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Title: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on July 24, 2015, 07:48:06 PM
Good news folks.  I just got off of the phone with a man that is starting a company that is making a Dymondwood substitute.  I am working on getting a few samples.  The don't have a retailer set up for us to purchase cut blanks YET but they are actively working on it.  If you are interested you can contact them.  The company is so new they don't even have a website yet.

cliff@DBWebbinc.com  (585) 739-0173
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: callmakerman on July 25, 2015, 08:31:39 AM
Great news Steve :z-winnersmiley:  Thanx
Title: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: Bro2032 on July 26, 2015, 10:31:23 PM
This is very good news. Thanks for letting us know.!!
Title: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: ccleroy on July 26, 2015, 11:47:16 PM
Good stuff, talked to Cliff! Thank you!!
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: mastevt on July 27, 2015, 01:04:31 PM
be interesting to see how it compares to the original stuff. 
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on July 27, 2015, 01:35:44 PM
I hope to be able to tell you soon.
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: Rick Howard on July 27, 2015, 06:14:13 PM
Thanks for the heads up!  Great news if the product is a match.
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on July 29, 2015, 05:54:52 PM
Well, I got 3 blanks in and it looks good.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2yw7rxc.jpg)
First thing that you notice is the veneers are thinner that the Dymondwood on the right.
When you smack it with a wrench it doesn't have the same ping like Dymondwood. 
I'll spin one up Saturday morning and see how it compares.  It's just too hot tonight.

I just talked to Cliff again and he tells me that the veneer are actually the same thickness as Dymondwood when they start but are pressed that much thinner in their process that makes the whole thing more dense. 
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on July 30, 2015, 06:36:02 PM
It doesn't turn to bad and doesn't have the plastic smell like Dymondwood.  It will be a few days before I know how it sounds.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2s6wzys.jpg)
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: outdoors on July 30, 2015, 06:57:49 PM
APPRECIATE THE UPDATES
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on August 01, 2015, 06:10:02 PM
Got it tuned last night and started to finish it.  Folks.  It will work.  It makes a decent striker.  I'll let you all make your own decisions as to whether it is a complete replacement for Dymondwood but I will say that it will hunt and run just about any surface. 

Currently they only have a couple of samples and are getting production ramped up and are looking for large volume retailers to handle the distribution.  It won't be long.
Title: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: ccleroy on August 02, 2015, 12:00:29 AM
I got my sample today, I'm gonna turn it tomorrow and see how it works.
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: mmclain on August 02, 2015, 12:36:10 PM
Quote from: West Augusta on August 01, 2015, 06:10:02 PM
Got it tuned last night and started to finish it.  Folks.  It will work.  It makes a decent striker.  I'll let you all make your own decisions as to whether it is a complete replacement for Dymondwood but I will say that it will hunt and run just about any surface. 

Currently they only have a couple of samples and are getting production ramped up and are looking for large volume retailers to handle the distribution.  It won't be long.

Not a rave review
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on August 02, 2015, 03:47:08 PM
I only ran it enough to tune it.  I'm finishing it now.  I'll try to get a sound file up when it's done but from what I see It isn't Dymondwood but seems to be an acceptable replacement.  I think that if I can't get anymore Dymondwood, I'll be happy using Webb wood.  It does turn easier than Dymondwood.  This stuff won't polish like Dymondwood.  You have to finish it.  It's just not exactly the same stuff. I also turned the other two blanks so I'll spend a little more time with these and get a good feel for how they sound in comparison to Dymondwood. 
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: M,Yingling on August 02, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
after looking at the price sheet on panels is the material going to be worth the $7 .00 or so per striker blank ? ,,,,for u guys that had a chance to turn it
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on August 02, 2015, 05:12:50 PM
http://soundcloud.com/user215906635/webb-wood-striker


(http://i59.tinypic.com/202uzb.jpg)

Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on August 02, 2015, 05:19:29 PM
Mike,  I would pay $7.00 per blank for it. Especially knowing that Dymondwood hasn't even started to rebuild and the supply of Dymondwood is quickly getting used up.
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on August 26, 2015, 05:59:54 PM
Webb wood has their web site up and running. 

http://dbwebbinc.com/

I'm currently making my own personal striker out of the HD Webb Wood.
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: West Augusta on August 29, 2015, 10:32:45 PM
I finally made myself a Webb wood striker.  I had to send the first one back to Webb wood.  Small price to get to be the first to turn their product.
This one is mine and I'll give it a good run against my Dymondwood striker and see how it stacks up but right now I like it.  It isn't the same stuff but then the process is different.  It is slightly softer which gives it a good bite on a pot call surface.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/308hc8j.jpg)
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: WillowRidgeCalls on December 08, 2015, 09:57:11 AM
The striker sounded good Steve, have you tried tuning one out of the PM or the PH yet, or has anyone else tried it? With the PH being 100% water proof, if it sounds good might just be the ticket?
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: lightsoutcalls on February 03, 2016, 11:52:38 AM
I got a 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" x 12" blank of the High Density WebbWood and the Phenolic Medium Density from HUT products.  I haven't had a chance to turn it yet, but came searching to see if anyone else has.  I'll try to get a couple of pictures this weekend after I turn a couple of strikers.  Price was definitely more than the Dymondwood I was used to... 

Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: lightsoutcalls on February 09, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
I had hoped to have pictures of strikers turned from the WebbWood material, but ran into a snag.  I purchased a couple of blanks from HUT products and got them in last week.  I cut them to size and started to turn one.  The material was chipping and tearing something awful and had to re-sharpen my gouge twice on the first blank.  Upon closer inspection, the folks at HUT had cut the material cross-grain, which meant I was basically turning end grain... Not only did this cause the material to chip and tear, not only was it rough on tools, it also caused the turned piece to have grain running across the striker rather than the length of the striker... which caused it to break with little pressure.
I contacted WebbWood to explain the issue.  They had already been made aware of the problem.  I called HUT this morning and found that they had cut the material across the grain to increase their yield from the larger planks. I think they are finding that taking shortcuts to increase their profit in-turn ending up costing them more.  They are going to send out replacements for the blanks, so hopefully I will be able to have pictures available NEXT week.  Still looking forward to seeing how this stuff turns.
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: M,Yingling on February 09, 2016, 01:34:08 PM
seen that on a wood working fourm that hut was sending out cross grain blanks that makes it real tuff to turn strikers impossible ,,,,  I have tried it with dymond wood to get every last blank and it don't work lol 
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: pappy on February 10, 2016, 10:31:42 AM
I have turned some of both types from Hut and a dealer ...the hut's was cut wrong and was very unresponsive to my chisels no matter what ... but the wood from the dealer...(on ebay) turned right...I was wondering why....so thanks Wendell for finding out...I am gonna get a hold of Hut and send theirs back....
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: lightsoutcalls on February 18, 2016, 12:04:41 PM
Quote from: pappy on February 10, 2016, 10:31:42 AM
I have turned some of both types from Hut and a dealer ...the hut's was cut wrong and was very unresponsive to my chisels no matter what ... but the wood from the dealer...(on ebay) turned right...I was wondering why....so thanks Wendell for finding out...I am gonna get a hold of Hut and send theirs back....

It took a week and a half to get my replacement stock from HUT.  No offense to HUT, but I can't see buying from them on a long term basis to do any volume of strikers.  That said, I got a striker turned from the high density (without phenolic) last night.  I was pleased with how it turned and really liked the sound on anodized aluminum. 

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/thumbs/20160217_181337-1.jpg)
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/thumbs/20160217_181355.jpg)
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: M,Yingling on March 17, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
got a chance turn some of this wood today at $3.70 a striker blank is it worth it not realy sure yet ,,,  its not to bad  like was said grips pretty good ran a striker on every surface seemed to hold its tip very well  keeps playin havnt conditioned it yet  ,,, I say its a step up from the spectrally laminate wood and step down from dymond wood
Title: Re: A Dymondwood replacement
Post by: Rick Howard on March 18, 2016, 05:58:20 PM
I have been holding out for the HD phenolic.