https://youtu.be/htsEZa3iLgA
It's on youtube and he's a turkey hunter so it must be true. I'm scratching cluck and purr off my hunting call list. Now I know when I see a hen clucking and purring while feeding she is upset about what she's having to eat. And when she's clucking and purring around her poults she's upset at them for acting up. And the list goes on and on.
In my opinion, his advice is right on the money. However, the key here is the circumstances. Yes, turkeys will cluck and purr almost inaudibly when together and content, but I believe I can honestly say that in fifty years of turkey hunting, the only time I have heard hens cluck and purr in a hunting/calling situation was when they were concerned about something.
It is one thing to have a group of turkeys wander by in a contented, feeding mode doing those very soft clucks and purrs. It is quite another to have a hen approaching your calling and suddenly start doing the loud, very audible clucks and purrs that indicate she has become concerned about something.
However, the use of the cluck and purr as a response call to when a hen starts doing it will, at times, be of value. Responding to a hen that has started clucking and purring when closing in to your set-up can sometimes settle them down just enough to keep them hanging around those extra few seconds to get that gobbler than is out of range just behind her to come those last few important steps.
I do believe that using a cluck and purr as a primary call when trying to locate a gobbler is generally a poor strategy. At the same time, I am sure there have been hunters that have done so and ended up calling in a bird. Turkeys running around the woods randomly clucking and purring in an effort to attract other turkeys is not the natural order of things, however.
I have heard them cluck and purr when asserting dominance over other hens. Have also heard them cluck and purr while feeding. I typically hear just loud clucks or putts if you will when alarmed. Have called several hens in with aggressive clucks and purrs in conjunction with cutting. It will turn submissive hens away but seems to work well on the aggressive, dominate hens.
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 20, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
In my opinion, his advice is right on the money. However, the key here is the circumstances. Yes, turkeys will cluck and purr almost inaudibly when together and content, but I believe I can honestly say that in fifty years of turkey hunting, the only time I have heard hens cluck and purr in a hunting/calling situation was when they were concerned about something.
It is one thing to have a group of turkeys wander by in a contented, feeding mode doing those very soft clucks and purrs. It is quite another to have a hen approaching your calling and suddenly start doing the loud, very audible clucks and purrs that indicate she has become concerned about something.
However, the use of the cluck and purr as a response call to when a hen starts doing it will, at times, be of value. Responding to a hen that has started clucking and purring when closing in to your set-up can sometimes settle them down just enough to keep them hanging around those extra few seconds to get that gobbler than is out of range just behind her to come those last few important steps.
I do believe that using a cluck and purr as a primary call when trying to locate a gobbler is generally a poor strategy. At the same time, I am sure there have been hunters that have done so and ended up calling in a bird. Turkeys running around the woods randomly clucking and purring in an effort to attract other turkeys is not the natural order of things, however.
Very well stated advice. :z-winnersmiley:
I believe context and tone can have some bearing on the decision making process in utilizing these calls... I do believe that the video gave some great advice and some food for thought.
Clucks and purrs are comparable to the word "hey." It is all about tone and context.
Kids arguing in the other room and parents say "hey!"
Good lookin' gal at a bar and you approach her and say "heey..."
Guy coming at you with a knife "HEY!"
Buddy passing out beers at a BB-Q and you get skipped over "Hey!"
The last couple years I have been the unfortunate witness of groups of multiple hens with single toms... I have heard an array of clucks and purrs... I often hear loud single clucks as a means of a hen trying to attract a tom... I have heard loud single clucks from alarmed birds as well. Generally when calling myself, I accompany those loud single "popping" clucks with a bit of yelping.
The hens in a group seem to purr constantly though. Generally quite purring and clucking as they feed, seemingly uninterested and unaware of the tom in the group desperately trying to initiate the intimate affections he is seeking. If I am going to sit in a well-traveled area for extended periods of time, I will not hesitate to use these quiet and non-intimidating clucks and purrs to let a nearby tom know that there is a hen present.
I have also seen purring immediately proceed the coupling event... I have heard that urgent purring from a hen, followed by the tom coming over to her and vie his affections on her... So I would assume that there is a place for some excited purring in the midst of urgent yelping and cutting.
However, the premise of the video remains true... A good percentage of the time that we hear aggressive purring or clucking, the bird is alarmed or agitated. I for one will think a bit more carefully before using these calls... And thinking back, such calling has seemed to pull some birds in, but it has also likely prevented forward progression of more than a few birds that were coming in.
The problem w you tube is anyone can post a video. Look up something you know about n you'll see what I mean. Not always best place to get info
Quote from: Bowguy on July 20, 2016, 06:03:32 PM
The problem w you tube is anyone can post a video. Look up something you know about n you'll see what I mean. Not always best place to get info
This is true. ...And it is the less-knowledgeable that often end up being confused by contradictory information. Fortunately, as it relates to turkey hunting, there are some folks on here that can evaluate these videos and set everybody straight. Now, if we could just figure out who those folks are, we will be in good shape!... :toothy12: :newmascot: :TooFunny:
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 20, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
Fortunately, as it relates to turkey hunting, there are some folks on here that can evaluate these videos and set everybody straight. Now, if we could just figure out who those folks are, we will be in good shape!... :toothy12: :newmascot: :TooFunny:
If I say it, you can rest assured that there's about a 35 to 40% chance that it's at least partly accurate. ;D
Sound as much like a turkey hen as you can and be realistic with your calls. Don't overthink things like the guy in the video. The guy in the video relies heavily on visual aids which can make up for his lack of understanding of turkey language. Don't take calling advice from people like this.
If it's called cluck and purr, why is he purr and clucking? What do hens normally do, cluck and then purr, or purr and then cluck? This turkey talk gets complicated.
Is there an English to turkey app?
That video may be as big a bunch of crap as I have ever seen. Contented hen turkeys cluck and purr almost constantly when in the presence of other hens and the gobbler recognizes that everything is alright over there. The "contest" cluck and purr is designed to attract the judge and rarely mimics the sound of a hen in the wild, especially in volume and frequently in delivery. I have no reservations in clucking and purring often, but the human will not hear my cluck and purr farther than 25 yards, while the gobbler will hear it at 200 yards and know he is likely to be safe if he responds. Most purring I hear on a slate caller sounds like a cricket and I don't know what most purring I hear from a mouth caller sounds like, but it is seldom that of a contented hen.
Quote from: dirt road ninja on July 20, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Is there an English to turkey app?
Pull up the translater app, it's right after spanish
That youtube clip is comical. Beware of where you get your "education." :blob10:
Quote from: silvestris on July 20, 2016, 11:12:50 PM
That video may be as big a bunch of crap as I have ever seen. Contented hen turkeys cluck and purr almost constantly when in the presence of other hens and the gobbler recognizes that everything is alright over there. The "contest" cluck and purr is designed to attract the judge and rarely mimics the sound of a hen in the wild, especially in volume and frequently in delivery. I have no reservations in clucking and purring often, but the human will not hear my cluck and purr farther than 25 yards, while the gobbler will hear it at 200 yards and know he is likely to be safe if he responds. Most purring I hear on a slate caller sounds like a cricket and I don't know what most purring I hear from a mouth caller sounds like, but it is seldom that of a contented hen.
Wow! If they can hear your purrs at 200 that a man can't at 25, then they must be able to hear my cackles and cutting at a few miles! Oh wait, I forgot that they are super birds! I'm waiting for the new kryptonite loads to come out. Just get out there and hunt guys! They can't reason. They don't care that the purring is to loud, the yelp to often, the tree call is from the ground, the hen hasn't moved in an hour. They are birds. Don't overthink things. You'll just beat yourselves.
The cluck and purr is the name for a sound turkeys make when alarmed or aggregated. I have seen it labeled such by Lovett Williams, and has been adopted by calling contests as a legitimate call for contestants to imitate. Over the years it has become a call you hear listed with others such as assembly yelps and I assume people just think of giving a few clucks and a couple of purrs means cluck and purr. Get lovetts cd
Lovvets CDs are great, in em he shows aggressive type calls n content explaining even a hard putt which should be an alarm sound if inserted into the proper context won't be seen as anything but a cluck. Gonna be all in the way calls are presented.
I couldn't disagree with the guy in the video more. Funny thing is he even states it's all about context and then believes there's only one context for the cluck and purr. As was stated, the turkey's mood dictates the degree to which she delivers a call, whether it be yelps, clucks or cluck and purrs.
Sure there's aggressive purrs and curiosity purrs and they can have a place in your hunting arsenal, but the killer call for me is the contentment (feeding) purrs. I can't even guess how many birds I've pulled in that last 20 yards with soft contentment purrs and for sure this spring, every single bird I killed or saw killed, was brought to the gun with soft purrs. They wanted nothing else.
Boy, anybody reading this thread that does not know much about this topic would be totally confused at this point! I guess we all look at things through a lens of our own personal experiences relating to our turkey interactions.
Some of us say the video has merit,...and some say it is hogwash. Both points of view have some validity. The fact is that the spectrum of turkey vocabulary that encompasses the "cluck" and "purr" and the combinations of both is not a black and white topic. Furthermore, anybody that would attempt to clarify their many and varied meanings and uses in a video that is less than two minutes long is just asking for trouble.
Suffice it to say that the cluck and purr are sounds that turkeys make in a variety of situations, and which have a variety of meanings to other turkeys when communicated back and forth. A hunter can use the cluck and purr to call turkeys in,...and just as assuredly, that same hunter can use a variation of that same call in the wrong situation and send the turkeys they are trying to call scurrying off towards the next time zone.
There are lots of shades between black and white when speaking about the cluck and purr....
I personally don't think it will hurt anything when calling to a turkey using these sounds, I read a thread on another turkey forum in which someone was calling a sound gobblers make akee yelp, saying it is a greeting call. I have a friend who has 20 turkeys penned and when I hear this sound the gobblers arestruting pushing and shoving each other or when they see another gobbler and start displaying and approaching,I would say it isn't a friendly greeting but I don't think it would stop many toms from approaching on your calling. 2 cents
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 22, 2016, 06:06:46 PM
Some of us say the video has merit,...and some say it is hogwash. Both points of view have some validity.
Suffice it to say that the cluck and purr are sounds that turkeys make in a variety of situations, and which have a variety of meanings to other turkeys when communicated back and forth. A hunter can use the cluck and purr to call turkeys in,...and just as assuredly, that same hunter can use a variation of that same call in the wrong situation and send the turkeys they are trying to call scurrying off towards the next time zone.
It's hogwash. He states that it's
not fit for the turkey woods. He specifically says, and even demonstrates (actually pretty well) what kind of purr and cluck he's talking about. That's a feeding (contentment) purr and is used to calm a gobbler that comes in and gets "concerned" that he doesn't see a hen where he thought she should be, or one that hangs up just out of range.
The call is so effective that I call it my "Turkey Dinner" call. And, I've never, ever seen a purr and cluck spook a turkey, lol.
Don't know where that guy hunts, but if he ever comes here to Pa. to hunt our hard hunted birds, he better know how to soft call.
Here's some Youtube clips that state it best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LhPNBcHSVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra7mS6ezrQQ
I will reiterate that our opinions are often based on our own experiences. Here are my thoughts,...take them or leave them,...on hunting my haunts in the southwest. I don't know how they fit in with the video in question, and they are not meant to be critical of others thoughts on the subject. They "is what they is".
I can confidently state that anyone that hunts Merriams turkeys in the mountain ranges of southern NM who thinks they are going to very often call in gobblers by sitting somewhere and softly clucking and purring is most likely going to sit and watch the grass grow and the seasons change a long time before a gobbler shows up. It may happen on the rare occasion, and maybe even, by some sheer stroke of miraculous good fortune, the very first time you try it,....but that strategy is way, way down the list of "smart things to do when hunting Merriams gobblers in New Mexico".
And just as confidently, I will state that anybody that hunts here will regularly have turkeys come to their calling that will almost assuredly go into an aggravated cluck and purr routine if they get to where they think the hen they hear should be,...and there is no hen there. (Now, admittedly, that scenario might not occur as often if a hunter uses decoys so that the hen/gobbler that's approaching has a visual confirmation. I couldn't speak to that because I don't use decoys in my hunting,...just a personal choice,...no statement of disdain for them intended).
Per my earlier post on the subject,...there are indeed times when the cluck and purr is a useful,...and sometimes quite important call to use when turkey hunting. ...But there are very definitely different meanings of the cluck and purr in its/their various forms,...and it is best to know what you are saying when you use them.
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 23, 2016, 01:02:20 PM
I can confidently state that anyone that hunts Merriams turkeys in the mountain ranges of southern NM who thinks they are going to very often call in gobblers by sitting somewhere and softly clucking and purring is most likely going to sit and watch the grass grow and the seasons change a long time before a gobbler shows up.
I'd say you're right about that. It's not even a great technique to use here in the Northeast. My reference to the cluck and purr is as a finishing call (if needed).
Per my earlier post on the subject,...there are indeed times when the cluck and purr is a useful,...and sometimes quite important call to use when turkey hunting. ...But there are very definitely different meanings of the cluck and purr in its/their various forms,...and it is best to know what you are saying when you use them.
I agree 100%. :icon_thumright:
I suspect (have no personal knowledge) that most areas that Merriams inhabit are frequently windy. High wind requires me to call much louder than I prefer as the turkey has to hear you if he is to respond. I try not to hunt in high wind situations, but sometimes get caught in windy weather patterns such that one has to fight the wind if one is to hunt at all. I just haven't had a world of luck fighting high winds. The true cluck and purr is next to useless in high winds.
First of all, he is a RUGGED AMERICAN HUNTER. And he has a really butch name JASON CRUISE (it might as well be Bourne).
You guys are not on the web, so you don't know as much as him. (okay, I guess technically I am reading this on the web, and found it on the web, so you are actually on the web BUT you may be an American and a Hunter, but are you really a RUGGED AMERICAN HUNTER?).
It was Abraham Lincoln that said "75% of what you read on the internet is false".
Also, 68.39% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
If you sit and whisper "Here turkey, turkey" in the woods with lots of birds, you will eventually call in a turkey (and by "call in" I mean a Tom will wander by in range, and when I say Tom I mean one that is hard of hearing, partially blind in one eye and slightly on the Forest Gump side of the intelligence spectrum, on a turkey scale, not a human scale, because Forest would actually be smart if he had been a turkey)
Quote from: g8rvet on July 26, 2016, 02:52:03 PM
First of all, he is a RUGGED AMERICAN HUNTER. And he has a really butch name JASON CRUISE (it might as well be Bourne).
You guys are not on the web, so you don't know as much as him. (okay, I guess technically I am reading this on the web, and found it on the web, so you are actually on the web BUT you may be an American and a Hunter, but are you really a RUGGED AMERICAN HUNTER?).
It was Abraham Lincoln that said "75% of what you read on the internet is false".
Also, 68.39% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
If you sit and whisper "Here turkey, turkey" in the woods with lots of birds, you will eventually call in a turkey (and by "call in" I mean a Tom will wander by in range, and when I say Tom I mean one that is hard of hearing, partially blind in one eye and slightly on the Forest Gump side of the intelligence spectrum, on a turkey scale, not a human scale, because Forest would actually be smart if he had been a turkey)
;D :TooFunny: :toothy12:
I guess nobody ever told me the cluck-purr wasn't a fit call for the woods. I reckon that's why some variation of the cluck-purr is the last thing probably 75% - 90% of the gobblers I've ever killed heard...........
Live and learn, I guess...........
Hens purr just because they are a hen. Kinda like your wives, Chatta, Chatta, chatta. My wife too.
Since I started raising Easterns I have had an education on thier vocabulary. Many of the sounds are just to be heard without much meaning. Example: a hen will be by herself purring softly almost continuously. Like she just wants to talk. Sound familiar? Example: a hen will be alone on the roost preening away paying no attention to anything, purring constantly. Have even watched them Yelp away while preening, head under wing yelping away.
Now add the cluck: it seems to me when the cluck gets above the low volume, she has a concern as the concern grows so does the volume of the cluck.
Purrs are very deadly to Toms. Kinda like that sexy smile females can send our way.
I have to add that the cluck can also be a great sound to lure toms' into range. A mentor of mine once told me that an insistent cluck even at higher volume is deadly. Early in the season I often use this with good results on fired up toms.
Yesterday heard a hen Yelp across the road from me. I grabbed a box and shot back a few yelps. She returned some yelps. I was at a friends place. I asked if they would like to see that bird. They said yea rite. I added the cluck before the yelps. She clucked and yelped. I clucked a few times and one Yelp. She started clucking a bit louder. Staying just a bit louder I clucked faster. Out she pops onto the road clucking like a machine gun Yelp at the end. I love it.
I have never heard an alerted or suspicious turkey purr. Loud clucks or putts if you will are the norm. I am not as seasoned as some on here but my observations have been that context is everything. I have had both hens and toms approach the call using what I call searching clucks. I have scared them and had them moving away on alert clucking. Same call just slightly louder and and sharper on the alert clucks. Purrs may very well be a territorial/aggressive call but if you have ever watched a group of turkeys feeding along then you realize that most turkeys only have a small area of personal space and as long as that is respected all is well. I have never seen feeding purrs alarm turkeys. Fighting purrs are a totally different call. That has more potential to scare away a submissive turkey but a dominate bird will react with similar aggression. It is more about context and delivery than anything else. The same way we can say "great! " and mean either that we are happy to have good news or show that we are being sarcastic.
Quote from: Happy on August 31, 2016, 04:55:40 PM
I have never heard an alerted or suspicious turkey purr. Loud clucks or putts if you will are the norm.
Interesting. This makes me wonder about the differences in turkey behavior/vocabulary in the different subspecies, as well as in different areas of the country. With our Merriam's turkeys here in New Mexico, it is almost guaranteed that if you call in a turkey, at some point when they start to get suspicious about things, they will start with the aggravated cluck and purr.
On a side note, you will (almost) never hear a turkey cackle here. I have heard hens flying off the roost hundreds of times and have heard something resembling a fly down cackle only twice in fifty years. In some other places I have hunted, I have heard it with some regularity.
Maybe i just scare them so bad they skip the purr formality and get the cluck out of dodge. 8) I do hear fly down cackles a good bit. Wouldn't say it is even 50% of the time but I do hear it a few times every spring. I honestly hear more in the fall though. I especially get a kick out of the young toms gobbling on a crisp fall morning
I would say 60-70% of the hens I hear cackle at flydown. So I'm pretty big on using it.
Don't tell the couple thousand turkeys I've called in my life that a cluck and purr won't call them up :OGani:
I'm willing to wager any fantastical sum of money ...to any person , even some youtube prostaff quack , i can walk out into the woods and call up a wild turkey using a cluck and or purr or any combination etc...
Quote from: Old Gobbler on September 03, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
Don't tell the couple thousand turkeys I've called in my life that a cluck and purr won't call them up :OGani:
I'm willing to wager any fantastical sum of money ...to any person , even some youtube prostaff quack , i can walk out into the woods and call up a wild turkey using a cluck and or purr or any combination etc...
You would be a wealthy man with enough takers.
Quote from: Old Gobbler on September 03, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
Don't tell the couple thousand turkeys I've called in my life that a cluck and purr won't call them up :OGani:
I'm willing to wager any fantastical sum of money ...to any person , even some youtube prostaff quack , i can walk out into the woods and call up a wild turkey using a cluck and or purr or any combination etc...
dang , no takers yet ???
I have always been under the impression that most hunters don't even use a cluck and purr, and kills plenty of birds. I was taught that all you really need is a good yelp, and you can call in a gobbler.
All I can say is in any calling situation "Context" is the key...
I killed a gobbler over a live hen "aggressively" Clucking & Purring... fighting purr she was doing against my Upright DSD hen. As soon as the gobbler heard this going on he ran to the hen fight and stepped his last step at 15 yards.
MK M GOBL
If clucking and purring is not a hunting call, I hope someone will share this latest break through with the turkeys :-)
:emoticon-animal-005:
The cluck and purr I hear in real turkeys is a putt and purr when they don't like something. Fighting purrs are different... I mostly agree with the video except that I don't think it will "ruin your hunt". My first turkey I killed was a jake that followed a pissed off hen that came running to my amateur attempt at a cluck and purr on a tube call. I figure she took it as a challenge not a content or a spooked cluck and purr.
How many times have y'all heard em purring when they spot you but can't figure out what you are. And how often do you hear em purring when content and scratching in the leaves... I never hear the latter but I hear them purr all the time when they think something isn't right.
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this has been very interesting reading all the comments here and how divided people seem on the topic
Who really cares, do what works for you. 90% of turkey hunting is having a good spot and the time to stay after them consistently, dont over think it. :z-twocents:
LOL. I think I will continue to use the soft clucks and purrs and continue to kill those hard pressured birds with them. A hen is very very vocal. She constantly makes little putts , whines , clucks and all sorts of soft sounds when content. Most of the time you have to be really close to them in order to hear all of this. most of the hens I see while hunting is constantly vocal albeit soft calling. I have rarely seen a completely silent hen. this is just my experience.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on March 30, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
LOL. I think I will continue to use the soft clucks and purrs and continue to kill those hard pressured birds with them. A hen is very very vocal. She constantly makes little putts , whines , clucks and all sorts of soft sounds when content. Most of the time you have to be really close to them in order to hear all of this. most of the hens I see while hunting is constantly vocal albeit soft calling. I have rarely seen a completely silent hen. this is just my experience.
I've had a different experience... if she's not yelping and looking for me, when a hen comes in very close, she is usually silent until she notices that I don't look quite right, then will start the soft putt and purrs. I have heard a lot more noise from hens when they are in big groups.
I agree about being more vocal in a group and should have been more clear in my statement. most of the times that I see a lone hen , she is coming looking for me when I have been calling. In this situation I have heard alot of sounds from them. I am by no means meaning that I just see hens strolling through the woods yacking away consistently. I'm just saying that they are way more vocal than many think. Also when I see them , most times they are feeding. I have never seen a silent feeding hen that I can recall.
Quote from: catman529 on March 30, 2017, 10:22:05 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on March 30, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
LOL. I think I will continue to use the soft clucks and purrs and continue to kill those hard pressured birds with them. A hen is very very vocal. She constantly makes little putts , whines , clucks and all sorts of soft sounds when content. Most of the time you have to be really close to them in order to hear all of this. most of the hens I see while hunting is constantly vocal albeit soft calling. I have rarely seen a completely silent hen. this is just my experience.
I've had a different experience... if she's not yelping and looking for me, when a hen comes in very close, she is usually silent until she notices that I don't look quite right, then will start the soft putt and purrs. I have heard a lot more noise from hens when they are in big groups.
My experience differs... The only time I have seen a completely silent hen is when they are on the nervous side...
Most hens I see going about their business (during spring, or other times of the year) are making some sort of vocalization, and generally, it is soft clucking or purring...
I suppose experiences would vary as to geography and sub-species being discussed...
Interesting discussion and differing perspectives. The bottom line is that turkeys do cluck and purr as part of their "language" with each other. But again, the "devil is in the details",...that is, the execution of that language by turkeys (or a hunter) in any given situation can mean entirely different things.
And similarly, the use of the cluck and purr by a hunter that does not have some understanding of the spectrum of meanings behind the use of that call can most certainly result in an alarmed and departing turkey. The first step in knowing when, or when not, to use the cluck and purr in a hunting situation is understanding how a gobbler is likely to react to your version of it.
The guy in the video is correct,...but only partially so. His error,...and the resulting discussion here,...is due to his generalization of a turkey vocalization that cannot be so easily generalized.
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 31, 2017, 05:45:28 PM
The guy in the video is correct,...but only partially so. His error,...and the resulting discussion here,...is due to his generalization of a turkey vocalization that cannot be so easily generalized.
So he's wrong. ;D
Well gobblenut , please share the proper time and context in using and interpretation of clucks and purrs. Any of your knowledge will be appreciated.
In a nut shell he's just saying there are several variations, and knowing which is which is beneficial to a hunter. Not all clucks and purrs mean I'm getting out of Dodge! There are content clucks and purrs, contact clucks and purrs, nervous clucks and purrs that are borderline putts etc. so the guy in the video experience nervous or alert clucks and purrs. Which he's saying isn't a hunting call and most will agree with that. Gobblenut is just saying the guy is right, except for lumping all cluck and purrs into the nervous or alert category. I think.
Soft clucks with some purrs and a little leaf scratching has killed me a lot of birds.
Putts and cackles aren't calls I'd throw out at a bird I'm working.
Quote from: guesswho on March 31, 2017, 07:37:31 PM
In a nut shell he's just saying there are several variations, and knowing which is which is beneficial to a hunter. Not all clucks and purrs mean I'm getting out of Dodge! There are content clucks and purrs, contact clucks and purrs, nervous clucks and purrs that are borderline putts etc. so the guy in the video experience nervous or alert clucks and purrs. Which he's saying isn't a hunting call and most will agree with that. Gobblenut is just saying the guy is right, except for lumping all cluck and purrs into the nervous or alert category. I think.
Ok. I was just trying to figure out the right formula. Sometimes I think turkeys are like people , they just talk to hear themselves talk. Sometimes with no ryme or reason.Alot of times I think we read too much in the game. Knowing what to say and when to say it is important. I know I have killed a many gobblers with soft clucks and purrs and purrs and clucks.
I think your right. Some seem to go around talking to themselves. Sometimes I see body posture and action that doesn't fit what I interpreted the audible as being, if that makes sense.
68% of the time it works every time!
Quote from: guesswho on March 31, 2017, 07:37:31 PM
In a nut shell he's just saying there are several variations, and knowing which is which is beneficial to a hunter. Not all clucks and purrs mean I'm getting out of Dodge! There are content clucks and purrs, contact clucks and purrs, nervous clucks and purrs that are borderline putts etc. so the guy in the video experience nervous or alert clucks and purrs. Which he's saying isn't a hunting call and most will agree with that. Gobblenut is just saying the guy is right, except for lumping all cluck and purrs into the nervous or alert category. I think.
^^^Yeah,...what he said
^^^ :newmascot: :newmascot:
Apparently, yelping isn't a turkey hunting call either... I couldn't get that bird to gobble at anything this morning but an owl call... Go figure.
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on April 01, 2017, 12:16:04 PM
Apparently, yelping isn't a turkey hunting call either... I couldn't get that bird to gobble at anything this morning but an owl call... Go figure.
Didn't try the dog whistle thing did ya :newmascot:
Nope.
I tell ya after calling in 4 different hens without a gobbler to be found, I had to have some fun with them, each of them got real vocal with me clucking cutting and purring. I did notice as soon as I started purring they definitely got gen to come straight to the decoy and blow up being absolutely pissed at my decoy. I played with all of them for about 20-30 min no matter what I threw at them they would either mock me or just start yelping or cutting. But not a one freaked out about just clucking and putting, really just clucking and purring got all of them fired up first.
Quote from: Old Gobbler on September 03, 2016, 08:38:37 PM
Don't tell the couple thousand turkeys I've called in my life that a cluck and purr won't call them up :OGani:
I'm willing to wager any fantastical sum of money ...to any person , even some youtube prostaff quack , i can walk out into the woods and call up a wild turkey using a cluck and or purr or any combination etc...
yes they will work. I cannot purr for the life of me on a mouth call but give me a push pin, box or pot call and i'll purr as much I can. fighting purrs have sent them in on a string before. I read years ago about the cluck being one of the most underutilized calls a hunter can make. This was an article from turkey and turkey hunting where they interviewed Jim Clay from Perfection Turkey Calls. Turkeys cluck so I cluck, soft or loud.