Morning fellow legionnaires!
I'm seriously considering entering the battlefield this year with a single shot 20g on my shoulder. Like the idea of light weight and easy wield. And I know the right load will bust one just fine. I'd love to hear some experience and recommendations from those experienced with such. Photos are a bonus! I had a friend who used a NEF 20 with 22" barrel and screw-in choke. I think those must be rare as turkey teeth. I e looked at the new Savage/Stevens 301 and it looks good, but barrel is longer than I'd prefer.
So what is the best tool / combo out there?
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Exactly the reason I bought the 301 Compact. Some rattle can paint, A Carlson Longbeard Choke and some Longbeard Shells and it is ready to go.
I used it last season but did not see a turkey.
It is at the gunsmith right now getting a mount installed so I can put a Vortex Venom Red Dot on it.
It is super lightweight and was inexpensive to buy before all this mess, not sure about now!
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I got one of the Steven 301 T in 20ga and i have it in 410 also. I really like the guns and the triggers on them are pretty good also.. I have contacted William at Sumtoy about 562 choke for mine.
Im partial to the NEF/H&R single shots. The american classic single shot shotgun. Used to be a dime a dozen, but unfortunately there not made any more. Ive got a pardner youth 20 ga with fixed full choke and its a 40 yard gun all day. Those NEF's with short threaded barrels are pretty rare in any gauge. Best bang for your buck would definately be a savage 301 turkey. Threaded barrel, scope mount, original bottomland. Only thing that im not a fan of is made in china. Cva makes some nice little single shots also. The Baikal single shots are nice bullet prooof little guns too, but come with fixed chokes. Ive got a baikal single shot 20ga with scope base and trigger job, but just never got around to getting it threaded for chokes, then bought my H&R 20 ga so the baikal is still a project in the works.
Built this little guy for my little guy. Unfortunately he has out grown it and graduated to an old 20 ga 870.
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I really like the Tc encore pro turkey,It's one of my favorite guns.
a lot of different options out there
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on March 03, 2021, 08:35:30 PM
I really like the Tc encore pro turkey,It's one of my favorite guns.
I agree that the TC Encore Pro Hunter is an excellent choice for a single shot 20g. It is a stout, well built, well machined gun with a great fit for most. The trigger is firm, but crisp, no play, no slop just firm, smooth with very little travel before the hammer drops. There are plenty of resources avalible for customization. Bellem's TC is one.
My Encore was purchased around 1990 with a 209x50 muzzel loader barrel. It shoots clover leafs at 100 yards with 110 BH powder and TC Shockwave bullets. This is from a clean barrel before every shot. Dirty it groups about 1 inch to 1.5. The fact that the TC encore has interchangable barrels is another plus. I have a 20 gauge Turkey barrel that I shoot handloaded #9 TSS shot and it is devestating. I have also killed coyotes with the Turkey barrel the last being 53 yards and #4 TSS and dropped him on the spot.
This combination (I do not have a rifle barrel yet) should be a consideration. But for a hard hunting rig for a serious hunter it cannot be beat. Unfortunatly it is a little bit pricy for some and then you add the price of TSS and a lot are shaking their head and head over to the budget counter. Do yourselfe a favor and check out reviews and vidios on youtube.
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Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on March 03, 2021, 08:35:30 PM
I really like the Tc encore pro turkey,It's one of my favorite guns.
I agree that the TC Encore Pro Hunter is an excellent choice for a single shot 20g. It is a stout, well built, well machined gun with a great fit for most. The trigger is firm, but crisp, no play, no slop just firm, smooth with very little travel before the hammer drops. There are plenty of resources avalible for customization. Bellem's TC is one.
My Encore was purchased around 1990 with a 209x50 muzzel loader barrel. It shoots clover leafs at 100 yards with 110 BH powder and TC Shockwave bullets. This is from a clean barrel before every shot. Dirty it groups about 1 inch to 1.5. The fact that the TC encore has interchangable barrels is another plus. I have a 20 gauge Turkey barrel that I shoot handloaded #9 TSS shot and it is devestating. I have also killed coyotes with the Turkey barrel the last being 53 yards and #4 TSS and dropped him on the spot.
This combination (I do not have a rifle barrel yet) should be a consideration. But for a hard hunting rig for a serious hunter it cannot be beat. Unfortunatly it is a little bit pricy for some and then you add the price of TSS and a lot are shaking their head and head over to the budget counter. Do yourselfe a favor and check out reviews and vidios on youtube.
I considered. TC, but they are hard to find as well as expensive. Used would be the only way to go, but not any around.
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I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a 20ga with a fixed full choke barrel using TSS. Sure you may get higher numbers with tighter screw in chokes, but a factory full will give a good deadly pattern.
Local store has a CVA hunter 20GA./243 combo on sale, fixed choke-not full though. I'm intrigued by the price, but haven't found much info searching YouTube. Anyone have experience with the CVA? I would have to send it off to be threaded for choke.
I have the CVA hunter that was sent to Sumtoy. Barrel cut to 20 inches and sum toy .562. Has one of his mounts and a ff3 on it. Barely weighs 5 pounds. Also had it dipped in bottomland. There is a picture of it in a thread I posted a few years back along with a pattern pic.. consistently shoots high 130s low 140s with hevi 13 #7s. Every cva i have shot has great triggers. In my opinion, you cant go wrong with Cva. I like the Savage also I just dont like the extra safety on a ss with a hammer.
This is my setup (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210411/dbfca5ea7a9ddb1fdc2088e929905acf.jpg)
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It's a modified H&R 20 gauge that I sent the barrel to SumToy for a barrel thread and drill and tap for a FFIII.
I put an ATI stock on it, and shoot Federal 3-2.5-9's
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Here's my 20ga H&R. I sent it to Sumtoy and got his choke and a FF3 sight. The bottom gun is my 410 that has also been to Sumtoy. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/4d5d3636e02c80b1df10895c9593e346.jpg)
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Here's the 40 pattern with mine with Federal Heavyweight #6. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/fe4f2cdaffe3848b872f15069ababaab.jpg)
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I bought a Stevens 301 20 gauge compact before the turkey models had came out. It's a 22" barrel versus the 26" of the T versions. It has a threaded barrel. They don't have a rail like the turkey models. I drilled and tapped this one. It's been a shooter with a .575 carlson screwed in it.
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There's nothing tougher than the Baikal MP18 but you won't find one new from a dealer because of the embargo.
It's made by the civilian branch of arms manufacturing of the same concern that makes Kalashnikovs in Russia. Here's
mine:
https://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,26715.0.html
Quote from: gobblergls on May 10, 2021, 05:17:34 PM
There's nothing tougher than the Baikal MP18 but you won't find one new from a dealer because of the embargo.
It's made by the civilian branch of arms manufacturing of the same concern that makes Kalashnikovs in Russia. Here's
mine:
https://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,26715.0.html
??? This is the exact same photo as post #2, but there it is claimed to be a Savage 301 compact. WTH?
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Set this one up several years ago. Killer ... to say the least.
Started out as a NEF topper 88 with the thin barrel.
It's 3.7 lbs of goodness with a 20 inch barrel. Mr. Sumtoy cut and threaded the barrel and tapped a mount for the Venom red dot.
ATI discontinued this M4 style stock. It also has a M4 limbsaver recoil pad. Carlson's Tss choke.
Love this setup. I also found a ATI stock set for a NEF and installed it on a 301 savage 410. No need for a recoil pad on it.
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