if you were setting up a gun to shoot tss which combo would it be..?
If I was buying a new gun it would be the Weatherby SA-459 20 ga.
Love my little 500 I set up last year.
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is there one brand that tends to pattern a little better
With the right choke TSS will shoot good in any gun !
It shoots in anything
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Is a 20 gauge as powerful as a 12 gauge
20 is more than plenty, plenty died with a 28 ha and 410
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Killed 2 this year with a 20 ga Rem 11/87 carlsons choke Federal heavy weight no 7,smy 12 ga retired
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I'd be Leary to run it in a 1500 dollar gun. The shot makes the gun not the other way around.
Quote from: Dirt nap on May 24, 2017, 07:40:46 PM
Is a 20 gauge as powerful as a 12 gauge
Power is equal out of either gauge. A #9 pellet at 1000 fps has the same amount of energy regardless of gauge. The difference is in payload. The 12 gauge can push more shot, but you reach a point of diminishing returns with TSS. I load for both, 1 5/8 oz load in the 20 and a 2 1/4 oz out of the 12. The 12 only holds what I feel is an acceptable pattern for 5 yards past the 20. I've reached this conclusion not by using a formula, but by slinging shot down range.
Wonder why 20 pattern better than 12
It doesn't pattern better out of a 20. It just patterns more than adequate out of a 20. I would shoot it out of your Maxus if I were you.
I thought about doing that I have a 935 also would you guys try 8 or 9 shot I will be ordering from apex ...tss is a new animal to me
Quote from: dirt road ninja on May 24, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
I'd be Leary to run it in a 1500 dollar gun. The shot makes the gun not the other way around.
Just curious why you would be leary? I do want to try it but one of my dedicated turkey guns is expensive so I'd rather not damage anything.
I shoot it out of a Benelli M2 20ga.
Quote from: lunghit on May 25, 2017, 05:39:13 AM
Quote from: dirt road ninja on May 24, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
I'd be Leary to run it in a 1500 dollar gun. The shot makes the gun not the other way around.
Just curious why you would be leary? I do want to try it but one of my dedicated turkey guns is expensive so I'd rather not damage anything.
It will not damage anything, I believe he was saying it doesn't take an expensive gun to shoot well.
A lot of guys run cheap guns and spend their money on the tss.
Quote from: Dirt nap on May 25, 2017, 04:17:18 AM
I thought about doing that I have a 935 also would you guys try 8 or 9 shot I will be ordering from apex ...tss is a new animal to me
The 935 and Maxus will both shoot TSS lights out. Most guys run 9's in TSS and it is very lethal as far as anyone should shoot turkeys and will give you better pattern density than 8's. I would skip Apex and learn to roll them yourself, then you will have unlimited options and you won't have to depend on those guys to build your shells. Also, it will be much cheaper in the long haul.
Quote from: lunghit on May 25, 2017, 05:39:13 AM
Quote from: dirt road ninja on May 24, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
I'd be Leary to run it in a 1500 dollar gun. The shot makes the gun not the other way around.
Just curious why you would be leary? I do want to try it but one of my dedicated turkey guns is expensive so I'd rather not damage anything.
I have had it scar choke tubes.
Quote from: dirt road ninja on May 25, 2017, 08:35:15 AM
Quote from: lunghit on May 25, 2017, 05:39:13 AM
Quote from: dirt road ninja on May 24, 2017, 09:20:53 PM
I'd be Leary to run it in a 1500 dollar gun. The shot makes the gun not the other way around.
Just curious why you would be leary? I do want to try it but one of my dedicated turkey guns is expensive so I'd rather not damage anything.
I have had it scar choke tubes.
I stand corrected. I know any HTL shot can scratch choke tubes, never saw it affect performance. I have shot it many pounds of the stuff and have never saw any damage to any gun. This includes 2 SX3's, 3 Benelli M2's, 2 Browning A5's, 4 Browning Gold's, 2 835's, 3 870's, and 2 Maxus.
The performance wasn't effected at all.. It would just worry me if I scared the barrel of an expensive gun. None of my barrels show any ill effects at all. Probably nothing to worry about, just my feelings.
Yes I have heard it can scar up a choke but never heard of any actual gun damage. I plan on trying a box or two but still have a bunch of Hevi-13 that has been doing a great job.
It will shoot great out of anything. If I were going to buy a gun, it would be a lightweight 20 ga, which is waaaay more than adequate. If I wasn't going to buy a gun, I would not hesitate to shoot it through any gun you would be willing to shoot HS through. TSS loads, at least the ones I design and shoot, offer superior barrel protection and much lower pressures than any HS loads. I have shot hundreds of rounds through a $2,000 Beretta O/U with no ill effects whatsoever.
Why is it a lower pressure? Being heavier I would think u need more pressure to get the same fps,
Quote from: potter on June 01, 2017, 07:29:19 PM
Why is it a lower pressure? Being heavier I would think u need more pressure to get the same fps,
It's not heavier, it is denser. What that means is that for a given weight of shot, the shot column will be shorter. So if we compare a 3" 12 ga 2 oz HS load vs a 2 oz TSS load, the HS will completely fill the wad with no room for any cushion whatsoever. The TSS load on the other hand will leave room in that same wad for 5/8" of cushion under the shot. That cushion lowers pressures substantially. The lowest pressure I can get in a 2 oz HS load with the slowest powder available yields 14,000 psi. The 2 oz TSS load comes in at 9800 psi.