What is your favorite long distance sounding calls? One that is your go to call on those winding days and just trying to strike a gobble from a gobbler. Few of my favorites is purpleheart lid over mahogany box, ceramic pot and crystal pot ..
Paddle call for sure. Sometimes a Quaker Boy aluminum in a black plastic pot I found on the clearance table for $5 paired with a maple striker I whittled with a knife.
99% of the time, its these two boxes, maple over persimmon long box and/or mac ebony over reclaimed chestnut mini boat. Or a Watkins chakte viga over black limba misfit, which just joined the vest a year ago. All can reach out with volume, and get super soft up close.
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A tube , trumpet or a all- cedar longbox.
Trumpet and nothing else.
I think that's the time and place where the box call can't be beat.
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Quote from: paboxcall on February 04, 2022, 02:37:58 PM
Paddle call for sure. Sometimes a Quaker Boy aluminum in a black plastic pot I found on the clearance table for $5 paired with a maple striker I whittled with a knife.
99% of the time, its these two boxes, maple over persimmon long box and/or mac ebony over reclaimed chestnut mini boat. Or a Watkins chakte viga over black limba misfit, which just joined the vest a year ago. All can reach out with volume, and get super soft up close.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51275889040_2c264b1cda_c.jpg)
A couple beauties! Another vote for a longbox here...also a glass pot call can cover some territory.
Quote from: paboxcall on February 04, 2022, 02:37:58 PM
Paddle call for sure. Sometimes a Quaker Boy aluminum in a black plastic pot I found on the clearance table for $5 paired with a maple striker I whittled with a knife.
99% of the time, its these two boxes, maple over persimmon long box and/or mac ebony over reclaimed chestnut mini boat. Or a Watkins chakte viga over black limba misfit, which just joined the vest a year ago. All can reach out with volume, and get super soft up close.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51275889040_2c264b1cda_c.jpg)
Nice hat there got it from Ralph? I Have a long box from him and another call from Ralph.
Quote from: greencop01 on February 04, 2022, 03:31:01 PM
Nice hat there got it from Ralph? I Have a long box from him and another call from Ralph.
Yep, straight from Ralph. Handed it to me after a winter season hunt out of state few years back.
Aluminum Pot Call and a Paddle for sure.
A trumpet or a good longbox.
A tube call in the right hands
Watkins Fiddle Paddle, IPE over Black Limba or a Trumpet
Quaker Boy boat paddle box call.
I luv long boxes but had great luck w a Loius Stowe glass call last year. Reached way out, & brought them in close. MIke
It's interesting you said purpleheart because I used a new Shoemaker pupleheart over poplar short box last season that really seamed to draw them in. It has quickly become a favorite "go to" proven winner. In years past, a Steve Mann red cedar over butternut longbox that screams bloody murder was as loud as I ever needed to be.
Definitely a box of one sort or another.
Walnut/walnut is high pitched
Purpleheart/mahogany is one of my favorites
Purpleheart/purpleheart is high pitched.
By FAR the loudest call I ever owned (or saw) is the FoxPro Crooked Spur Series Rude Snood. Padauk/poplar with a hole routed out of the bottom of the call. If you wanna be heard a couple of zip codes away...........
High pitch actually doesn't travel as far. That misnomer was started by mark druery of mad calls. The same guy that sold that dead silence dog whistle to market. We all knO how that went. The drumming of a Tom actually carries farther.
Quote from: mmclain on February 04, 2022, 08:40:42 PM
High pitch actually doesn't travel as far. That misnomer was started by mark druery of mad calls. The same guy that sold that dead silence dog whistle to market. We all knO how that went. The drumming of a Tom actually carries farther.
at a sportsman show I tried an experiment with 5 dog bells, I walked far away from the venders table and rang each bell. The lowest pitch bell was the easiest to hear over the distance and noise of the crowd for the 4 people that were listening.
Wingbone or trumpet
All cedar longbox from TJ. I don't necessarily like the turkey sounds it makes, but the gobblers do and it has worked great in the wind and at long distances.
This is an interesting, related thread.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php?topic=20787.0
Pitch, tone, frequency, whatever you want to call it, that's one thing; and, yes, as has been said apples to apples two sounds at the same volume/intensity, lower tones travel farther. But things aren't apples to apples. Volume/intensity of sound is at play. And I'd be willing to bet that if you could get the volume out of a wingbone that you could get out of a long box you'd probably suck a crack in the side of the call.
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You don't need the high volume out of a wingbone or trumpet. Played at normal volume, it's amazing how far they can strike a gobble. I've been running them for over 30 years and am constantly amazed.
First load call is my Primos Heart Breaker Battleship boat paddle, Second, I have a Matt Van Cise Crystal Wenge with a Snakewood striker that can scream in the wind.... These 2 have proven them selves on very windy days.....
A couple of us tried this experiment several years back, 2 people with walkie talkie's separated by 2 sections of woods and a large cut hay field, we were about 500yds apart.
the mouth call (diaphragm), which some people think is the loudest, probably because the sound is right there by you ear, carried the least amount of distance, could barely hear it.
Cody glass pot call was next worst, louder than mouth call
next was longbox, I don't remember wood combo, noticeable improvement over pot call.
the loudest easiest to hear in the group was a wingbone call, noticeably easier to hear than the others.
All calls were used by facing the listener.
Did not try a tube that day, but now am going to have to for a comparison. I would expect it to be up there at the top.
I don't think in this case the pitch of the wingbone had any thing to do with it, more that it is directional in it's sound. I think either Mark P. or Kerry T. on the Dave Owens video said a trumpet is directional like a turkey choke, pot and box calls send sound spread out like an open choke.
Very interesting... keep the post coming ... thanks everyone...
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 06, 2022, 12:49:22 PM
Very interesting... keep the post coming ... thanks everyone...
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Quote from: Tom007 on February 06, 2022, 10:49:10 AM
First load call is my Primos Heart Breaker Battleship boat paddle, Second, I have a Matt Van Cise Crystal Wenge with a Snakewood striker that can scream in the wind.... These 2 have proven them selves on very windy days.....
I can attest that Texas Rios can hear a Primos Battleship farther away than you can hear them gobble back to it. And if you walk slow enough.........you'll kill most of them. :icon_thumright:
Quote from: Yoder409 on February 06, 2022, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on February 06, 2022, 10:49:10 AM
First load call is my Primos Heart Breaker Battleship boat paddle, Second, I have a Matt Van Cise Crystal Wenge with a Snakewood striker that can scream in the wind.... These 2 have proven them selves on very windy days.....
I can attest that Texas Rios can hear a Primos Battleship farther away than you can hear them gobble back to it. And if you walk slow enough.........you'll kill most of them. :icon_thumright:
You bet, most boat paddles can call loud but the Battleship screams. It can also call soft too. Good call...be well...
Quote from: Tom007 on February 06, 2022, 04:46:17 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on February 06, 2022, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Tom007 on February 06, 2022, 10:49:10 AM
First load call is my Primos Heart Breaker Battleship boat paddle, Second, I have a Matt Van Cise Crystal Wenge with a Snakewood striker that can scream in the wind.... These 2 have proven them selves on very windy days.....
I can attest that Texas Rios can hear a Primos Battleship farther away than you can hear them gobble back to it. And if you walk slow enough.........you'll kill most of them. :icon_thumright:
You bet, most boat paddles can call loud but the Battleship screams. It can also call soft too. Good call...be well...
I liked the way the Battleship worked my first trip to Texas that I sent Steve Kimble some purpleheart and mahogany lumber to build me a couple matched sets for the next time I went there.
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My, but that's a lousy picture........
Sorry
Quote from: crow on February 06, 2022, 11:03:44 AM
A couple of us tried this experiment several years back, 2 people with walkie talkie's separated by 2 sections of woods and a large cut hay field, we were about 500yds apart.
the mouth call (diaphragm), which some people think is the loudest, probably because the sound is right there by you ear, carried the least amount of distance, could barely hear it.
Cody glass pot call was next worst, louder than mouth call
next was longbox, I don't remember wood combo, noticeable improvement over pot call.
the loudest easiest to hear in the group was a wingbone call, noticeably easier to hear than the others.
All calls were used by facing the listener.
Did not try a tube that day, but now am going to have to for a comparison. I would expect it to be up there at the top.
I don't think in this case the pitch of the wingbone had any thing to do with it, more that it is directional in it's sound. I think either Mark P. or Kerry T. on the Dave Owens video said a trumpet is directional like a turkey choke, pot and box calls send sound spread out like an open choke.
That's super interesting, [mention]crow [/mention]! Sure wouldn't have figured. That would make good sense, though, the directional aspect, and that's something I sure hadn't thought about.
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That directional aspect is probably why a longbox works so well for striking a far off, unknown gobbler since we usually don't know it's directional angle. But if you did have an idea of its direction than maybe a trumpet is a better tool for the job. I'll have to try that this season. Interesting information.
Quote from: Yoder409 on February 06, 2022, 05:58:23 PM
My, but that's a lousy picture........
Sorry
See if this works
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Quote from: gergg on February 06, 2022, 08:31:26 PM
Quote from: Yoder409 on February 06, 2022, 05:58:23 PM
My, but that's a lousy picture........
Sorry
See if this works
(https://i.imgur.com/KPSbQdV.jpg?1)
Thank you, sir !!!
Use to have a Jerry "Dad's" White purple heart over poplar short box that would reach out there and snatch a gobble.
I'd say def a long box. I should add some to think about. I always state limited information is just that. The test about trying dif calls is sorta limited. Is interesting though but take the diaphragm, for one who was actually using it? That'll matter some I'd think, than the type, that goes for any call. I know I have a bunch of say pots or long boxes that vary. Heck I can take exact surface types say green slate, run them side by side and one is super loud sounding, one much more subdued. Also we need to take into account the way birds hear I'd think. It's not our ears but a birds. I've called birds I could see gobble by sticking their neck out so far away I never heard them until they got much closer but they were coming to my call and wound up dead. This was before I had hearing issues. Anyway, as interesting as test might be I believe there might be lots of variables. Bet wind, terrain, foliage density, etc also add to equation. Food for thought
Quote from: EZ on February 06, 2022, 10:06:49 AM
You don't need the high volume out of a wingbone or trumpet. Played at normal volume, it's amazing how far they can strike a gobble. I've been running them for over 30 years and am constantly amazed.
I am with you on that!!! A good box can reach out there also but I know those suction calls travel far and cut the wind.One bird I shot a few years ago while using your wingbone was probably in 20+ mph winds and I wasn't hammering on the call at all. I think a turkey can hear them from a couple miles away if there isn't a bunch of trees blocking the sound.
Purpleheart over curly maple. They can be made to scream.
Back several years ago in 25 plus mile air winds, i heard a faint gobble a couple of fields over and i hammered down on a Lohman Thunderdome slate and after about 20 minutes or less he came threw the hedge rows and right to me and i carried him out after the kill.. I really don't see how he even heard me in all that wind. It's amazing how they can radar in on sounds. That was the second gobbler ever killed on our farm and i also killed the first one...
Trumpet or paddle call
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I have a old M.A.D super aluminator call that has gotten a many a bird to gobble in all kind of different weather,if I can not make one gobble with it I just move.
Trumpet/wingbone hands down
Crystal or glass for sure
Quote from: WildTigerTrout on February 04, 2022, 05:55:00 PM
Quaker Boy boat paddle box call.
^^ This has worked well for me too.
Grabs 'em by the ears a long ways off.
Jim
I usually go with a Longbox. A Terefencko bloodwood over chestnut or a Gresser walnut over cottonwood. I also use a Gibson crow call but I Don't use it to try and sound like a crow, just short blasts as loud as I can make it.
Low frequency sound carries farther. You can measure that. How far a call carries depends on how clean the production of sound.
Quote from: howl on March 21, 2022, 06:17:53 AM
Low frequency sound carries farther. You can measure that. How far a call carries depends on how clean the production of sound.
I dont know how a turkey hears but I have a high frequency loose. I can hear a dove or a gobble way way out there but I small tweety bird up close not so much.
Scratch box is my go to high pitched long distance call. Close second is a purpleheart crystal pot.