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Title: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 11:42:57 AM
I just got off phone with a guy that is selling this gun,It is in "mint" shape with maybe a box of shells through it. He says its a 25" barrel?.Mossy oak breakup,normal stock..I am going tonight to buy it. It has double bead,It isnt drilled and tapped. I have a man coming to buy a rifle from me later this afternoon, I seen this gun a few days ago and knew I was going to buy it, if it was still for sale in a week or so, It just works out that I am selling a $1500 rifle today and I don't want to lose out on this gun.

I couldn't pass It up, the last one I seen was going for $2000 up here. How many of you guys know exactly which model this is, and have one?

Rem sp-10,25" barrel, Mossy oak breakup,dual bead and regular stock.

I have tried to post pictures but it wont let me, this forum is a nightmare to get pictures posted sometimes.

This is not the picture of actual gun,but from all I can see, is the exact model of the gun I am going to buy later.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: 457121 on April 17, 2022, 12:44:43 PM
Alright! I'm kinda excited for you. I just love all things 10ga. Opening day is tomorrow here in MO and I just opened the safe and got out the Ithaca Mag 10 Supreme grade with grafted on 30" SP10 barrel. It's so long that I can't fit it under the safe's upper shelf with the .705" Hastings extended tube installed. The SP10 waterfowl models came with either a 26" or 30" barrel. There was a turkey model with a 23" barrel. I can't imagine the muzzle blast with a 23" barrel and unprotected ears.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 12:58:03 PM
I thought it was a 23" in pictures before I called him and talked to him but he says its a 25", so I assume its either 23" or 26" because I have never heard of a 25",  but maybe there is.  He says its in mint shape,so I am going around 6pm,its a 40 minute drive so I should be home by 730-8pm. If I buy this, my buying is done for awhile, I am already happy with my growing collection,but I wanted an sp-10 for 5 years and I just wasn't willing to fork out $2000 for the last one, I offered him what this guy is asking for his, so I always had my own "budget" on what I was willing to pay for one.

If the gun is "mint" like he says,I'll pay for it,but if it isn't "mint" I am going to offer him what I feel it is worth, I am not going to low ball him. I would never drive out of my way to do that to someone but i will only pay what I feel the gun is worth.

It comes with a mod, and an x-full, or full choke from what he told me on phone. This would complete my 10 gauge collection.

This is the same guy I lost out on a rem 1187 12 gauge nwtf a few weeks back,somebody seen it before me. I knew I'd have a chance with this one,seeing as Its a 10 and nobody really wants these anymore,maybe the odd goose hunter. I have been goose hunting for 30 years and never seen anybody and we have a ton of area and oppurtunity to hunt fields in my 2 hour radius using a big 10. I am sure there is a few kicking around.   I'll be using it for geese and gobblers.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: 457121 on April 17, 2022, 01:35:46 PM
I realize you said that the picture you posted is not the actual gun but the barrel in the pic doesn't look like a 26" barrel. On the 26" from the forend nut forward there should be 5 vents in the rib. On the 30" there's 7. The 23" has 2 vents.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 01:50:27 PM
It looks like 5 vents, in the picture from the actual gun, and that picture I posted, I just copied and pasted it from online because it said it was 25" and its the same camo. So, then it looks like a 26" on the gun I am buying, which makes way more sense to me than 25".
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: 457121 on April 17, 2022, 02:02:53 PM
I just checked my old 1999 & 2000 Remington catalogs and they have the exact gun you posted a picture of: camo, barrel length, 4 vents from the forend nut forward. OAL was 42.5" with 23" barrel. In my 1995 Remington catalog the SP10 is pictured with only two vents in the rib forward of the forend nut on the 23". In no catalogs I have on hand under the "extra barrels" section is the 23'' available for purchase, only the 26" and 30".
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 02:16:29 PM
I believe its a 26" barrel,I'll be able to figure out the year as well when I type serial number in, I think its a 2003-2005 model but I could be wrong, I have been looking through some Remington catalogs online here today. I have a 2004 Rem 1187 sp-t 3.5" 23" mossy oak break up 12 gauge and a 1993 Rem 1187 sp-t 3" 21" greenleaf 12 gauge.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: deadbuck on April 17, 2022, 02:40:16 PM
I just bought one just like the one you are about to get. you definitely are looking at the 23 inch barrel version.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: deadbuck on April 17, 2022, 02:54:21 PM
I also have a wood/blued SP10 with the 26 inch barrel and the barrel actually tapes out at 25". 25 and 26 inch barrel is one and the same.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 03:04:52 PM
The guy I buying from must have measured it then, if he says its a 25", your picture looks like a shorter barrel, I am not sure why I cant save the picture and then upload it on here, It has let me before. I have tried 3 times now. It won't make a difference to me either way, but I hope it is a 23". If the gun is as stated I am coming home with it. They just are not common, this is only the 2nd sp-10 in camo I have seen in 5 years, the first was $2000 and was obsession camo, it lasted less than a week.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: deadbuck on April 17, 2022, 03:14:37 PM
The last 2 camo guns I have seen sell on Gunbroker sold for 2100 and 2300 in excellent condition. One with a few battle scars sold for 1500 last week. I am torn between keeping or selling mine. I need a new rifle more than I need the shotgun and would make a huge profit on selling it but man it sure does feel good when you pick it up and look down the barrel.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 03:36:47 PM
I have sold about $10 000 in rifles the last year, I really do not use a rifle for that much hunting, I kept my .35 rem and sold all my levers and a few bolts. I maybe use a gun for 3-4 days for whitetail, I carry my bow for the majority of the 3 months every fall, I am a bowhunter at heart, and my muzzleloader for 3-4 more days. I had purchased 7-8 nice rifles over the last 5-6 years and I sold them when they were at peak profit,which at the time was not something I had planned but, I probably cleared $6 000 in selling them. I won't miss them either, I kept my hunting rifle.

I'd rather buy shotguns, I use them way more. All my kills are under 80 yards with a gun, I use a shotgun sometimes as well. I am all bush where we hunt. It isnt like out west where its all long haul shooting.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 05:28:26 PM
The last 2 camo guns I have seen sell on Gunbroker sold for 2100 and 2300 in excellent condition. One with a few battle scars sold for 1500 last week. I am torn between keeping or selling mine. I need a new rifle more than I need the shotgun and would make a huge profit on selling it but man it sure does feel good when you pick it up and look down the barrel.
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Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 08:10:53 PM
The gun was in mint shape,It's been a safe queen,you cant even tell It has ever been out of the safe,not a spot on it, Here is it.....
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 17, 2022, 08:42:26 PM
If I am reading the serial # and the Remington online code correct, and I think I am, it is a 1992 model, that is incredible,as this gun looks like it was new in box, yesterday. It came with a full and a modified choke. I am super happy with my purchase. I am going to add a set of fiber optics and look for an aftermarket turkey choke and a real nice custom sling for this one.  I can't seem to get the Remington 1992 catalog to download to see for sure right now.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: 457121 on April 17, 2022, 09:24:22 PM
Hotdog! Did Mossy Oak have that pattern in '92? I only remember bottom land and green leaf from that era.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: deadbuck on April 17, 2022, 09:48:44 PM
so what inch barrel does it have? And, how many US dollars is 1400 canadian?
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 05:04:23 AM
so what inch barrel does it have? And, how many US dollars is 1400 canadian?
Ill measure it after work tonight but looks like a 25".
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 05:05:43 AM
Hotdog! Did Mossy Oak have that pattern in '92? I only remember bottom land and green leaf from that era.
Yes,thats what I think too. I'll have to double check the "code", too me it looks like a early to mid 2000' gun with the mossy oak break up pattern.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 05:49:45 AM
It looks like I'll have to order a turkey choke,none local for a rem thread. I have it narrowed down to either a kicks,comp n choke or a pure gold, Indian creek is out of stock.

.690 or .710? I will be shooting lead 4 & 5 to start with, eventually I hope to be loading tss.I'll place order this evening when I return home.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 06:09:55 AM
Trulock has .680 or .700 in ported or non ported, I have a handful of these chokes and like his chokes. I just want to buy the diameter that won't blow the patterns with lead, 4-5's.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: 457121 on April 18, 2022, 02:29:53 PM
Trulock has .680 or .700 in ported or non ported, I have a handful of these chokes and like his chokes. I just want to buy the diameter that won't blow the patterns with lead, 4-5's.
I did a lot of lead pattering years ago (2013-14 ish) when I got my SP10 barrel for the Ithaca. And since I was doing it I included my BPS. This was with the old 2 1/4oz. Winchester and Federal #4 loads. First, neither patterned the Rem Premier 2 1/4oz. very well. The .705" Hastings and Terror tubes threw great patterns at 40 yards out of both guns. Patterns had even pellet distribution and old school size about 3 foot diameter. I have that Trulock .700" for Remchoke and a .700" Hastings for Invector. There really wasn't any real difference over the .705" with either #4 or #5. My .695" chokes are both Hastings and #4's performed better with the slightly bigger sizes. But both guns shot Winchester 2 1/4oz. #5's great with the .695" chokes. The tightest choke I own is a .690" but I never tested it because #4's shoot so well in .705". But that day is coming as I only have 5 of the #4 (2 1/4oz.) Winchesters left and about 15 Federals. I have an entire flat (250 rounds) of #5 Winchester Supreme XX 2 1/4oz. so I'll have try them in the .690". I think there's a reason so many 10ga. chokes stop at .695" though.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 04:32:53 PM
I measured barrel, It is a 25" or 26" as they call it. I am in Ontario,Canada. You can ship chokes back and forth as I buy and sell from businesses and people all the time. I appreciate the info on chokes, I kind of figured to go with the least amount of constriction like a .700 to .720 

I am interested in testing the full choke It comes with but I also would like to find a turkey choke for it.

After I got cleaned up from work, I took gun apart, you couldn't tell It has ever been shot,It was a serious safe queen. He told me it had maybe 5-6 shells out of it and has been in safe for years.

It is far and away the best shape "used " gun I have ever purchased and I have never really had any beat up ones. I can't believe I actually own an sp-10, I probably would not have bought the bps 10 ga I just did, if this gun was available before but I am now glad I have 2 10's.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: deadbuck on April 18, 2022, 05:56:32 PM
You didnt buy that gun, you stole it for that price.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: b wilt on April 18, 2022, 06:07:15 PM
Wait till you see the difference in recoil compared to the BPS, mine is very pleasant too shoot.


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Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 06:29:29 PM
https://oldguns.net/sn_php/remdates.htm

AU

My gun looks like its a March 2000 manufacture date, if I am doing it correctly, those are the 2 closest letters on left side of barrel closest to receiver.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 07:42:25 PM
Ive shot 3.5" 2 1/8 turkey loads from a mossberg 535,nothing bothers me after that combo, that is enough to make you puke.

I am a little irritated trying to figure out the coding system, for the sp-10, to know the date of manufacture. I don't think march 2000 is it, but I am not sure. I didn't have this much trouble with my other guns.

Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 07:50:13 PM
Trulock has .680 or .700 in ported or non ported, I have a handful of these chokes and like his chokes. I just want to buy the diameter that won't blow the patterns with lead, 4-5's.
I did a lot of lead pattering years ago (2013-14 ish) when I got my SP10 barrel for the Ithaca. And since I was doing it I included my BPS. This was with the old 2 1/4oz. Winchester and Federal #4 loads. First, neither patterned the Rem Premier 2 1/4oz. very well. The .705" Hastings and Terror tubes threw great patterns at 40 yards out of both guns. Patterns had even pellet distribution and old school size about 3 foot diameter. I have that Trulock .700" for Remchoke and a .700" Hastings for Invector. There really wasn't any real difference over the .705" with either #4 or #5. My .695" chokes are both Hastings and #4's performed better with the slightly bigger sizes. But both guns shot Winchester 2 1/4oz. #5's great with the .695" chokes. The tightest choke I own is a .690" but I never tested it because #4's shoot so well in .705". But that day is coming as I only have 5 of the #4 (2 1/4oz.) Winchesters left and about 15 Federals. I have an entire flat (250 rounds) of #5 Winchester Supreme XX 2 1/4oz. so I'll have try them in the .690". I think there's a reason so many 10ga. chokes stop at .695" though.
I am going to order a trulock .700, I am just not sure to go with a ported or non ported choke. I am leaning towards a ported one.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 18, 2022, 08:42:53 PM
Trulock is not shipping international individual orders right now, so I went ahead and ordered a .705 for my Rem-sp 10 from comp n choke and a .705 for my browning bps as well.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 19, 2022, 05:46:32 AM
I ordered another set of williams slugger universal sights,with the peep sight this morning, I am done spending money on shotguns until next January. I need a sling,but I am going to concentrate on reloading components after turkey season to get started loading tss, hopefully.

I will stock up on any 10 gauge turkey ammo I come across though,cheaper than guns, and seems to be even harder to find. It's -8 and a blizzard here this morning, it is going to be a fun day outside working,turning to freezing rain later.  6 days until season.....
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: the Ward on April 20, 2022, 10:39:14 AM
Man i'm jealous! That is a very nice sp10, and as deadbuck said, you stole it lol! I am going to
have a auto 10 someday, when the right gun and deal comes along. Congrats H.B.K.!
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 21, 2022, 06:32:27 AM
Ya, I am happy and excited that I found one, and I knew it was a great price. It will be hunted with a bit this year, as long as it patterns well to 40 yards with what I have in ammo and chokes. I'll find out Saturday.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: the Ward on April 21, 2022, 10:14:45 AM
Looking forward to seeing how it shoots.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 21, 2022, 08:20:24 PM
I just bought a Remington Full-Extra turkey choke flush, from a local buy/sell gun site, I should have it in 3-4 days depending on shipping. I assume It was the turkey choke that came with the sp-10 turkey model, 23" ?
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: Old Gobbler on April 22, 2022, 12:59:07 PM
I owned a 26 barrel at one time ...I believe it measured out at 25 inches

I couldn't see a noticeable patterning difference between it and the 23 so I sold it off ...

It is admittedly ... a very heavy shotgun it takes some getting used to , I've hunted my sp10 exclusively for 28 seasons now , when it's set up right ...and that can be sometimes a difficult task ...it has phenomenal killing power

I've had my mishaps with bad shots but that's due to my choke threaded improperly installed from the factory

I'm about to take the heavy scope off and go to a fast fire to lighten it up a little
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: mcw3734 on April 24, 2022, 02:15:38 AM
Trulock has .680 or .700 in ported or non ported, I have a handful of these chokes and like his chokes. I just want to buy the diameter that won't blow the patterns with lead, 4-5's.

I did a comparison of the Trulock .680 and .700 a few years ago with #7.5 TSS. I posted the results here:

https://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,98766.0.html
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on April 24, 2022, 08:29:52 AM
I patterned both 10's yesterday,with the 4 types of ammo and the full chokes they came with,I kept all the targets,not sure If ill get time to post until mid week but I was surprised at how well most shot,I shot at 20,40 and then a little at 50 yards. I am just heading to buy up rest of 10 gauge turkey shells from shop. Then time to get ready for opener tomorrow. I did find the bps 10 held a bit tighter pattern than sp10 with factort full chokes,with all shells. Im confident with both in woods. Ill be testing other chokes as they arrive.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: the Ward on April 24, 2022, 11:25:17 AM
Good deal. Looking forward to seeing your patterning results.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: 457121 on April 24, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
Trulock has .680 or .700 in ported or non ported, I have a handful of these chokes and like his chokes. I just want to buy the diameter that won't blow the patterns with lead, 4-5's.

I did a comparison of the Trulock .680 and .700 a few years ago with #7.5 TSS. I posted the results here:

https://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,98766.0.html
Thanks for re-posting your test. I missed it the first time. I have that Trulock .700" also for my Rem choke barrel. The choke I'm constantly threatening to buy is the Patternmaster Code Black Turkey .695" to test. I'm really curious about it's performance with #4 & #5 lead loads.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: 457121 on April 24, 2022, 02:06:04 PM
I patterned both 10's yesterday,with the 4 types of ammo and the full chokes they came with,I kept all the targets,not sure If ill get time to post until mid week but I was surprised at how well most shot,I shot at 20,40 and then a little at 50 yards. I am just heading to buy up rest of 10 gauge turkey shells from shop. Then time to get ready for opener tomorrow. I did find the bps 10 held a bit tighter pattern than sp10 with factort full chokes,with all shells. Im confident with both in woods. Ill be testing other chokes as they arrive.
I hunting with the std. Invector full choke in my BPS for years and killed six gobblers with it. I then bought a factory Browning (said made by Briley on the package) X-tra full/trap flush tube. It measured .734" vs. the .739" of the stock full tube. It made no difference in patterns and that's when I started trying extended turkey chokes years ago. Waiting for your results.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on May 01, 2022, 05:14:59 PM
I had a few minutes yesterday in between hunting to go and shoot the sp-10 with the extra full turkey flush choke I bought and It shot better with both winchester 5's and was outstanding with Federal Grand slam 4's, I didnt keep target or a picture,as I was just quickly trying to see if it would shoot better than the full, and It did, I only fired those 2 types of shells.. I was surprised at how well it shot the grand slams, out to 40,well....maybe a tad more too but..., I then carried it the rest of the day and did a lot of walking,came close on a few birds but no shots. The gun is heavy, but the sling I put on it makes a difference. I am hoping my comp n chokes arrive shortly. I have made a decision to only carry the 2 10's and 2 of my 12's this year, I am gonna rest the 20's until maybe the last week.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on May 01, 2022, 05:31:58 PM
Looks like my .705 comp n choke will be here by Tuesday,I'll be able to pattern them next weekend.
Title: Re: Remington Sp-10
Post by: RED NECK on May 18, 2022, 07:41:39 PM
Ive carried the 10's on a few hunts each,not a lot,I just have not been out as much this year as the past few,work commitments, but I have shot the .705 and patterned with the gs #4's, I was more than happy with pattern and didn't shoot any other shells, I will after season but I am off tomorrow and I plan on taking the sp-10 in the morning, and then we will go from there as I'll be stopping at home to eat, and then head up top other area if no luck first thing, maybe I'll grab the bps 10. I sure would love to put a longbeard down with a 10 gauge, still have a tag left and until May 31st at 7pm.