For the life of me I can't make up my mind which one. All seem about the same. Only thing leaning me towards the Holosun is the reviews that they are better for astigmatism. Thoughts?
Just in case you haven't heard of them, I bought a swampfox kingslayer after reading some good reviews here. Newer company. I haven't got it mounted yet, but think I am really going to like it. I think I was at $155 from optics planet for it which I thought was a good deal. All FYI. good luck
Which one has the most reliable "motion-on", auto-off feature?
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My concern is solid dot and holds zero.
I own the Holosun 507c, Kingslayer and several FF2s and FF3s. I like the holosun as it allows you to change reticle. It's motion activated wake up is excellent. I'm also pretty fond of the kingslayer with green reticle. Only issue there is no on/off or auto brightness features. It's also cheaper though and really nice. No issues at all from my Burris units. The gold standard I'd say. I moved away from them just to try something different. Burris has the new FF4which is similar to the holosun with variable reticle etc. If I had to pick one only prob lean holosun
Quote from: Elmerfudd on March 19, 2021, 12:38:43 AM
I own the Holosun 507c, Kingslayer and several FF2s and FF3s. I like the holosun as it allows you to change reticle. It's motion activated wake up is excellent. I'm also pretty fond of the kingslayer with green reticle. Only issue there is no on/off or auto brightness features. It's also cheaper though and really nice. No issues at all from my Burris units. The gold standard I'd say. I moved away from them just to try something different. Burris has the new FF4which is similar to the holosun with variable reticle etc. If I had to pick one only prob lean holosun
I was thinking about the auto on/off feature - do have to worry about sitting there holding still waiting for Tom to make those final steps into range and it takes 15 mins or more, then he does and your dot has gone off?
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Quote from: Elmerfudd on March 19, 2021, 12:38:43 AM
I own the Holosun 507c, Kingslayer and several FF2s and FF3s. I like the holosun as it allows you to change reticle. It's motion activated wake up is excellent. I'm also pretty fond of the kingslayer with green reticle. Only issue there is no on/off or auto brightness features. It's also cheaper though and really nice. No issues at all from my Burris units. The gold standard I'd say. I moved away from them just to try something different. Burris has the new FF4which is similar to the holosun with variable reticle etc. If I had to pick one only prob lean holosun
I was thinking about the auto on/off feature - do have to worry about sitting there holding still waiting for Tom to make those final steps into range and it takes 15 mins or more, then he does and your dot has gone off?
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I have no "1st hand knowledge" but I have read where 1 guy said he couldn't walk across a room to his gun standing in the corner without the sight turning on. That is pretty sensitive and I doubt you would be able to hold that still for the sight to turn off.
Quote from: Elmerfudd on March 19, 2021, 12:38:43 AM
I own the Holosun 507c, Kingslayer and several FF2s and FF3s. I like the holosun as it allows you to change reticle. It's motion activated wake up is excellent. I'm also pretty fond of the kingslayer with green reticle. Only issue there is no on/off or auto brightness features. It's also cheaper though and really nice. No issues at all from my Burris units. The gold standard I'd say. I moved away from them just to try something different. Burris has the new FF4which is similar to the holosun with variable reticle etc. If I had to pick one only prob lean holosun
Have you hunted with these in the rain?
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I am about to purchase a Holosun 507 with the green dot.
I got the Kingslayer green circle on 870 and I like it.
Just going try the Holosun 507 for the multi reticles.
Burris or Vortex 1st choice then the Holosun. Now we adding some of the Sig stuff now.
The Burris FF III has worked well for me.
Esse quam videri
Quote from: 30_06 on January 27, 2022, 05:42:39 PM
The Burris FF III has worked well for me.
Esse quam videri
X2, I have good luck with them too....
Quote from: SumToy on January 27, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
Burris or Vortex 1st choice then the Holosun. Now we adding some of the Sig stuff now.
Reason?
I just know they stand behind them. They also been around along time.
Now we have the Burris in stock also.
I have the Burris FF3, Vortex Venom, and the Swampfox Kingslayer. I can find no fault with any of them.
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I have a Venom, and it is solid. I bought it because I got a good deal on it. I would have no problem hunting a Burris or Swampfox.
If I were wanting a red dot for anything other than a turkey gun I'd consider the other options, but the 32moa circle on the Holosun 507 makes it perfect for that application. 16" circle at 50yds, an 8" circle at 25yds. Everything inside is getting touched. Personally I like the 507c-gr.
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What about Trijicon?
Having had Holosons, Trijicon's, and Vortex's my vote goes to the Holosuns. I am swapping all of my optics over to them. Affordable and reliable. The side-loading battery feature is also a really nice touch. If you are worried about durability lookup Sage Dynamics on youtube. He does durability tests on all of the major micro optics.
Quote from: tonyzzzz on March 18, 2021, 09:54:57 PM
My concern is solid dot and holds zero.
the ff3 has a solid dot, and i can attest to them holding zero. not only through recoil, but my gun fell off the side of my pickup truck one time, and it held zero. it landed in the gravel. a solid and hard 4 ft drop. i was pretty impressed.
I have a Vortex Venom on a SBE and M-2 which are great. I recently mounted a Holosun 510 C which is a red dot on a Stevens 301 410. I like it!
If you go Holosun look at the HE510C-GR. A little more money because it is a Green Dot. Some people like the Green Dot a little better.
IMO - You can't go wrong with Vortex or Holosun!
Does the auto on keep cycling, when your walking with gun shouldered? I would think on off, on off constantly would use more battery.
I just turn on at first light or first gobble and turn off when i get back to truck. Battery life on these sights are way more than a single season.
I always smile when I hear that first gobble. I look at gun turn sight on and say time for work..lol
However, most shifts are non productive!
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Quote from: Upfold99 on May 05, 2022, 05:45:25 AM
Does the auto on keep cycling, when your walking with gun shouldered? I would think on off, on off constantly would use more battery.
I just turn on at first light or first gobble and turn off when i get back to truck. Battery life on these sights are way more than a single season.
I always smile when I hear that first gobble. I look at gun turn sight on and say time for work..lol
However, most shifts are non productive!
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that's my biggest concern .... I'd rather not have a shake awake feature . I'd rather have manual control all the time . That's just me.
I have really gotten fond of the Leupold Delta Point Pro...it has the auto on/off feature so I turn it on when I get out of the truck and turn it off when I leave. To wake it up just a small movement of the gun and it turns back on. Comes with a built in guard that works great..I have a couple FF III's as well that I have no complaints about either.
Holosun 507 green is wat I switched to from a FF3
I much prefer the Holosun due to the round circle reticle. Put the circle around his head and so far, its been lights out for every bird this year.
I have the Burris FF3, Vortex Venom, and the Swampfox Kingslayer. All work great for us.
I would pick one model and stick with it. Different on/off and brightness controls are a little hard to keep straight for me.
hawk58
I wear contacts and have astigmatism. That said, the FFIII is the cats for me.
Quote from: Sasha and Abby on May 15, 2022, 09:53:55 AM
I wear contacts and have astigmatism. That said, the FFIII is the cats for me.
Curious if you notice a difference in starburst between the FF3 and the other reflex sights? I also have astigmatism and wear contacts and often see at least noticeable if not pronounced starburst on reflex sights.
I wear contacts and I have astigmatism too. I have a Sig Romeo Zero on my P356XL. The bloom with the Romeo Zero is horrible. I have a Trijicon MRS, and the dot is perfect, the reticle on my Holosun 510c is perfect as well!!! Absolutely no problem with Trijicon or the Holosun 510c. I don't know what the difference is but it is huge!
Have a good one
Bo
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I went with the Vortex.
My limited experience with the "shake awake" feature is positive. i have been using the FF3's for years but this year started the season off with a Halosun 407 green dot sight which has the "shake awake" feature. It will not go off on off on while hunting. They come from factory with a default at the 10 minute time frame of inactivity in which it will shut itself off, this can be set for longer durations, and the slightest movement will activate sight and be on. I doubt that most people would be able to hold gun still enough for sight to turn off, it is that sensitive. That being said, I doubt I will give up the simplicity of the FF3's. I also own a Swampfox Justice and Kingslayer along with 5 or 6 FF3's and several Halosuns, green and red dot.
Ridge Rooster
Quote from: Ridge Rooster on May 23, 2022, 07:41:00 PM
My limited experience with the "shake awake" feature is positive. i have been using the FF3's for years but this year started the season off with a Halosun 407 green dot sight which has the "shake awake" feature. It will not go off on off on while hunting. They come from factory with a default at the 10 minute time frame of inactivity in which it will shut itself off, this can be set for longer durations, and the slightest movement will activate sight and be on. I doubt that most people would be able to hold gun still enough for sight to turn off, it is that sensitive. That being said, I doubt I will give up the simplicity of the FF3's. I also own a Swampfox Justice and Kingslayer along with 5 or 6 FF3's and several Halosuns, green and red dot.
Ridge Rooster
I agree about the simplicity of the FF3. Great sight and so easy in the field. I actually got rid of my Trijicon RMR because I did not like the button functions and also because the sight needs to come off to remove the battery. I love the FF3 and have no reason to switch.
I really like both of my Burris FF3's... Can't go wrong with them.
Going through the same decision. There is however a big difference in price:
Burris FF3 - $154.99
Vortex Venom - $249.00
Holosun HS507C - $309.99
Is the holosun worth x2 FF3s? I think Holosun are also made in the philippines with chinese parts, as is the vortex.
Where are you finding Burris ff3 for $154 thanks
There are several big retailers on ebay that sell new (non-refurbished) units. Make sure you look at listings from sellers with 10,000+ reviews.
I ordered one from Vergona Outdoors this week for $159.99 ($171.19 w/tax+ship). There is another retailer now that has them listed for $154.99 ("bigfishbuddy" with 188k reviews)
Quote from: Glades on August 21, 2022, 02:32:17 PM
There are several big retailers on ebay that sell new (non-refurbished) units. Make sure you look at listings from sellers with 10,000+ reviews.
I ordered one from Vergona Outdoors this week for $159.99 ($171.19 w/tax+ship). There is another retailer now that has them listed for $154.99 ("bigfishbuddy" with 188k reviews)
I ordered one from Vergona last week as well.