Just lucked up & got 4 new calls from Lonzo. Hoping to place an order with JLH & need some recommendations for good matches to Lon's pots. Looking to order 4-6 new strikers & a waterproof striker. Let me know what you'd recommend or like the most that pairs well.
The four pots are....
-Ivory Acrylic, Crystal over carbon fiber
-Black Acrylic, Stoned Aluminium
-Bullet Tree, Ceramic
-Bullet Tree over Osage, Green Slate
Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciated
Jeff's carbon tip is a heck of a striker so there's your all-weather. As far as the other strikers, given what you've got I'd go with his "toad," snakewood (more expensive but worth the price of two striker choices), dirty hickory, and maybe a cedar. The toad and snakewood will run all of those calls, and really shine on the harder surfaces. The hickory will be a great mid weight striker on the slates, and cedar is a stupidly light option that'll just be really different than the others and allow for some really soft stuff on the slates. I think you could make some other choices in place of the cedar, but I'd go for some lighter softer wood to differentiate from the harder heavier toad (frogwood) and snakewood. The toad and snake will flat run anything. If you like a heavier, more weighted striker the bullfrog is a mite heavier than the toad (same wood). Some folks love the rosewoods and ebonys. I've got about everything Jeff makes and I like those as well, but the three that never leave my vest are the snakewood, frogwood (toad), and dirty hickory.
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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on January 28, 2023, 07:21:01 AM
Jeff's carbon tip is a heck of a striker so there's your all-weather. As far as the other strikers, given what you've got I'd go with his "toad," snakewood (more expensive but worth the price of two striker choices), dirty hickory, and maybe a cedar. The toad and snakewood will run all of those calls, and really shine on the harder surfaces. The hickory will be a great mid weight striker on the slates, and cedar is a stupidly light option that'll just be really different than the others and allow for some really soft stuff on the slates. I think you could make some other choices in place of the cedar, but I'd go for some lighter softer wood to differentiate from the harder heavier toad (frogwood) and snakewood. The toad and snake will flat run anything. If you like a heavier, more weighted striker the bullfrog is a mite heavier than the toad (same wood). Some folks love the rosewoods and ebonys. I've got about everything Jeff makes and I like those as well, but the three that never leave my vest are the snakewood, frogwood (toad), and dirty hickory.
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Top notch advice here. I would mention too that Clay Townsend makes 2 piece Snakewood Strikers that are awesome and pretty much play on everything. Good luck....
Jeff's Frogwood will LIGHT up all of these calls. My GO TO for almost every call I use!
Since you said 4-6 I'm going to recommend 6 of the close to 40 JLH strikers I have these are what I would go with.
1. A frogwood, the color doesn't matter but frogwood plays on just about everything. If you like a heavier striker then go with the bullfrog.
2. Tss cedar, on a slate as well as on my Shaffer ceramic this striker flat plays the soft stuff better than any other striker I own. I also have on of Jeff's regular heavy cedars but I would have to give the nod to the tss.
3. Heavy sucupira, this striker is an absolute player on every metal and crystal call I have played it on. It is not my favorite on slate but like I said it really shines on metal atleast for me.
4. Heavy persimmon, this call plays soft as well as loud. It shines for me on slates and crystal with a good amount of rasp.
5. Snakewood, this striker plays well on just about anything. It will flat scream on a ceramic or metal. The only downside to snakewood is the cost.
6. Carbon, I have 4 of these, they are the best all weather striker I own and I pick them up when I see them in the classifieds because they are that good. I have an ebony, two cocobolo and a ironwood. I'm not sure if it matters what wood it is with these they all sound good.
These were in no particular order, just if I could only tote 6 this would probably be the 6, with the dirty locust being #7 to swap in on occasion.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230128/173e5acb000bd53b98c6e1747181600b.jpg)
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With lonzo pot calls, about any kind of striker will run his calls ... regardless of who's strikers you buy , for just about all pot call surfaces you can't go wrong with snakewood, rutland diamondwood, webbwood, bloodwood and either maccassar ebony or back white ebony, purpleheart ... as for a waterproof striker i like vintage Wood-Wise waterproof striker or Rick Alessandrini carbon fiber with antler tip striker ... With strikers find what works best for you with pot calls you want to carry 4 -5 strikers can usually run any good pot call....
Wow, a lot of great advice. Exactly what I need to hear.
Okay so far, y'all played me into...
-Snakewood,
-Frog..probably going to get the light & heavy
-Tss Cedar
-Carbon
-Heavy sucupira
-Heavy persimmon
-Dirty Hickory
-Purple Heart (always loved for some reason)
Dang OG. Okay might just get up to 10..or more....Does or will this ever stop? Is this how it starts?
Any other suggestions?
Thanks everyone for the advice. Obviously some very good recommendations & experience.
Dang OG. Okay might just get up to 10..or more....Does or will this ever stop? Is this how it starts?
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YEP!!! Let the OBSESSION and MONEY Venting begin!!!
Jeff is a GREAT guy and a fellow turkey hunter as well. Give him a call. Tell him what pots you have and he'll fit your calls with the right striker. Great advice has been given by ALL!
Bullfrog, Heavy Cedar, Heavy Hickory, and Carbon are the ones I end up going back to year after year. Bullfrog is a beast on just about anything!!
Lonzo normally pairs his pots with a really good striker!
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on January 28, 2023, 07:21:01 AM
Jeff's carbon tip is a heck of a striker so there's your all-weather. As far as the other strikers, given what you've got I'd go with his "toad," snakewood (more expensive but worth the price of two striker choices), dirty hickory, and maybe a cedar. The toad and snakewood will run all of those calls, and really shine on the harder surfaces. The hickory will be a great mid weight striker on the slates, and cedar is a stupidly light option that'll just be really different than the others and allow for some really soft stuff on the slates. I think you could make some other choices in place of the cedar, but I'd go for some lighter softer wood to differentiate from the harder heavier toad (frogwood) and snakewood. The toad and snake will flat run anything. If you like a heavier, more weighted striker the bullfrog is a mite heavier than the toad (same wood). Some folks love the rosewoods and ebonys. I've got about everything Jeff makes and I like those as well, but the three that never leave my vest are the snakewood, frogwood (toad), and dirty hickory.
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Is the toad different from the bullfrog? If so I may have to place another order... always gotta find an excuse
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Quote from: 3bailey3 on January 28, 2023, 04:53:16 PM
Lonzo normally pairs his pots with a really good striker!
He did. Perfect sounding for sure. Definitely nothing wrong with the strikers sent & they pair perfectly for each one.
I just liked the looks & shape of the other strikers. Figured since I already feel down the OG rabbit hole I'd go ahead & play around with some other ones.
I'm not set in stone with JLH. I'm open to other suggestions as well. I just read some good reviews & those & they look comfortable to me. I like the head shape.
I'm all ears.
Thanks!
Quote from: chbarnha on January 28, 2023, 08:50:17 PM
Is the toad different from the bullfrog? If so I may have to place another order... always gotta find an excuse
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The toad is also a weighted frogwood, but it is slightly lighter than the bullfrog. I have and carry both, but for some reason or another I prefer the weight of the toad better. That could absolutely boil down to style of play. Both are exceptional.
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I use to carry a lot of strikers. Now I only carry a Townsend two piece snake wood. Good luck with the addiction. :)
Much rather spend my money on other things. Tried looking up other makers but just chasing my tail again. I hate facebook. Way to hard figuring out who has what & what's in stock. Also don't feel like having to talk to 12 different people through FB just to figure things out. I thought I was done with FB years ago. Messed that all up.
Any recommendations on a good snakewood, carbon (or waterproof), & frogwood strikers I can purchase.
Recommendations on some striker makers I should check out?
I need out this rabbit hole asap so I can go fall down the longbox & tube rabbit holes. And the dang push pins. Never realized I'd even consider one till this place. Some really impressive ones. I feel I'm going to end up with my vest loaded, a satchel & dragging a duffle sack into the woods at the rate I'm going. :TrainWreck1:
Quote from: wyetterp on January 28, 2023, 11:33:48 PM
Much rather spend my money on other things. Tried looking up other makers but just chasing my tail again. I hate facebook. Way to hard figuring out who has what & what's in stock. Also don't feel like having to talk to 12 different people through FB just to figure things out. I thought I was done with FB years ago. Messed that all up.
Any recommendations on a good snakewood, carbon (or waterproof), & frogwood strikers I can purchase.
Recommendations on some striker makers I should check out?
I need out this rabbit hole asap so I can go fall down the longbox & tube rabbit holes. And the dang push pins. Never realized I'd even consider one till this place. Some really impressive ones. I feel I'm going to end up with my vest loaded, a satchel & dragging a duffle sack into the woods at the rate I'm going. :TrainWreck1:
If you need Jeff's number I can message it to you. He responds best to texts.
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Check out Derek Fowler's website. He is another excellent striker turner with both one piece and two piece sticks.
Quote from: turkey stew on January 29, 2023, 09:43:44 AM
Check out Derek Fowler's website. He is another excellent striker turner with both one piece and two piece sticks.
Yeah that would be great. I appreciate it.
Quote from: turkey stew on January 29, 2023, 09:43:44 AM
Check out Derek Fowler's website. He is another excellent striker turner with both one piece and two piece sticks.
That's the route I'm going to go. Going to try a few from both of them. Thanks
Thanks everyone for all the good advice! Been spot on
Slate: heavy hickory bull frog heavy canarywood
Glass/crystal: hormigo pernambuco Macassar ebony granadillo and Honduras rosewood
Metal: katalox
Ceramic: bloodwood and marble wood
Everything: snakewood and frogwood
Black Locust and Dymondwood if you can find one. That will cover most every call.
Quote from: bowbird87 on January 29, 2023, 07:12:35 PM
Slate: heavy hickory bull frog heavy canarywood
Glass/crystal: hormigo pernambuco Macassar ebony granadillo and Honduras rosewood
Metal: katalox
Ceramic: bloodwood and marble wood
Everything: snakewood and frogwood
Sounds like great pairings. That Katalox has me intrigued.
Quote from: wyetterp on January 28, 2023, 11:33:48 PM
Much rather spend my money on other things. Tried looking up other makers but just chasing my tail again. I hate facebook. Way to hard figuring out who has what & what's in stock. Also don't feel like having to talk to 12 different people through FB just to figure things out. I thought I was done with FB years ago. Messed that all up.
Any recommendations on a good snakewood, carbon (or waterproof), & frogwood strikers I can purchase.
Recommendations on some striker makers I should check out?
I need out this rabbit hole asap so I can go fall down the longbox & tube rabbit holes. And the dang push pins. Never realized I'd even consider one till this place. Some really impressive ones. I feel I'm going to end up with my vest loaded, a satchel & dragging a duffle sack into the woods at the rate I'm going. :TrainWreck1:
John Sinclair makes awesome calls and strikers.
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:turkey2:Black locust and monterillo
Consistent favorites are snakewood, Mac Ebony (this really is the best ebony striker IMO), ipe, bloodwood, purpleheart, black locust, hickory, yellowheart and cedar. I like persimmon off and on but the wood is very variable from striker to striker. Of the true rosewoods, African Blackwood, Amazon and Honduran Rosewood stand out. The most consistent players will be laminates like Dymondwood and Frogwood because they are all made the same within a brand and there is less variability compared to natural woods. Probably the same can be said for carbon.
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on February 02, 2023, 06:07:18 PM
Consistent favorites are snakewood, Mac Ebony (this really is the best ebony striker IMO), ipe, bloodwood, purpleheart, black locust, hickory, yellowheart and cedar. I like persimmon off and on but the wood is very variable from striker to striker. Of the true rosewoods, African Blackwood, Amazon and Honduran Rosewood stand out. The most consistent players will be laminates like Dymondwood and Frogwood because they are all made the same within a brand and there is less variability compared to natural woods. Probably the same can be said for carbon.
Funny you say that about the rosewoods, my favorite is the Brazilian, and I find the Honduran to be the least noteworthy of the three. Just goes to show you have to fry them all, everybody's ear is different. I love them all
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Quote from: chbarnha on February 02, 2023, 08:16:45 PM
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on February 02, 2023, 06:07:18 PM
Consistent favorites are snakewood, Mac Ebony (this really is the best ebony striker IMO), ipe, bloodwood, purpleheart, black locust, hickory, yellowheart and cedar. I like persimmon off and on but the wood is very variable from striker to striker. Of the true rosewoods, African Blackwood, Amazon and Honduran Rosewood stand out. The most consistent players will be laminates like Dymondwood and Frogwood because they are all made the same within a brand and there is less variability compared to natural woods. Probably the same can be said for carbon.
Funny you say that about the rosewoods, my favorite is the Brazilian, and I find the Honduran to be the least noteworthy of the three. Just goes to show you have to fry them all, everybody's ear is different. I love them all
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Or different people made the rosewood strikers. I imagine not too many people have a Brazilian Rosewood striker.
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Thanks for all the advice. Took as much advice as I could afford.
Ended up with some Lyman's & JLH.
Lymans I got a snakewood, hickory, & mac ebony.
JLH's got 3 weights of frog wood, heavy cedar, & a bloodwood (jamo's recommendation for ceramic).
Can't wait to try 'em out to see how they sound. Now just want a waterproof that sounds good.
Big thanks to Jamo for the hook up. Awesome to deal with. Top notch seller for sure!
You should be all set there! Some serious turkey sticks.
Does anyone use anything from zero game calls? Just stumbled on their site & the stuff looks pretty good. Curious of some feedback about their stuff. I don't know anything about them & didn't find any reviews beside a call that was won in a give away.
You are pretty well set for strikers. The Frogwood and snakewood will bring out the BEST in everything they touch. Cedar should do a lot of the soft stuff. Many good choices! Only other option I would look for is a heavy Dymond wood. Now it's Practice Time!
You're right. Ran em a little tonight with a handful of pots. Y'all nailed it on the head with the recommendations for sure.
Also, have a all weather & snakewood from Sinclair ordered. Not really sure why I even added the snakewood :drool: but want to try his shape & see. I will end up picking up a heavy Dymond for sure at some point.
Jamo told me he liked the bloodwood the most for his ceramic. He was right about it being a great sound. Purrs & clucks real soft easily with no skips. Real mellow & very clean sounding.
I will say there really is a big difference in the sounds & volume from every one of those strikers. On Lonzo's stoned aluminum especially. I get a different turkey from every striker. Some of the really hard ones & two of the frogwoods will make your ears bleed if I crank down on 'em. Crazy loud. Way loader then I like to call but I guess there are times where the turkeys are a few counties over. They still sound great on the soft stuff too.
The one that surprised me the most is the heavy cedar. Works great on all the pots but sounds higher pitched & more like a younger hen. Already know that one will always be in my vest. Just using that along with whichever other one gives me the ability to sound like two totally different birds on the same pot. It's a big difference in the sound on all the pots.
I need to keep playing around with them to whittle down which ones will stay in my vest. Knowing me I'll start out with all of them till the turkeys tell me what they like.
Thanks everyone for all the help. There really is a huge difference in the variety & that's what I was hoping for. Never know what they might react too.
IMO you are heading in the right direction with this statement : I need to keep playing around with them to whittle down which ones will stay in my vest. Knowing me I'll start out with all of them till the turkeys tell me what they like.
Let the Turkeys Be Your JUDGE and JURY!
By the way, Glenda Green makes a GREAT striker Roll up that keeps your strikers at the ready. The roll up features plenty of pockets for multiple strikers (10 to 15) and is very convenient when setting up or on the move. Pull it out of a vest pocket, roll them out and use, then back in the roll up and back in the vest pocket.
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on February 02, 2023, 08:46:19 PM
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Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on February 02, 2023, 06:07:18 PM
Consistent favorites are snakewood, Mac Ebony (this really is the best ebony striker IMO), ipe, bloodwood, purpleheart, black locust, hickory, yellowheart and cedar. I like persimmon off and on but the wood is very variable from striker to striker. Of the true rosewoods, African Blackwood, Amazon and Honduran Rosewood stand out. The most consistent players will be laminates like Dymondwood and Frogwood because they are all made the same within a brand and there is less variability compared to natural woods. Probably the same can be said for carbon.
Funny you say that about the rosewoods, my favorite is the Brazilian, and I find the Honduran to be the least noteworthy of the three. Just goes to show you have to fry them all, everybody's ear is different. I love them all
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Or different people made the rosewood strikers. I imagine not too many people have a Brazilian Rosewood striker.
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I am referring to the 4 different rosewood strikers I have, all made by Jeff. My favorite is the Brazilian and my least favorite is the Honduran.
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Quote from: chbarnha on February 05, 2023, 07:15:39 AM
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on February 02, 2023, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: chbarnha on February 02, 2023, 08:16:45 PM
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on February 02, 2023, 06:07:18 PM
Consistent favorites are snakewood, Mac Ebony (this really is the best ebony striker IMO), ipe, bloodwood, purpleheart, black locust, hickory, yellowheart and cedar. I like persimmon off and on but the wood is very variable from striker to striker. Of the true rosewoods, African Blackwood, Amazon and Honduran Rosewood stand out. The most consistent players will be laminates like Dymondwood and Frogwood because they are all made the same within a brand and there is less variability compared to natural woods. Probably the same can be said for carbon.
Funny you say that about the rosewoods, my favorite is the Brazilian, and I find the Honduran to be the least noteworthy of the three. Just goes to show you have to fry them all, everybody's ear is different. I love them all
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Or different people made the rosewood strikers. I imagine not too many people have a Brazilian Rosewood striker.
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I am referring to the 4 different rosewood strikers I have, all made by Jeff. My favorite is the Brazilian and my least favorite is the Honduran.
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You have 2 good ones then.
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Quote from: bbcoach on February 05, 2023, 06:08:13 AM
IMO you are heading in the right direction with this statement : I need to keep playing around with them to whittle down which ones will stay in my vest. Knowing me I'll start out with all of them till the turkeys tell me what they like.
Let the Turkeys Be Your JUDGE and JURY!
By the way, Glenda Green makes a GREAT striker Roll up that keeps your strikers at the ready. The roll up features plenty of pockets for multiple strikers (10 to 15) and is very convenient when setting up or on the move. Pull it out of a vest pocket, roll them out and use, then back in the roll up and back in the vest pocket.
Thanks...
Been eyeing Mrs. Glenda's stuff for a while. Might order the roll & I want to see if she would cover some boot gaiters in mossy oak for me. Looks like everything she makes is great quality for sure.