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Title: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Bowguy on February 16, 2017, 02:38:50 AM
Reading life of Riley's post bout rain gear. I personally use a Cabelas suit, prob 15  plus years old. It's more rain resistant for short spells at this point so I've been looking for new gear myself. The frog toggs seemed so noisy. Is there dif models or do they quiet down once they break in
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Jroddc on February 16, 2017, 04:20:36 AM
I've had 3 different suits of them and they all sounded like I was wearing a bag of Doritos until the day they died
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: MK M GOBL on February 16, 2017, 06:07:06 AM
I wear Cabela's MTO50 Gore-Tex

MK M GOBL 
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Tombo on February 16, 2017, 08:52:09 AM
Frog toggs are very noisy, and briers literally shred them. But they are cheap.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Greg Massey on February 16, 2017, 10:49:01 AM
Agree, Frog toggs are better for seating in a boat fishing. Not so good for hunting because of the noise and easy to damage.. I have a set of Kool Dri and they are a little better, but noisy and easy to damage also..I have a pair of Field and Stream rain gear  that i like the best and i paid around 125 dollars for it on sale...
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: g8rvet on February 16, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
I have Frogg Toggs and mostly use them on the boat.  Tougher than they look, but not very tough. I tend to hunt fields when rainy and find the noise is not that bad as long as I move slow.  Very slow.  Think snail on qualudes. 

Rivers West is the best for the money (not Sitka best, but not Sitka priced either).  The only problem is that RW is warm.  There are gussets under the pits to let out heat, but unless it is low 60s, they are too warm for me.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Rzrbac on February 16, 2017, 03:51:58 PM
All of them I've seen are loud. I got a set I bought for out west. Used them once or twice. I suppose the noise isn't so bad if it's raining hard. I just couldn't walk around in them, they don't breathe well. I think they are meant for inactivity. I wouldn't dare try them in the turkey woods, the briars will eat them up. Out west it wasn't so thick but I wound up just taking them off and getting wet.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Bowguy on February 16, 2017, 04:43:15 PM
Sounds like they're a really bad choice. I'll just reseal my old Cabelas n forget about it for this year
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: BowBendr on February 16, 2017, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on February 16, 2017, 12:35:42 PMVery slow.  Think snail on qualudes. 

Don't know how many people caught that but it's the funniest thing I've read in a long time !!  :TooFunny:
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on February 16, 2017, 06:42:31 PM
I wear a Cabelas rain jacket and hurry along until I find a place to pitch my blind..that I keep in the truck for hunting with my boy or these special occasions ..Whoever wants to sit in the rain have at er,but I aint....
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Marc on February 16, 2017, 11:40:19 PM
I have used Frogg Toggs for years, basically as a disposable jacket...

They do keep you dry, but the last two I had broke the first time I used them (front zippers came off the jacket).  And, the material itself is fragile (I have ripped them taking them out of my hunting bag when stuffed in a bit tight).

This year I am going to a premium jacket...  We had a wet duck season this year, and I did not enjoy being miserable every time it rained.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: jims on February 17, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
You generally get what you pay for with raingear.  If you want the very best go with Sitka or Kuiu for breathability and relatively quiet with a lifetime guarantee.  The other raingear that I've used and abused in Alaska (where it pours) is Marmot Precip.  I've gotten precip pants and jackets for around $50 each on sale at Sierr@  Trading and elsewhere.  Not all gortex is created equally!  The gortex in Sitka, Kuiu, and Marmot are a step above the rest.  If I'm on a boat in Alaska or elsewhere for days in a downpour and won't be doing much hiking the best waterproof garments are Henley Hanson rubberized raingear.  They don't breath at all so if you are active or where it's warm and humid you may bake!

With that said, I never buy a rain jacket without pitzips.   This keeps me from getting wet from the inside out.  It's possible to open up the pitzip vents to allow air ventilation...especially when hiking or being active.  It also helps having rain pants that unzip on the lower leg so you can take them on/off quick without taking off your boots.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Marc on February 18, 2017, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: jims on February 17, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
You generally get what you pay for with raingear.  If you want the very best go with Sitka or Kuiu for breathability and relatively quiet with a lifetime guarantee.  The other raingear that I've used and abused in Alaska (where it pours) is Marmot Precip.  I've gotten precip pants and jackets for around $50 each on sale at Sierr@  Trading and elsewhere.  Not all gortex is created equally!  The gortex in Sitka, Kuiu, and Marmot are a step above the rest.  If I'm on a boat in Alaska or elsewhere for days in a downpour and won't be doing much hiking the best waterproof garments are Henley Hanson rubberized raingear.  They don't breath at all so if you are active or where it's warm and humid you may bake!

With that said, I never buy a rain jacket without pitzips.   This keeps me from getting wet from the inside out.  It's possible to open up the pitzip vents to allow air ventilation...especially when hiking or being active.  It also helps having rain pants that unzip on the lower leg so you can take them on/off quick without taking off your boots.

Sitka, Kuiu, and First Lite are the big three for quality that I know of...  I think River's West is worth looking into considering cost difference (River's West is about $200 compared to the above being between $300-$400) and reviews, as well as their warranty...

To my knowledge, I did not know that Kuiu, Sitka, or First Lite have life-time warranties...  River's West does though.

I had not heard of Marmot...  Being in the market, that is another one to look into, but it appears that they are not oriented towards hunting...  Being a duck hunter, admittedly the camouflage pattern is a factor, but overall, I want a jacket that will last and keep me above all else dry and comfortable for some years to come.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: jims on February 19, 2017, 12:13:05 PM
Here's by far the best rain jacket for the money!  I've been using Marmot Precip for years on Alaska and Western US trips.  The jacket is only $60 and if you can find a 20 or 30% coupon code it's only $40...which is a steal!!!!  You can likely find the pants for around the same price.  I have several Sitka jackets and the Marmot precip is almost as good!

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/marmot-precip-jacket-waterproof-for-men~p~116un/?filterString=s~marmot-precip%2F
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: j.goebel on February 19, 2017, 08:09:58 PM
I have never had any issues with my Frog Toggs suit. Usually when it rains everything is noisy out in the woods or still dripping. Light weight to pack and keep in the turkey vest. For the money I think you get your value out of it and they are fairly breathable compared to other rain suits. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion and its your choice.

Thanks,
Justin
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Turkeytider on May 14, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Wash them in cold water on delicate cycle 2 or 3 times. AIR DRY ( no heat!! ) cycle in dryer for 15 or so minutes with 3 or 4 tennis balls or a couple of tennis shoes to beat them up. Absolutely silent? Nope. MUCH quieter, to the point that they are OK for the money for hunting? Absolutely, IMHO. Helps to wear them around the house some , too.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Bowguy on May 14, 2018, 07:09:37 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on May 14, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Wash them in cold water on delicate cycle 2 or 3 times. AIR DRY ( no heat!! ) cycle in dryer for 15 or so minutes with 3 or 4 tennis balls or a couple of tennis shoes to beat them up. Absolutely silent? Nope. MUCH quieter, to the point that they are OK for the money for hunting? Absolutely, IMHO. Helps to wear them around the house some , too.
Thanks for the advice but my theory has always been I ain't fixing what the manufacturer didn't get right. If I had to do all that I'd rather get wet
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Turkeytider on May 14, 2018, 09:06:34 PM
Understood completely.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Marc on May 14, 2018, 09:24:24 PM
As a previous Frogg Toggs user (primarily for waterfowl hunting), I purchased and used a Sitka this past season...  The level of superiority is not even describable...

The zippers on the Frogg Toggs are very fragile, and the jacket itself will tear by looking at it wrong...  They did keep me relatively dry, but I was bone dry after wearing my Sitka in a pretty good rain...  I went back to my shack to change out of the wet clothes, when I realized it was not necessary....
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: Turkeytider on May 15, 2018, 04:05:37 PM
No question that the difference in quality is " indescribable " . So are the relative price points. You get what you pay for. Anyone expecting Sitka quality from Frogg Toggs....well.... I certainly don`t.
Title: Re: Question bout frog toggs
Post by: waysouth on March 08, 2019, 10:25:28 AM
Look at SKRE gear, cheaper than Sitka or Kuiu and it's fantastic.  I started putting together pieces from there last year.  I recently wore my nebo rain gear in a torrential downpour at a party during Mardi Gras.  I guarantee I was the only dry one there.