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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 12 ga Winchester turkey gun patterns => Topic started by: NYthunderchicken on May 08, 2021, 09:05:53 AM

Title: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: NYthunderchicken on May 08, 2021, 09:05:53 AM
Just patterned my new winchester SXP longbeard.  Was not impressed, not sure what to do.  62 pellets in the 10 ring at 50 yards with 3 inch federal #9 TSS, with the carlson choke it comes with (I think its a .665).  Cleaned the gun quick but didn't mess with patches or anything just 4 or 5 pulls with the bore snake.  My brother shoots an SX3 with an indian creek tube so will try that tube on this gun, but expensive to pattern with TSS.  Not looking to take birds past 55 yards or so, but figured on a higher pellet count than that with 9s. 

Any suggestions? 
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: Sir-diealot on May 08, 2021, 03:44:04 PM
Um noticing your name it seems you are from NY if you are hunting here in NY those 9's are illegal, you can only shoot up to (or down to depending on how you view it) number 8's in NY I would hate to see you lose your license over a mistake, bugs me that some places sell it here even though it is illegal to use here.
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: RemingtonRules on May 08, 2021, 04:31:33 PM
How big of a piece of paper were you shooting?  Funny people start at 50 yards to pattern now. 
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: NYthunderchicken on May 08, 2021, 05:43:38 PM
thank you for the reminder, yes aware NY state is #2-#8 but I hunt a lot of states and use the 9s where legal. 
I also have some browning TSS blend shells, they are like 7,8,9 wonder if those would qualify as legal in NY? 

Started patterning much tighter, looked good at 30 and 40 with my old loads (Hevi 13 blends) but I didn't want to burn through too many TSS rounds as they are expensive and just wanted to see what one would do at 50 and was surprised.  I guess I was hoping for at least 100 pellets in 10 inch ring. 
My buddy is a surveyor so I get those giant sheets of paper for him.  Using pretty big paper, no idea how big but like truck hood size approx.
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: RiverBuck on May 08, 2021, 08:03:05 PM
Over 60 pellets at 50 yards seems legit to me.
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: NYthunderchicken on May 09, 2021, 07:54:44 AM
maybe Im off base and should be happy w that.  I usually don't pattern that far, but to be honest, my first time patterning with tss 9s.  shot them for a few years now, but would just shoot them at distances that my old hevi shot magnum blend would reach out to and assume it was more lethal. 
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: Twowithone on May 26, 2021, 04:23:45 PM
3 in the head he,s dead.
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: Tom007 on May 27, 2021, 08:43:15 AM
Just patterned my new winchester SXP longbeard.  Was not impressed, not sure what to do.  62 pellets in the 10 ring at 50 yards with 3 inch federal #9 TSS, with the carlson choke it comes with (I think its a .665).  Cleaned the gun quick but didn't mess with patches or anything just 4 or 5 pulls with the bore snake.  My brother shoots an SX3 with an indian creek tube so will try that tube on this gun, but expensive to pattern with TSS.  Not looking to take birds past 55 yards or so, but figured on a higher pellet count than that with 9s. 

Any suggestions?

My friend has the same gun. He uses the Carlsons .665 choke with 3 1/2 inch Winchester Longbeard 5’s. Great pattern....
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: NYthunderchicken on June 01, 2021, 01:28:33 PM
thank you for the help Tom007

gun had a great season , killed 4 toms with 4 shells, but all inside of 35 yards.  I like to get em close of course but wanna be sure this thing will reach out to 60 nicely on paper before I take a 50 yarder in the field which is my self imposed limit with TSS and 12 ga.
hope you had a great season.
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: gobblerman87 on April 25, 2022, 11:39:20 AM
Try the Carlson longbeard choke .665 #6 lbxr 3” they pattern amazing in that gun with that setup
Title: Re: Awful pattern with new SXP?
Post by: kwild835 on June 07, 2022, 11:28:56 PM
60 in the 10" ring with TSS 9's is really bad, you should easily get three times that many hits at that distance. Are you shooting at a pre-drawn 10" circle or shooting then drawing a circle around the densest part of you pattern?