This was my first gun, shot hevi shot 3" out of a XxFull Comp-n-Choke when I started hunting with it years ago. Now I would like to bring it back out given how light it is and how well it shot. I have a stock pile of tss #9 so I'm going to pattern it when weather breaks. What chokes did yours like? My experience with mossy pumps has been that they like tight chokes. This comp n choke is .565
What do yalls like?
I really don't care for anything tighter than 562 especially when it comes to TSS. Most likely blown patterns are the result with anything tighter than that.
Please let us know when you get a chance to check out the patterns.
Have a good one, Bo
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I have that same gun in a youth super bantam and was able to get a full size stock to work with it last year. Love it as it weighs nothing and is a joy to shoot. I am shooting a .570 and getting pretty solid patterns. The .565 you own may be just fine. Try it before dropping money on a new tube.
I've got a 20 gauge Super Bantam that I'm going to us this year, I'm making the switch from 12 to 20 gauge. I just ordered an Indian Creek .555 from Midway and some Verdict TSS #9's. It might be a week or so before I get to pattern it but I'll let you know how it does. Also, from your user name I assume you're in Kentucky? If you happen to be anywhere near East Tennessee, I'll let you try the choke in your gun if there's a range between us we can meet up at.
Tried an IC .555, IC .562, and a Sumtoy .562 in my Mossberg 500. This gun prefered the .555 with straight #8s, straight #8.5s and straight #9s.
IC .555 in mine
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Gonna put one together myself so interested in what is working in their short barrels? I have used a Carlson .575 in several short barreled Remingtons and get really good hunting patterns but will probably use a FF3 on this gun and would like something a little tighter. Still on fence as I am waiting for trigger spring kit and FF3 mount to arrive.
Keep us posted on what you try. Is yours the 20" barrel?
Ridge Rooster
Both my 500 youth shoot well with .550 truglo ssx and a .560 pinhoti, longbeard 6's, Grand slam 5's,hevi shot 6's, Ive shot tss #7's and they do well too but I get very good patterns from the other shells so I have no reason for tss from these guns, sorry this is only picture I can find,I am sure I have one or 2 maybe of the other shells but they shoot as good or better. These are awesome little guns,they also are like a little stick of dynamite when you pull the trigger, It's like the little baby bam bam version of the Mossberg 535 3.5".
I use a .568 Carlson's longbeard xr in my son's bantam using 8.5 TSS. Only choke I tried but it throws a nice hunting pattern
Quote from: kytrkyhntr on February 27, 2023, 06:38:28 PM
This was my first gun, shot hevi shot 3" out of a XxFull Comp-n-Choke when I started hunting with it years ago. Now I would like to bring it back out given how light it is and how well it shot. I have a stock pile of tss #9 so I'm going to pattern it when weather breaks. What chokes did yours like? My experience with mossy pumps has been that they like tight chokes. This comp n choke is .565
What do yalls like?
A lot of good chokes mentioned by the fellows on here and I appreciate their feedback for you. That said, I mention once again that if you have not already pulled the trigger, try that Compnchoke .565 before you go and spend 70-100 more dollars on a new choke. I think that there is a better than 60-70% chance that current .565 choke that you have in hand will do all that you need it to do. TSS has so many pellets and is not near as picky as lead about what you feed it through.
Anyone tried the Carlson TSS Choke in their Bantams? They are .555 constriction.
Ridge Rooster
Got my Bantam put together yesterday evening. I installed one of the "MONSTRUM" Burris FF3 bases. Will give a review of base to anyone interested because it is a good bit cheaper option than a "Scalarworks" but sits as low and incorporates three screws to hold base to receiver. The base is ridged and FF3 fits it great. The supplied screws suck and I highly recommend going with some decent screws as I believe the base is built in China and supplied screws suck. I have several different size screws so with just slight modification to the front screw of the three, I used my TORX head screws to secure base to receiver. The screws I used were 8-40 3/8" Torx head screws. The front one I had to grind about a 1/16" off to allow the action to work without drag. The supplied Allen head screws I did not trust as I usually torque the base screws at 20 inch/lbs. I tried to use the supplied sight to base screws designated for the FF3 and stripped one of the allen heads at 10 Inch/lbs, I usually go to 15. This is where there might be a problem matching screws as the supplied M3X 0.5mm best I can tell and I did not have any that size. Luckily they provide screws for the Vortex Venom red dot in package and they were Torx head so I just used them.
Waiting on MCARBO trigger springs and Camo Wrap from Mossy Oak and she will be ready for the woods. Will shoot it this weekend with my handloads to see how it is going to do. Went ahead and bought a Indian Creek .555 for it also to try as I have had excellent results in other 20's with the IC and my handloads. BUT hope the Carlson .555 does good to keep barrel as short and handy as possible.
Ridge Rooster
Shot Bantam for first time today with my Handloads and it did around 240 in 10" with another 200 in 20". Use to seeing a little over 300 in my other 20"s with the Indian Creek ,555 so I am expecting it to do that or near when ever I get my IC in.
Ridge Rooster
Quote from: Ridge Rooster on March 10, 2023, 02:59:00 PM
Shot Bantam for first time today with my Handloads and it did around 240 in 10" with another 200 in 20". Use to seeing a little over 300 in my other 20"s with the Indian Creek ,555 so I am expecting it to do that or near when ever I get my IC in.
Ridge Rooster
Thanks for the feedback - Beyond what it is posting in the ten on your other guns, can you recall what are you averaging in your outer 20" with those .555's?
Around 200 plus as I recall. There are 580 pellets give or take a few in the 1 5/8oz load I believe. I should be getting my Indian Creek in today and will give it a try and let you know. I also got a Truglo Headbanger that I will give a try today.
Ridge Rooster
Headbanger sucked!
Ridge Rooster
If you come across a.550 truglo ssx, pick it up, this choke gets really good reviews from these guns and It does well in my guns. I have not heard much good about the other truglo chokes.
Quote from: The Heartbreak Kid....... on March 11, 2023, 04:04:34 PM
If you come across a.550 truglo ssx, pick it up, this choke gets really good reviews from these guns and It does well in my guns. I have not heard much good about the other truglo chokes.
This truglo .550 patterned great in my bantam with TSS 9 & #8, and with the older Federal HVWT #7's,
it did not have good patterns with TSS #7 or Fed HVWT #6
the Mossberg xxfull choke had good patterns with #7tss and the #6 fed HVWT.
Well I got Indian Creek .555, which I thought would be the cure as it has performed in 5 or 6 other 20's with my handload but that was not the case. I fired one of my proven handloads and it might have made 200 in the 10" at 40. I am use to seeing 300 plus with other short barreled guns and the IC .555.
Any advice? Might try a more open choke as all I have tried that was a Carlson .555, Headbanger .565 and a indian Creek .555
Ridge Rooster
Trade that ic for a 665-670
Interesting, seems like the Mossy 500 youth barrel likes the .555 generally, but that is the key, generally. My core was tighter with the .555 than the .562, and the IC .562 and Sumtoy .562 were near identical. All great patterns, but the .555 was just hotter which I prefer running a red dot.
I'd run a Sumtoy .562 next if that were my gun, or at least be the plan when I call William at Sumtoy to order it. Ask him about your experience, he may have an alternative other than .562 given the countless barrels he's worked on over the years.
Gonna give it one more try this weekend and see. The IC .555 has worked great in many other short barreled guns but this is the first Mossberg I have tried one in.
Ridge Rooster
Quote from: Ridge Rooster on March 16, 2023, 12:16:02 PM
Gonna give it one more try this weekend and see. The IC .555 has worked great in many other short barreled guns but this is the first Mossberg I have tried one in.
Ridge Rooster
for a mossberg ive found either back the load diwn to 13/8 if you wanna stick with 555 or bump up to 565-570 with 15/8
Was offered that same advice by a friend of mine who has a good bit more experience loading than me so I am gonna try that exact advice. The 1 3?8oz load should help with an over choked situation.
Thanks
Ridge Rooster
Tried several other loads yesterday and finally broke the 300 mark at 40 with a tweak to one of my handloads and using the Indian Creek .555. Pattern looked really even with very few pellets outside the 20" so I am finally happy with results and I loaded up 10 to hunt and check zero for the next season or two depending on how much this gun makes it in the rotation.
Ridge Rooster
I feel like and patterns showed that I was over-choked. With loads that have performed great in all my other 20's and several other 20's I load ammo for I knew what I should be getting and my patterns were scattering shot all over the 30 X 30 inch backing paper I was using. I tried a Carlson .555, Headbanger .565, Indian Creek .555 and a Avian X Crusher .565 I believe is what constriction it is, and all showed signs of being over-choked. That was all the chokes I had access to but have a HS Strut Undertaker on order as I have seen it perform in several 20's with my handload and they are cheap. I decided that I would try the Indian Creek again yesterday with advice from others on reducing shot amount but patterns were bad. Over the last few years loading ammo for various guns I have ran into a couple that acted similar to how this particular youth gun was acting so I decided to try a little tweak to my handload to see what would happen and found instant success. The OS card under wad on top of powder has worked in 410, 16 and now this Bantam. Unsure why this works but I have confirmed it over and over with several finicky guns and it does.
Now I did not go back and try any other choke than the Indian Creek so the others might perform also but I am satisfied with patterns so I am done with this gun and ready to hunt. I may throw some of my handloads without the OS card under wad through the Undertaker when it gets here just to confirm what I believe was and over-choked situation and see how it does.
Ridge Rooster