Would like to see some 20ga lead patterns. I don't shoot past 30 yards so lead will work good for me. Here is a 30 yard pattern of Longbeard #5 out of my New England single shot 20. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/49490c02a54014b06e53772b7ec02f09.jpg)
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Rob Roberts .570
I use to shoot hevi 13 but I haven't needed to shoot at a bird past 30 yards so I think the this might be my new combo. However the long beard #6s look really good out of this choke also out to 38 yards
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Just shoot some pheasant loads at that range! A 7.5 shot dove load would probably do the trick!
get your hands on some Longbeard #6's you won't be dissappointed
Get a box of the Hevi-Shot Triple Beard. It's a great lead load for a 20ga, it patterns great and has the added benefit of 5,6,7 shot.
Here's an old one. MB 500/26" barrel Trulock
Fed Mag Shock FC 3" 1-5/16 #6s 1185 fps @32
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Winchester longbeard #6's at 40 yards
LB #6s at lasered 40 yds.
You lead guys should try the fed grand slam #5 (the new ones from 2018). If you're happy with a 35 yd gun these things are the ticket. On sale at midwayusa right now for 10.79 box of 10.
I shoot them out of a trulock .565 and final strut .570 (both rem 870s, 21 inch and 26 inch barrels) and I'm confident these will take a bird down even out to 38 yards if I misjudge distance. I have a thread with extensive review but here's a couple pics
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I shoot a bead so POI can be off a little as I shoot off hand real world conditions. All these were between 35 -40 degrees F
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Very nice D' do you have a 20 yard pattern with them Feds?
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on March 02, 2019, 01:45:22 PM
Very nice D' do you have a 20 yard pattern with them Feds?
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POI was off but I've fixed that with truglo sights
I think it has some room for error at 20.
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Quote from: DBell on March 02, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on March 02, 2019, 01:45:22 PM
Very nice D' do you have a 20 yard pattern with them Feds?
I think it has some room for error at 20.
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That's what I wanted to see! My personal opinion the LB's art too tight at 20. I'll hunt with that. :icon_thumright:
I have a couple of boxes of LB#5s, I'll have to find the cardboard. Have some LB#6s in route but those feds look promising!
Quote from: tree-rat sniper on March 16, 2019, 02:25:14 PM
I have a couple of boxes of LB#5s, I'll have to find the cardboard. Have some LB#6s in route but those feds look promising!
The LB#6 give me 110-140 in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards with .565 and .570.
I'd like to see how the #5 does for you. Share an update once you pattern them
The federal #5 grand slams give me around 75-100 at 35 & 100-130 at 30, pretty even, and are more forgiving in close. I've shot about 15 rounds and it's pretty consistent. This was in cold to mild temps also (low 30s - 50 F). I have had a few low counts on some shots, for example, 65 in the 10 at 35 yards and 81 in the 10 at 30 yards, but they were nice even patterns and if I look at the 14 inch circle instead of the 10, the numbers are more than enough.
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Rainy, mid 40's
Weatherby Sa-08
HS Undertaker .575 choke
Winchester Longbeard XR 1 1/4 oz 5s
Laser verified, 40yds. Shot off a bipod dead on poi. Vent rib.
89 in the 10 :OGturkeyhead:
Ozark
Quote from: Ozark on March 20, 2019, 11:57:03 AM
Rainy, mid 40's
Weatherby Sa-08
HS Undertaker .575 choke
Winchester Longbeard XR 1 1/4 oz 5s
Laser verified, 40yds. Shot off a bipod dead on poi. Vent rib.
89 in the 10 :OGturkeyhead:
Ozark
Did you take anymore shots than this one with the #5? Just wondering because I've been testing the #6 and they fluctuate from 100-140 in the 10 at 40 yd. Wondering if you were getting any fluctuation with the #5.
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Quote from: Ozark on March 20, 2019, 11:57:03 AM
Rainy, mid 40's
Weatherby Sa-08
HS Undertaker .575 choke
Winchester Longbeard XR 1 1/4 oz 5s
Laser verified, 40yds. Shot off a bipod dead on poi. Vent rib.
89 in the 10 :OGturkeyhead:
Ozark
Did you take anymore shots than this one with the #5? Just wondering because I've been testing the #6 and they fluctuate from 100-140 in the 10 at 40 yd. Wondering if you were getting any fluctuation with the #5.
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I was mostly patterning 12ga when I shot this pattern. This is the only pic I can find, I'm not sure if I shot more. I will try to get out this weekend and pattern, if I do I will post it. Thanks for the heads up.
Ozark
DBell, I found another pattern with this combination.
Weatherby Sa-08
HS Undertaker .575 choke
Winchester Longbeard XR 1 1/4 oz 5s
Laser verified, 40yds
95 in the 10
Ozark
As far as Long Beard consistency, I've put the following on paper:
20g Weatherby SA-08
Indian Creek 0.555 choke
40 yards / 10" circle
#5's - 4 shots: 103, 129, 126, 123
#6's - 6 shots: 132, 157, 133, 142, 145, 134
Did it seem like your patterns where better with a clean bore or slightly fouled
Quote from: BHMTitan on March 20, 2019, 04:53:44 PM
As far as Long Beard consistency, I've put the following on paper:
20g Weatherby SA-08
Indian Creek 0.555 choke
40 yards / 10" circle
#5's - 5 shots: 103, 129, 126, 123
#6's - 6 shots: 132, 157, 133, 142, 145, 134
Nice Titan. Is that the setup you hunt?
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Quote from: turkeykiller41 on March 21, 2019, 12:31:37 AM
Did it seem like your patterns where better with a clean bore or slightly fouled
I ran a bore snake through the barrel prior to each shooting session and that was it. The LB #6 have not yet failed to break 100 hits in 10" at 40 with barrel conditions from clean to 10 or so shots worth of fouling.
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Quote from: turkeykiller41 on March 21, 2019, 12:31:37 AM
Did it seem like your patterns where better with a clean bore or slightly fouled
All of those test shots were at least 10 shots after being squeaky clean, but well snaked after all the shots. Below are links to pics of the patterns.
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,74270
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,73946
Quote from: DBell on March 21, 2019, 08:13:12 AMNice Titan. Is that the setup you hunt?
For the most part I do. If a youth is using the gun, or later in the season after green up (when most my shots are 30y or less), I sometimes shoot the Federal MagShok #6.
I like the Fed Grand Slam results you've posted. A few years ago I tried the original Fed flight control wad shell, was getting an avg of 80 pellets at 40y, w/ the IC 0.555.
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Quote from: DBell on March 21, 2019, 08:13:12 AMNice Titan. Is that the setup you hunt?
For the most part I do. If a youth is using the gun, or later in the season after green up (when most my shots are 30y or less), I sometimes shoot the Federal MagShok #6.
I like the Fed Grand Slam results you've posted. A few years ago I tried the original Fed flight control wad shell, was getting an avg of 80 pellets at 40y, w/ the IC 0.555.
Was this with #6? If I could get 80 #5 at 40 consistently that would be the ticket
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Quote from: DBell on March 22, 2019, 04:47:08 AM
Was this with #6? If I could get 80 #5 at 40 consistently that would be the ticket
Yes, #6. The item number is FE-PFC258, but I think it was replaced by the Grand Slams w/ the Flex wad.
Quote from: BHMTitan on March 20, 2019, 04:53:44 PM
As far as Long Beard consistency, I've put the following on paper:
20g Weatherby SA-08
Indian Creek 0.555 choke
40 yards / 10" circle
#5's - 4 shots: 103, 129, 126, 123
#6's - 6 shots: 132, 157, 133, 142, 145, 134
That is amazingly good. I'm still looking for LB 6's locally. Everyone seems to only carry the 5's.
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Hit high on the 35 yard shot (2nd pic) but both shots broke 100 in the 10" at the most dense part of the pattern (116 for 30 yard and 101 for 35 yard).
This is fed grand slam #5.
I'd like to pattern this shell in #6, if they would make it.
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Longbeard XR 1 1/4 oz. #6 shot out of a Stoeger 3020 26" bbl with an Indian Creek .555 at a laser verified 40 yds. 157 in the 10"
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SA-08 20 ga Undertaker XT ported .575, 40Yds.
96 in the ten @ point of aim. 101 adjusted for highest density. Laser verified yardage. Vent rib off tripod.
Ozark
Quote from: Zeke6685 on March 28, 2019, 11:17:28 PM
Longbeard XR 1 1/4 oz. #6 shot out of a Stoeger 3020 26" bbl with an Indian Creek .555 at a laser verified 40 yds. 157 in the 10"
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That's one tight pattern of #6. Real nice. You run an optic on that rig?
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Quote from: Ozark on March 29, 2019, 09:27:54 PM
SA-08 20 ga Undertaker XT ported .575, 40Yds.
96 in the ten @ point of aim. 101 adjusted for highest density. Laser verified yardage. Vent rib off tripod.
Ozark
That's the one I'd be hunting with. It seems LB is the only way to get a good 40 yard pattern with lead. 30-35 seems to be where the pattern begins dropping off w/ regular buffered loads but is still plenty acceptable. 35-40 is where they fall apart rather quickly.
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Quote from: DBell on March 29, 2019, 09:39:32 PM
Quote from: Ozark on March 29, 2019, 09:27:54 PM
SA-08 20 ga Undertaker XT ported .575, 40Yds.
96 in the ten @ point of aim. 101 adjusted for highest density. Laser verified yardage. Vent rib off tripod.
Ozark
That's the one I'd be hunting with. It seems LB is the only way to get a good 40 yard pattern with lead. 30-35 seems to be where the pattern begins dropping off w/ regular buffered loads but is still plenty acceptable. 35-40 is where they fall apart rather quickly.
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That's my experience as well. I never thought I would see lead patterns from a 20 like LB can produce. If it was any tighter it would not have much margin for error. I think we are at the limits of lead with LB.
Ozark
Same pattern as above. With hits marked. A recount showed 97 hits in the 10" at point of aim.
Quote from: DBell on March 29, 2019, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: Zeke6685 on March 28, 2019, 11:17:28 PM
Longbeard XR 1 1/4 oz. #6 shot out of a Stoeger 3020 26" bbl with an Indian Creek .555 at a laser verified 40 yds. 157 in the 10"
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That's one tight pattern of #6. Real nice. You run an optic on that rig?
Yes, I run a bushnell trophy 1.75-4x. I'll be shooting tss primarily through this gun but tried the longbeards, just to see how they did. I'd have no issues hunting with these for backups.
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