Ok guys like a lot of you on here I purchased a yildiz last year and got it set up for turkey season this year. I killed a turkey with it in Texas but earlier that morning when I loaded a shell up when I closed it back the gun went off. After further looking I noticed that when I was carrying the gun to the blind I had it folded in half for easy carry. I must've snapped the trigger and the firing pin was pushed out. So when I closed it that snapped the shell and it went off. When I got back home I tried it three more times and each time it went off. I even tried it with the safety on and off. So just curious if y'all have had this happen. I am emailing them right now. Y'all might try yours and see if it happens too.
Seems like I had read that somewhere before ?
You might put it the general forum to get some responses.
Quote from: mozart_hunter on April 30, 2019, 08:20:22 AM
Ok guys like a lot of you on here I purchased a yildiz last year and got it set up for turkey season this year. I killed a turkey with it in Texas but earlier that morning when I loaded a shell up when I closed it back the gun went off. After further looking I noticed that when I was carrying the gun to the blind I had it folded in half for easy carry. I must've snapped the trigger and the firing pin was pushed out. So when I closed it that snapped the shell and it went off. When I got back home I tried it three more times and each time it went off. I even tried it with the safety on and off. So just curious if y'all have had this happen. I am emailing them right now. Y'all might try yours and see if it happens too.
You ever get a response from Yildiz?
I'm interested in what they say. I have the same gun all though mines a little older. I've never experienced what you're talking about but I also don't ever fold the gun in half like that and it should would be good to know if that's a common occurrence.
Quote from: FLGobstopper on May 08, 2019, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: mozart_hunter on April 30, 2019, 08:20:22 AM
Ok guys like a lot of you on here I purchased a yildiz last year and got it set up for turkey season this year. I killed a turkey with it in Texas but earlier that morning when I loaded a shell up when I closed it back the gun went off. After further looking I noticed that when I was carrying the gun to the blind I had it folded in half for easy carry. I must've snapped the trigger and the firing pin was pushed out. So when I closed it that snapped the shell and it went off. When I got back home I tried it three more times and each time it went off. I even tried it with the safety on and off. So just curious if y'all have had this happen. I am emailing them right now. Y'all might try yours and see if it happens too.
They said they would mail me a new firing pin but I don't see how that will fix the problem.
You ever get a response from Yildiz?
I'm interested in what they say. I have the same gun all though mines a little older. I've never experienced what you're talking about but I also don't ever fold the gun in half like that and it should would be good to know if that's a common occurrence.
I keep my ear to the ground about the folder and this is the first time I've heard one do this. I started using mine 7 seasons ago. My first thought (guess) was perhaps a too aggressively done trigger job, and an overworked sear, but if that wasn't done... I wonder how a diagnosis was made regarding a faulty pin. Was the hammer down against the firing pin or cocked when the AD's occurred? That could be easily observed with the stock off (and an empty chamber). This would rule out a faulty trigger and narrow it down to the pin. Gil
Just giving everyone an update. My gun still goes off every time the firing pin is snapped while the gun is broke open. As soon as I close the gun with a new shell in the gun it goes off every time. I contacted them and they will not answer my emails. Going to throw the gun away I guess can't have something that dangerous. Especially since I was gonna use it when my daughter got old enough. Terrible gun.
Quote from: mozart_hunter on August 19, 2019, 09:35:34 PM
Just giving everyone an update. My gun still goes off every time the firing pin is snapped while the gun is broke open. As soon as I close the gun with a new shell in the gun it goes off every time. I contacted them and they will not answer my emails. Going to throw the gun away I guess can't have something that dangerous. Especially since I was gonna use it when my daughter got old enough. Terrible gun.
I agree the gun is dangerous , but why not take it to gun smith first before throwing it away...?
Quote from: Greg Massey on August 19, 2019, 10:50:43 PM
Quote from: mozart_hunter on August 19, 2019, 09:35:34 PM
Just giving everyone an update. My gun still goes off every time the firing pin is snapped while the gun is broke open. As soon as I close the gun with a new shell in the gun it goes off every time. I contacted them and they will not answer my emails. Going to throw the gun away I guess can't have something that dangerous. Especially since I was gonna use it when my daughter got old enough. Terrible gun.
I agree the gun is dangerous , but why not take it to gun smith first before throwing it away...?
Because there is nothing they can fix it says it in the manual that you should not trigger the gun while it is empty here is a link to the manual.
http://www.yildizshotgun.com/tr/images/single.pdf
I'll give you a dollar for it. The point of contact for the repair service for Yildiz is the Academy gun counter.
This is a little concerning. Especially on a gun that would most likely be used by a young shooter. I have an o/u 20. Hope it doesn't do this....
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Kicks too hard for a young shooter. Bout like an/06.
I guess that's what I get for buying a $100 gun. Won't make that mistake again. I'm not even mad about the money (I also sent it to Sumtoy and got $150 of work done to it as well) it's that they won't answer my complaint on a very serious faulty gun problem.
The manual seems to indicate you should not dry fire the gun. The which is different than stating you should expect it to discharge on closing. Did William work on the trigger? Or did Academy say the choke work voided the warranty?
The attachment shows out says thesame thing in the over under manual. Just means use a snap cap.
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It's at dipper. I will have to test it. I always keep my gun with safety on.
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When you pull the arm/finger to open it that should cock it. I played with one when this came up before. The one we had even if you fire with barrel open when you shut it that would reset the firing pin. You take the stock off you can see everything in it. You can play with it and see what is going on maybe. Sad thing that is one of the best guns for the money as in material it is build out of (hardest barrel we have threaded). Now that said you not the only one that has had problem getting a hold of them.
Try it few times with out a shell see if you can make it do it. Then I would like to know if it does it with all shells. I know of one that would fire any off the shelf dove load but would fire 1 out of 10 hand loads.
One thing you can do also it get a few hulls if you have someone around that loads and just put primer in them to see if it is something with just the shell being in.
Quote from: SumToy on August 21, 2019, 09:25:02 AM
When you pull the arm/finger to open it that should cock it. I played with one when this came up before. The one we had even if you fire with barrel open when you shut it that would reset the firing pin. You take the stock off you can see everything in it. You can play with it and see what is going on maybe. Sad thing that is one of the best guns for the money as in material it is build out of (hardest barrel we have threaded). Now that said you not the only one that has had problem getting a hold of them.
Try it few times with out a shell see if you can make it do it. Then I would like to know if it does it with all shells. I know of one that would fire any off the shelf dove load but would fire 1 out of 10 hand loads.
One thing you can do also it get a few hulls if you have someone around that loads and just put primer in them to see if it is something with just the shell being in.
Have you tried this with the O/U models? Or is just the break open 410?
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just the single shot. I have a O/U and shot it few hundred times playing with sporting clay and it be fine.
Agree , never had a problem with O/U either , shot it a bunch ....
When mine closes back it doesn't reset the firing pin if you dry fired it while it was open. Also i have tried multiple types of shells. The first time it went off it was with an Apex load and I've used winchesters and federal 6 and 8 shot too. They all go off.
Quote from: mozart_hunter on August 21, 2019, 04:36:00 PM
When mine closes back it doesn't reset the firing pin if you dry fired it while it was open. Also i have tried multiple types of shells. The first time it went off it was with an Apex load and I've used winchesters and federal 6 and 8 shot too. They all go off.
The gun is designed to cock on open and close. If the barrel block isn't pushing the cocking lever far enough to cock it when you close the gun, there's something wrong with that particular gun. The design is sound. Academy would send it to Briley for repair. Whether they'll warranty a modified gun or not I don't know. They might argue since the barrel was removed for threading something might have got out of alignment.
Quote from: howl on August 22, 2019, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: mozart_hunter on August 21, 2019, 04:36:00 PM
When mine closes back it doesn't reset the firing pin if you dry fired it while it was open. Also i have tried multiple types of shells. The first time it went off it was with an Apex load and I've used winchesters and federal 6 and 8 shot too. They all go off.
The gun is designed to cock on open and close. If the barrel block isn't pushing the cocking lever far enough to cock it when you close the gun, there's something wrong with that particular gun. The design is sound. Academy would send it to Briley for repair. Whether they'll warranty a modified gun or not I don't know. They might argue since the barrel was removed for threading something might have got out of alignment.
I did a video on this. I dont think I can load it to the page. I may can link it to facebook page. If you brake it open you can fire it then put the leaver/finger on bottom that will rest the gun into fire once more. It will do that without the barrel on it. I would take the stock off and blow it out to make sure nothing had got in it.