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Title: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 02, 2022, 10:34:35 AM
I have a choice between either gun to make,I am only interested in these choices, so I would like to hear owners thoughts on both,for me I don't think I'll let the price difference be an issue.I am going in as these are same cost.I  honestly like both but I am only looking to buy one, I can't find a whole lot of patterning on these guns. I like both options and will be ordering either online when I decide. Tell me about your pro's and con's about these models,not interested in other models, or info,other threads for that on here...Thanks.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: walk2slow on March 02, 2022, 11:51:34 AM
I have the Mossberg 410, with the Federal tss #9th it throw a good enough patterns at 35 yards to kill a turkey and this is with the choke tube that came with the gun the action is a little rough but it only been shot 10 times,
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 02, 2022, 12:17:42 PM
I have a little 20 gauge mossberg 500 super bantam turkey and its unreal after It is broken in, I love the gun and it patterns amazing. I have been back and forth for about 10 days on these guns and I keep coming back to the mossberg 500, I think I like the pro's on it over the pro's on the 870 .410, like you said, this just going to be a turkey gun eventually and a gun I carry grouse hunting and maybe for a box of 25 shells out of a year. It won't get a lot of hard use.

I am most likely going to purchase tomorrow or the next day.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: walk2slow on March 02, 2022, 08:21:25 PM
One more thing about the Mossberg, if you need any parts for it look at their web site, I have ordered parts for my buddy 835 and my 500 (firing pin, springs ect.) good selection if you happen to take it apart and loose something or something wears out, I have a 500 12gauge that I had for years and it works slick, I also have a 870 with a 22in turkey barrel, I like the Remington but  I'll take the Mossberg  everytime. I like the 410 due to having shoulder problems, had to park the big boys.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: skimerhorn on March 02, 2022, 08:29:33 PM
I'd go 870
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 02, 2022, 09:01:46 PM
Ya, still deciding, there is nothing that I don't like about either gun to be fair other than I wish the 870 had swivel studs on it, I'd have to buy a new sling, but I'd probably buy one for the mossberg as well.

I do like the tang safety because I am a southpaw but that has never been an issue on any gun I have ever purchased, I just happen to prefer them. I'd be shooting Federal #9's as I can find them up here to basically target shoot a little and get red dot dialed in, as I can't hunt turkeys with a .410 yet but I can take it on trips to certain states the next few years if we start travelling again south of the border.

I have been looking and really can't find out much info on either, or much patterning info. It all seems to be for the stevens 301 .410 , I bought one as well but I want a pump. I am not gonna use the  301 .410 as my "go too" .410 turkey gun. It's a great back up and a great little gun for the price.

I'd buy the sa-410 turkey from Mossberg but I honestly can find two .410's in camo up here,both pumps.So I'll buy one of these and a nice little red dot and eventually 6-8 boxes of tss so i have it,hopefully shoot less than a box, or a box and keep rest so I have it.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 03, 2022, 09:54:25 AM
I made my decision and bought the gun, It is time to buy a new sling for the new gun I decided on,I am ordering the ammo after I type this...What a great day, I joined the just legal enough to be considered "middle age" club, yet still have lots of hair and only a little grey in my beard still.....old enough to care, young enough that I don't give a s...t.....
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 03, 2022, 10:55:00 AM
The ammo is ordered,time to find a new sling and 1 aftermarket choke as well. Any idea on which gun you think I purchased? :popcorn:
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: WildTigerTrout on March 03, 2022, 02:07:38 PM
My guess is you bought the Mossberg.  Why? Because you are left handed and the safety is in a better place for you.  Also the Remington does not come with sling studs!  At the price they want for one you would think they could spring for sling studs.  IIRC the Remington is built on their 20 Ga. receiver which makes it heavier.  IMO the Remington is also overpriced.  I own a 2018 vintage Mossberg "Baby" Model 500(which is built on a smaller .410 sized receiver) 26" barrel fixed full choke covered in Mossy Oak Obsession camo. I really like it.  I hope you like yours too if you bought the Mossberg! Ha! ;D  Am I right about which one you bought?
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 03, 2022, 02:48:25 PM
It was probably the toughest decision I have made on a shotgun, and I actually purchased the Remington in the end, I like my handful of Mossbergs and Remingtons, I really did not have any "favorite" I just felt that the Remington was the better gun for me, even with no sling swivels, I like the sight option, even though I could have just purchased a similiar one for gun. I am happy with my decision as the last 10 or so days I have been debating on which gun, I actually was leaning towards the 500 until last night.

I am not going to lie, I think it's overpriced as well, It was $188.15 more than the mossberg 500. I wasn't basing my purchase on price,honestly I don't think the Remington is worth that much more,It was not a consideration in my purchase though. The biggest reason I decided to stick with the Remington is that It was the gun I first wanted to buy a year ago and then had a mixup and it was not the correct gun etc. 

I think both guns would be an excellent choice for anybody for a pump. I am excited to get this gun and pattern it.

I purchased a Butler creek easy rider sling in Mossy Oak Break-Up for it, and I am going to buy a little red dot for it in the next few weeks as well.

I am going to try and get my buddy to purchase the Mossberg 500 .410 in original bottomland,I am going to text him until he does.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: limhnger on March 04, 2022, 04:10:35 PM
Seems that you can rest easy now...
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: Hawgfan on March 04, 2022, 04:17:30 PM
I had one of those little Mossberg 500's in Bottomland camo. Sweet little pump but like a dummy, I let my buddy talk me out of it. I bought a Mossberg SA-410 in Bottomland and absolutely love it.


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Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 04, 2022, 11:26:52 PM
I would like to add another .410 in the future, I wanted a semi but I could not find something I liked right now.

I may buy the 500 in the future, if It's still avalaible at the shop, I love adding shotguns to my collection. The Mossberg is a sharp looking gun in the bottomland original, and I know it will kill as many birds as any others.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: squirrel_hunter on March 08, 2022, 12:03:19 PM
I have the mossberg's 500 410 and sa 410 both in tss turkey guns. I first bought the 500 model first.  I bought it just for squirrel hunting.  But started turkey hunting with both. I never used the factory turkey choke. I bought a IC .385 and carlson tss chokes. Both shoots very well in them. I am using apex ninja  in both.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: walk2slow on March 09, 2022, 09:52:53 PM
You bought a good gun, it comes down to what you want, as for being 188.00 dollars more, that not much to have what you want .
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 09, 2022, 10:45:01 PM
So, I can't seem to purchase anything but Federal tss #9's, and I can't seem to locate an IC .380 anywhere for sale. I would like to purchase at least one other turkey choke to test alongside the stock turkey choke before I shoot any tss from gun.

I have watched every .410 patterning test I can find,but seeing as I am stuck with Federal tss #9 for the time being, I am now on the hunt for a choke,if stock choke patterns better,oh well. So be it.

What are Rem 870  410 tss owners shooting for chokes?  with Federal Tss#9's ?
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 11, 2022, 01:05:54 PM
My gun arrived this morning, I took it apart and cleaned barrel really good as It was extremely dirty,I took base off and loctited the screws better with blue loctite and snugged it back down, I have 5 boxes of Fed tss #9 on the way, and I am researching another choke before I shoot and I am going to put a little bushnell rxs 100 on the gun before I shoot it.  My initial thoughts is that the pump is as smooth as any I have ever had out of a box,gun feels good,is light and I hope I can get it shooting with not a lot of headache but we shall see.

I am not sold on the slip on sling, I ordered some black key rings and paracord and plan on making my own quick detach for a normal sling next week, and if that does not suit me. I may get it drilled in stock and install a bolt on swivel stud and a metal slip behind on mag cap for sling attachment.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 11, 2022, 06:59:16 PM
I ended up using some black d-loop material I had here from my shop and made some slipknot loops and then attached a little claw sling I had here that came with my cva accura mr-x nitride, and I am all set. I didn't end up using the little black key rings to clip sling on too. I will try and post up some pictures of this setup later tonight or this weekend.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 14, 2022, 09:07:56 PM
Here is gun setup with a trs-22 red dot,I wrapped it in bottomland and the sling setup, and 3 boxes of the tss I ordered, I have 2 more en route. I am planning on deep cleaning the barrel here in the next week or so, and hopefully get some lead & tss on paper in the next few weeks once it warms up.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 14, 2022, 09:11:39 PM
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Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 19, 2022, 07:57:02 PM
I ordered some hoppes #9,bore brush and I had purchased the swivel eyes to have the synthetic stock drilled and instal the swivel eye. I went with the bolt in swivels, I already installed one on the mag cap and used blue loctite to keep it tight, I dropped gun off at my gunsmith and had him drill the stock,I could have done it but I trust him, he does excellent work and It cost me next to nothing and keeps a little cash in his pocket.I'll pick it up sometime next week when I am back up in that area.

I couldn't go "ghetto' with the sling, I had to be able to install a sling the "normal" way, or it would bother me.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 22, 2022, 06:01:46 PM
I picked my .410 up this afternoon and he did an excellent job with the sling swivel installation, I plan on deep cleaning the barrel in the next few days and get out next weekend to shoot it.I'll get a few pictures up later tonight.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on March 22, 2022, 08:18:17 PM
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Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: Critter on April 15, 2022, 03:43:46 PM
I just drilled our 870 .410 for swivels also.  I couldn't do the slip on sling either.  I used the Uncle Mikes 15612 kit, drilled and tapped the magazine cap for the swivel, epoxyed the stock stud in to make sure it didn't pull out of the stock.
Title: Re: Remington 870 .410 tss or Mossberg 500 .410 turkey 24" original bottomland
Post by: RED NECK on April 15, 2022, 04:22:54 PM
Well, tomorrow is the day, I have 3 of my .410's packed, 2 20 gauges and a 12 gauge ready to shoot. Then I'll have at least 1 more trip to pattern with a few other guns before my season opens on 25th. I have 3 boxes of .410 target loads to get red dots on, and hopefully only use 3 tss #9's, 1 from each gun to get a good pattern at 40 yards. I am not gonna use a lot of ammo if the Rem 870 tss won't pattern decent with stock choke. I only ended up getting 3 boxes,not 5 as they never processed my 2nd order, but If they shoot out of my guns,I'll order more.

If I can load my own .410 tss shells, I am going to start, even if I have to build 250 of them in the next 5 years before we are allowed to use them turkey hunting. I'll shoot grouse with the .410's and 6's until I can shoot turkeys.