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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 12 ga Turkey Gun Pattern Pictures => Topic started by: Tom007 on November 30, 2020, 06:30:52 PM
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I found 10 boxes of 3 inch Heavy 13 #5 2 oz loads.1050 FPS. Does anyone have experience using this load? I am going to try it in my 870 with a .665 Indian Creek. Thanks
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If they pattern well, 100 or so in the 10”, then they will definitely knock the snot out of one. Never shot the 5s but loved the 6s.
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I tried them in my Mossbergs with indian creek chokes. They patterned pretty well but the longbeards patterned better for me. My buddy uses the Hevi 13 and his gun loves them. He either has an 870 or Winchester can't remember which.
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If they pattern well, 100 or so in the 10”, then they will definitely knock the snot out of one. Never shot the 5s but loved the 6s.
Thank you for the feedback. Be safe
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I tried them in my Mossbergs with indian creek chokes. They patterned pretty well but the longbeards patterned better for me. My buddy uses the Hevi 13 and his gun loves them. He either has an 870 or Winchester can't remember which.
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Thank you for the feedback. Be safe
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If you find ammo scoop it up. It's rough here in Tennessee.
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I have been semi hoarding. Have a pretty good pile....thx
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Yeah I have been an ammo and gun hoarder for the past decade before it was cool lol.
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If they pattern well, 100 or so in the 10”, then they will definitely knock the snot out of one. Never shot the 5s but loved the 6s.
Agree. Never toyed with Hevi 5s, but tried 6s and my Jellyhead .660 loved the Hevi 7s so shots 7s for long while.
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I patterned and hunted w/ the "old green/yellow box" Remington #5's for several years w/ good results and my use of the 5's was a "holdover" of a lead shooters mentality. This mentality persisted until I discussed the kinetic energy of the smaller 12-13 gms/cm3 pellets and evaluated them on the patterning board and on 1/4" marine plywood (for years we evaluated the penetration of waterfowl loads at various ranges w/ marine plywood). The HS #5's will definitely kill turkeys, but the patterns produced by the 6's and 7's are really impressive and effective. Both of the HS loads in either 6's or 7's will maintain pattern density over distance much better than the 5's and will cleanly harvest gobblers at ranges in excess of lead.
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I killed my first turkeys with Hevi-13 6’s. The 2nd was at 50 yards. I’d use Hevi-13 as an early-season load for when henned up gobblers hang up, just because the pellets have that kind of down range energy.
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If they pattern well, 100 or so in the 10”, then they will definitely knock the snot out of one. Never shot the 5s but loved the 6s.
Agree. Never toyed with Hevi 5s, but tried 6s and my Jellyhead .660 loved the Hevi 7s so shots 7s for long while.
Decoy's post reminded me that before Hevi hit the scene, I was shooting #5 Winchester Supreme (red hull) in the 2 oz. loads. They patterned really well through an old Hastings .660 choke at 40 yards. So a .660 or .665 would be a good starting place for Hevi #5 if I were patterning them.
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If they pattern well, 100 or so in the 10”, then they will definitely knock the snot out of one. Never shot the 5s but loved the 6s.
Me too. My primary load is 3" Hevi-13, #6, 2oz. through a .660 Jellyhead in an 870. Not shot the 5s either. Not that you asked, but you can`t beat Winchester Longbeards for a lead load, IMHO.
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All great info. I will try the 5’s in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6’s, and 7’s are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it’s cheaper than Apex...
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All great info. I will try the 5’s in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6’s, and 7’s are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it’s cheaper than Apex...
I`ve never shot a TSS load in my life, but then again I`ve only shot 12 gauge guns. No question that TSS has revolutionized sub -gauge guns for turkey hunting. If I were switching to 20 gauge, no question I`d shoot TSS loads. It`s not hard to find folks who believe that in a 12 that TSS costs are not offset by what you gain. I`ve never felt disadvantaged shooting Hevi-13 loads, but I don`t take shots out beyond 35-40 yards. If I can`t get him inside 40, he wins the match. I want to be sure he doesn`t know what`s hit him. I owe him that.
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All great info. I will try the 5’s in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6’s, and 7’s are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it’s cheaper than Apex...
I`ve never shot a TSS load in my life, but then again I`ve only shot 12 gauge guns. No question that TSS has revolutionized sub -gauge guns for turkey hunting. If I were switching to 20 gauge, no question I`d shoot TSS loads. It`s not hard to find folks who believe that in a 12 that TSS costs are not offset by what you gain. I`ve never felt disadvantaged shooting Hevi-13 loads, but I don`t take shots out beyond 35-40 yards. If I can`t get him inside 40, he wins the match. I want to be sure he doesn`t know what`s hit him. I owe him that.
Great info. Yes, 40 is my absolute Max. When I have a gobbler answer, I range a tree in his general direction. If he passes it, and keeps coming, he’s under 40. Works every time. Where do you get your Heavy 13? Thx...
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All great info. I will try the 5’s in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6’s, and 7’s are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it’s cheaper than Apex...
I`ve never shot a TSS load in my life, but then again I`ve only shot 12 gauge guns. No question that TSS has revolutionized sub -gauge guns for turkey hunting. If I were switching to 20 gauge, no question I`d shoot TSS loads. It`s not hard to find folks who believe that in a 12 that TSS costs are not offset by what you gain. I`ve never felt disadvantaged shooting Hevi-13 loads, but I don`t take shots out beyond 35-40 yards. If I can`t get him inside 40, he wins the match. I want to be sure he doesn`t know what`s hit him. I owe him that.
Great info. Yes, 40 is my absolute Max. When I have a gobbler answer, I range a tree in his general direction. If he passes it, and keeps coming, he’s under 40. Works every time. Where do you get your Heavy 13? Thx...
Up until last year, I had ordered some online. I honestly can`t remember from where, but not to worry, when it get`s closer, sites like Midway and others will list it. Also, box stores like Bass Pro will carry it. Last year, a guy wanted to sell 4 boxes of the 6`s for like $40. That stuff is like $20/box or so normally. I couldn`t pass that up. I`ll give 2 boxes to my buddy. Since it`s such low volume shooting, unless something strange happens, between the Hevi-13 I have now and some Long Beard XR that I have, I shouldn`t have to buy anymore turkey loads.
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All great info. I will try the 5’s in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6’s, and 7’s are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it’s cheaper than Apex...
I have shot a few birds with the hevishot 3.5" #5's and #6's at ranges of 20-40 yards give or take a few. This year i was given a box of 3.5" #9 federal tss by a coworker who claimed it would make me never shoot anything else. I shot one at 22 yards this year with it and the results were the same as the hevi-shot and #5 longbeards I have used. The only difference i have seen is price and I am staying with the longbeards and hevi-shot shells I already have.
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Great info, thx guys.....
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A buddy of mine shoots this exact load, gun and choke. It patterns well out to 40 but it will run out of pattern density at 50. Since you have stated 40 is the max, you will be fine even if you misjudge the yardage by a few yards.
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A buddy of mine shoots this exact load, gun and choke. It patterns well out to 40 but it will run out of pattern density at 50. Since you have stated 40 is the max, you will be fine even if you misjudge the yardage by a few yards.
Wow, great news. Will post results. I will also get some Apex 2 1/4 oz #7.5 shot , 3 inch. That load interests me, want to see how it patterns too. I would try smaller TSS, but NJ only allows no smaller than 7.5 shot. Be safe, be well.
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My personnel opinion on TSS in a 12 gauge is WAYYYYYY overkill. TSS does a GREAT job for 20's and .410's to up the pellet count and make them legitimate 40 yard guns. If you are planning on staying inside 40 then pass on the TSS. I would find some Hevi 6's or 7's or Longbeard 6's and give them a try before I went the TSS route. I shoot an 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke with Hevi 7's and they are devastating. My 2 cents.
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My personnel opinion on TSS in a 12 gauge is WAYYYYYY overkill. TSS does a GREAT job for 20's and .410's to up the pellet count and make them legitimate 40 yard guns. If you are planning on staying inside 40 then pass on the TSS. I would find some Hevi 6's or 7's or Longbeard 6's and give them a try before I went the TSS route. I shoot an 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke with Hevi 7's and they are devastating. My 2 cents.
Good advice, could save some coin too. Will get the heavy 6, and 7. They should shoot lights out with my Indian Creek .665 out of my bottomland 870.....thx again for great info....
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My personnel opinion on TSS in a 12 gauge is WAYYYYYY overkill. TSS does a GREAT job for 20's and .410's to up the pellet count and make them legitimate 40 yard guns. If you are planning on staying inside 40 then pass on the TSS. I would find some Hevi 6's or 7's or Longbeard 6's and give them a try before I went the TSS route. I shoot an 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke with Hevi 7's and they are devastating. My 2 cents.
Good advice, could save some coin too. Will get the heavy 6, and 7. They should shoot lights out with my Indian Creek .665 out of my bottomland 870.....thx again for great info....
You won't be disappointed with the Hevi 6's or 7's or the Longbeard 6's with that .675 Indian Creek. IMO, probably one of the best chokes for the 870. Coin wise, LB's are about $1.50 to $2 per shell to shoot, Hevi around $4 to $5 and TSS $8 to $10. All will do the job very effectively.
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
You are 100% correct. To take it a step farther, I bought a Sight Lite Laser bore sighter. It has saved me a ton of money on shells. When I bore sight a turkey gun, I seldom if at all have to move the adjustments. Then I use a light load. It is usually dead on. I put the gun in a dead sled, level the gun and weather it’s a scope or red dot, I dial that laser in. Works fantastic. Thank you for your input on this, I learn a lot on this forum.
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My personnel opinion on TSS in a 12 gauge is WAYYYYYY overkill. TSS does a GREAT job for 20's and .410's to up the pellet count and make them legitimate 40 yard guns. If you are planning on staying inside 40 then pass on the TSS. I would find some Hevi 6's or 7's or Longbeard 6's and give them a try before I went the TSS route. I shoot an 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke with Hevi 7's and they are devastating. My 2 cents.
Good advice, could save some coin too. Will get the heavy 6, and 7. They should shoot lights out with my Indian Creek .665 out of my bottomland 870.....thx again for great info....
You won't be disappointed with the Hevi 6's or 7's or the Longbeard 6's with that .675 Indian Creek. IMO, probably one of the best chokes for the 870. Coin wise, LB's are about $1.50 to $2 per shell to shoot, Hevi around $4 to $5 and TSS $8 to $10. All will do the job very effectively.
Thanks my friend.
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
You guys are spot on. I like the red dot, but my scoped turkey guns are my favorite. Nothing like that crosshair on that waddle, he’s toast. When I was young, the double bead worked with my young eyes. Once I went to optics, there’s no going back. Love them.....be safe...
Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!
I had a Mossberg 500 12 ga. that was 3-4 inches right and 4 inches low shooting two beads. It can happen, and unless you check you won't know.
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!
I had a Mossberg 500 12 ga. that was 3-4 inches right and 4 inches low shooting two beads. It can happen, and unless you check you won't know.
You bet. I never hunt with anything that has not been range checked so I know exactly what’s going on. Great info my friend.....
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!
I had a Mossberg 500 12 ga. that was 3-4 inches right and 4 inches low shooting two beads. It can happen, and unless you check you won't know.
You bet. I never hunt with anything that has not been range checked so I know exactly what’s going on. Great info my friend.....
105% agree!
Its getting to be that time of year again. So its good to refresh this kind of info so new turkey hunters don't just grab the first gun out of the safe, a handful of shells and try and call up a turkey without doing their homework.
No one would dare venture into the deer woods without spending time at the range. Same applies here in principle. Those patterns are super small at 15 - 25 yards but those small patterns also have fliers.
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!
I had a Mossberg 500 12 ga. that was 3-4 inches right and 4 inches low shooting two beads. It can happen, and unless you check you won't know.
You bet. I never hunt with anything that has not been range checked so I know exactly what’s going on. Great info my friend.....
105% agree!
Its getting to be that time of year again. So its good to refresh this kind of info so new turkey hunters don't just grab the first gun out of the safe, a handful of shells and try and call up a turkey without doing their homework.
No one would dare venture into the deer woods without spending time at the range. Same applies here in principle. Those patterns are super small at 15 - 25 yards but those small patterns also have fliers.
You bet PA. This may sound weird, but I enjoy sighting in and shooting paper turkey targets, shooting my deer guns, bows all in preparation for my hunts just as much as hunting itself. Scouting, setting stands, its all just as much fun. Be safe my friend...
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Tom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!
I had a Mossberg 500 12 ga. that was 3-4 inches right and 4 inches low shooting two beads. It can happen, and unless you check you won't know.
You bet. I never hunt with anything that has not been range checked so I know exactly what’s going on. Great info my friend.....
105% agree!
Its getting to be that time of year again. So its good to refresh this kind of info so new turkey hunters don't just grab the first gun out of the safe, a handful of shells and try and call up a turkey without doing their homework.
No one would dare venture into the deer woods without spending time at the range. Same applies here in principle. Those patterns are super small at 15 - 25 yards but those small patterns also have fliers.
You be PA. This may sound weird, but I enjoy sighting in and shooting paper turkey targets, shooting my deer guns, bows all in preparation for my hunts just as much as hunting itself. Scouting, setting stands, its all just as much fun. Be safe my friend...
Not a thing weird about that. The process and planning are all a part of it and a major part of the fun for me. I like to be successful as much as the next hunter, but I`m not ashamed to admit that as I`ve grown older, pulling the trigger has become less of a focus. I NEVER have a bad day in the woods. There`s so much to see and appreciate out there, that God`s given us, if we just stop and look.
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Well said my friends, well said.....be safe
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Not a thing weird about that. The process and planning are all a part of it and a major part of the fun for me. I like to be successful as much as the next hunter, but I`m not ashamed to admit that as I`ve grown older, pulling the trigger has become less of a focus. I NEVER have a bad day in the woods. There`s so much to see and appreciate out there, that God`s given us, if we just stop and look.
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Well said TR! I'm glad Tombo has started this thread. Most of us are 4 to 5 months away from our opener and haven't turned our attention to PREPARATION yet. When setting up our equipment, we need to prepare EARLY. I enjoy January, February and March, in anticipation of our opener in April by getting my 835 ready, practicing my calling and checking on everything turkey. Good Luck setting up that 870.
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Not a thing weird about that. The process and planning are all a part of it and a major part of the fun for me. I like to be successful as much as the next hunter, but I`m not ashamed to admit that as I`ve grown older, pulling the trigger has become less of a focus. I NEVER have a bad day in the woods. There`s so much to see and appreciate out there, that God`s given us, if we just stop and look.
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Well said TR! I'm glad Tombo has started this thread. Most of us are 4 to 5 months away from our opener and haven't turned our attention to PREPARATION yet. When setting up our equipment, we need to prepare EARLY. I enjoy January, February and March, in anticipation of our opener in April by getting my 835 ready, practicing my calling and checking on everything turkey. Good Luck setting up that 870.
Thanks my friend. Yea, we are all thinking about those feathered friends. You bet preparation is as fun as the hunt themselves. Be safe, be well