Decided to brave the airports this spring and head back to Merriam country.
Haven't traveled since 2013, does anyone have suggestions for good TSA approved gun case ?
Also companion will be on first travel hunt and is wanting to bring bird back, I've always froze them and took them home as carry ones.
Anyone had any issues with bird going through security ?
I've flown home with birds from Mexico (capes) and meat and feathers from FL many times. Pack the feathers in a piece of cardboard and put in your carry on. For the meat I bring my YETI soft side and carry it on the plane or put it in your carry on. For cases I use a pelican. I've had great luck with it but there definitely lots of options.
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I'm using a Pelican V800. It's more than big enough, I take out enough padding to get my camo clothing, sleeping bag and anything else I can fit. Just keep it under 50lbs. Tail fans I put in the gun case for the flight back. That did startle the lady from TSA one time. For the meat I've flown several times with meat in my carry on and haven't had any issues as of yet. Not having the ability to freeze it because I was living out of the rental, I made some ice packs with doubled up freezer bags tied in a trash bag around the meat in a small soft cooler and all went well.
We've flown three times over the last couple of years and I would check the airline oversized baggage rules and before you buy a case look at its exterior measurements. Some airlines charged $70.00 each way for anything over 62 inches total W+L+D, that includes measuring the handles and wheels sticking out; they have tape measures and are not afraid to use them. I do not own but have looked at the Pelican 1700 that slip under these measurements. You didn't state what gun you wanted to carry so this my not work for you.
https://www.buycasesforless.com/p-11450-pelican-1700-case.aspx
I'm more than satisfied with my Plano 36" case. Half the price of the Pelicans and seems to do the job. I picked the smallest case that would accommodate my 870 with the barrel off. 36" is the smallest they make but the 42" may be a good compromise and Amazon shows it still under $100.00. Has a "pluck foam" feature that allows you to fit the case to the gun's form.
Good tips regarding bringing the meat and fan back BTW.
Had great luck with ICC (Impact Case Company). All aluminum/stainless steel Construction. Built like a tank. The advertisement showed a D9 dozer rolling over it, did nit crush it. It's locking bar feature with solid steel hasps make it tough to jar it open, pretty much impossible. As you can see, it went through the "baggage war zones". Highly recommend if you do not want to worry about your weapon while flying....
Regarding bringing home your turkeys: The simplest solution to transporting birds, or storing them for long periods of time on a hunt, is to learn how to cape your turkeys for mounting. It ain't rocket science, and it will make your life SO much easier in terms of dealing with both the cape and the meat. Seems that folks are afraid of the caping process when there is no need to be. It's one of those things where after you have done it, you say to yourself,..."now why have I been messing with an entire turkey when I could have been doing this the whole time?" ;D :D
Harbor Freight has gun cases with wheels that are TSA approved. I fly Southwest and have never had a problem with the case. As for the bird, you can pack it in a cooler with dry ice as checked baggage
I think I have 3 of the Plano case in different sizes. They are not the basic cheap $20 hard cases, seems just like the Pelican. You cut out the foam so it molds around your gun and fits like a glove. The airline people would literally have to toss the case 10 feet in the air before there could be any damage. Make sure your case has wheels...makes things a lot easier.
Depending on your gun on what size you should get 42" or 36", etc.. ... also depending on if you want to remove the barrel. You can then use a smaller case. Also get a few locks.. I use the circle combination locks that way I don't need to fuss with keys. Don't worry about getting the most "secure" lock... they can break into anything when it's a plastic case if they really want to.
This is a good one - https://www.amazon.com/Plano-Weather-Scoped-Rifle-Shotgun/dp/B07B7SB486/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2WJ5OB025QSK8&keywords=Plano+gun+case&qid=1641566978&sprefix=plano+gun+case%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-2
You have to watch bringing dry ice on an airplane. It is a solid form of carbon dioxide and is considered by the FFA to be a hazardous substance. Check with them before you bring it on board.
I have the harbour freight roll on 2 gun case ..flown with it many times it is well built .... But you will need to put 2 extra locks on it as tsa requires 4 locks and that case has 2
Thanks for all the great information.
SKB for case and soft side cooler with frozen meat as a carry on
So I actually had issues with the TSA in Oregon and delayed my flight by 5 min. Almost missed it because of them.
I flew to Oregon with a standard Plano hard case and I bought 3 TSA approved locks from Amazon.
Minnesota TSA said all good and sent me to Oregon. Get to Oregon to hunt the land I was invited to and a total bust, no birds, bad place to stay... train wreck all around.
Anyways...
I arrive to the airport 1.5 hours before flight.
TSA inspects my gun and case and my case doesn't pass the inspection. I was confused because Minnesota TSA said it was fine.
The guy unlocks the case (not the TSA locks, just the case locks-the ones that are built into the cases... trying to not get confusing here). He flexes that case open and sticks his fingers in there and touches the barrel. Says the case won't pass inspection because he shouldn't be able to touch the gun with the locks still being on there. That I need to get a new case that's heavy duty and sturdy, as to allow zero flex, and If I could get some locks that fit really tight on the case, so even with the case itself unlocked, the tighter locks wont allow the person to even move the case lids open a little bit.
I'm very confused at this point because Minnesota TSA passed me just fine, and at this point I have about 1 hr before my flight leaves, not boards... leaves.
So I'm faced with 2 options... abandon the gun there or run into town and potentially miss my flight to get a suitable case.
Call a ride and speed to the nearest sporting goods store and buy the most heavy duty, durable, unflexible gun case they have and I buy like 8 different locks. Considering I have no time for mistakes.
Put the gun in the new case and abandon my old one there (I liked that case too) try the different locks until I get the ones that fit incredibly tight on the case. Head back to the airport and head to TSA.
I now get the guy that's totally cool and just makes sure the case is locked, gun is not loaded and has me sign the empty firearm slip and sends me on my way.
Luckily they notified my plane to let them know what was going on and they delay the flight like 5-10min.
I get there and of course everyone is staring at me pissed. Headed back to MN glad to be done with it.
So based off that experience...
Get yourself a nice durable case that has no flex to it when there's locks on it. Make sure you get some TSA approved locks that fit tight on it so no one can undo the locks and pry the case open and touch the gun.
I guess you don't technically need the TSA approved locks but it will be one less potential issue.
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"Oregon" pretty much sums it up. You got hosed IMO. Curious - Plano makes several types of cases in different varieties. Mine is called a Tactical Case and has made three flights over the years with no problems. It has two built in key locks and places for two additional locks. I use them all and get to the airports at least 2 1/2 hours early if flying with my turkey gun.. Good luck in the future. This is why so many will no longer fly into "blue" states or cities.
Quote from: Mossberg90MN on January 08, 2022, 03:34:32 AM
So I actually had issues with the TSA in Oregon and delayed my flight by 5 min. Almost missed it because of them.
I flew to Oregon with a standard Plano hard case and I bought 3 TSA approved locks from Amazon.
Minnesota TSA said all good and sent me to Oregon. Get to Oregon to hunt the land I was invited to and a total bust, no birds, bad place to stay... train wreck all around.
Anyways...
I arrive to the airport 1.5 hours before flight.
TSA inspects my gun and case and my case doesn't pass the inspection. I was confused because Minnesota TSA said it was fine.
The guy unlocks the case (not the TSA locks, just the case locks-the ones that are built into the cases... trying to not get confusing here). He flexes that case open and sticks his fingers in there and touches the barrel. Says the case won't pass inspection because he shouldn't be able to touch the gun with the locks still being on there. That I need to get a new case that's heavy duty and sturdy, as to allow zero flex, and If I could get some locks that fit really tight on the case, so even with the case itself unlocked, the tighter locks wont allow the person to even move the case lids open a little bit.
I'm very confused at this point because Minnesota TSA passed me just fine, and at this point I have about 1 hr before my flight leaves, not boards... leaves.
So I'm faced with 2 options... abandon the gun there or run into town and potentially miss my flight to get a suitable case.
Call a ride and speed to the nearest sporting goods store and buy the most heavy duty, durable, unflexible gun case they have and I buy like 8 different locks. Considering I have no time for mistakes.
Put the gun in the new case and abandon my old one there (I liked that case too) try the different locks until I get the ones that fit incredibly tight on the case. Head back to the airport and head to TSA.
I now get the guy that's totally cool and just makes sure the case is locked, gun is not loaded and has me sign the empty firearm slip and sends me on my way.
Luckily they notified my plane to let them know what was going on and they delay the flight like 5-10min.
I get there and of course everyone is staring at me pissed. Headed back to MN glad to be done with it.
So based off that experience...
Get yourself a nice durable case that has no flex to it when there's locks on it. Make sure you get some TSA approved locks that fit tight on it so no one can undo the locks and pry the case open and touch the gun.
I guess you don't technically need the TSA approved locks but it will be one less potential issue.
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I see what happened there. It all depends on your inspector unfortunately. All the inspectors I have had liked my case set up. Even though I has one main heavy duty lock, the stainless steel bar that goes through the 4 heavy hasps make it impossible to open the case unless you cut the lock off and remove the steel rod. So far, it's passed all the tests, but stay tuned because airline rules are ever changing........Stay safe, be well...
I have only flown twice for turkey hunting. Never had an issue with guns, because they were always in a really good case and we followed rules to the letter.
On flying back with birds. My buddy taught me this. I take a 32 quart cooler as my checked bag. I have a soft clothing bag that fits inside it. I tape it shut with duct tape and have all my contact info written on the lid in permanent ink. If I bring a bird back and it's frozen I just put it in a garbage bag and into the cooler. There's usually still room for my soft bag to be stuffed in. I put a copy of my license and all the proper wildlife harvest info in a baggy attached to the bird. If the bird isn't frozen I put cold packs around it or dry ice. Like said before know how much dry ice you can use. Most flights are short enough you are safe with fresh meat and just a couple cold packs. remember it's cold at the altitude the planes fly at and I doubt that baggage is in heated space. I actually have never brought a whole bird back, but my buddy has. I don't mount birds or keep anything but meat, not even beards or spurs.
Quote from: Old Gobbler on January 07, 2022, 08:20:56 PM
I have the harbour freight roll on 2 gun case ..flown with it many times it is well built .... But you will need to put 2 extra locks on it as tsa requires 4 locks and that case has 2
I couldn't find mention of that on their site. How sure are you on that? My case only has two spots for locks so I'm gonna have to figure something out if this is true
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Quote from: Terry on January 08, 2022, 09:06:02 AM
Quote from: Old Gobbler on January 07, 2022, 08:20:56 PM
I have the harbour freight roll on 2 gun case ..flown with it many times it is well built .... But you will need to put 2 extra locks on it as tsa requires 4 locks and that case has 2
I couldn't find mention of that on their site. How sure are you on that? My case only has two spots for locks so I'm gonna have to figure something out if this is true
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If it is Terry, you can get quality Marine hasps and install them. My brothers SKB case lock broke, so installed some heavy hasps on the case and added TSA locks. Worked real well. You can rivet or bolt them on with locking nuts....
Do any of y'all have any issues with cases being over 62 inch's L+W+H? Is something they just overlook? None of the cases I've looked at will come in at 62"
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Quote from: Tom007 on January 08, 2022, 07:52:08 AM
Quote from: Mossberg90MN on January 08, 2022, 03:34:32 AM
So I actually had issues with the TSA in Oregon and delayed my flight by 5 min. Almost missed it because of them.
I flew to Oregon with a standard Plano hard case and I bought 3 TSA approved locks from Amazon.
Minnesota TSA said all good and sent me to Oregon. Get to Oregon to hunt the land I was invited to and a total bust, no birds, bad place to stay... train wreck all around.
Anyways...
I arrive to the airport 1.5 hours before flight.
TSA inspects my gun and case and my case doesn't pass the inspection. I was confused because Minnesota TSA said it was fine.
The guy unlocks the case (not the TSA locks, just the case locks-the ones that are built into the cases... trying to not get confusing here). He flexes that case open and sticks his fingers in there and touches the barrel. Says the case won't pass inspection because he shouldn't be able to touch the gun with the locks still being on there. That I need to get a new case that's heavy duty and sturdy, as to allow zero flex, and If I could get some locks that fit really tight on the case, so even with the case itself unlocked, the tighter locks wont allow the person to even move the case lids open a little bit.
I'm very confused at this point because Minnesota TSA passed me just fine, and at this point I have about 1 hr before my flight leaves, not boards... leaves.
So I'm faced with 2 options... abandon the gun there or run into town and potentially miss my flight to get a suitable case.
Call a ride and speed to the nearest sporting goods store and buy the most heavy duty, durable, unflexible gun case they have and I buy like 8 different locks. Considering I have no time for mistakes.
Put the gun in the new case and abandon my old one there (I liked that case too) try the different locks until I get the ones that fit incredibly tight on the case. Head back to the airport and head to TSA.
I now get the guy that's totally cool and just makes sure the case is locked, gun is not loaded and has me sign the empty firearm slip and sends me on my way.
Luckily they notified my plane to let them know what was going on and they delay the flight like 5-10min.
I get there and of course everyone is staring at me pissed. Headed back to MN glad to be done with it.
So based off that experience...
Get yourself a nice durable case that has no flex to it when there's locks on it. Make sure you get some TSA approved locks that fit tight on it so no one can undo the locks and pry the case open and touch the gun.
I guess you don't technically need the TSA approved locks but it will be one less potential issue.
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I see what happened there. It all depends on your inspector unfortunately. All the inspectors I have had liked my case set up. Even though I has one main heavy duty lock, the stainless steel bar that goes through the 4 heavy hasps make it impossible to open the case unless you cut the lock off and remove the steel rod. So far, it's passed all the tests, but stay tuned because airline rules are ever changing........Stay safe, be well...
Yea I would have to say it does come down to the individual agent. Because the 2nd agent was smooth sailing. Unless he knew the flight situation and already knew that I went to get another case.
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Quote from: joey46 on January 08, 2022, 07:38:35 AM
"Oregon" pretty much sums it up. You got hosed IMO. Curious - Plano makes several types of cases in different varieties. Mine is called a Tactical Case and has made three flights over the years with no problems. It has two built in key locks and places for two additional locks. I use them all and get to the airports at least 2 1/2 hours early if flying with my turkey gun.. Good luck in the future. This is why so many will no longer fly into "blue" states or cities.
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This was the case I original went with.
Yea all I can say is I probably won't be back hunting Oregon for a loooonnnggg time.
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That is one of Plano lower cost options. I have one or two. The Tactical cases are much heavier duty. Since this is a favorite subject of mine I've been looking through the multiple regulations and post on this topic. So far there is no requirement that I've found requiring TSA locks. In fact they are not recommended since only the firearms owner should be able to open the case. If requested the key will then be relinquished to a TSA agent. Also other than the case must be securely locked the number of locks used is not specified.
On my last firearms flight from Ft. Myers FL to Columbus Oh I signed the "yes it's unloaded" form. The form was placed inside the case. I re-locked the case and it headed down the belt. Never paged by TSA. The x-ray was sufficient. EZPZ. At the arrival point the case was picked up at the baggage office so it wouldn't be circling on the baggage carousel. Don't make this harder than it is.
Quote from: Gentry on January 08, 2022, 10:40:16 AM
Do any of y'all have any issues with cases being over 62 inch's L+W+H? Is something they just overlook? None of the cases I've looked at will come in at 62"
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South West from San Francisco to Phoenix on a Gould hunt, they definitely pulled out the tape measure and the cost was $70.00 for a over size bag, anything 62" L+W+H, (which was a gun case) at that time for one way. That's why I was looking at the Pelican 1700, Dimensions Outside: 38.12" x 16.00" x 6.12".
On another flight we also ran into the lock problem, TSA wanted a lock in each hole that the manufacturers case has provided for, 2 holes two locks, 4 holes four locks, not 4 holes and two locks like we had. If they can pry the case open and get there fingers in there it's a no go, at least for us. Probably depends who's on duty, your mileage may very.
Quote from: Gentry on January 08, 2022, 10:40:16 AM
Do any of y'all have any issues with cases being over 62 inch's L+W+H? Is something they just overlook? None of the cases I've looked at will come in at 62"
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Not that I have a ton of experience with it, but have flown United and Soutwest with an oversized case and have not had it measured once nor had to pay any oversize fee. Anyone I've talked to about it has said the same. They do weigh them to make sure you're under 50lbs.
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I've flown a lot with the gun. TSA is a complete PIA everyone is different. That being said I use the Pelican 2 gun case. Put your OWN lock on every hole that can take a lock. Mine has 4 so I bought 4 keyed alike locks. Get good locks not TSA locks those are junk. I usually fly with an extra lock or two just so I don't have problems. Like someone said if I'm flying to a cold weather place I'll remove a layer of foam and pack my heavy clothes in it but I usually don't do that because I want that case locked tight. I try to arrive 2 hours before my flight which has always been plenty of time. Every airport is different. Most airports you have to get the gun from security. I flew into a small airport in New York one time and was standing by the conveyor looking for security and out pops my gun case on the belt. LOL As for flying back with birds I just put it in my carry on bag. I've flown whole birds back although it was Geese and ducks not a turkey. Tail fans and feet and frozen meat. I just get one of those bag coolers that a tail fan fits in and pack it in my carry on. I killed a goose in Kansas one year and was bringing it home and the girls doing the x ray was laughing and let me look at the x ray of the pellets in my goose lol.
chiefbubba, we have had guns come out on a belt too. If there's two of us one watches the belt and the other goes to the security office.
Quote from: eggshell on January 09, 2022, 08:30:54 AM
chiefbubba, we have had guns come out on a belt too. If there's two of us one watches the belt and the other goes to the security office.
That's a good idea. That was the only time that has happened to me. I usually get the checked bags first and then go looking for the security office. Bubba
I have an SKB that I have flown with, but I think I am going to pickup a Pelican 1700 and get in under the 62" criteria.
A gun case for flying isn't something I will skimp on, after my first experience flying with one. On the way to OK and back my SKB came out with a few battle scars.
The 1700 may not be perceived as a "Gun Case" so much either, which probably doesn't hurt.
Flying United I have followed their guidelines and haven't had any issues. They do have a 62" limit, after the magic number you have to pay for Oversized baggage. I bet its expensive.
I was in Orlando and a guy was arguing with the baggage screener. I cant remember the charge but he was over weight by 2#. The lady told him "Nicely" repeatedly just to take a pair of blue jeans out as they average about three pounds. He could not get that through his head. Maybe he had high dollar designer jeans, IDK. But he paid the over weight charge.
As an option, the ticket you purchase can limit you, or help you. First class tickets allows more bags, at no extra cost. Well, it did 2 years ago, that could have changed as well by now. Economy tickets are just that, they usually allow one small carryon and one checked bag. If flying with equipment it adds up quickly and can require multiple bags. Not saying the First class ticket offsets that cost, but makes it more manageable along with the extra room and perks.
Thanks WV - most all domestic airlines will read basically the same. I try and always fly Southwest and just don't have problems with baggage. Two free checked bags and a reasonable size carryon are permitted. Weight and size limits apply. The firearm case is counted as a checked bag and as long as it isn't over 40# or exceeds the magic 62" it's free.
After reading all these post and skimming through other post and guidelines it appears there is no such thing as a TSA approved gun case or TSA approved locks. TSA locks are no more than master keyed to allow TSA quick access.
After reading the two post regarding TSA agents flexing cases and trying to stick their fingers inside I modified my Plano Tactical case as pictured. It now has two built in factory locks, two additional locks on the front and now a lock on each end. That's six. I may add number seven by the handle but I'm out of locks. It took no more than a drill and bit for this modification.
What do you think?
I can not find where either United or TSA dictates the number of locks on a case, Or the brand of lock used. Mostly it is referred too in the singular "Lock" but does mention multiple times easily accessed. That could be defined by being able to pry an end of the case open. So integrity of the case is a important consideration. Or, multiple locks along the case.
I've only flown once, last year to WA and back to KY. I made a post such as this, if you can search and find it, it has a lot of very good info.
I suggest buying the best case you can, I chose to buy a Pelican 1750 and tsa approved combo locks.
I suggest this because my brand new case after that 1 trip, looks anything but new now.
However my gun was very secure and like others have said I packed several clothes and other things in my case... Dave Owens made a good vidieo on this subject.
Good luck!!!
Agreed. Some of us are putting very valuable guns in these cases. Skimping on the quality and protection capabilities of your selected case will lead to damaged goods when you arrive. The ICC case I have is scratched, has small dings. It is made of aluminum and stainless steel. I could only imagine what my gun would have looked like in a lesser case. The case you purchase will last you a lifetime if you spend the money on a quality product. Good info here.....
I bumped my post from year to the top... 4 pages of good info...
Link to Daves video is on page 4.