_Fan on February 16, 2013, 07:28:45 PM
Took a few hours this morning and did 4 Remington barrels.  Afterwards I had enough scotch bite pads and crud filled patches to fill a Walmart bag!  Interesting to see the differences between barrels... some needed a lot more work than others.  Great directions and the mirror-like finish is amazing!   
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Post by: custom12 on February 25, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
Can I use this method of polishing on a custom line cut barrel without doing any harm to my barrel.
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Post by: lowoctane on February 26, 2013, 09:36:58 AM
Thanks for the great post! :thanks:
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Post by: lock1nout on February 28, 2013, 08:42:59 PM
I can't import Kroil into Canada. What are my options?
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Post by: Crockrj on March 04, 2013, 04:14:18 PM
I have a brand new Nova and it seems the barrel has a chrome lined finish. Should I try to polish it now or just sit back a few seasons then polish? I guess I can wait till I pattern and then assess my situation.
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Post by: dogwood on March 05, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Just did my Rem 870 20 g...awesome!! :z-guntootsmiley:
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Post by: Philippe on March 18, 2013, 07:18:58 AM
I'd like to say that i've used Flitz bore cleaner in place of the jb bore cleaner and it works wonders. I have used the jb products on all my shotguns but got caught short and gave the Flitz a whirl and it worked great. Finished the job by using Flitz polish, bore came out with a nice smooth mirror finish.

Just figued i'd mention this if anyone was curious if Flitz would work using this method for cleaning and polishing bores.
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Post by: Old Gobbler on March 19, 2013, 09:11:03 PM
********* Disclaimer ***** I am 100% armchair quarterback ---


 
Typical detonation of a shell casing will sometimes cause the hull to expand slightly , I don't know anything about shotgun autoloaders and that function pertaing to that in relation to the cycle - But , I am quite familiar that some auto pistols have special tooling marks in the chamber to grab onto the brass shell to retard the cycle and facilitate a clean cycle - I know that the Seecamp .380 is designed  in this manner -- personally I would not mess with the chamber , for I see no advantage in doing so 



 
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Post by: Tommythreetoes on March 26, 2013, 08:38:22 PM
Does anybody have before/after patterning pics or numbers.  Thinking of giving it a go.  Is there anyway to do an 870 barrel harm?  Seems pretty straight forward, but definitely don't want to screw it up.
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Post by: gophert on March 27, 2013, 07:35:50 AM
Does anybody have before/after patterning pics or numbers.  Thinking of giving it a go.  Is there anyway to do an 870 barrel harm?  Seems pretty straight forward, but definitely don't want to screw it up.

The average increase in pellet count is around 10%. You are not going to damage your barrel as long as you follow the instructions.  I think it is best to use the products in the OP and not deviate because they are made especially for shotgun barrels.  I have done every 870 I own (3) and they have all improved. 
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Post by: mr meat on March 29, 2013, 09:31:28 AM
there was talk of cleaning the barrel with denatured alcohol! is denatured [rubbing alcohol] or is there another name for it and do you just run a patch with it on or soak the scotch brite and polish
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: gophert on March 29, 2013, 10:38:58 AM
there was talk of cleaning the barrel with denatured alcohol! is denatured [rubbing alcohol] or is there another name for it and do you just run a patch with it on or soak the scotch brite and polish

I would use the method shown in the original post to polish your barrel.  The rubbing alcohol really just does a final cleaning, but leaves the bore completely dry with no oil residue.  Some guns shoot really well with a super clean barrel and that is what the alcohol will provide, but it will not help with polishing your barrel and should not be used during that process.  I would not advise deviating from the supplies used in the OP.  Kroil and JB products made just for gun barrels. 
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Post by: VAHUNTER on May 07, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
I can't import Kroil into Canada. What are my options?
in a pinch i have use WD-40. i do not like it as much as kroil. but it will work.
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Post by: mikejd on June 10, 2013, 11:33:14 PM
Can I use the brown scotch brite pads instead of the green. I have a bunch laying around. If its not going to be as good I will get the green.
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Post by: klemsontigers7 on February 12, 2014, 08:41:38 AM
I didn't realized I had a chrome lined bore, so the stuff that I bought is no good to me.  I have everything you need (except for a brush) if someone wants to purchase it all at once from me.  We'll come up with a fair price, otherwise I'm out $50 in supplies.
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Post by: Gawhitaker on February 17, 2014, 11:40:33 PM
Appreciate the time you took to explain the procedure. Cleaned an 870 and 1187 last year following these steps, made a noticeable difference in patterning. It is definatly worthwhile.
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Post by: MouthCaller on February 23, 2014, 04:27:07 PM
I bought the scotch pads today but I couldn't find either one of those brands of cleaners I bought some stuff at bass pro gonna try it when I get home.

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Post by: MikeStaten on February 26, 2014, 03:26:49 PM
I used JB's bore paste for the initial run and Flitz for the final polishing.  The bore is slick and extremely shiny now. 
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Post by: 7magmike on February 26, 2014, 05:21:11 PM
May have to give this a try.
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Post by: mwr on March 12, 2014, 01:38:40 AM
I can't import Kroil into Canada. What are my options?
I used WD-40...worked good.........
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Post by: Byhalia on March 14, 2014, 03:42:53 PM
All of this is awesome advice !!   Thanks to all.    :thanks:
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Post by: Skeeterbait on March 14, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
For those using other products besides J-B and Kroil, be aware of a few things.

Kroil is a creeping oil.  In other words it is really good at wicking and penetrating as well as lubricating.  it will loosen and remove plastic deposits, powder, molly, copper, and lead smears, etc. better than most other products. 

J-B Bore Compound and Bore Bright is non-embedding, meaning it will not attach itself to the pores or the barrel metal and leave a film.  Other metal polishes such as Flitz tell you they leave a "protective finish" or "prohibit corrosion".  This means you can't wipe it all out of the barrel.  My personal experience with a gun I used Flitz on and then swabbed the barrel out with solvent was that there was still a film left in the barrel.    My first shot I had a reduction in pattern of 40 shot from what the gun characteristically performed after it's cleaning and polishing.  The film shot out of the barrel and the pattern improved with each subsequent shot until it once again performed as I expected, but it took 7 shells to get back to where it was before.  This has never happened with J-B products.

If you want to use the products that have proven successful in this process, plan ahead and order them.  They can be ordered from www.brownells.com .  In fact the two products can be ordered together as a kit. because this is a commonly used combo by shotgunners as well as benchrest rifle shooters.
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Post by: 8upbowhunter on March 18, 2014, 08:09:34 AM
I ordered everything to do my 870 SM back on February 17th and have everything in except the J&B bore cleaner that has been on back order since that time. The season is just around the corner here so I guess I won't be polishing my barrel until after this season. :( :(
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Skeeterbait on March 18, 2014, 08:47:39 AM
There are two products, J-B bore compound and J-B bore bright.  The compound is on backorder but the bright is in stock.  It works just like the compound but is finer.  My experience it works better, just takes a bit more time.  They are meant to be used back to back the first time, but the bright will work by itself.
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Post by: 8upbowhunter on March 18, 2014, 09:00:08 AM
There are two products, J-B bore compound and J-B bore bright.  The compound is on backorder but the bright is in stock.  It works just like the compound but is finer.  My experience it works better, just takes a bit more time.  They are meant to be used back to back the first time, but the bright will work by itself.

Thanks I may give that a shot, it certainly can't hurt anything and I can always do it with the compound the next time it needs a polishing.
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Post by: 8upbowhunter on March 19, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
Well I decided to take Skeeterbait's advice and polish my 870 SM barrel using only J-B bore brite since Brownells has been out of stock on the bore cleaner. First off this is a virtually new barrel that has only about 12 rounds or so through it and I passed a bore snake between each shot so I figured it couldn't be that dirty to begin with. Looking at my barrel before I started there were very few minor tool marks so maybe I got a good one from the factory. I decided to do it a total of 300 passes (back & forth as 1 pass) before checking it. Well after 200 passes I just had to peek after cleaning it and man what a surprise!! It had a mirror finish but looked like I could maybe get it a little better so I made another 100 passes. WOW now that is a beautiful sight I thought to myself when I cleaned it up and looked at it in the daylight. Thanks VAHUNTER and Skeeterbait. Now just to find the time to go pattern it again and see if that improved my numbers.
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Post by: taylorjones20 on March 31, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
I got all the supplies in today from Brownells to polish my 870 SM barrel.  I had to order a few of the 1/4 ounce packages of the compound cleaner because the 2 ounce has been on back order for a while.  Anyway, I was quite impressed with the way it looks after polishing.  Thanks for this thread and to all that have attributed.  When using the original recommended equipment for this job, it works great and the rewards are great as well. 

Thanks Again!!!!
Title: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: mtsrunner on April 02, 2014, 12:03:49 AM
I was at the pre-opening of the Cabelas in Greenville, SC today and they had the 2 oz jars of J-B bore compound.
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Post by: Twowithone on April 25, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
Brownells has the stuff but not the kit. I just ordered the stuff and some 20 guage brushes and it will be here on Monday. :OGturkeyhead:
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Birdyblaster on February 10, 2015, 01:47:11 AM
I just finished polishing the barrel on my new 870 SPS.  The barrel actually looked pretty decent from the factory but after following the process in this thread it looks incredible.  It is every bit as shiny as my chrome-lined Beretta barrel.  You can tell just running patches down it now that it is much smoother.  Now to get it out to the pattern board as soon as the weather improves.
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Post by: Balla1982 on February 14, 2015, 02:12:14 PM
When doing a deep clean on a Benelli barrel, how does one need to proceed?  I read that you do not need to perform the polishing process on a chrome lined barrel, so I'm just wanting to get the best and most effective pattern from my Nova.
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Post by: Dr Juice on March 12, 2015, 04:14:42 AM
Nice job walking us through the process. Thx.  :turkey2:
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Post by: Shaky Jake on March 14, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
You guys really see a difference in your pattern after polishing?
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Post by: RiverRoost on March 22, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
 I have a 12 gauge super x3 and only put a few round through it but have read about the benefits of polishing. Can we send barrels to you for this?
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Post by: Jalinkly on April 13, 2015, 10:29:41 PM
Are Remington barrels chrome?
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Post by: Old Gobbler on April 19, 2015, 08:56:24 AM
Are Remington barrels chrome?

I think the versamax is chrome , not sure  , the 1187 and 870 are not
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Post by: Greybeard11 on May 04, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
The last of my supplies came today. I'm gonna try this as soon as I get time. I found the pads at Wally World and ordered the rest from Ebay.
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Post by: Buckmaster1546 on January 15, 2016, 08:22:23 AM
Just got my supplies in for this and can't wait to do this!
Honestly I can't believe out of all the people I turkey hunt with that no one has polished their barrel.
I mean they've heard of it and how it helps.
Watch I bet after I do this and they see how much it helps, they'll be asking if I could polish their barrels to! Lol
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Post by: Buckmaster1546 on January 26, 2016, 04:11:18 PM
To polish a barrel using this method the following items will be needed.
this has been a proven safe process that has shown great results!!
you will see a mirror finish,better patterns(in most cases ) as well as easier cleanup of your barrel !!!!!!
Green Scotch Brite
J&B Bore cleaner www.Brownells.com (http://www.Brownells.com)
J&B Bore Bright
Kroil Kreeping oil  Brownells.com (http://www.Brownells.com) OR www.kanolabs.com (http://www.kanolabs.com)

A Drill
Cleaning rod (i use a Hoppes 1/4"- 3pc without the handle)
20ga brush for 12ga ---.410 or 44cal. brush for 20ga.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0057.jpg)

NOTICE NOT recommended to polish chambers,ports,or chrome lined barrels.
it is NOT Recommended to polish barrel with turkey choke installed.
use a MODIFIED OR IMPROVED CHOKE during polishing process

i have polished over gas ports and barrel ports with No ill effects. but use caution. after polishing be sure to clean all materials out of ports.

using a empty 12ga. hull and a empty 20ga. hull i drill out the primer to the size of my cleaning rod. i insert the 20ga. hull into the 12ga. hull so that brass is showing on both ends.

for 3"chamber use 3"hull for 3.5"chamber use 3.5"hull
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/huntingpics072.jpg)

this will act as a guide for the rod and a stop for your brush as well as protecting the chamber from being polished.

1. wrap scotch brite around brush
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0058.jpg)
2. apply Kroil and J&b Bore cleaner.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0061.jpg)
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0062.jpg)
3. insert into chamber push forward until you can insert shell guide fully into chamber.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCopyofCIMG0063.jpg)
4. start drill as you move rod towards muzzle.
(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0070.jpg)
     caution--- do Not let patch spin in one place in barrel. rod must be in forward or backward motion while drill is spinning rod

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCIMG0069.jpg)

i usually do 100 or more passes using J&B Bore Cleaner
then swab the barrel with Liquid bore cleaner (of your choice) then follow with a couple dry patches to clean out the barrel .

Next step would be to follow steps 1 through 4 using J&B Bore Polish and Kroil.
i usually do 100 or more passes using J&B Bore Polish as well.

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CopyofCopyofCIMG0068.jpg)
add fresh Scotch Brite and J&B and Kroil as needed through out the process

after polishing is complete flush barrel with liquid bore cleaner (your choice) then clean and dry patch.

besure to clean all ports and choke threads when finished

the following pics of what comes out of a barrel during polishing. to the eye this barrel was as clean as possible. i had cleaned it with some of the best solvent on the market. then dry patched until the patch came out white.

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0067.jpg)

(http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/vahunter01/CIMG0071.jpg)




if you have any questions please feel free to PM me.
           Shawn

Man I can really tell a difference so far! Thanks for this tip.
Lol I got me and everything within 10 ft of my work bench, covered in that stuff!   :bike2:
I have one question for you though.
In your 3rd to last picture. Is that what the scotch brite should look like when you've got a finished product?
Your pi looks like the croil and the jb bore brite stayed orange . If my scotch brite has a brownish oily look to it, should I just keep going till it comes out looking orange like in your pic?
Also, should I clean my barrel at all during the process? That brown, black stuff it seems like it will be present until the liquid bore cleaner is used......
Thanks again.  :popcorn:
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Post by: Gamblinman on February 19, 2016, 11:38:04 AM
I would be of the opinion that they would be less likely to rust since you have eliminated or reduced any small pits or cavities by polishing that would attract or hold moisture. A very light coat of light gun oil will do wonders in preventing rust while having negligible affect on the pattern.

Gman
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Post by: lmbhngr on April 04, 2016, 10:23:11 PM
Did my 12&20 this weekend. Biy what a difference!!
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Post by: batsonbe on April 05, 2016, 09:18:38 PM
Did my 12&20 this weekend. Biy what a difference!!

Post pattern pics?
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Post by: Spur-n-spit on February 27, 2017, 08:29:25 PM
I'm going to bring up a very old thread because I was reading through all 12 pages and was convinced that I should polish my 870 barrel. This gun is brand new with only two rounds (TSS hand loads) fired through it. I ordered the supplies today. I will post before and after pattern pics since I can not find any on here.
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Post by: rubachub on February 27, 2017, 10:03:24 PM
Thanks spur n spit. I want to see some before and after pics of the patterns. I may try the deep clean and polishing after this season. Curious to see how it works for you.
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Post by: Spur-n-spit on March 03, 2017, 09:08:22 AM
Here is before and after of the barrel. I was blown away with what came out of this thing. I followed the directions to the T. Very simple process. I will pattern tomorrow and post pics of before and after.
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Post by: Spur-n-spit on March 04, 2017, 01:30:26 PM
Got nice weather today in TN and patterned the 870 after polishing the barrel. Here are the before and after patter pics as promised.
Gun: New 870 SM 26"bbl
Choke: Original jellyhead .665

Pellets in 10" @ 40yds before polish 228
Pellets in 10" @ 40yds after polish 267
Title: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Jerseygti337 on March 04, 2017, 02:07:18 PM
Here is before and after of the barrel. I was blown away with what came out of this thing. I followed the directions to the T. Very simple process. I will pattern tomorrow and post pics of before and after.

In the before pic, are the lines actually in the barrel or is just the picture?
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Spur-n-spit on March 06, 2017, 07:50:24 PM
Yes there was some tooling lines in the barrel. The pic makes them show up more than they really were. But the polishing completely removed these "lines". Keep in mind this was a brand new gun only shot twice!
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Post by: NYshotgunner on June 01, 2017, 10:59:56 AM
Gosh.....I've been doing a polish like this since the early 60's, never thought I was doing anything special, just made sense.
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Post by: Gobspur on March 02, 2018, 10:44:58 AM
From his profile looks like the OP hasn't been active for a couple of years.  I was just wondering if anyone could post similar pictures of this being done, that he included in the original instructions.  The photos were from photobucket...which of course no longer show up.
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Post by: Brookky on April 23, 2018, 09:08:10 PM
Yes I could use some help also Anybody?
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Post by: iamjimmychew on April 24, 2018, 02:06:01 PM
What an informative post.  It would be exceptionally helpful if someone were to refresh the OP with the photos that are now missing.  I intend to go through the process myself, and I could certainly document it as I do; however, I'm not experienced with it. 

Tons of quality information here from a lot of folks.  Thanks to everyone who continues to contribute.  One thing I noticed in reading cover-to-cover on this was the "Deep Cleaning" link was dead, so I wanted to make an attempt at being useful and re-posting it here. (https://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/98772615-deep-cleaning-a-shotgun-barrel)

Cheers,
Jimmy

Edit: As mentioned in an earlier post (http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,75812.msg756204.html#msg756204), if you're using Google Chrome (or any chromium based browser) the Photobucket Fix Extension works to fix expired Photobucket images.  Click here to add it to your browser (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embedded-imag/ogipgokcopooepeipngiikdkpmcpkaon?hl=en-US).  Just thought I'd include that for anyone interested in fixing the Photobucket errors.
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Post by: Brookky on April 24, 2018, 07:17:17 PM
That would be very helpful Jimmy Thanks
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Post by: coachA on May 02, 2018, 08:42:25 AM
I have seen where yall say use a 20 gauge brush for a 12 gauge barrel. Would i need to use a 12 gauge brush for the over bored 835?
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Post by: Sasha and Abby on February 23, 2019, 01:22:32 PM
Once this is DONE, how often should I refresh it???  On a dedicated turkeygun, I would imagine never unless you shoot the wheels off it...  I run a snake thru the bore of mine every shot, so I would imagine that's all I'd need...
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Post by: dzsmith on March 07, 2019, 08:02:28 AM
if you are shooting tss....there is no need to polish it very often. If you have polished it the previous season prior to shooting tss I would not polish again. had an interesting experience patterning tss with a freshly polished barrel. It almost seemed necessary with led as I would always get 20 or so more pellets in a 10" circle with a freshly polished barrel vs a non polished barrel. Tss....barrel needs to be as dry and chemical free as possible from who ive talked to. So keep that in consideration when patterning tss for the first time if you experience some weird shooting.
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Post by: YukonC on January 02, 2020, 10:04:46 AM
I ordered all the stuff to do this to my 835. About the shells... if I just remove my barrel to do the cleaning I don’t need to worry about needing the empty shells right?


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Post by: Gobspur on January 02, 2020, 10:15:19 AM
I ordered all the stuff to do this to my 835. About the shells... if I just remove my barrel to do the cleaning I don’t need to worry about needing the empty shells right?


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Certainly remove your barrel to do it. The empty shell acts as a guide to keep the rod and brush centered.  You can try without, but I suspect your rod will bounce around in the barrel.  Also and most importantly, the shell acts to stop the brush so you don't polish your chamber.  Good luck!

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Post by: Sir-diealot on January 02, 2020, 03:56:17 PM
I ordered all the stuff to do this to my 835. About the shells... if I just remove my barrel to do the cleaning I don’t need to worry about needing the empty shells right?


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Certainly remove your barrel to do it. The empty shell acts as a guide to keep the rod and brush centered.  You can try without, but I suspect your rod will bounce around in the barrel.  Also and most importantly, the shell acts to stop the brush so you don't polish your chamber.  Good luck!

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Is that kinda like a bore guide for a rifle? It would seem so.
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Post by: dzsmith on January 11, 2020, 09:40:27 PM
I ordered all the stuff to do this to my 835. About the shells... if I just remove my barrel to do the cleaning I don’t need to worry about needing the empty shells right?


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if you are following the instructions then yes you need the shells....that's the guide your rod runs through. Personally, I modified my own version of this without using shells because I don't own a 20 guage so I have no empty hulls for it. I also don't use the same brand products mentioned. Basically, between the rotating scotch bright and a quality cleaner you are giving he barrel a deep clean/scrub. It will come out black reguardless of  how well the barrel is hand cleaned. Once ive cleaned the barrel, flushed it, and squeeged it...I run a piece of microfiber around a swab, not a brush, with a little bit of polish on it. its like waxing a car. after many passes the microfiber is black, and I replace it with a clean microfiber. Same process...it somes out black but less black. I repeat it until I get clean mircrofiber. Then I put a 12 guage swab and run it several passes. If it comes out clean, which it does at this point I know I have buffed the polish out to a max potential. Leaves a mirror finish. I probably wouldn't have deviated from the instructions had a friend of mine not already been doing it this way, with no issues. But like I mentioned several posts back. When shooting TSS the results are far less noticeable than when I shot led. . My gun likes a super super clean barrel. But I actually shot a marginally worse pattern out of a freshly polished barrel vs after the next time I cleaned it and shot it. Plastic fouling with the apex shells is severe...and ive noticed that hoppes #9 will slick over the fouling, so I ALWASY follow up with denatured alcohol for a good quality dry chemical free flush. first 2-3 shots after that are good and it falls off gradually from there on out until it settles into what I call 'a dirty pattern' which is still plenty good, I just like counting holes myself. The next time I polish the barrel, I will run alcohol through the barrel before I fire a round to see if that changes anything. One big advantage to the polished barrel is cleaning. Your barrel will clean up much quicker and nicer by hand if you give it the occasional polish. I still highly suggest it.
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Post by: WorkingBirds on April 07, 2020, 11:11:38 AM
Good read from the OP. I learned something, thank you.
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Post by: strum on April 10, 2020, 04:41:25 PM
Im finding all kinds of info on polishing shotgun chambers but you guys are saying "Not" to do it.
I certainly get the reason to polish the barrel and Ive done it a few times.
 Can yall explain the pros and cons of polishing the chamber?
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Post by: Passport on April 23, 2020, 11:42:50 AM
wondering why it's not recommended to polish chamber. i like idea of using the shell.
if you polish a chamber you are taking the chance of making it to slick for the shell. causing it not to hold when you fire the gun.

Can you expound on this? How can the chamber be "too slick"? The shell is held in place by the bolt and locked via lug, seems to me that a slick chamber will add in ejection if nothing else.
But tell me how wont hold when I fire the gun?
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Post by: Antleraddict62 on April 30, 2020, 05:54:47 AM
If I wanted to polish a 410 barrel  what’s size brush is recommended?


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Post by: TX_Gobbler on June 30, 2020, 06:55:23 PM
I want to do this, but a bit apprehensive that I’ll mess something up beyond fixing!
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Post by: bbcoach on June 30, 2020, 07:49:23 PM
I want to do this, but a bit apprehensive that I’ll mess something up beyond fixing!
Slow drill motor, green scotch brite, some Kroil, 15 minutes and voila.  It's intimidating at first but it is simple once you do it once.  It takes very, very little metal out, it deep cleans, buffs and polishes the inside of the barrel.  I actually use this same technique in my 50 cal muzzleloader.  Cleans the gunk out and makes it sooooooo much easier to load and clean afterwards.
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Post by: bbcoach on June 30, 2020, 07:52:49 PM
If I wanted to polish a 410 barrel  what’s size brush is recommended?


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I've never done a 410 but a 22 caliber brush and one wrap of scotch brite should do the trick.
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Post by: TX_Gobbler on July 07, 2020, 08:58:30 PM
I want to do this, but a bit apprehensive that I’ll mess something up beyond fixing!
Slow drill motor, green scotch brite, some Kroil, 15 minutes and voila.  It's intimidating at first but it is simple once you do it once.  It takes very, very little metal out, it deep cleans, buffs and polishes the inside of the barrel.  I actually use this same technique in my 50 cal muzzleloader.  Cleans the gunk out and makes it sooooooo much easier to load and clean afterwards.

Okay!  You’re giving me the confidence I need to try it - thanks!
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Post by: ShootingABN! on January 24, 2021, 05:51:29 PM
Can't wait to see if it helped the 410
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Post by: dzsmith on February 28, 2021, 10:18:47 AM
Im finding all kinds of info on polishing shotgun chambers but you guys are saying "Not" to do it.
I certainly get the reason to polish the barrel and Ive done it a few times.
 Can yall explain the pros and cons of polishing the chamber?

I used to use this polishing technique when I shot lead years ago. I found that it just simply didn't affect the pattern with TSS much. I bit the bullet and bought the flex hone kit. It takes the guessing out. I have the barrel hone, chamber hone, and forcing cone hone. I use them all. Good videos out there explain the use of it. I use the cutting oil it comes with. IMHO it does a better job than the other method ever did. Kind of pricey to buy the kit. I did see a pattern increase once honing my barrel vs the polishing technique described on this page. When I used to shoot lead the polishing technique really worked but it didn't have the same effect when I started using TSS. I don't know why...I just get better results with the honing kit.
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Post by: VAHUNTER on January 04, 2022, 10:35:26 AM
Im finding all kinds of info on polishing shotgun chambers but you guys are saying "Not" to do it.
I certainly get the reason to polish the barrel and Ive done it a few times.
 Can yall explain the pros and cons of polishing the chamber?
as you can see i use a spent hull with the primer drilled out so my cleaning rod fits through it.  the hull will protect the chamber from being polished. really no need to polish the chamber other than to clean it up. the barrel and choke system is what makes your pattern.
i have polished the same barrel 4 or 5 times. each time my pellet count has increased. not only does it show higher numbers but there is less holes in and out of the 10" circle. less holes equals less of a chance of missing a vital shot.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on February 25, 2022, 07:28:59 PM
I want to do this, but a bit apprehensive that I’ll mess something up beyond fixing!
Slow drill motor, green scotch brite, some Kroil, 15 minutes and voila.  It's intimidating at first but it is simple once you do it once.  It takes very, very little metal out, it deep cleans, buffs and polishes the inside of the barrel.  I actually use this same technique in my 50 cal muzzleloader.  Cleans the gunk out and makes it sooooooo much easier to load and clean afterwards.
What do you attach the scotch brite pad to?


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Post by: Ches. on March 17, 2022, 12:44:43 PM
I just got a PM tip from VAHUNTER. He suggested going right to Brownell's to get my Bore clean and Kroil as a package, I picked up those two and Bore Bright for $50 delivered ($11 for shipping). Amazon has free shipment, but each item is about double the price. I figured I saved about $20 on the three together. Thanks again VAHUNTER.
Ches.
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Post by: Ches. on March 26, 2022, 07:06:12 PM
Just got my 870 done today. Just like VAHUNTER said, I thought barrel was clean but all kings of crud came out. The bore shines like a mirror. Only 25 days till my season. I should be set.
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Post by: zkowasz on March 31, 2022, 08:51:40 PM
Im finding all kinds of info on polishing shotgun chambers but you guys are saying "Not" to do it.
I certainly get the reason to polish the barrel and Ive done it a few times.
 Can yall explain the pros and cons of polishing the chamber?

I used to use this polishing technique when I shot lead years ago. I found that it just simply didn't affect the pattern with TSS much. I bit the bullet and bought the flex hone kit. It takes the guessing out. I have the barrel hone, chamber hone, and forcing cone hone. I use them all. Good videos out there explain the use of it. I use the cutting oil it comes with. IMHO it does a better job than the other method ever did. Kind of pricey to buy the kit. I did see a pattern increase once honing my barrel vs the polishing technique described on this page. When I used to shoot lead the polishing technique really worked but it didn't have the same effect when I started using TSS. I don't know why...I just get better results with the honing kit.
What grit flex hone are you using? Does the bore hone clean up the forcing cone at all? Or is a forcing cone hone a must? My mossberg 500 20ga. Looks pretty rough in the forcing cone area with the rest of the bore being pretty decent.
Title: Re: polishing your Barrel updated pics.
Post by: Ches. on April 03, 2022, 05:56:00 PM
I want to do this, but a bit apprehensive that I’ll mess something up beyond fixing!
Slow drill motor, green scotch brite, some Kroil, 15 minutes and voila.  It's intimidating at first but it is simple once you do it once.  It takes very, very little metal out, it deep cleans, buffs and polishes the inside of the barrel.  I actually use this same technique in my 50 cal muzzleloader.  Cleans the gunk out and makes it sooooooo much easier to load and clean afterwards.
What do you attach the scotch brite pad to?


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For a 12 ga, you use a 20 ga brass wire brush. You wind the scotch brite on counter clockwise. I tied both ends of the scotch brite with 30 lb power pro. Not sure I had too but it worked. I also marked my rod so I didn't poke out the end of the barrel.
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Post by: Mallards Only on November 21, 2022, 10:16:29 AM
I dug up this old thread because I'm considering polishing the chamber of a barrel on a new gun and wanted to refresh my memory on the polishing process.  I see that others have also had similar questions as to why not polish the chamber.  I realize polishing the chamber won't affect my patterns.  But, on this new gun, shells just aren't feeding into the chamber as smoothly as they should and are sometimes sticking in the chamber after firing.  My thought was to try a little polishing to see if I can get them to feed better.  Is there any danger in doing this?
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Post by: Tally Turkey on February 04, 2023, 07:55:33 PM
I have seen that some people polish the stevens 301 barrel. I bought one and plan to use it this year. Original post says NOT to polish chrome lined barrel. Savage website says stevens 301 barrel is Chrome Alloy Steel. Is this chrome-lined and is it still safe to polish?

I also have an old Mossberg 835 that I inherited from my grandfather. It's probably an 80s or 90s model. The pattern is pretty open on it with an IC .685 - wondering if I should polish it but not sure if it's chrome-lined, and if it is, if that's an issue.

Thank you in advance for the help.
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Post by: bbcoach on February 05, 2023, 06:49:11 AM
Tally, The 835 is not chrome lined.  I've hunted an 835 since the early 90's and will continue with it.  I have plenty of the old 3 1/2 inch Hevi-13 #7's and a .670 Pure Gold choke in her and she is devastating (300 plus at 40).  When I started with this gun, I polished it for 15 to 30 minutes initially and normally give it a few minutes each spring before the season to keep it clean and smooth.  If you want a tighter pattern the mossy's (835 and 935's) like a choke in the .670 to .676 range.  Polishing and deep cleaning will help your numbers by about 10 to 15%.

Can't help with the Stevens since I don't own one. 
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Post by: Tally Turkey on February 05, 2023, 03:35:29 PM
Thanks for the info BBCoach. I will plan to polish my 835 as outlined in the original post. It will be my 12 gauge turkey gun for the foreseeable future.