Interested in trying a trumpet call this year. Dont know anything about them. Not sure what the difference is in them some are high dollar not sure they sound better or not. Anyone recommend me one. Looking for a starter doesn't have to be a collector just a hunter. Any makers have one for sale feel free to message me...
Brian Mero, Austy Bott, Ralph Permar, Anthony Ellis, Matt McLain, and/or Clay Townsend
Check out my Facebook page Chustz Custom Calls or you can email me ChustzC@gmail.com
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Yes, I'd say with trumpets, for the most part, price affects sound. It's a hard call for a maker to get right. A lot goes on inside to get the internals right and a lot goes into making a call that draws easily with little air. All that said, the list above (Ralph Permar, Austy Bott, Anthony Ellis, etc.) is spot on, but most will have waiting lists. A lot of times Ralph will have some available on his site. Personally I'd suggest buying the Clay Townsend mud cured osage that was just listed in the classifieds on here. That's a great call for a good price. Greg Gwaltney (gergg on the forum) also makes a killer call and might could get you into something before season. If money really is an issue I'd suggest buying one of Ralph Permar's improved Jordans. Not a trumpet but a suction call that you can learn on just the same and in my opinion there's not a better suction call available for $60. He's got some for sale on his site right now. One never leaves my vest.
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If anyone has Clay's contact information please send it to me.
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Clay is on here. Under CTownsend.
To start, get a Jordan, not a trumpet. Jordan's have a much easier draw. You're gonna crank on it trying to play it at first. You'll be fighting a good trumpet whereas a Jordan won't buck. Kinda like learning to drive a 4x4 pickup versus a high dollar sports car. Once you refine your technique you will find that trumpets are require less effort to play and you can do more with them.
Permar knows how to make a Jordan and plenty others do, too.
Chris brumfied, he's one the sight, makes a good affordable trumpet
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Quote from: howl on February 15, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
To start, get a Jordan, not a trumpet. Jordan's have a much easier draw. You're gonna crank on it trying to play it at first. You'll be fighting a good trumpet whereas a Jordan won't buck. Kinda like learning to drive a 4x4 pickup versus a high dollar sports car. Once you refine your technique you will find that trumpets are require less effort to play and you can do more with them.
Permar knows how to make a Jordan and plenty others do, too.
On a good Jordan or wingbone, you shouldn't have to "crank" on it. I build mine to run like a trumpet, meaning less is more.
Actually, great advice for any beginning trumpet, wingbone or Jordan player is "RELAX" and "Easy does it".
GET THE BEST , MOSY EXSPENCIVE ONE YOU CAN AFFORD
PRACTICE , PRACTICE , PRACTICE
IF IT DOESNT WORK OUT FOR YOU OR ITS NOT WHAT YA THINK
YOU CAN ATLEAST GET YOUR MONEY BACK ......
I would recommend a Permar classic in delrin......easy to run, nearly indestructible
and wont break the bank.
Best of luck in whatever you choose!!
Willy :anim_25:
All trumpets aren't equal. What I can run easily, you may have trouble with. Air operated calls maybe more than any other. You need to find what fits you. If you have a call maker nearby, go for a visit. Most call makers will gladly spend some time finding what suits you and give you some instructions. Or, find a buddy that has a few and try them.
Del Crow, Marlin Watkins and Ralph Permar all have good instructional videos on YouTube. Makes it much easier to learn.
Quote from: West Augusta on February 17, 2021, 02:35:53 PM
All trumpets aren't equal. What I can run easily, you may have trouble with. Air operated calls maybe more than any other. You need to find what fits you. If you have a call maker nearby, go for a visit. Most call makers will gladly spend some time finding what suits you and give you some instructions. Or, find a buddy that has a few and try them.
Del Crow, Marlin Watkins and Ralph Permar all have good instructional videos on YouTube. Makes it much easier to learn.
Agreed. I build them to the sound and style that i like to run them. But someone else might not like it . Just like mouth calls some people like a certain cut and some don't
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Quote from: EZ on February 16, 2021, 06:34:04 AM
Quote from: howl on February 15, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
To start, get a Jordan, not a trumpet. Jordan's have a much easier draw. You're gonna crank on it trying to play it at first. You'll be fighting a good trumpet whereas a Jordan won't buck. Kinda like learning to drive a 4x4 pickup versus a high dollar sports car. Once you refine your technique you will find that trumpets are require less effort to play and you can do more with them.
Permar knows how to make a Jordan and plenty others do, too.
On a good Jordan or wingbone, you shouldn't have to "crank" on it. I build mine to run like a trumpet, meaning less is more.
Actually, great advice for any beginning trumpet, wingbone or Jordan player is "RELAX" and "Easy does it".
That's just nonsense when it comes to starting out. We're not talking about someone who already knows how to run one. I can't speak to any confusion you may have about what you may or may not build.
The elitism amongst suction yelper players is ridiculous. You even get people who play different trumpets in different styles pretending one is superior to the other. "Oh, you can't play like Farmer? Well, I don't know how you expect to call anything." Good grief. There are times and applications for all styles, including cranking on it like you do when you are starting out and trying real hard.
If you want to learn to play, start with an actual Jordan style.
For the $$$ and just starting out id give Mr. Daryl Gibson a call. I got a trumpet from him last year and its really a good sounding call. Not sure how it stacks up against some of the bigger names in trumpets but as a "beginner" myself it didnt take very long to become proficient with it. After a spring and fall season under my belt with my gibson trumpet and building confidence i wont hit the turkey woods without it. Great guy to deal with also.
Quote from: jordanz7935 on February 18, 2021, 04:36:34 PM
For the $$$ and just starting out id give Mr. Daryl Gibson a call. I got a trumpet from him last year and its really a good sounding call. Not sure how it stacks up against some of the bigger names in trumpets but as a "beginner" myself it didnt take very long to become proficient with it. After a spring and fall season under my belt with my gibson trumpet and building confidence i wont hit the turkey woods without it. Great guy to deal with also.
You got a great call!!! I can't disagree with anyone's answers they gave I will just add a couple more names Lewis Stowe, Daryl Slaton, Ernie Fetters are great calls and reasonable prices and readily available. Charlie Trotter is also another option he builds some really extravagant high end calls but he also built me a hunter grade call at a very reasonable price. I got rid of Facebook but you can probably get in touch with many of these guys on there.
Quote from: howl on February 18, 2021, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: EZ on February 16, 2021, 06:34:04 AM
Quote from: howl on February 15, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
To start, get a Jordan, not a trumpet. Jordan's have a much easier draw. You're gonna crank on it trying to play it at first. You'll be fighting a good trumpet whereas a Jordan won't buck. Kinda like learning to drive a 4x4 pickup versus a high dollar sports car. Once you refine your technique you will find that trumpets are require less effort to play and you can do more with them.
Permar knows how to make a Jordan and plenty others do, too.
On a good Jordan or wingbone, you shouldn't have to "crank" on it. I build mine to run like a trumpet, meaning less is more.
Actually, great advice for any beginning trumpet, wingbone or Jordan player is "RELAX" and "Easy does it".
That's just nonsense when it comes to starting out. We're not talking about someone who already knows how to run one. I can't speak to any confusion you may have about what you may or may not build.
The elitism amongst suction yelper players is ridiculous. You even get people who play different trumpets in different styles pretending one is superior to the other. "Oh, you can't play like Farmer? Well, I don't know how you expect to call anything." Good grief. There are times and applications for all styles, including cranking on it like you do when you are starting out and trying real hard.
If you want to learn to play, start with an actual Jordan style.
I'm not sure why you would think "Thats just nonsense" for someone (who knows how to run a suction yelper) to give a beginner advice to relax their air draw or draw air easy instead of cranking on it.
Thats pretty much what Marlin Watkins, Del Crow, Ralph Permar and Mark Prudhomme are saying in their you-tube instructional's, and also an older seminar of Zach Farmer. With the info that is now out there, if a beginner really wants to take the time to learn there is no reason to be "cranking" on a call when your learning.
I doubt that EZ has any "confusion" about the calls he builds.
His wing bone and Jordan calls draw air and run as easy as any of the big name trumpets I have run.
As do Mark Sharpe's and R. Permar's.
Quote from: crow on February 19, 2021, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: howl on February 18, 2021, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: EZ on February 16, 2021, 06:34:04 AM
Quote from: howl on February 15, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
To start, get a Jordan, not a trumpet. Jordan's have a much easier draw. You're gonna crank on it trying to play it at first. You'll be fighting a good trumpet whereas a Jordan won't buck. Kinda like learning to drive a 4x4 pickup versus a high dollar sports car. Once you refine your technique you will find that trumpets are require less effort to play and you can do more with them.
Permar knows how to make a Jordan and plenty others do, too.
On a good Jordan or wingbone, you shouldn't have to "crank" on it. I build mine to run like a trumpet, meaning less is more.
Actually, great advice for any beginning trumpet, wingbone or Jordan player is "RELAX" and "Easy does it".
That's just nonsense when it comes to starting out. We're not talking about someone who already knows how to run one. I can't speak to any confusion you may have about what you may or may not build.
The elitism amongst suction yelper players is ridiculous. You even get people who play different trumpets in different styles pretending one is superior to the other. "Oh, you can't play like Farmer? Well, I don't know how you expect to call anything." Good grief. There are times and applications for all styles, including cranking on it like you do when you are starting out and trying real hard.
If you want to learn to play, start with an actual Jordan style.
I'm not sure why you would think "Thats just nonsense" for someone (who knows how to run a suction yelper) to give a beginner advice to relax their air draw or draw air easy instead of cranking on it.
Thats pretty much what Marlin Watkins, Del Crow, Ralph Permar and Mark Prudhomme are saying in their you-tube instructional's, and also an older seminar of Zach Farmer. With the info that is now out there, if a beginner really wants to take the time to learn there is no reason to be "cranking" on a call when your learning.
I doubt that EZ has any "confusion" about the calls he builds.
His wing bone and Jordan calls draw air and run as easy as any of the big name trumpets I have run.
As do Mark Sharpe's and R. Permar's.
Thank you Crow.....I didn't get the "nonsense" part either. Not sure how Mr. Howl took my advice as condescending or elite, but I certainly didn't mean it that way. I was only giving the very best advice I can give and that's after 30+ years of building and playing around with these great calls.
I love helping folks get started or get better on any suction type yelper. First thing I tell them is quit "cranking" on the call. That's NOT a put down, it's a MUST if you really want to learn.
Quote from: EZ on February 20, 2021, 07:57:50 AM
Quote from: crow on February 19, 2021, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: howl on February 18, 2021, 03:05:54 PM
Quote from: EZ on February 16, 2021, 06:34:04 AM
Quote from: howl on February 15, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
To start, get a Jordan, not a trumpet. Jordan's have a much easier draw. You're gonna crank on it trying to play it at first. You'll be fighting a good trumpet whereas a Jordan won't buck. Kinda like learning to drive a 4x4 pickup versus a high dollar sports car. Once you refine your technique you will find that trumpets are require less effort to play and you can do more with them.
Permar knows how to make a Jordan and plenty others do, too.
On a good Jordan or wingbone, you shouldn't have to "crank" on it. I build mine to run like a trumpet, meaning less is more.
Actually, great advice for any beginning trumpet, wingbone or Jordan player is "RELAX" and "Easy does it".
That's just nonsense when it comes to starting out. We're not talking about someone who already knows how to run one. I can't speak to any confusion you may have about what you may or may not build.
The elitism amongst suction yelper players is ridiculous. You even get people who play different trumpets in different styles pretending one is superior to the other. "Oh, you can't play like Farmer? Well, I don't know how you expect to call anything." Good grief. There are times and applications for all styles, including cranking on it like you do when you are starting out and trying real hard.
If you want to learn to play, start with an actual Jordan style.
I'm not sure why you would think "Thats just nonsense" for someone (who knows how to run a suction yelper) to give a beginner advice to relax their air draw or draw air easy instead of cranking on it.
Thats pretty much what Marlin Watkins, Del Crow, Ralph Permar and Mark Prudhomme are saying in their you-tube instructional's, and also an older seminar of Zach Farmer. With the info that is now out there, if a beginner really wants to take the time to learn there is no reason to be "cranking" on a call when your learning.
I doubt that EZ has any "confusion" about the calls he builds.
His wing bone and Jordan calls draw air and run as easy as any of the big name trumpets I have run.
As do Mark Sharpe's and R. Permar's.
Thank you Crow.....I didn't get the "nonsense" part either. Not sure how Mr. Howl took my advice as condescending or elite, but I certainly didn't mean it that way. I was only giving the very best advice I can give and that's after 30+ years of building and playing around with these great calls.
I love helping folks get started or get better on any suction type yelper. First thing I tell them is quit "cranking" on the call. That's NOT a put down, it's a MUST if you really want to learn.
Absolutely. And there's certainly a time for loud calling, but volume on a suction call isn't cranking up the draw as much as it's opening up the hands. Learn to call soft with little air and the rest is easy. Both of y'all's advice is spot on, and I agree with the Jordan recommendation, hence why I tried to steer toward a Permar improved Jordan above. Sixty bucks for a call from one of our finest, and them little suckers have been the deaths of many a turkey.
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Who is this EZ, who makes calls?
And how do you get in touch with him?
Thanks
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Quote from: ConoverCustomCalls on February 21, 2021, 05:58:58 PM
Who is this EZ, who makes calls?
And how do you get in touch with him?
Thanks
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He posted in this thread just above you, his user name is EZ, just PM him....yes, he makes killer wingbones & Cane calls.
Quote from: jordanz7935 on February 18, 2021, 04:36:34 PM
For the $$$ and just starting out id give Mr. Daryl Gibson a call. I got a trumpet from him last year and its really a good sounding call. Not sure how it stacks up against some of the bigger names in trumpets but as a "beginner" myself it didnt take very long to become proficient with it. After a spring and fall season under my belt with my gibson trumpet and building confidence i wont hit the turkey woods without it. Great guy to deal with also.
I just ordered a call from Daryl. Called him up and talked to him about what he had. He was a really good guy to deal with and talk to. He ran his calls over the phone for me to listen to. I was only planning to get a trumpet but he sent me a picture of a matched set trumpet and crow call that I couldn't turn down. I'm really looking forward to learning on it.