I had a $100 dollar Bass Pro gift card burning a hole in my pocket. So I decided to buy a turkey fan umbrella with it. Checking to see who might have experience using one and what your thoughts were on it and if you might have some tips.
Thanx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5RjEn7yU0I
Probably the best money you ever spent! I have 5 of the umbrellas myself I use a golf bag to tote around, little heavy but worth it.
Here's a pic of my favorite Turkey umbrella,no Gobbler is safe when I pull this bad boy out of the bag!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190327/344426cf3750e959bf67b276f0e5aaec.jpg)
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Quote from: LaLongbeard on March 26, 2019, 11:21:38 PM
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Funny fellas, but this is more of what I had in mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5RjEn7yU0I
My impression is that it would be great for killing turkeys, but maybe not so much for "hunting" them....
Quote from: Hatchet Jack on March 27, 2019, 10:26:30 PM
Funny fellas, but this is more of what I had in mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5RjEn7yU0I
They knew what you were talking about. Your method of hunting doesn't line up with how LA likes to hunt so he was mocking you. Don't take it personally though, he's rude to anyone when it comes to this sort of thing.
Hopefully somebody with a legitimate reason to respond to this other than bashing you will chime in to your thread. I doubt it though. Whenever fanning or decoys come up, there's far more people who use their time to make sure they let you know that "I ain't never used a stuffed chicken to hunt with and dang sure never will! *Insert paragraphs about how they like to hunt. You should hunt like me!"
Good luck this Spring
Quote from: Marc on March 28, 2019, 12:58:57 AM
My impression is that it would be great for killing turkeys, but maybe not so much for "hunting" them....
I have been hunting and killing turkeys with bow and gun since the early 1980's.Most times without the aid of decoys or ground blind. My impression is contrary to your's. My OP asked for people to respond who might have experience using this product.
Quote from: compton30 on March 28, 2019, 01:02:57 AM
Quote from: Hatchet Jack on March 27, 2019, 10:26:30 PM
Funny fellas, but this is more of what I had in mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5RjEn7yU0I
They knew what you were talking about. Your method of hunting doesn't line up with how LA likes to hunt so he was mocking you. Don't take it personally though, he's rude to anyone when it comes to this sort of thing.
Hopefully somebody with a legitimate reason to respond to this other than bashing you will chime in to your thread. I doubt it though. Whenever fanning or decoys come up, there's far more people who use their time to make sure they let you know that "I ain't never used a stuffed chicken to hunt with and dang sure never will! *Insert paragraphs about how they like to hunt. You should hunt like me!"
Good luck this Spring
Thank you for your response Compton. Yeah, I knew I was being mocked. That's fine, I got a chuckle out of it. I am new to this forum but not new to turkey hunting and breakin' balls. Whether they be my balls or or someone else's.
I have been turkey hunting going on 39 years this season. I have killed my fair share of birds without the aid of decoys or ground blinds. Always thought the turkey fan would be a fun alternative to hunting birds. Not exclusively, but as another alternative in a bag of tricks a hunter can use while he is in the field. Looks like fun to me, especially when you can go on the offensive and challenge a big tom out in an open field.
Good Luck to you this spring as well.
$100 for an umbrella seems like alot for me. If I wanted to try reaping id just use a real fan for free, Mike
Baby steps gentlemen. They just started accepting TSS as a shot choice.
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I personally take no position on the use of stuff like this. It certainly is clever and would appear to be an effective alternative to trying to push a strutter decoy along in front of you while slithering towards a gobbler. If someone likes the product and wants to use it, then go for it.
My concern, though, is about the impact on the resource. How many years will it take for our turkey populations to be impacted by significant numbers of hunters using the "reaping" technique to a degree that it is actually detrimental to the health of those populations? Perhaps the level of gobbler harvest will never reach the tipping point in terms of affecting turkey numbers. Perhaps the technique will become less and less effective over time as more and more gobblers "learn" from their experiences with reapers. I don't know.
What I am certain of is that a lot of mature gobblers that were not getting killed prior to the advent of reaping are now meeting their demise. Anybody that has hunted gobblers knows that, if they get to their third or fourth year and beyond, they are very difficult to kill by traditional calling methods. That fact pretty much ensures that there will always be a number of gobblers around to breed.
The long-term impacts of reaping, and the added mortality it has on mature gobbler numbers, has yet to be evaluated as far as I know. The question is what real impact will it have,...not only on the long-term health of the resource, but also the quality of the turkey hunting experience as more and more gobblers disappear from the landscape? ...And are we, as turkey hunters, willing to accept those risks due to the advent of technology that preys upon the weaknesses of our quarry?
I certainly don't know the answer,...but we are headed towards finding out....
It's not a slam dunk 100% ,works every time,even LA could do it guarantee.
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Quote from: fallhnt on March 28, 2019, 08:51:26 AM
It's not a slam dunk 100% ,works every time,even LA could do it guarantee.
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The OP wasn't offended by the joke but yet you were. It's like if there's not enough crying someone like you will step in to make sure there is lol.
Quote from: mspaci on March 28, 2019, 08:43:47 AM
$100 for an umbrella seems like alot for me. If I wanted to try reaping id just use a real fan for free, Mike
When I do fan, I use a real one.
Quote from: Hatchet Jack on March 28, 2019, 06:18:26 AM
I have been hunting and killing turkeys with bow and gun since the early 1980's.Most times without the aid of decoys or ground blind. My impression is contrary to your's. My OP asked for people to respond who might have experience using this product.
You brought up a controversial subject on a public forum, and asked for "thoughts." If my post came off as rude I apologize...
A couple years back, I was hunting some birds I could not call in... Just for fun, I tried a fan, and was able to walk right into the middle of them. Glad I left my gun behind, because admittedly, after working to kill these birds, I might have been tempted to harvest one...
For birds that eluded me most of the season, to be able to put a fan in front of myself, and walk right into them, seemed awful easy... Like going to a great golf course and dropping the ball in each hole by hand....
Granted this is situational... For many simply finding a bird to shoot, much less being able to call them in is far more challenging based on terrain or bird numbers. The property I hunt, killing a bird by fanning simply would not be fair in my own estimation...
Maybe I am wrong... But my limited experience with playing around with such, if I can drum up a bird and walk to him, I believe I could kill him using such methods, when in most cases, I cannot do so without such means.
Quote from: Marc on March 29, 2019, 12:29:09 AM
Quote from: Hatchet Jack on March 28, 2019, 06:18:26 AM
I have been hunting and killing turkeys with bow and gun since the early 1980's.Most times without the aid of decoys or ground blind. My impression is contrary to your's. My OP asked for people to respond who might have experience using this product.
You brought up a controversial subject on a public forum, and asked for "thoughts." If my post came off as rude I apologize...
A couple years back, I was hunting some birds I could not call in... Just for fun, I tried a fan, and was able to walk right into the middle of them. Glad I left my gun behind, because admittedly, after working to kill these birds, I might have been tempted to harvest one...
For birds that eluded me most of the season, to be able to put a fan in front of myself, and walk right into them, seemed awful easy... Like going to a great golf course and dropping the ball in each hole by hand....
Granted this is situational... For many simply finding a bird to shoot, much less being able to call them in is far more challenging based on terrain or bird numbers. The property I hunt, killing a bird by fanning simply would not be fair in my own estimation...
Maybe I am wrong... But my limited experience with playing around with such, if I can drum up a bird and walk to him, I believe I could kill him using such methods, when in most cases, I cannot do so without such means.
This is what I asked in the OP. .........." who might have experience using one and what your thoughts were on it and if you might have some tips.
Thanx"
I did not ask for just anyone's ''thoughts''. I specifically asked for the opinion of those who had experience using this particular item. Actually, until now, I had know idea using a fan was controversial. Like I said earlier. I am not new to turkey hunting but am new to this forum.
Just a thought........ I have seen paintings of Native Americans cloaked in bison and deer hides and heads in order to sneak up close to their quarry to get close shots with their bows. I wonder if anyone found their hunting practices to be controversial.
Just a thought........ I have seen paintings of Native Americans cloaked in bison and deer hides and heads in order to sneak up close to their quarry to get close shots with their bows. I wonder if anyone found their hunting practices to be controversial.
In my opinion there is a big difference between hunting for survival and hunting for fun. Native Americans also ran buffalo off of cliffs.
Quote from: Happy on March 29, 2019, 08:15:54 AM
Just a thought........ I have seen paintings of Native Americans cloaked in bison and deer hides and heads in order to sneak up close to their quarry to get close shots with their bows. I wonder if anyone found their hunting practices to be controversial.
In my opinion there is a big difference between hunting for survival and hunting for fun. Native Americans also ran buffalo off of cliffs.
Yes, and others slaughtered them by the thousands with rifles. So what is your point?
My point was that forms of decoying have been used for hunting for probably ever since man started hunting. They are still used by waterfowlers every year, but no one has a problem with that. Some deer hunters use decoys as well. What is a fishing fly but a fake lure with a hidden hook to catch a fish. Why is it OK to fool a turkey with phony sounds but not OK to fool his eyes with decoys?
Unless someone is going to hunt with only a spear in their hand with no aid of mimicking sounds or visible decoys, they should not criticize others ''legal'' preferences of hunting.
We all have different degrees of what we consider a challenge. We all have different ideas of what we consider fun. Hopefully there is room for everyone and no body gets their Cheerios pissed in for having a different hunting technique.
My point was exactly what I stated. Nothing more. I wouldn't call those that slaughtered buffalo hunters either. Not that I care about what others do so long as it's legal. We all have our opinions and my opinion applies to me and how I operate. Nothing more.
I have not personally used one but I have used a fan and it is very effective at times. Other times the turkeys run as soon as they see them. A friend of mine has one of these umbrellas and he said that he thought he had more negative responses with it because it was so big but it has worked for him sometimes.
Quote from: Hatchet Jack on March 29, 2019, 08:49:13 AM
Why is it OK to fool a turkey with phony sounds but not OK to fool his eyes with decoys?
The use of a caller requires a certain level of skill. Ned in the first reader can place a stick in the ground.
Quote from: silvestris on March 29, 2019, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Hatchet Jack on March 29, 2019, 08:49:13 AM
Why is it OK to fool a turkey with phony sounds but not OK to fool his eyes with decoys?
The use of a caller requires a certain level of skill. Ned in the first reader can place a stick in the ground.
I realize that. Most of us have acquired certain levels of calling skills over the years for calling in gobblers. It really isn't that hard. Once you get them within 50 yds most of our shotguns will take them out. Does not seem like a great challenge to me. But it sure is fun.We should make it were everyone has to use a recurve bow because anything else would be too easy or dare I say cheating. God forbid we have turkey hunters all over the U.S. placing sticks in the ground
We could balance everything out by only allowing reapers to kill gobblers by grabbing them when they attack their decoy or fan. Now that would add some excitement to the hunt,...and it would add a whole new skill set to turkey hunting! Plus, we all could practice "catch and release" and have a reaping tournament! ;D :toothy12: :toothy9: :newmascot:
...Oh yeah,...and I reserve the rights to the tour names "Reapmasters" and "Major League Reaping" so don't none of ya'll get any thoughts about stealing my idea!
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 29, 2019, 05:52:24 PM
We could balance everything out by only allowing reapers to kill gobblers by grabbing them when they attack their decoy or fan. Now that would add some excitement to the hunt,...and it would add a whole new skill set to turkey hunting! Plus, we all could practice "catch and release" and have a reaping tournament! ;D :toothy12: :toothy9: :newmascot:
I would like to see that. When I was a kid, the neighborhood farmer used to tell us boys that whoever could catch the rooster and hold it for 10seconds could keep a large bass from his pond if we caught it (he had some huge largemouths in it and everyone wanted to keep them). We caught him but got tore up in the process. I can only imagine what a full grown gobbler would do...lol
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Quote from: Happy on March 29, 2019, 08:15:54 AM
Just a thought........ I have seen paintings of Native Americans cloaked in bison and deer hides and heads in order to sneak up close to their quarry to get close shots with their bows. I wonder if anyone found their hunting practices to be controversial.
Why do you think we killed most of them and put the rest on small reservations? We didn't put up with fanning or buffalo decoys in the old days lol
Quote from: LaLongbeard on March 29, 2019, 07:28:17 PM
Quote from: Happy on March 29, 2019, 08:15:54 AM
Just a thought........ I have seen paintings of Native Americans cloaked in bison and deer hides and heads in order to sneak up close to their quarry to get close shots with their bows. I wonder if anyone found their hunting practices to be controversial.
Why do you think we killed most of them and put the rest on small reservations? We didn't put up with fanning or buffalo decoys in the old days lol
Very good, that theory may actually have some merit. I never thought of that. LOL
Guys .. that was uncalled for. Those were terrible times for the natives and should not be joked about in such a way.