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Title: Knight and Hale
Post by: Greg Massey on June 21, 2019, 05:49:28 PM
Got email from the office of Knight and Hale game calls and they are no longer producing game calls ... they said they were going in a different direction ... What direction that is , i do not know ....sad ....
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: FL-Boss on June 21, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Glad I just bought a backup... to my backup RNG turkey vest! 3 should last me a while. Can't imagine life without their vest...hopefully they will still make those. Seems to sell really good..
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: guesswho on June 21, 2019, 07:21:53 PM
Maybe they're going to focus more on fooling a turkeys eyes instead of it's ears. 
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Bay1985 on June 21, 2019, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: guesswho on June 21, 2019, 07:21:53 PM
Maybe they're going to focus more on fooling a turkeys eyes instead if it's ears.
I hope not a Knight and Hale version of the Hecs suit lol
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Greg Massey on June 21, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
No need to poke fun at 2 icons in the hunting industry. These guys were great hunters and loved the outdoor , that's more than a lot of us can say .. especially those who think they're funny all the time on the forum...
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Spitten and drummen on June 21, 2019, 09:17:18 PM
Met them both. Pretty nice guys. I wish them well.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: crenshawco on June 21, 2019, 09:23:16 PM
They've been out of business for a year or two now. They made their vests and pouches and snake gaiters under their name, but I'm pretty sure that's going away too. Another example of a brand ruined by a deep pocket corporate bunch
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: guesswho on June 21, 2019, 09:51:14 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 21, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
No need to poke fun at 2 icons in the hunting industry
Not sure who your talking about poking fun at David Hale and Harold Knight.  But if it's me you read more into my comment than is there.   

Weren't they bought out 3 or 4 years ago?   My comment is in reference to the mother company.   Thought maybe the new owners have decided to target the camo clothing, blinds and decoy market instead of game calls.   
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Bay1985 on June 21, 2019, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on June 21, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
No need to poke fun at 2 icons in the hunting industry. These guys were great hunters and loved the outdoor , that's more than a lot of us can say .. especially those who think they're funny all the time on the forum...
I think he was talking to me. As mentioned they sold the company years ago and have had little to do with the operation same as Primos sold to a bigger company and then it takes a different turn in quality.
I've met them both myself and wasn't poking fun at them. Some people are just way WAY to sensitive.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: guesswho on June 21, 2019, 10:25:15 PM
I'm not a big video fan, but I was and still am a fan of the old K&H videos.  Really enjoyed their videos when it was David, Harold, Walter and  Chuck.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: tal on June 21, 2019, 10:53:17 PM
 Pradco is the company.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Greg Massey on June 21, 2019, 11:07:39 PM
Regardless these guys deserve better form us ... positive comments instead, negative comment's .. they have volunteered countless hours to teach and educate hunters . Do you realize David was a pig farmer and Harold was a barber. They teamed up together in 1972 in a basement and started Knight and Hale game calls ... Great guys in my opinion.. Knight and Hale grunt call was one of the first and just about everyone had one , lot of deer killed with that grunt call....
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: mtns2hunt on June 21, 2019, 11:30:54 PM
Really liked some of Knight and Hales calls. Sorry to hear they are gone but everything changes - no use sweating it. New faces showing up all the time.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: tal on June 21, 2019, 11:33:25 PM
 If I may... It's my neck of the woods and being a small town it's no great claim to say I know them, most here do. I cannot count the number of calls I've been given from Harold and David. They will be the first to give thanks to God and have unashamedly said so in their talks, and even in their game call packaging. Greg is correct in remembering the deer grunt call changed them from being a basement operation to a small company. Hard work, untold hours, and talent was behind continued growth. I've broke bread with them often after hunting between the rivers. Their humor and warmth make them a delight to just spend time around. I know the last couple of years they have spent a lot of time  hunting with family, their values are something to be copied. Harold took a tube goose call to national attention. I don't remember the exact year but around 1972 Harold won the world goose calling championship. The first legal hunt  between the rivers in something like 35 years was held around 1960. Out of 377 hunters (if memory serves) about a dozen turkeys was killed. Harold got a bird. His turkey knowledge runs deep. David is a hunter's hunter. I wish them nothing but the best.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Greg Massey on June 21, 2019, 11:42:57 PM
Quote from: tal on June 21, 2019, 11:33:25 PM
If I may... It's my neck of the woods and being a small town it's no great claim to say I know them, most here do. I cannot count the number of calls I've been given from Harold and David. They will be the first to give thanks to God and have unashamedly said so in their talks, and even in their game call packaging. Greg is correct in remembering the deer grunt call changed them from being a basement operation to a small company. Hard work, untold hours, and talent was behind continued growth. I've broke bread with them often after hunting between the rivers. Their humor and warmth make them a delight to just spend time around. I know the last couple of years they have spent a lot of time  hunting with family, their values are something to be copied. Harold took a tube goose call to national attention. I don't remember the exact year but around 1972 Harold won the world goose calling championship. The first legal hunt  between the rivers in something like 35 years was held around 1960. Out of 377 hunters (if memory serves) about a dozen turkeys was killed. Harold got a bird. His turkey knowledge runs deep. David is a hunter's hunter. I wish them nothing but the best.
Thank you for sharing this with us ....
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: joey46 on June 22, 2019, 03:25:52 AM
Yes - wish them good luck also.  I'm repeating but lived in the LBL area for a decade, visited there for 20 years prior to that.  Bought my first tube call at their Cadiz barbershop.  Both K and H should be around 70.  Probably just time to retire.  They'll be missed.  My local Bass Pro had a few of their calls still on the shelf.  Might grab one or two for old times sake.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Turkeytider on June 22, 2019, 06:07:38 AM
Under the K&H brand, they make a gun holding system called the Universal Hands Free. Consists of a quality knee mount for the gun along with a strap on shoulder mount for the gun butt. Truly "hands free". Used it this past season. Really nice.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Sir-diealot on June 22, 2019, 01:49:45 PM
I have been trying to find 2 of their Knight & Hale KHT0013 Long Pot things to add to my vest for a while.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: larry9988 on June 22, 2019, 04:39:39 PM
Harold Knight can run a mouth call very well too. Two nice gentleman.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: tal on June 22, 2019, 06:59:05 PM
 Harold Knight sounds JUST LIKE
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: tal on June 22, 2019, 07:07:15 PM
 A tidbit about David. He killed his first three turkeys and did NOT OWN a call.... Woodsmanship.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: strutnrut on June 22, 2019, 09:55:42 PM
Quote from: tal on June 21, 2019, 11:33:25 PM
If I may... It's my neck of the woods and being a small town it's no great claim to say I know them, most here do. I cannot count the number of calls I've been given from Harold and David. They will be the first to give thanks to God and have unashamedly said so in their talks, and even in their game call packaging. Greg is correct in remembering the deer grunt call changed them from being a basement operation to a small company. Hard work, untold hours, and talent was behind continued growth. I've broke bread with them often after hunting between the rivers. Their humor and warmth make them a delight to just spend time around. I know the last couple of years they have spent a lot of time  hunting with family, their values are something to be copied. Harold took a tube goose call to national attention. I don't remember the exact year but around 1972 Harold won the world goose calling championship. The first legal hunt  between the rivers in something like 35 years was held around 1960. Out of 377 hunters (if memory serves) about a dozen turkeys was killed. Harold got a bird. His turkey knowledge runs deep. David is a hunter's hunter. I wish them nothing but the best.
Well said a couple of country boys that are Topnotch.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: quavers59 on June 23, 2019, 09:57:31 AM
I really enjoyed Harold Knight's and David Hale's Book-- Ultimate Turkey Hunting. Their Videos were very good as well.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Yoder409 on June 23, 2019, 12:53:11 PM
Good old boys, BOTH.

Had the pleasure of sittin' a spell and talking to them............   Talked more about farming than we did turkeys or deer or calls.  Just two very genuine and genuinely GOOD fellows.

Wish them BOTH all the very best in whatever !!!
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: wkyhunter on June 26, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
I'm just up the road from Cadiz. Have known Harold and David for close to 45 years. Both are fine men and true Believers!
As has been said before they sold the business years ago ( I think 1996) to Pradco. I wondered what was up when there wasn't a booth at the NWTF convention in February.
Last I heard David has health issues, but Harold was still going strong.
I wish both all the best as they move forward.

Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: Ctrize on June 26, 2019, 12:15:39 PM
I too read their book. One of the best how to books out there.on spring hunting.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: joey46 on June 27, 2019, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: Ctrize on June 26, 2019, 12:15:39 PM
I too read their book. One of the best how to books out there.on spring hunting.

Yes - I "loaned it out".  It was an autographed copy.  EEEK!  Anyway I did like many of the tips for hunting public land.  The tip to spend some time driving around and noticing where the "local boys" parked was key for some of my early hunts on LBL.  Is this the book where they said they don't hunt States that allow rifles for spring hunts?  That obviously went by the wayside since several of their old videos had them shooting Osceolas down here in FL.  FL still allows rifles on private land but finally outlawed them on public.  Good book.  Good guys.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 01:55:35 PM
Met Harold 25+ years ago at a trade show. We spoke nearly an hour about his favorite tactics for fooling public land birds during the inevitable henned-up gobbling lulls.

What a fine gentleman.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: dah on July 12, 2019, 10:38:44 PM
I have over 40 slate calls , saw this thread and to my surprise 15 of them are Knight&Hale . Some are display ( the ol yellers ) but also carry others. I have high end and low end custom and production calls, killed more Gobblers with an old ol yeller than anything else. Still watch for and buy a ol yeller , don't know why , don't know why I keep buying calls like I do . This years birds were killed with two new Sinclair slates . Would like to shake Harold and David's hand , otherwise I will continue using and buying their calls. I thank them both and wish them well.
Title: Re: Knight and Hale
Post by: tracker#1 on July 14, 2019, 09:00:14 AM
Met Harold at a trade show years ago, awesome person. He autographed a pair of "fighting purrs". I thought the "purrs" where a gimic until a friend of mine called 3 mature birds in that dam near ran us over. I then bought a pair and killed many birds with them. After he signed them, they stayed at home,  replacing  them with Quaker boy pair.....purrs kill.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190714/13f947153c0dbe04f04b05ca4892b856.jpg)

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