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remington 870 sm
3 inch hevi 6s
40yds lasered
217 in the 10
140 in the 20
ic 665
Heck yeah! Awsome.
:z-winnersmiley: wow ! very Nice
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I'd say that looks real good. :z-winnersmiley:
I would hunt with it for certain!!! :icon_thumright:
thanks guys...i really like it and man those hevi 6s hit hard
hey guys im not sticking with this ..i shot it a couple more times and the gaps in the 20 kept getting bigger and not very consistant...the pattern was dense but very oblonged not even at all...
It'll crush birds all day long
YUP
Nice!
Frankly, I think all this 20" talk is absurd. Is the objective to shrapnel the birds entire body with shot or shoot it in the face?
Furthermore, simple mathematics dictate that the more dense your pattern is within the 10", the less coverage you achieve in the outer 10" concentric ring.
I'd much prefer higher pellet counts in the 10" in the event that my shot string encounters brush/debris between myself and the turkey to sacrificing those numbers for diminishing returns by shooting a more open 20" pattern.
First, I perceive the posted pattern is just fine albeit a touch center dense for my interests. I'd hunt it with a fair measure of confidence though. It's vastly superior than anything we had available a decade ago.
Even so, the OP noted that subsequent patterns showed more profound inconsistency in the 20". I've found to be typical of combinations where percentage in the 10" is very high. I've also found that generally, although not always, POA/POI can vary more shot-to-shot from combinations that deliver more open patterns. In short, there's a fine line between a maximized pattern and a blown pattern.
This brings me why I prefer a moderately dense core with evenness in the 15" and 20". Shotguns aren't rifles. Even with the best gun/load/choke combinations, the POI can vary from POA by several inches at 40yd from shot-to-shot. A 10" wide pattern sounds a plenty at first pass until you consider that fact. If 20" is ratty and uneven, a vertical and horizontal POI shift of only 2" will put the POA on the fringes of the functional pattern.
Then, too, we're not shooting at the heart/lung region of a broadside deer either. A turkey's head/neck is much smaller and is usually moving. Turkey hunting often results in some of the most awkward field shooting conditions as well. That's why, frankly, I think an extreme push for maximizing 10" densities is absurd. I'd much rather give up a few pellets in the 10" to extend the functional width of the pattern to 15+" at 40yd.
I also think trying to brush/debris bust is absurd too. I won't shoot unless I have a clear LOS to the bird's head and neck. There's simply too much risk. Virtually all the misses or woundings I hear/read about involve a bird being further than thought or "having to shoot through stuff" to get him. To be sure, there's generally some brush/debris that has to be dealt with in most turkey hunting situations, but I've never felt the need to take shot where the head and neck were largely obscured.
Quote from: VaTuRkStOmPeR on May 13, 2012, 09:56:00 AM
Frankly, I think all this 20" talk is absurd. Is the objective to shrapnel the birds entire body with shot or shoot it in the face?
Furthermore, simple mathematics dictate that the more dense your pattern is within the 10", the less coverage you achieve in the outer 10" concentric ring.
I'd much prefer higher pellet counts in the 10" in the event that my shot string encounters brush/debris between myself and the turkey to sacrificing those numbers for diminishing returns by shooting a more open 20" pattern.
Yeppers!
I agree.
The 10" numbers are what a guy on here has said are the working bees or ants of the pattern.
It's a very good pattern...as posted but if it's not consistent with what you want there are other great options...Hevi 7's patterned the best in my set up, evenly spaced and plenty of pellets....665 Carlson Tube and WinX2 shotgun, I had to adjust my sight a bit but it's a bird crusher...agree with the others, worrying about patterns on paper and shooting through brush doesn't really make sense, too many variables
It was never noted whether the barrel was cleaned between shots. All of my shotguns have had the barrels polished, and I have been amazed at the deterioration of the patterns with subsequent shots in an uncleaned barrel esp. the number of flyers and the increase in the size of the pattern.
Heck yeah, that's a good pattern! :icon_thumright:
I think it just might work
try the magnum blends that will fix ur holes.
That's a fine hunting pattern, if perhaps a bit over choked. H13 7s would likely flow through that choke a bit better and improve the evenness in the 10-20" ring. The slightly more open PG .670 is known for nice, even patterns without quite as much center density as the IC.
wow. Very nice 10. Id be happy with that all day long.
Looks good to me.
should have no problems with that pattern