Looking for a red dot for my 301 20GA. Really interested in the Swampfox Kingslayer and the Burris FF3, but just wondering if there was some others I should consider. TIA!
Kingslayer
I've run some Bushnell RXS-100 on a few guns and if money is super tight that's been a solid set up on everything I've ever put it on.
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Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on March 13, 2023, 07:38:30 PM
I've run some Bushnell RXS-100 on a few guns and if money is super tight that's been a solid set up on everything I've ever put it on.
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Bass pro has the Bushnell on sale for $75
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bushnell-rxs-100-red-dot-reflex-sight?searchTerm=Bushnell%20rxs
Burris FF3 is the best deal in the market. That's a fact, not an opinion.
Burris FF3 is $160 and has a lifetime/no-questions-asked repair or replacement warranty. Only Burris and Vortex have that type of warranty. The Vortex is just as good but $90 more. If you are ever on a hunt, crawling and smash your glass on a rock and it breaks, Burris will give you a new unit. Vortex would do the same. Trijicon, Swampfox and Holosun will politely tell you to go fly a kite. Get the FF3.
sig romeo 5
I wouldn't put another kingslayer on a turkey gun if it was the last optic on earth. That thing is terrible for hunting, I have one laying around that I might put on an air rifle or something, but never on a turkey gun. It turns itself off after 4 hours. Period. I don't care if you move it, adjust the intensity of the dot, whatever, that thing is going to turn off at the 4 hour mark and you have to manually turn it back on. Chances are its gonna happen with a turkey in front of you sooner or later.
You can get the romeo 5 considerably cheaper, it has WAY better battery life, is auto off/on and the motion activation is very sensitive, you don't have to ever worry about it not turning on.
Quote from: fmf on March 14, 2023, 09:34:30 AM
sig romeo 5
I wouldn't put another kingslayer on a turkey gun if it was the last optic on earth. That thing is terrible for hunting, I have one laying around that I might put on an air rifle or something, but never on a turkey gun. It turns itself off after 4 hours. Period. I don't care if you move it, adjust the intensity of the dot, whatever, that thing is going to turn off at the 4 hour mark and you have to manually turn it back on. Chances are its gonna happen with a turkey in front of you sooner or later.
You can get the romeo 5 considerably cheaper, it has WAY better battery life, is auto off/on and the motion activation is very sensitive, you don't have to ever worry about it not turning on.
I'm curious if you contacted Swampfox about the issue? As I understand it, if the buttons are pressed it shouldn't shut off. It seems that most folks are pretty happy with their Kingslayer and from what I have read their customer service is good.
Quote from: Glades on March 14, 2023, 09:01:47 AM
Burris FF3 is the best deal in the market. That's a fact, not an opinion.
Burris FF3 is $160 and has a lifetime/no-questions-asked repair or replacement warranty. Only Burris and Vortex have that type of warranty. The Vortex is just as good but $90 more. If you are ever on a hunt, crawling and smash your glass on a rock and it breaks, Burris will give you a new unit. Vortex would do the same. Trijicon, Swampfox and Holosun will politely tell you to go fly a kite. Get the FF3.
Where are you finding this for 160.00, everywhere I'm looking says 250ish
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I'm curious as to why you would need it on 4hrs or longer?? That's one heck of a gobbler duel ! I would be wore out!!! I too have heard excellent results from this sight
Quote from: Birddog1 on March 14, 2023, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: fmf on March 14, 2023, 09:34:30 AM
sig romeo 5
I wouldn't put another kingslayer on a turkey gun if it was the last optic on earth. That thing is terrible for hunting, I have one laying around that I might put on an air rifle or something, but never on a turkey gun. It turns itself off after 4 hours. Period. I don't care if you move it, adjust the intensity of the dot, whatever, that thing is going to turn off at the 4 hour mark and you have to manually turn it back on. Chances are its gonna happen with a turkey in front of you sooner or later.
You can get the romeo 5 considerably cheaper, it has WAY better battery life, is auto off/on and the motion activation is very sensitive, you don't have to ever worry about it not turning on.
I'm curious if you contacted Swampfox about the issue? As I understand it, if the buttons are pressed it shouldn't shut off. It seems that most folks are pretty happy with their Kingslayer and from what I have read their customer service is good.
It's not an issue. That is how the Kingslayer is designed. It is not designed as a Shake and Wake optic.
https://support.swampfoxoptics.com/en-US/kingslayer-and-liberator-auto-off-can-it-be-programmed-25744
I've been real happy with the at3 micro red dots. Same footprint as a Fastfire, cheaper, and I like the button and battery cap quite a bit more.
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Quote from: Wigsplitter on March 14, 2023, 09:06:44 PM
I'm curious as to why you would need it on 4hrs or longer?? That's one heck of a gobbler duel ! I would be wore out!!! I too have heard excellent results from this sight
it doesn't have to be a 4 hour duel, if I didn't have a shake awake site, I would turn my site on when I leave my truck. Or if it was a high battery life I would just put a new battery in it turn it on on opening morning and never turn it off. Repeat each year. What is the other option, wait to get on a bird and turn on your site? Nah, thats not for me at all. No way I'm hunting something that can turn off at the wrong time.
Swampfox Kingslayer ... Awesome circle green dot and if you were ever to need it, great customer service...
Quote from: ChesterCopperpot on March 13, 2023, 07:38:30 PM
I've run some Bushnell RXS-100 on a few guns and if money is super tight that's been a solid set up on everything I've ever put it on.
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This is what I put on on my SA-28. Hard to imagine a better sight for under $100.
Camera Land New York still has the SightronSRS-2 Reflex Sight Kit - MOA-6 for $119.99.
Some may not like the 6 MOA dotbut it works good for me.
https://cameralandny.com/shop/sightron-srs-2-reflex-sight-kit-moa-6-40021/bdb22850-45c4-013a-67f8-00163ecd2826?variation=3137941&query=SightronSRS-2%20
Quote from: eddie234 on March 14, 2023, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Glades on March 14, 2023, 09:01:47 AM
Burris FF3 is the best deal in the market. That's a fact, not an opinion.
Burris FF3 is $160 and has a lifetime/no-questions-asked repair or replacement warranty. Only Burris and Vortex have that type of warranty. The Vortex is just as good but $90 more. If you are ever on a hunt, crawling and smash your glass on a rock and it breaks, Burris will give you a new unit. Vortex would do the same. Trijicon, Swampfox and Holosun will politely tell you to go fly a kite. Get the FF3.
Where are you finding this for 160.00, everywhere I'm looking says 250ish
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There are several large outdoor retailers on eBay that sell them new in box. That's where I got mine.
Quote from: fmf on March 14, 2023, 09:34:30 AM
sig romeo 5
I wouldn't put another kingslayer on a turkey gun if it was the last optic on earth. That thing is terrible for hunting, I have one laying around that I might put on an air rifle or something, but never on a turkey gun. It turns itself off after 4 hours. Period. I don't care if you move it, adjust the intensity of the dot, whatever, that thing is going to turn off at the 4 hour mark and you have to manually turn it back on. Chances are its gonna happen with a turkey in front of you sooner or later.
You can get the romeo 5 considerably cheaper, it has WAY better battery life, is auto off/on and the motion activation is very sensitive, you don't have to ever worry about it not turning on.
I used mine this season & so far I'm loving it. Just have to wait & see if it holds up. I think it is supposed to shut off after 4 hours to keep from running the battery down if you forget to turn it off. It's never been a problem for me so far.
Good advice in this thread for sure ....
Quote from: quackaddict on March 14, 2023, 10:38:49 PM
I've been real happy with the at3 micro red dots. Same footprint as a Fastfire, cheaper, and I like the button and battery cap quite a bit more.
This!!
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Quote from: grayfox on April 26, 2023, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: fmf on March 14, 2023, 09:34:30 AM
sig romeo 5
I wouldn't put another kingslayer on a turkey gun if it was the last optic on earth. That thing is terrible for hunting, I have one laying around that I might put on an air rifle or something, but never on a turkey gun. It turns itself off after 4 hours. Period. I don't care if you move it, adjust the intensity of the dot, whatever, that thing is going to turn off at the 4 hour mark and you have to manually turn it back on. Chances are its gonna happen with a turkey in front of you sooner or later.
You can get the romeo 5 considerably cheaper, it has WAY better battery life, is auto off/on and the motion activation is very sensitive, you don't have to ever worry about it not turning on.
I used mine this season & so far I'm loving it. Just have to wait & see if it holds up. I think it is supposed to shut off after 4 hours to keep from running the battery down if you forget to turn it off. It's never been a problem for me so far.
Romeo 5 is the way
I have run the FF 3's on several guns without issue except for one that I had would not hold zero ...
That particular red dot was used and I bought in the classifieds on this forum
I sent it back to Burris no questions asked they sent me a new one in the box
Hard to beat that customer service .
I also run Leupolds on serval guns with no problems but to answer your question for the money you can't beat the Burris FF 3
Good luck
Quote from: Glades on March 14, 2023, 09:01:47 AM
Burris FF3 is the best deal in the market. That's a fact, not an opinion.
Burris FF3 is $160 and has a lifetime/no-questions-asked repair or replacement warranty. Only Burris and Vortex have that type of warranty. The Vortex is just as good but $90 more. If you are ever on a hunt, crawling and smash your glass on a rock and it breaks, Burris will give you a new unit. Vortex would do the same. Trijicon, Swampfox and Holosun will politely tell you to go fly a kite. Get the FF3.
Not sure about Swamp Fox not replacing them. I messed up the lens on mine last year and they replaced it no questions asked.
Quote from: eddie234 on March 14, 2023, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Glades on March 14, 2023, 09:01:47 AM
Burris FF3 is the best deal in the market. That's a fact, not an opinion.
Burris FF3 is $160 and has a lifetime/no-questions-asked repair or replacement warranty. Only Burris and Vortex have that type of warranty. The Vortex is just as good but $90 more. If you are ever on a hunt, crawling and smash your glass on a rock and it breaks, Burris will give you a new unit. Vortex would do the same. Trijicon, Swampfox and Holosun will politely tell you to go fly a kite. Get the FF3.
Where are you finding this for 160.00, everywhere I'm looking says 250ish
I'd like to know that too. I've been seeing $229 more often lately. Prices go up from there.