I recently got into the TSS I was going to give apex a try but they didn't have any 20 gauge available at the time so I went with a local company close to me Nitro shell company I personally don't know anyone that shoots them what is the good the bad and the ugly from others experience I was informed they have some horror stories and now I might be regretting my choice
Quote from: DBuck90 on February 26, 2021, 09:09:10 PM
I recently got into the TSS I was going to give apex a try but they didn't have any 20 gauge available at the time so I went with a local company close to me Nitro shell company I personally don't know anyone that shoots them what is the good the bad and the ugly from others experience I was informed they have some horror stories and now I might be regretting my choice
This is my first year shooting TSS and after talking to some people that I trust and reading some reviews I went with Apex. It seems that a little while back Nitro was having some issues with what they were putting in their shells (pixie dust), some overpressure issues and customer service. They may have corrected these problems but you know how sometimes it takes some time to have your reputation restored especially when things are put on the internet about them. Maybe someone else on here that is currently using Nitro or has in the past can give you a better answer. Hopefully these issues were addressed and your shells shoot excellent. Plus competition between companies is good for the consumer.
Not sure if this matters to you or not but being I am military Apex offers a 15% discount on every purchase I make. They also give this discount to military veterans, retirees, first responders and first responder retirees.
Best of luck this year and stu safe.
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Quote from: rakkin6 on February 27, 2021, 06:08:46 AM
Quote from: DBuck90 on February 26, 2021, 09:09:10 PM
I recently got into the TSS I was going to give apex a try but they didn't have any 20 gauge available at the time so I went with a local company close to me Nitro shell company I personally don't know anyone that shoots them what is the good the bad and the ugly from others experience I was informed they have some horror stories and now I might be regretting my choice
This is my first year shooting TSS and after talking to some people that I trust and reading some reviews I went with Apex. It seems that a little while back Nitro was having some issues with what they were putting in their shells (pixie dust), some overpressure issues and customer service. They may have corrected these problems but you know how sometimes it takes some time to have your reputation restored especially when things are put on the internet about them. Maybe someone else on here that is currently using Nitro or has in the past can give you a better answer. Hopefully these issues were addressed and your shells shoot excellent. Plus competition between companies is good for the consumer.
Not sure if this matters to you or not but being I am military Apex offers a 15% discount on every purchase I make. They also give this discount to military veterans, retirees, first responders and first responder retirees.
Best of luck this year and stu safe.
Yeah I hear that I went with them mostly because it's a local business and I try to support local companies and I know they hand load each shell like apex does and so far my customer service has been great they called me and told me my shells was ready and I could pick them up anytime also I got a discount for cash so I thought that was awesome I hope they do preform well I will be patterning them in 2 weeks so fingers crossed no issues makes me kinds worried tho
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Every single person I know has had pressure issues. One blew the chokes out of barrels twice . Couple had shells need to be forced w a stick out of the barrel, etc etc . Good luck
Quote from: Bowguy on February 27, 2021, 08:34:32 AM
Every single person I know has had pressure issues. One blew the chokes out of barrels twice . Couple had shells need to be forced w a stick out of the barrel, etc etc . Good luck
well crap then I am sitting on $100 bucks and 13 shells I would feel bad calling them and telling them I don't want them now
I have not paid or picked up the shells yet I wouldn't feel right after ordering them and then not buying them what do y'all suggest give them a call and just ask some questions about my concerns see if they are still have high pressure issues if they have resolved previous problems
If you didn't pay what would be big deal changing your mind? He may have corrected pressure issues. Who knows. If you were my brother I know what I'd say
Quote from: DBuck90 on February 27, 2021, 09:06:23 AM
I have not paid or picked up the shells yet I wouldn't feel right after ordering them and then not buying them what do y'all suggest give them a call and just ask some questions about my concerns see if they are still have high pressure issues if they have resolved previous problems
It's your money and gun. I say if you are not comfortable stay away.
Here you go these are in stock. Get them ASAP.
https://www.presleysoutdoors.com/apex-ammunition-turkey-tss-20ga-3-1-5-8oz-5-box/
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Nitro seems to have some quality control issues as well as poor customer service. I have seen it first had with a couple guys I know that purchased loads.
Buffer leaking out, crimps coming un done and inconsistent performance. Looked at them for years and never bought any, glad I roll my own now!
Quote from: rakkin6 on February 27, 2021, 09:19:36 AM
Quote from: DBuck90 on February 27, 2021, 09:06:23 AM
I have not paid or picked up the shells yet I wouldn't feel right after ordering them and then not buying them what do y'all suggest give them a call and just ask some questions about my concerns see if they are still have high pressure issues if they have resolved previous problems
It's your money and gun. I say if you are not comfortable stay away.
Here you go these are in stock. Get them ASAP. I know man but I just don't do business that way I ordered them I know they hand loaded them shells for me and even though I know someone else will buy them I just don't like giving my word and then going back on a deal I pride myself on my word
https://www.presleysoutdoors.com/apex-ammunition-turkey-tss-20ga-3-1-5-8oz-5-box/
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Quote from: DBuck90 on February 27, 2021, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: rakkin6 on February 27, 2021, 09:19:36 AM
Quote from: DBuck90 on February 27, 2021, 09:06:23 AM
I have not paid or picked up the shells yet I wouldn't feel right after ordering them and then not buying them what do y'all suggest give them a call and just ask some questions about my concerns see if they are still have high pressure issues if they have resolved previous problems
It's your money and gun. I say if you are not comfortable stay away.
Here you go these are in stock. Get them ASAP. I know man but I just don't do business that way I ordered them I know they hand loaded them shells for me and even though I know someone else will buy them I just don't like giving my word and then going back on a deal I pride myself on my word
https://www.presleysoutdoors.com/apex-ammunition-turkey-tss-20ga-3-1-5-8oz-5-box/
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I can respect that, best of luck to you this season brother.
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Couple years ago, probably 2018, I bought some Fed TSS #9 to try in my Ithaca Turkeyslayer 20ga. Got the best pattern I had ever gotten from that gun to that point - 200 in 10" @ 40. But they were too hot in pressure and locked the action and I had to use the action release to cycle the action. I fired one shell to pattern and check the zero when it locked the action. I wrongly attributed the lock to the action needing cleaning and lubricating which I did. Next shell locked the action and cost me a bird so I shelved them and went back to the Fed HWT 15g/cc #7 shells.
Since the Fed HWT #7s are now unattianium, I had to revisit the TSS shells again. A buddy traded me some Nitros 7.5&9 blend and #9 shell to try. I also bought some Browning #7 & #9 blends (straight #9 were out of stock). Patterned the Nitros and they cycle fine in my M37 and patterned great. The Browning TSS pattern and cycle good too.
All that to say I don't know if I had a bad batch of the Fed TSS or what but the Nitros aren't as hot in pressure, if that's an issue now, as those Fed TSS shells were with the same gun and choke. If there was any issue with Nitros at some point looks like they have corrected it so personally I'll use the Nitros without worry.
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Quote from: gaboy on February 28, 2021, 05:55:24 AM
Couple years ago, probably 2018, I bought some Fed TSS #9 to try in my Ithaca Turkeyslayer 20ga. Got the best pattern I had ever gotten from that gun to that point - 200 in 10" @ 40. But they were too hot in pressure and locked the action and I had to use the action release to cycle the action. I fired one shell to pattern and check the zero when it locked the action. I wrongly attributed the lock to the action needing cleaning and lubricating which I did. Next shell locked the action and cost me a bird so I shelved them and went back to the Fed HWT 15g/cc #7 shells.
Since the Fed HWT #7s are now unattianium, I had to revisit the TSS shells again. A buddy traded me some Nitros 7.5&9 blend and #9 shell to try. I also bought some Browning #7 & #9 blends (straight #9 were out of stock). Patterned the Nitros and they cycle fine in my M37 and patterned great. The Browning TSS pattern and cycle good too.
All that to say I don't know if I had a bad batch of the Fed TSS or what but the Nitros aren't as hot in pressure, if that's an issue now, as those Fed TSS shells were with the same gun and choke. If there was any issue with Nitros at some point looks like they have corrected it so personally I'll use the Nitros without worry.
Thanks for the comment that is reassuring I think I am going to stand behind my word and pay them for their time and good customer service the provided and find out what they do I will also be calling them Monday asking about the issues I have seen from others comments and see if they are honest about it and yes they have resolved that you could do 100 things correct and mess up one time and people never forget
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Understand, it's not a one time event. It was about every time for at least the two guys that had the shells sticking in barrel, they stopped using em right quick, the fellow that blew the chokes out had it happen twice as well. Maybe that's how you view one but to me that's sorta at the time a consistent problem. Who paid for barrel on the gun either of the times? Not the fellow making the shells imo they guy was insane for trying it again. Best of luck
Quote from: Bowguy on March 02, 2021, 03:31:24 AM
Understand, it's not a one time event. It was about every time for at least the two guys that had the shells sticking in barrel, they stopped using em right quick, the fellow that blew the chokes out had it happen twice as well. Maybe that's how you view one but to me that's sorta at the time a consistent problem. Who paid for barrel on the gun either of the times? Not the fellow making the shells imo they guy was insane for trying it again. Best of luck
When did this occur? Last week with shells they just received from Nitro or several years ago? Did it occur over several years and several orders? What were the conditions at the time? 90 degree plus and the shells just out of the truck after sitting on the dash in the sun? What choke constriction? Was the issues with Hevishot or TSS shells?
Not disputing it happened as I recall seeing it in a forum several years ago when TSS was starting to become popular among reloaders. But these are relevant questions. They very well may have had issues, every manufacturer does, that they have since corrected at least with the shells I have.
I will also give my .02 on the Nitro Shells. Shot them from my 3" and 3.5" guns. I believe they were way over pressure. The 3.5" shells the brass would separate from the plastic after being fired in a Newer Winchester Sx-2, same results in my 11-87 super mag. Never had the hull separation in the 3" shells, but the recoil was punishing even from a gas operated semi. Still have 1/2 box of the 3.5 shells and will never shoot them again.
Never had a problem with Nitro shells and I have shot their loads in both hevi and tss, in 20 and 10 gauge. I do believe they are over pressure and a friend that reloads sent one off confirming that. At one time, they were the only game in town when it came to high performance shot shells you could purchase. Now, there are many other players in the game and more arriving daily. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot Nitro, but it is easier for me to get similar performance out of others now.
Quote from: Bowguy on March 02, 2021, 03:31:24 AM
Understand, it's not a one time event. It was about every time for at least the two guys that had the shells sticking in barrel, they stopped using em right quick, the fellow that blew the chokes out had it happen twice as well. Maybe that's how you view one but to me that's sorta at the time a consistent problem. Who paid for barrel on the gun either of the times? Not the fellow making the shells imo they guy was insane for trying it again. Best of luck
I understood that and I am not disputing it sucks to hear anyone had an issue that caused a major problem to their gun because of bad ammo and that's the other thing you don't know it's hot till you shoot it
I've been running the 1 5/8 #9 for a few years and haven't had any issues out of an 870 20 gauge and a M2. Running a Jeb's in one and a Sumtoy in the other and awesome patterns.