I was transferring all my stuff out of my old vest and into my new Glenda Green satchel. I found two of my pots were cracked. Halloran slate and Halloran glass. They both have some age on them. The glass was my "go to" call. Weird that only the Hallorans were cracked.
If they cracked and were together or close together i dont think its weird. Maybe something got sat on them when the vest was off. Did you fall and hit something on that part of your vest??
I'd try to trace back after you last used them of how that vest was taken care of..
Were they left in the vest in a non-temperature controlled garage?
Quote from: HookedonHooks on January 19, 2020, 09:58:35 AM
Were they left in the vest in a non-temperature controlled garage?
Yea. This is what I thought
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Good point. Not suggesting anything wrong with the quality of the calls. They have served me well. We did get after a bird late last season and did a lot of crawling. Could have put pressure on them then.
Quote from: wchadw on January 19, 2020, 10:05:00 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on January 19, 2020, 09:58:35 AM
Were they left in the vest in a non-temperature controlled garage?
Yea. This is what I thought
I've had them crack in my house even, and it was likely because the furnace was pulling literally all of the humidity out of the air as it'd be running almost all night non-stop when it's 0 degrees. Was suggested by a call maker to keep a humidifier in my call room, and fingers crossed, still no problems this winter and it's been running pretty hard lately.
Post a picture of the cracks.... Wood movement cracks almost always look the exact same, no matter the maker, they always split in the same spot.
Impact cracks will always be different and usually unique to each other.
The calls were in a climate controlled basement.
Both are cracked straight across the playing surface.
lay them calling surface down on hard flat surface see if they warped may rock a bit or can see gap in one spot each side of wood rim may have got wet at some point seeing the slate cracked
I know halloran usually makes laminate pots, but are they solid wood by any chance?
I've yet to have a laminate pot call surface crack (not saying it can't happen), but definitely have had solid woods warp and crack the playing surface.
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Both are very early calls from him. Both solid wood.
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here is a laminated pot that the glass cracked. it was inside the house for a long time
I had the 20th anniversary pot from David and sat in the cabinet for 6 months. I went to pull it out one day and the surface was cracked. I sent it back to him over 6 months ago and still haven't heard back from him to determine what caused it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200119/6120e369f895d688cadc2e3f711f8742.jpg)
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Quote from: Browning87 on January 19, 2020, 11:04:30 AM
I had the 20th anniversary pot from David and sat in the cabinet for 6 months. I went to pull it out one day and the surface was cracked. I sent it back to him over 6 months ago and still haven't heard back from him to determine what caused it
Vertically laminated pots always crack this way. See how Schaffer above yours is the same? The wood is moving in the laminations and pulling the wood apart. With these, as Mike mentioned, if you set them on their surface you should be able to see where the wood has moved and cupped slightly.
Solid wood pots will almost always split across the pot horizontally in the bottom of upper third.
Whatever the cause the maker should be able to put a new surface in the call unless the pot warped real bad. Timeline dependant on the maker
I broke a jimmy Shaffer pot once, not from wood movement, I fell on it. Not only did he still fix it for me he sent a loaner call 2 days later so I still had a mad hen to make it through season before he could get to the fix on mine the we swapped back.
That is what you call above and beyond service.
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It sucks, but can happen to any glass/crystal and sometimes slate surface in a wood pot regardless of maker.
The builder needs to at minimum turn the pots 2 times the first removing 80 percent of all material then letting it cup over time the finish turned and again checked for cupping and corrected if necessary. This removes the majority of cracks but still may occur.
Quote from: mmclain on January 19, 2020, 11:02:01 PM
The builder needs to at minimum turn the pots 2 times the first removing 80 percent of all material then letting it cup over time the finish turned and again checked for cupping and corrected if necessary. This removes the majority of cracks but still may occur.
How long should they sit between turnings?
Depends on the climate. Behind a wood stove a week. Oily woods months. Best to just bring them inside the house climate for a few weeks. You can measure across the face grain and end grain directions with a dial caliper and it will show the amount of shrinking/cupping. If possible just rough a bunch in and let it sit as long as possible years even.
The slate still sounds amazing.
Good to know, never have given this much thought. Is this more likely to happen with certain types of wood ?
I hate to see or hear this .. haven't had one do this yet and i hope i don't ... thanks for sharing .. wood and moisture , don't do well together that's for sure..