Title: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Jimspur on June 24, 2019, 11:54:49 PM
Post by: Jimspur on June 24, 2019, 11:54:49 PM
Looking for a hunting trumpet and think I have it narrowed down to
a Permar Delrin .45 or a Billy Buice Osage.
What would you guys recommend? I have used an old Penn's Woods
trumpet with some success, but I'm no trumpet expert.
Thanks, Jim
a Permar Delrin .45 or a Billy Buice Osage.
What would you guys recommend? I have used an old Penn's Woods
trumpet with some success, but I'm no trumpet expert.
Thanks, Jim
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on June 25, 2019, 01:03:23 AM
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on June 25, 2019, 01:03:23 AM
Those are both excellent trumpets, great sound and easy to run. I would give the edge to the Buice for the interchangeable mouthpieces, and collector interest, should you change your mind.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: BigSlam51 on June 25, 2019, 04:38:09 AM
Post by: BigSlam51 on June 25, 2019, 04:38:09 AM
I'll second Billy Buice
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Chris O on June 25, 2019, 05:58:33 AM
Post by: Chris O on June 25, 2019, 05:58:33 AM
I think you would be happy with either choice. I don't have a Permar yet but plan on getting one. I haven't heard anything bad about either maker
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Rzrbac on June 25, 2019, 09:41:41 AM
Post by: Rzrbac on June 25, 2019, 09:41:41 AM
Mr. Buice trumpets seem very easy for me to play. I own one and have another on order. I'm not a collector, just want a solid pair of trumpets for hunting. I'm confident that's what you will get from Mr. Buice.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: outdoors on June 25, 2019, 09:50:57 AM
Post by: outdoors on June 25, 2019, 09:50:57 AM
Here's one too consider is Greg He's on here username is Gergg
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 09:52:51 AM
Post by: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 09:52:51 AM
Buice or Permar is a good choice. I would double check with Mr. Billy about Osage. Go with a number 4 if you go with Buice and get one mouthpiece. Good luck.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: silverspur on June 25, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
Post by: silverspur on June 25, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
Billy McCallister from Georgia makes a mighty fine trumpet too
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: BigSlam51 on June 25, 2019, 12:13:17 PM
Post by: BigSlam51 on June 25, 2019, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: silverspur on June 25, 2019, 10:34:05 AMThat he does, and for a good price!
Billy McCallister from Georgia makes a mighty fine trumpet too
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 01:12:02 PM
Post by: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 01:12:02 PM
You are going to get 100 recommendations of different makers, there are that many or more. Research the board and see which come up, how often, and why. Good luck in your search.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: bobk on June 25, 2019, 01:33:45 PM
Post by: bobk on June 25, 2019, 01:33:45 PM
Billy Buice.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 01:55:17 PM
Post by: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 01:55:17 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Guess I'll have to call Mr. Billy.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 02:01:21 PM
Post by: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 09:52:51 AMI understand what you mean by number 4, but when you say
Buice or Permar is a good choice. I would double check with Mr. Billy about Osage. Go with a number 4 if you go with Buice and get one mouthpiece. Good luck.
"get one mouthpiece", does that mean it's a mouthpiece that can't be interchanged?
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 02:46:07 PM
Post by: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 02:01:21 PMQuote from: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 09:52:51 AMI understand what you mean by number 4, but when you say
Buice or Permar is a good choice. I would double check with Mr. Billy about Osage. Go with a number 4 if you go with Buice and get one mouthpiece. Good luck.
"get one mouthpiece", does that mean it's a mouthpiece that can't be interchanged?
I do not always word well, if you decide to only get one mouthpiece and not multiple to interchange go with the #4 if you are pretty novice with a trumpet. Mr. Billy's trumpets do offer interchangeable mouthpieces with a screw in or push in design. You have the option to get multiple interchangeable mouthpieces and can get the varying numbers, the same numbered mouthpiece in different materials, delrin, micarta, corian, etc, or mix and match. You can have multiple options with mouthpieces with one trumpet barrel. Hope that is a bit more clear.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: KentuckyHeadhunter on June 25, 2019, 02:49:24 PM
Post by: KentuckyHeadhunter on June 25, 2019, 02:49:24 PM
I have both and would definitely recommend the Buice. Tje Permar 45 is a great call but more medium pitched. Billy's are more versatile. Get the screw in though.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: sbbow on June 25, 2019, 04:31:20 PM
Post by: sbbow on June 25, 2019, 04:31:20 PM
Quote from: silverspur on June 25, 2019, 10:34:05 AMX3
Billy McCallister from Georgia makes a mighty fine trumpet too
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: willy9889 on June 25, 2019, 05:02:58 PM
Post by: willy9889 on June 25, 2019, 05:02:58 PM
Would definitely recommend a Permar classic over a model 45. Find it tough to KeeKee
properly with the 45 and here in Ontario those Kee Kees are magic.
Have never encountered another hunter here using a trumpet.
The Classic is perfect for that and also can be fairly raspy for
a higher pitched call.
Willy
properly with the 45 and here in Ontario those Kee Kees are magic.
Have never encountered another hunter here using a trumpet.
The Classic is perfect for that and also can be fairly raspy for
a higher pitched call.
Willy
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 11:57:09 PM
Post by: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 11:57:09 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 02:46:07 PMThat makes perfect sense. I really appreciate all your guysQuote from: Jimspur on June 25, 2019, 02:01:21 PMQuote from: davisd9 on June 25, 2019, 09:52:51 AMI understand what you mean by number 4, but when you say
Buice or Permar is a good choice. I would double check with Mr. Billy about Osage. Go with a number 4 if you go with Buice and get one mouthpiece. Good luck.
"get one mouthpiece", does that mean it's a mouthpiece that can't be interchanged?
I do not always word well, if you decide to only get one mouthpiece and not multiple to interchange go with the #4 if you are pretty novice with a trumpet. Mr. Billy's trumpets do offer interchangeable mouthpieces with a screw in or push in design. You have the option to get multiple interchangeable mouthpieces and can get the varying numbers, the same numbered mouthpiece in different materials, delrin, micarta, corian, etc, or mix and match. You can have multiple options with mouthpieces with one trumpet barrel. Hope that is a bit more clear.
suggestions. I'm gonna call Mr. Billy tomorrow.
Thanks again,
Jim
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: AT on June 26, 2019, 12:47:16 AM
Post by: AT on June 26, 2019, 12:47:16 AM
Quote from: KentuckyHeadhunter on June 25, 2019, 02:49:24 PMIs there any difference other than obvious between the screw in and push in?
I have both and would definitely recommend the Buice. Tje Permar 45 is a great call but more medium pitched. Billy's are more versatile. Get the screw in though.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Chris O on June 26, 2019, 05:01:37 AM
Post by: Chris O on June 26, 2019, 05:01:37 AM
:funnyturkey:
Quote from: AT on June 26, 2019, 12:47:16 AMI don't have push in mouth pieces but the guys that do usually have them tied off on a separate lanyard so they don't fall out and lose them. I don't do that with stew in. I am not sure if there is any other difference between the two. I would think sound would be the same but Mr. Billy uses the push in mostly from what I have gathered from him.Quote from: KentuckyHeadhunter on June 25, 2019, 02:49:24 PMIs there any difference other than obvious between the screw in and push in?
I have both and would definitely recommend the Buice. Tje Permar 45 is a great call but more medium pitched. Billy's are more versatile. Get the screw in though.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: silverspur on June 26, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
Post by: silverspur on June 26, 2019, 06:59:32 AM
I also have a 45 from Ralph that is a awesome call and glad I have it! Ernie Fetters of Shade Mountain also makes great trumpets and yelpers.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: davisd9 on June 26, 2019, 07:09:34 AM
Post by: davisd9 on June 26, 2019, 07:09:34 AM
Quote from: AT on June 26, 2019, 12:47:16 AMQuote from: KentuckyHeadhunter on June 25, 2019, 02:49:24 PMIs there any difference other than obvious between the screw in and push in?
I have both and would definitely recommend the Buice. Tje Permar 45 is a great call but more medium pitched. Billy's are more versatile. Get the screw in though.
There is no major difference. I have both push in and screw in. I have never lost a mouthpiece with either but did drop a push in one time and back tracked for it. I have learned that if you push it in and give a little turn it locks in a bit better. As Chris stated, I do have a drop on my lanyard to hold the mouthpiece and when I get Del to make me on for that trumpet I will add a couple drops so I can just keep the mouthpieces hanging ready for that trumpet.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: ol bob on June 26, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Post by: ol bob on June 26, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
There is no difference in sound between push in and screw in Billy likes the push because you can change them faster. You should never lose one if you push in and twist as stated.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: howl on June 26, 2019, 01:41:24 PM
Post by: howl on June 26, 2019, 01:41:24 PM
Seeing as how you're starting out you won't know the difference. Buy what suits your fancy and enjoy the journey.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Spitten and drummen on June 27, 2019, 01:16:02 PM
Post by: Spitten and drummen on June 27, 2019, 01:16:02 PM
Both are solid and draw easy. Im liking my permar all delrin right now. It will be around my neck come spring. I have 4 Buice trumpets and absolutely love them also.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 01:47:55 PM
Post by: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 01:47:55 PM
I've owned both Buice and Permar trumpets, and both are top quality. Buice for interchangeable mouthpieces is the only plus.
But to throw a curve ball for additional consideration...for a straight up "field grade" hunting yelper its hard to beat either Mark Sharpe, or Tony Ezolt, river cane or wing bone. Over the years, my EZ wing bone and my Sharpe river cane have seen more woods time than all the big name trumpet makers I've owned, Hegler included, combined.
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But to throw a curve ball for additional consideration...for a straight up "field grade" hunting yelper its hard to beat either Mark Sharpe, or Tony Ezolt, river cane or wing bone. Over the years, my EZ wing bone and my Sharpe river cane have seen more woods time than all the big name trumpet makers I've owned, Hegler included, combined.
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: sbbow on June 27, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Post by: sbbow on June 27, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 01:47:55 PMX2 I have a EZ wingbone an both Sharpe calls. These guys are some of the easiest playing calls an look good too!
I've owned both Buice and Permar trumpets, and both are top quality. Buice for interchangeable mouthpieces is the only plus.
But to throw a curve ball for additional consideration...for a straight up "field grade" hunting yelper its hard to beat either Mark Sharpe, or Tony Ezolt, river cane or wing bone. Over the years, my EZ wing bone and my Sharpe river cane have seen more woods time than all the big name trumpet makers I've owned, Hegler included, combined.
:z-twocents:
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 03:36:37 PM
Post by: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 03:36:37 PM
Quote from: sbbow on June 27, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
X2 I have a EZ wingbone an both Sharpe calls. These guys are some of the easiest playing calls an look good too!
:agreed: Both are easy to run, killer calls, and precisely tuned.
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: sbbow on June 27, 2019, 05:39:26 PM
Post by: sbbow on June 27, 2019, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 03:36:37 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190627/0c82ba5878f9e61a935aa961ddcee844.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190627/0a7d0e0ed26dfd3fdc7dc6a4ae150eb4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190627/2888654484a6d8fd4ba5144f39b92dd3.jpg)Quote from: sbbow on June 27, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
X2 I have a EZ wingbone an both Sharpe calls. These guys are some of the easiest playing calls an look good too!
:agreed: Both are easy to run, killer calls, and precisely tuned.
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: greentag on June 27, 2019, 07:03:43 PM
Post by: greentag on June 27, 2019, 07:03:43 PM
I don't have any of Ralph's calls but I do have 4 buice's that I love,I have a pink ivory one that just has something special about it even compared to my other buice calls and other buice calls I have played around with....as of lately I have really fell in love with playing wingbones and am on tony and marks list for a couple of theirs,I can't wait to get those,I would say to pick one and practice all you can until you get good with one call,once that happens you should be able to play any of them,but there will def be ones that you like best and always seem to grab for first..
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Jimspur on June 27, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
Post by: Jimspur on June 27, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on June 27, 2019, 01:47:55 PM
I've owned both Buice and Permar trumpets, and both are top quality. Buice for interchangeable mouthpieces is the only plus.
But to throw a curve ball for additional consideration...for a straight up "field grade" hunting yelper its hard to beat either Mark Sharpe, or Tony Ezolt, river cane or wing bone. Over the years, my EZ wing bone and my Sharpe river cane have seen more woods time than all the big name trumpet makers I've owned, Hegler included, combined.
:z-twocents:
It's funny you mentioned this because I never called Mr. Billy yet, because I've been researching Mark Sharpe cane yelpers and wingbones.
Lots of choices!
Thanks to everybody for all the suggestions.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Chris O on June 28, 2019, 05:06:49 AM
Post by: Chris O on June 28, 2019, 05:06:49 AM
Yep there are lots of great choices and can get confusing. A wingbone or cane call will teach you how to run a yelper and call just as many birds for less money. But if you are wanting a Buice get one while you can.Mr. Billy isn't going to make calls forever .
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: guesswho on June 28, 2019, 08:33:33 AM
Post by: guesswho on June 28, 2019, 08:33:33 AM
Another shout-out for the Sharpe wingbones and cane yelpers. If you decide to go that route I don't think you will be disappointed. Good luck with whatever you choose. Be warned, they are addictive.
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Old Timer53 on July 05, 2019, 12:39:45 PM
Post by: Old Timer53 on July 05, 2019, 12:39:45 PM
Champ63 on here make a fine cane call. They are old school..easy running "KILLERS". Try and get You one before next spring.
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Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: midmslongbeard on July 08, 2019, 12:56:10 PM
Post by: midmslongbeard on July 08, 2019, 12:56:10 PM
X2 on Champ63 canes run super smooth pure killers
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Chris O on July 08, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
Post by: Chris O on July 08, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
Quote from: midmslongbeard on July 08, 2019, 12:56:10 PMI agree he makes a great call, very easy to run and great sound
X2 on Champ63 canes run super smooth pure killers
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: Jimspur on July 08, 2019, 05:13:15 PM
Post by: Jimspur on July 08, 2019, 05:13:15 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys!
Title: Re: Field grade hunting trumpet
Post by: beardhunter87 on July 09, 2019, 01:10:13 PM
Post by: beardhunter87 on July 09, 2019, 01:10:13 PM
Buice is the way to go. Gwaltney "Gergg" makes an amazing trumpet too I have many many and Buice, Gwaltney, and AGE r my top favorite to draw oon