Im looking at a Winchester 1300 that someone I know has for sell. The barrel says Winchester 1300 turkey 23/4 and 3 blah blah blah. The rest of the gun doesn't look like any 1300 turkey model ive ever seen...however im not up to snuff on 1300 turkey models. Most of the ones I see are the nwtf edition ones with the laminate stocks, and the engraving on the side of the receiver. This one has a plain walnut looking stock, and it does have some engraving on the receiver but its not turkey art...its just like floral looking stuff. My question is ....is the NWTF special edition models we mostly see the only specific turkey models they made? I asked the seller was this a 1300 turkey model or is the barrel that's stamped "turkey" not the original barrel. Which is what appears to have happened. He claims it is the original barrel, and it is a shorter barrel 22-23" just like the nwtf ones. The floral design just doesn't seem like something anybody who released a "turkey gun" would put on the receiver. Basically if its not the original barrel on the gun...I don't want it. At least not for the price hes asking. If its mix matched ill offer him a lower price, but according to him its not.
I have collected 3 of these 1300's over the years. 2 are NWTF models with laminated stock, one is the buck & beard model. They all have 22 inch barrels. The 1300's made in New Haven Connecticut with Winchoke stamped on the barrel are the good ones. I know the gun you are looking at with the floral type engraving. They are well made. You should be able to match the barrel with the receiver via serial numbers. I am sure that the New Haven guns are the best of the 1300's. Best of luck with it, they are great guns, nice and compact, and pattern well. All 3 of mine do indeed say "Turkey" on them. Best of luck with it...
There are many different versions of the 1300. I would believe the one you have is the original. The laminate ones you see are actually the rarer of them all. They made camo versions in the turkey, they made all black versions of the turkey models. I would say that it is very likely they made walnut stock versions of the turkey model as well. Great guns. My all time favorite turkey guns.
Quote from: Tom007 on May 27, 2021, 06:59:17 AM
I have collected 3 of these 1300's over the years. 2 are NWTF models with laminated stock, one is the buck & beard model. They all have 22 inch barrels. The 1300's made in New Haven Connecticut with Winchoke stamped on the barrel are the good ones. I know the gun you are looking at with the floral type engraving. They are well made. You should be able to match the barrel with the receiver via serial numbers. I am sure that the New Haven guns are the best of the 1300's. Best of luck with it, they are great guns, nice and compact, and pattern well. All 3 of mine do indeed say "Turkey" on them. Best of luck with it...
yep the barrel was made in new haven and it is stamped win choke . The floral design is what really threw me off as it could be an imposter . But the guy claims it's original. I reckon I'll take his word for it.
Good luck with it my friend...you'll like the way it handles, and patterns.....
I went ahead and bought it . After further examination I do not believe it's the original barrel . The finish doesn't quite match between the receiver and the barrel . Oh well though. I bought it. I can always refinish it
They are getting popular. Saw an NWTF laminated one sell on gunboker for over 1000 bucks...send some pics, good luck with it.
Quote from: dzsmith on May 27, 2021, 10:27:35 PM
I went ahead and bought it . After further examination I do not believe it's the original barrel . The finish doesn't quite match between the receiver and the barrel . Oh well though. I bought it. I can always refinish it
They do pattern very, very good. I only run the stock X-full and that gun shoots a incredible pattern with Hevi-13 7's.....make sure you try the stock chokes! I'm the cat that ALWAYS runs right to aftermarket chokes but this stock tube....shoots POA/POI and an awesome pattern. Good luck with her and have fun! :OGturkeyhead:
It didn't come with the stock chokes ..... it had a Carlson 660 in it .
Quote from: dzsmith on May 27, 2021, 10:27:35 PM
I went ahead and bought it . After further examination I do not believe it's the original barrel . The finish doesn't quite match between the receiver and the barrel . Oh well though. I bought it. I can always refinish it
It would not quite match because the receiver is anodized black aluminum alloy and the barrel is blued steel.
Dude thank you for that . Because that's exactly what this . I'm gonna post some pics so Yal will have a better understanding of what I'm looking . Keep in mind I know virtually nothing about 1300s
Here it is
I checked out the photos. IMO it looks original.
Unless it's a NWTF gun with the laminated Win Camo wood and turkey engraved receiver, it doesn't really matter. Some 1300s came with the scrolling on the side, some had the laminated camo wood, but no engraving at all on the receiver. Some owners just changed out the barrel to the 22in Turkey barrel. As someone that used to collect these gun (still have a few, including the higher desired 20ga model) the value really isn't that much higher compared to a regular 1300. Doesn't matter, that gun in the pictures is one you can actually use and not have to worry about. 1300s are very possibly the best pump shotgun ever made.
I have 5 1300's and that looks original to me.
Thanks fellas.
Boy that gun was a booger to clean. Had to use my chamber hone , don't know if it was rust or what it was but it's got a nice spit shine through and through now. Interesting trigger group, I will admit the trigger is awesome in this gun. It's right at 3-3.5lbs . I don't know if that's common but I looked at the sear and it has no evidence of anybody doing work to it. Just a smidge of creep, but you know when it's on the sear . I had to do a lot of work on my 870s to get them to the point this trigger is already at. It appeared the only thing that's ever been cleaned on this gun was the barrel . It looks like the action was just repeatedly oiled over and over through the years. Tons of gunk tons . Action was pretty stiff. It's very slick now. I really like how the firing pin just comes out . The gun points very naturally for me. I'd say more natural than an 870. Receiver is shorter but the stock is longer. The bluing on the barrel is in excellent shape for its age . I guess they just don't coat things in this level of quality anymore . Receiver could definetly use a refinish . The wood has seen better days but honestly it's just age .....I considered replacing it, but I kinda like the metal Winchester logo under the grip. I may just strip and refinish the wood. And have the metal coated again. The guy who does my coating for me uses kg gunkote, and he can do a ceramic coating in semigloss blued finish. It looks very good. This could definitely be a project in the future , but I'd like to see how it shoots first whenever I'm able to get my hands on some chokes . Are most of Yal running the oem extra full chokes or just the full?
I have as many 870 as 1300 and I don't even think they are on the same page. Glad to hear you like yours. Can't imagine not doing a good cleaning job considering the whole thing comes apart with 1 pin.
Quote from: dzsmith on May 30, 2021, 01:52:19 PM
Boy that gun was a booger to clean. Had to use my chamber hone , don't know if it was rust or what it was but it's got a nice spit shine through and through now. Interesting trigger group, I will admit the trigger is awesome in this gun. It's right at 3-3.5lbs . I don't know if that's common but I looked at the sear and it has no evidence of anybody doing work to it. Just a smidge of creep, but you know when it's on the sear . I had to do a lot of work on my 870s to get them to the point this trigger is already at. It appeared the only thing that's ever been cleaned on this gun was the barrel . It looks like the action was just repeatedly oiled over and over through the years. Tons of gunk tons . Action was pretty stiff. It's very slick now. I really like how the firing pin just comes out . The gun points very naturally for me. I'd say more natural than an 870. Receiver is shorter but the stock is longer. The bluing on the barrel is in excellent shape for its age . I guess they just don't coat things in this level of quality anymore . Receiver could definetly use a refinish . The wood has seen better days but honestly it's just age .....I considered replacing it, but I kinda like the metal Winchester logo under the grip. I may just strip and refinish the wood. And have the metal coated again. The guy who does my coating for me uses kg gunkote, and he can do a ceramic coating in semigloss blued finish. It looks very good. This could definitely be a project in the future , but I'd like to see how it shoots first whenever I'm able to get my hands on some chokes . Are most of Yal running the oem extra full chokes or just the full?
The picture of the gun looks good, best of luck with it....