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Title: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Prohunter3509 on August 15, 2019, 09:15:53 PM
Which one is it I need and what strength to mix it too
One is for around farm don't need that one
Want the one I need for my clothes and no smell
For hunting
Thanks guys
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Old Timer on August 15, 2019, 09:26:53 PM
Buy the sawyers,comes in yellow bottle. Its pre mixed and i been using it for years. Have not been bitten  while using this product. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Prohunter3509 on August 15, 2019, 09:34:12 PM
That's what I have been using
I think I will mix my own this year
Starting in deer season
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 15, 2019, 09:37:25 PM
I got this and it seems to work very well and you get much more for your money. I am just not sure I am mixing it right, the thing on the left is supposed to measure some out for you I thought but I can only get it to fill the right side. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00061MSS0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: tal on August 15, 2019, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 15, 2019, 09:37:25 PM
I got this and it seems to work very well and you get much more for your money. I am just not sure I am mixing it right, the thing on the left is supposed to measure some out for you I thought but I can only get it to fill the right side. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00061MSS0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've bought my own for years. With ticks as thick as they are and all the disease they carry I do not short change clothes treatment. This bottle has a measure side for 1/2 oz, 1 oz. Most you  buy at farm supply are a petroleum base. There is a water base best for clothes, your choice. My hunting duds don't mind it. If you are wearing some light colored casuals you'll want the water base. But smell? Not for deer hunting or ca-yotes.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: tal on August 15, 2019, 10:02:17 PM
 The mix instructions should be a part of the label. They will have charts to include tractor sprayers, 50 to 100 gallon mixes. You can see how much per gallon, mix for a quart sprayer. I usually mix mine twice the strength. Most commercial mixes only use .5% of permethrin. It's strong stuff.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 15, 2019, 10:44:05 PM
Quote from: tal on August 15, 2019, 10:02:17 PM
The mix instructions should be a part of the label. They will have charts to include tractor sprayers, 50 to 100 gallon mixes. You can see how much per gallon, mix for a quart sprayer. I usually mix mine twice the strength. Most commercial mixes only use .5% of permethrin. It's strong stuff.
The stuff I linked is the water based and I bought if for the reason you mentioned. The thing does not stay filled for some reason unless I keep pressure on it.

Quote from: tal on August 15, 2019, 10:02:17 PM
The mix instructions should be a part of the label. They will have charts to include tractor sprayers, 50 to 100 gallon mixes. You can see how much per gallon, mix for a quart sprayer. I usually mix mine twice the strength. Most commercial mixes only use .5% of permethrin. It's strong stuff.
I can't read the print on it, way to small, even with a magnifying glass. My eyes are not the greatest.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Prohunter3509 on August 15, 2019, 10:50:12 PM
 :thanks:I think that is what I am looking for appreciate it
Down here in ms we suffer with ticks till late dec. sometimes
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: tal on August 15, 2019, 11:37:53 PM
 I puncture the foil seal on the main cap and make sure the other is peeled off course. A one ounce poor or less in a 34 ounce spray bottle, give or take is plenty. I've heard of a very few that said they had a rash or skin reaction. I have never had a problem even when rained on with treated clothes. The larger concentrate bottles come in different concentrates so each will have their own instructions. 10%  and around 13% is what I've seen commonly. I may learn differently but I don't worry about exact mix. I would go through bottles of Sawyer and mixing my own is cheaper and most effective.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: tal on August 15, 2019, 11:47:58 PM
 I just checked my current bottle and it says it's a 13.3% permethrin concentrate. It recommends 1 1/3 ounces in a quart spray bottle for a .5% permethrin spray. That is what most commercial brands are mixed at. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 15, 2019, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: tal on August 15, 2019, 11:37:53 PM
I puncture the foil seal on the main cap and make sure the other is peeled off course. A one ounce poor or less in a 34 ounce spray bottle, give or take is plenty. I've heard of a very few that said they had a rash or skin reaction. I have never had a problem even when rained on with treated clothes. The larger concentrate bottles come in different concentrates so each will have their own instructions. 10%  and around 13% is what I've seen commonly. I may learn differently but I don't worry about exact mix. I would go through bottles of Sawyer and mixing my own is cheaper and most effective.
I just replied to your message and like I said I misspoke above, I said a gallon and do not know why I said that, it was a quart spray bottle from the dollar store. I put I think 6 of the side thing in the best I could get it to fill and I had no problems with rashes and I have very sensitive skin, have used nothing but Tide laundry detergent and ivory soap for my whole life as to many other things make me itch so bad. I can use some hunters soaps and detergents but those are very expensive so I only use them for deer season.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Greg Massey on August 16, 2019, 12:54:51 AM
I have the already mixed and i have the water base , that you premix in spray bottle , i like having both , i keep one of the aerosol ones in my truck most all the time ... so i think it's a good idea to have both in my opinion ..it's a small price to pay regardless to keep those biting bloodsuckers off your body... :turkey2:
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: captpete on August 16, 2019, 07:05:37 AM
I use the stuff that Sir-diealot posted. The instructions says to mix 1 oz concentrate to 19 oz water. I mix mine touch heavier at 18 oz of water. As far as the smell goes, once it is dry, I can't smell it....deer & yotes might be able to. I only use it in the spring.

Also a word of caution...when wet it is poisonous cats.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: chadly on August 16, 2019, 09:02:14 AM
Not for deer hunting as mentioned it smells and it does not wash clean of the smell.  We use it through turkey and mushroom season and it flat works.  1oz to 16oz water for me.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: WW on August 16, 2019, 10:29:15 AM
I've never used it. It's supposed to last so many washes right? Is it safe to wash with kids clothes?
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: tal on August 16, 2019, 10:52:17 AM
 They advertise that your clothes will stay treated through 6 washing cycles. Safe to wash your kid's clothes? I would think so but I'll take a mulligan just to be safe. I've been told that the heat from a dryer makes it less effective so line dry out of the sun or touch-up after drying. My pre season routine I lay out several sets of hunting clothes, vest, cushions and wet them down. I then take my clothes and seal them in a trash liner until the next day. I then take them out and let them dry. Every thread in them gets soaked. Then after washings I touch up a little. Cuffs, a quick spray over the garments to be sure. As mentioned I also keep an aerosol can in the truck to always have handy. It works! I've been in the woods several times with other people and they would pick up ticks. Nothing on me. 
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: trkehunr93 on August 16, 2019, 10:57:48 AM
Sawyers works great.  Just be sure and spray outside on a day with little to no breeze and wear gloves.  I go as far as to turn the clothing items inside out and get that side as well especially around the cuff and waistband and the cuff, waist and neck of shirts.  Do your gloves, your hat, your socks, jacket(s), anything your going to use.  I get enough to make sure I have several jackets treated depending on the temp and rain.  I don't wash anything (except socks but I'll treat a couple of pairs) after its treated, if I sweat I hang it outside and let it air dry.  I back up with no less than 30% deet or picaridin also around cuffs and boots.  I go as far also to put permethrin on my vest, inside and out.  No ticks as long as I do this, might get cancer when I'm older but you do what you gotta do.  I don't spray my sons clothes with it but he'll get some form of spray with picaridin around his cuffs, etc.   
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: bbcoach on August 16, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
I use Martins 10% permethrin.  Mix 1 ounce with 19 ounces of water (.5%).  It smells when you initially spray on your clothes but not so much after drying.  With a deer sense of smell, I would say they will pick it up on your clothes.  I don't go in the spring woods without it.  Hang your clothes on the clothes line, spray everything down and let dry.  Great stuff for ticks!!!!  Plenty of Martin's on Ebay with free shipping.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: mtns2hunt on August 16, 2019, 03:50:34 PM
I would not hesitate to use this stuff during deer season. I hunt the wind anyway. Sawyers is working very well for me although I will mix my own for next Turkey season. Main thing is everyone knows about this stuff and hopefully uses it. I will be using it year around as I am in the fields almost daily not to mention my yard which is heavily infested. Probably because the deer like my tomato Plants.
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: Cut N Run on August 23, 2019, 09:26:59 AM
I use Duration concentrate that I get from Travelers Supply.  I use it to treat my hunting clothes and the clothes I travel to Asia with.  I contracted Falciparum Malaria in Quezon on Palawan, Philippines about 30 years ago and it dang near killed me.  That was as sick as I've ever been and I don't wish it on anyone.  Luckily, Plasmodium Falciparum is not recurring, so once I recovered, it didn't come back, and I've been good to go since. 

Duration is extremely effective, as I can't remember the last time I got a tick bite.  The best thing is that Permetherin is not just a repellent, it kills those aggravating little ticks, chiggers, and skeeters if they contact it too long.

Jim
Title: Re: Premetherin that I need
Post by: tal on August 23, 2019, 06:08:08 PM
 Using permethrin is a good thing to keep seeing, not often you can say this is something we all need to agree on. At the top of the general forum is five permanent posts. The first one is good to read on tips, mixing ratios, etc.